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Phil Spencer: It's Not Our Intent to Pull Communities Away From PlayStation

Phil Spencer: It's Not Our Intent to Pull Communities Away From PlayStation - News

by William D'Angelo , posted on 18 January 2022 / 3,673 Views

Microsoft today announced it is acquiring Activision Blizzard in a deal worth $68.7 billion. Once the deal closes the number of first-party Xbox studios will grow from 23 to 32.

IPs that will be owned by Microsoft once the deal closes include Call of Duty, Warcraft, Candy Crush, Tony Hawk, Diablo, Overwatch, Spyro, Hearthstone, Guitar Hero, Crash Bandicoot, StarCraft, and more.

This has lead some people to wonder what this means for Activision Blizzard games coming to PlayStation consoles in the future.

A person familiar with Microsoft's thinking has said the plan is to keep releasing some of Activision Blizzard's games on PlayStation consoles, but will make some Xbox console exclusives.

Head of Xbox Phil Spencer in an interview with Bloomberg said it isn't Microsoft's goal to pull communities away from PlayStation consoles.

"I’ll just say to players out there who are playing Activision Blizzard games on Sony’s platform: It’s not our intent to pull communities away from that platform and we remained committed to that," said Spencer.


A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel dedicated to gaming Let's Plays and tutorials. You can contact the author at wdangelo@vgchartz.com or on Twitter @TrunksWD.


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thevideogameninja (on 18 January 2022)

-"It’s not our intent to pull communities away from that platform"- Phil

... but we will.

😆

-READING BETWEEN THE LINES NINJA APPROVED-

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DonFerrari thevideogameninja (on 19 January 2022)

He will do that while sheading tears.

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 19 January 2022)

I am sure Sony shred plenty of tears when they got the rights to Spiderman and Wolverine.

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DonFerrari Azzanation (on 20 January 2022)

They certainly didnt, and also werent complaining about exclusivity, being defenders of play anywhere or any other contradicting point.
Disney approached them and offered Sony to chose a dev and an IP to make a game. Sony chose Insomniac and Insomniac chose Spider-Man.
Now MS could have approached Disney and try an IP or Disney could have approached them, why do you think they haven`t?

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 20 January 2022)

Why didn't Sony release Spiderman on multiple devices if they aren't complaining about exclusivity?

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Fight-the-Streets (on 18 January 2022)

I'm absolutely not happy with this acquisition, it's not good for the industry. But I have to say, these companies are here for the money and are heavy competitor's. If they buy something it's only logical to keep it away from your competitors. They shelled out so much money for a reason, they are not a charity. Welcome to capitalism! Of course, if we talk about money only in the short- to mid-term they make more money if they keep the content on their competitor's consoles but in the long term they want that all these people migrate to their platform. In the long term it makes more sense for them to cut it off from the competitor's platforms.

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Dante9 Fight-the-Streets (on 19 January 2022)

Microsoft plans to become a game streaming platform in the long run, they will be phasing out Xbox eventually. It makes no sense to shut out a ton of players so they won't.

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ClassicGamingWizzz (on 19 January 2022)

What a lying cunt, just stfu and stop pretending

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aiwass ClassicGamingWizzz (on 19 January 2022)

This was the same guy who said “exclusives hurt the industry” and then bought Bethesda and made some of their games Xbox exclusives. I have no idea what people are smoking, treating Spencer like the second coming of Christ when he let the entire Xbox One generation come and go without giving me one reason to own that platform. “Oh, you want more GAMES? Here’s a new shiny console for double price with slightly sharper textures for games you can play just about as well on the old platform!” Thanks?

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smroadkill15 aiwass (on 19 January 2022)

I keep seeing this quote being brought up, but zero context to what was actually be discussed. Phil was referring to generational exclusives, like having to buy a next-gen console to play certain games or only being able to play a certain game on older hardware. He kept his word by making it so Xbox One consoles can stream Series X games and making BC an important feature going forward.

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DonFerrari aiwass (on 19 January 2022)

"we believe gamers should play wherever they want".... as long as it is on a Microsoft platform.
It is the new Henry Ford with "you can buy a car of the color you chose", as long as it is black.

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smroadkill15 DonFerrari (on 19 January 2022)

Once again, it is coming from an article titled; "Are Xbox Series X developers being held back by Xbox One?" He not talking about exclusives in the sense of Xbox and Playstation shouldn't have exclusive games, he's talking about allowing gamers to keep playing new games on the devices they have already ie Ps4 games on Ps5 and visa-versa.
Last I checked MS wasn't telling gamers to only buy on the Xbox platform and never support anything else. Infact, if they did ALL their games would be only on Xbox and PC, but they're not.
I know it's the hot topic right now to scrutinize Phil, and in the case of this specific article we are commenting on, it's more of a half-truth because we still don't know exactly how this will play out. But for the quote about "exclusives hurting the industry", it's completely out of context.

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Tridrakious (on 19 January 2022)

That's a complete lie.

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Bristow9091 (on 18 January 2022)

He said it when they bought Zenimax and it was a lie, he's saying it now they've bought ActiBlizz and again it's a lie lol... would be nice, and such a power move, if he just came out and went "If you want to play these IPs you gotta' get yourself on XBOX or PC, because you sure as shit won't be playing them on PlayStation!" lol

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DirtyP2002 Bristow9091 (on 18 January 2022)

he said games with a legacy on Playstation will keep those games and get updates. That is exactly what happens with TES Online or Fallout 76.

Starfield and Redfall have no legacy on PS and are Xbox exclusive. It was not a lie.

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Bristow9091 DirtyP2002 (on 18 January 2022)

Honestly I'm very doubtful, but hey... anything can happen, right? Maybe one day I'll wake up to a headline saying "Sony to allow Game Pass on PlayStation consoles" lol... that actually would be fucking helpful :P

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zero129 Bristow9091 (on 19 January 2022)

Question, is it not possible to play gamepass games in the Sony internet browser?. Dont own the system so i dont know what it lets you play but i hear Edge on xbox lets you play a bunch of streaming stuff.

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Bristow9091 zero129 (on 19 January 2022)

Never actually tried lol, imagine if it worked though, that'd be a 5head move right there!

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Otter Bristow9091 (on 19 January 2022)

There's still not a game announced from them that "pulls communities from playstation"

Starfield/Redfall have have never been on playstation amd they're the only exclusives that have properly been confirmed. I don't doubt that will be some but we really gotta wait and see

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Bristow9091 Otter (on 19 January 2022)

Tenner bet says we won't see another DOOM, Wolfenstein or Dishonored on PlayStation, same with Call of Duty after the marketing deal is over lol. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic because I don't like having to switch platform to finish a series lol, but oh well :P

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TheLegendaryBigBoss (on 18 January 2022)

Phil has the infinity gauntlet and just got the next infinity stone. Who's next?

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Leynos TheLegendaryBigBoss (on 19 January 2022)

Well if they want Japan I can see Level-5.

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shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

Pretty sure he said the same thing about Zenimax/Bethesda, and yet almost all of their games are going to be console exclusive to Xbox moving forward. I wouldn't take this as a sign that Phil is going to keep most Activision-Blizzard franchises console multiplat.

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trunkswd shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

I'd expect a mix. Warzone remains multiplat and WoW if it comes to console also comes to PS5.

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shikamaru317 trunkswd (on 18 January 2022)

Same here. Expecting WoW and Warzone as multiplat, everything else exclusive to Xbox Series/PC/Xbox Cloud Gaming.

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scrapking shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

Your last point is a particularly good one, IMO. This deal could be bad news for competing streaming services (Stadia, GeForce Now, etc.).

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EspadaGrim shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

Yeah if WoW comes to console I don’t see MS keeping it Xbox Exclusive.

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Otter shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

There's yet to be an Xbox exclusive announced from Zenimax/Bethesda that's had an existing community on Playstation, correct me if I'm wrong?

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EpicRandy shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

Yeah same feeling, CoD might still stay multi but If ever a renewed focus is put on single player I would expect the single player and multiplayer both be treated independently with multiplayer remaining multiplat while single player being exclusive. or something like that. For Diablo 4 it's 50/50. Other than that remaster/remaster collection with big tie to Playstation might still go multiplat as well but any new entry likely won't.

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Hynad shikamaru317 (on 18 January 2022)

So you agree he is full of shit and constantly regurgitates BS to make himself look good?

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DonFerrari Hynad (on 19 January 2022)

It is actually the first I see him not believing Phil.

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shikamaru317 DonFerrari (on 19 January 2022)

You haven't been paying attention then. I am one of Phil's biggest critics among Xbox fans. I'm well aware that he tells half truths and lies. I still remember when Sony got Street Fighter 5 as an exclusive, and Xbox fans complained about Phil allowing a deal like that to happen behind his back, and Phil hinted at retribution on his Twitter, suggesting they would hat a big JP game of their own to counter SF5, that never happened. He strung JP fans on Xbox along for years, talking about increased JP support, JP studio acquisitions (for instance he said like 2 years ago that they were actively seeking Asian studios, and 2 years later the only Asian studio they own is Tango which came in a package deal with Zenimax).

Phil is the kind of guy that will do anything to project and maintain a nice guy image, and seems to have no issues telling half truths and lies to maintain that image. In spite of his outward persona, he is really quite ruthless as a businessman. And though I don't really like Phil, I admit he was exactly what Xbox needed to get back on their feet after the disaster that was Don Mattrick.

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DonFerrari shikamaru317 (on 19 January 2022)

My bad them. And you are right, he do what he needs for the business, but he lies a lot to keep a good guy image that I don`t know why so many buy it so easily. And agree with you that for Xbox itself he is doing much better than Don even if that took like 5 years of empty promises and them an avalanche of purchases (but very little organic growth or developing themselves).

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 19 January 2022)

Don changes don't happen over night. 5 years is a realistic turn around. He changed Xbox by removing Kinect and dropping the price. he got Xbox back to creating the most powerful consoles again, He organically grew multiple studios with The Coalition, The Intuitive and Worlds Edge. Two of them are designed to be industry leading. He brought back Backwards Compatibly, he brought in Game Pass.

He fixed so many issues as well as growing the brand and offering new amazing features which are industry leading like BC and GP. You might hate him because you don't game on Xbox but for Xbox gamers, he has done everything for the brand and fans.

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DonFerrari Azzanation (on 20 January 2022)

Sure sure. He took 5 years to make the deals that now they can announce once a month. It is a pretending game.
He lied through and through during X1 because they had no more interest in it but couldn`t say, they were preparing to this gen do their action.
My dislike for him have nothing to do against not playing on Xbox, I barely play on Nintendo but have zero dislike for them. Also had no dislike for most of Xbox team. My dislike for Phil Spencer is exactly because he lie, deceive and pretend to manipulate.

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 20 January 2022)

How has he lied? give some examples? What do you mean he lied through the X1 generation?
Everything Phil has said he has done. You are taking what he says out of context which is well known by now.

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zero129 DonFerrari (on 20 January 2022)

Yep, no one at Sony lies right?, When MS said they would support cross gen for 2 years Sony be like "We believe in generation's. to let MS take the shit storm only to then make pretty much all their new big upcoming games for the first 2 years of PS5 cross gen with PS4. The is many other instances but i guess you only see it as a problem when you can blame the other team and ignoring your own who does the same.

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Azzanation zero129 (on 20 January 2022)

Exactly, Sony do this type of stuff all the time yet they only want to hate on the competition for doing it. Credit to MS, atleast they are upfront with their ideas and dont hide behind other companies to avoid the criticism.

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zero129 Azzanation (on 20 January 2022)

Indeed. Also see the down votes are coming as it seems Some of their fans also dont like the truth.

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Azzanation zero129 (on 21 January 2022)

These are the same people who dont want competition, and only see the industry thier way. The moment the competition steps it up, they hate it. Sony and its fans have bullied the industry for way to long, they have now awoken the sleeping giant. Xbox had no games, to Xbox has too many games.

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Hynad Azzanation (on 21 January 2022)

Damn. I didn’t know it could be worse than it looked. But it is.

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Azzanation Hynad (on 21 January 2022)

It gets much worse

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siebensus4 (on 18 January 2022)

It's not our intention, but a nice side effect, I guess :D

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Ashadelo (on 18 January 2022)

Everything that has already been released will remain, it's the upcoming titles. Did M$ pull minecraft? No. Did M$ pull TES5? No. They won't be pulling the Old COD games ether.

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Azzanation (on 19 January 2022)

Its not their intent on purpose however that's just how business works. They didn't buy these companies for that sole reason. They brought them to increase GP subs and to gain more content. However in doing so, naturally the competition will feel it.

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Qwark (on 19 January 2022)

One word Bullshit

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KLAMarine (on 19 January 2022)

I doubt he's shedding tears if it happens, though.

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chakkra (on 18 January 2022)

Let's see how many people who have been calling Phil a liar for years, will actually believe this one.

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Giggity_goo (on 18 January 2022)

call of duty sells millions of copies each year so not a great idea pulling it from playstation consoles when its mostly going to be downloaded via gamepass on xbox

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dane007 Giggity_goo (on 18 January 2022)

Theres 25 million subscribers. Even if half download it then that's 12.5 million users. That's pretty good

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JuliusHackebeil dane007 (on 18 January 2022)

But those 12,5 million users would not directly pay for the game. I think that is his point. What if it could have sold the same amount on XBox outside of GP? And Starfield aswell? And Redfall. And Halo, and Forza, etc. At some point you would just make more money not having GP as an option. So I think 25 mill subs is not going to cut it for all their content. But if they manage to doubld that amount, or perhaps even tripple it, I could be convinced of its profitability.

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dane007 JuliusHackebeil (on 18 January 2022)

That doesn't matter.
It works like how a movie or a tv show works on netflix. Its based on the
user numbers.

Alot of publishes have said they made not only the money spent on the game and marketing cost but also made profit. Just look what happened to medium and forza horizon 5 and halo infinite or outerworlds when it came out
.

Don't forget its not just Gp but thoss who play on steam and epic who don't have gp and those who buy the game on xbox with no GP.

How would u make more money with no gp? With GP games gets the greatest exposure and reaches a wider audiences.

Remember not everyone in the world can afford buying a brand new game at full retail price but more people can afford the price of GP. Therefore prior to GP there would be people who wanted to buy the game but couldn't because of financial and other problems. But now with GP they can.

Phil has said that GP is sustainable lol

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JuliusHackebeil dane007 (on 19 January 2022)

I hear you. More subs means more money. But more subs also means less people who buy games individualy.

For a small amount of content Microsoft would just need a small amount of subs to make a profit. For a large amount of content they would need a large amount of subs. And I honestly think they will geht their. And 25 mil is a super impressive number. But (and I did no math whatsoever) 25 mil seems still not enough for all of original Microsoft stuff + all the individual studios they bought + all of Zenimax + all of Activision + all of Blizzard. Say there is no GP - think of how many million copies of games sold all of that would be every year.

You are right to say that 1 sub might have been no game (since buying games individually is expansive). But 1 sub might also have been 10 games a year outside of GP. I always hear GP is the best deal in gaming and this seems to be true. But if the deal is so good, it kind of implys that consumers would have spent more money without the deal.

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UteGuy (on 18 January 2022)

This purchase isn't just shots fired at Sony, it is to the entire industry. Nobody is at ease with this one. Goodness. I just hope Sony wakes up and puts some real money up. Things are consolidating too fast.

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SanAndreasX UteGuy (on 18 January 2022)

Nintendo needs to start buying up some studios too. Koei Tecmo is a logical first step for them.

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Pemalite SanAndreasX (on 19 January 2022)

Nintendo's war-chest is comparatively small.

At-least Sony has $30 Billion cash on hand to throw around... Which is actually a fairly good amount for a $155 Billion dollar company.

Nintendo and Sony need to play it smart, it's not rocket science that they lack the financial resources of an almost $2.3 Trillion dollar valued company like Microsoft... So they are unable to get the same level of financing, share sales or cash on hand that big Microsoft can.

Smart purchases/investments are more valuable and impactful than random large ones...
I.E. Many gamers would be locked into Sony if Sony bought Square Enix.
Especially as Nintendo and Sony have already got allot of invested resources into game development anyway that pump out highly sought after titles... Microsoft had to play catch up as they started at a lower point.

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Azzanation Pemalite (on 19 January 2022)

Issue is Square wont benefit Sony in anyway outside of saying they own them. They are already the platform of choice on the PS. Also Sony's warchest is about $17b which has to be shared across the entire Sony brand, its not dedicated to just the PS business. It might be cheaper just to continue to do deals or unless they can find a company that might actually benefit Sony.

Bungie would be a better buy than Square because Sony lacks quality FPS games and someone like Bungie can fill that void. Thats just an example. Bungie wouldn't be up for sale and probably don't want to get caught up in another corp again. But who knows.

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DonFerrari Azzanation (on 20 January 2022)

So you would say buying Activision and Zenimax didn`t benefit MS although costing over 85B combined? Because their games were already releasing on MS platforms.

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 20 January 2022)

Activision Blizzard have strong PC and mobile ties that's why. Also its to build GamePass up even further, which is pretty obvious. More games day one benefits their eco system. Bethesda always had strong ties with MS, just like Insomica had with Sony. So that argument doesn't hold.

Also their are plenty of Acitivison and Blizzard games not on consoles. So the purchase can change that. What benefit does Sony get for buying out Square? FF exclusives? They already money hat that series.

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DonFerrari Azzanation (on 20 January 2022)

Yes they had strong ties and that was your number one reason to say there was no benefit.
And MS didn't need to buy either to have that content on GP.
You are just doing double standard.

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 20 January 2022)

What? Having strong ties helps with buyouts, you know, just like when Sony buy studios. The benefit for MS is to have control on releases with GP. What part of that don't you understand? They don't have to outsource to have day one releases, they can now do it internally.

For you, its okay for Sony to lock games like FF and Spiderman to PS but not okay for MS to lock games they now own. Its okay for Sony to buy studios, but its not okay when MS do it. I am the one with double standards? wow.

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DonFerrari Azzanation (on 20 January 2022)

They can ensure those games going to GP with individual deals, no need to buy the whole company.
And there you go trying to equate Sony making a deal for FF or developing an exclusive with MS buying what have been now 30 studios? Yeah sure it is the same.

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Azzanation DonFerrari (on 20 January 2022)

What are you trying to get at? If a company owns another company, they have every right to control where it lands, just like Sony when they own companies, they choose where the games go. There is no difference. Buy or build does not justify one over the other. If you brought something with your own money, you would expect to have full rights to whatever you purchased. Same goes here.

Long term, its cheaper to supply GP with games with internal studios than to continue to outsource and hope other companies sign on to the deals. This is smart business decisions to cut out costs long term. Not sure why you cannot see the strategy.

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DonFerrari (on 19 January 2022)

Yes, let`s keep believing in the good intentions of Phil.

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