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PlayStation Reportedly 'Working on a Counterpunch to Xbox Game Pass'

PlayStation Reportedly 'Working on a Counterpunch to Xbox Game Pass' - News

by William D'Angelo , posted on 02 August 2021 / 3,412 Views

Microsoft has been pushing its Netflix-like gaming subscription service, Xbox Game Pass, with releasing all of its first-party games day one on the service. This includes upcoming games from recently acquired Bethesda parent company ZeniMax Media. 

David Jaffe, the creator of God of War and Twisted Metal, in a recently uploaded YouTube video, which was spotted by VideoGamesChronicle, said that contacts he has at Sony have told him PlayStation is working on a response to Xbox Game Pass. 

"I’ve said time and again that people who are writing Jim Ryan’s obituary are way premature," he said. "We had the guy on the show yesterday that had made the petition to fire Jim Ryan and I was like, 'dude, that’s way premature' because Jim Ryan doesn’t owe anybody, Sony doesn’t owe anybody, the truth about what’s coming and what their counterpunch to Game Pass is.

"What I can tell you is I know they are doing some stuff because I know people at Sony who have told me that they are doing some stuff. There will be a response to Game Pass. What it is we don’t know."


A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel dedicated to gaming Let's Plays and tutorials. You can contact the author at wdangelo@vgchartz.com or on Twitter @TrunksWD.


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G2ThaUNiT (on 09 April 2021)

Well that's not surprising whatsoever. I imagine it would be a completely revamped PS Now. It'd be idiotic to offer different subscriptions for PS Now, PS Plus, and a PS Game Pass

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Giggity_goo (on 10 April 2021)

sony and nintendo still sell millions without it

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Azzanation (on 10 April 2021)

This would put to bed the speculations of GP not being profitable. Organisations wouldnt follow a none profitable buisness model.

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Tridrakious (on 09 April 2021)

Unfortunately Jim Ryan doesn't appear to know what he's doing, unless it's to make PlayStation gamers mad. In which case...mission accomplished???

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KratosLives (on 11 April 2021)

Don't know how all this anti ryan started. People think he and sony are just sitting down doing nothing without a clue. That we expect a roadmap or something of what's to come. Sony has been giving us quality exclusives every year, with vr2 on the way as announced, and people are worrying about gamepass and ryan driving sony to the ground is laughable

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VAMatt (on 10 April 2021)

This "counterpunch" needs to include all first-party games at (or very close to, maybe 10 days after or something) launch. Otherwise, I just don't see how it can be seen as a serious competitor to GP.

At the end of the day, the great first party games are the most special thing about the PS brand. So, anything that doesn't give us access to those games when they're new doesn't seem likely to have the widespread appeal that Gamepass has.

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hiccupthehuman (on 09 April 2021)

My prediction: PS Now and PS+ Collection combined, launching on PS4 and PS5 by the end of this year. In a few years, it will also launch on PC, as they slowly port more and more PS4 games to PC, and afterwards to mobile, due to their Azure deal with MS.

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G2ThaUNiT hiccupthehuman (on 09 April 2021)

I didn't know about the Azure deal. So it's a win-win for MS lol

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method114 G2ThaUNiT (on 09 April 2021)

A win-win would be if Game pass and Azure take off. If only Azure takes off but Game pass struggles that's not a win-win. Xbox was close to being closed down during the X1 disaster. This is a company that doesn't need Xbox to succeed and will cut it off if it becomes to much trouble. MS has a history of dumping massive amounts of money into an industry and then leaving when things don't go their way.

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Machiavellian (on 09 April 2021)

I thought PSNOw was the answer. Really what is the main difference than MS having their first, second and a few third party day one on the system. Ohh, I guess that would be a selling point but as long as Sony continue to kick out great exclusive, they have enough cushion to ride for a bit. Now if MS continue to purchase capable studios and win more 3rd party day one exclusive, it could start to give the Xbox consoles some market push.

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Soonerman (on 10 April 2021)

I will keep saying, the best thing Sony can do is join forces with MS. Become the hardware maker and continue making original IPs and allow Game Pass on PS systems and MS will stop making harxware. The reason I love my box is because of Game Pass because I don't have to buy a lot of games yet I have access to so many of them at a fractional cost. But I would pay for several Sony IPs even with Xbox Game Pass. What I will not do is have 2 consoles just to play their exclusives and because I'm frugal for the most part.

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DonFerrari (on 09 April 2021)

Still a rumor, but at least I would consider this source with name to be very trusted.

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kazuyamishima DonFerrari (on 09 April 2021)

He’s been way off with some rumours.

He confirmed that Sony would reveal the Ps5 in February 2020 (same as they did in February 2013 with the PS4) and that it was the “worst secret kept” ,and other rumours that ended completely false.

He was one great game director/creator but now he became like those clowns in YouTube uploading ranting videos.

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Juanita (on 09 April 2021)

PlaystationNow = Gamepass
59 € / Year, 700 Games

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dane007 Juanita (on 09 April 2021)

Ps now requires decent Internet to get proper quality in Terms of graphics. Most countries don't have good Internet. Gamepass doesn't require Internet connection. Its not reliant on it like ps now. U just pick a game and download it before playing

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AJNShelton dane007 (on 09 April 2021)

Nope, PS Now works very well with a pretty standard internet (5mbps is sufficient) - basically if you can have HD Netflix, you can have PS Now

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Mr Puggsly AJNShelton (on 09 April 2021)

Yep, PS Now is only 720p I believe so its not incredibly demanding. Also, I suggest using it wired as opposed to wifi to reduce latency.

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dane007 AJNShelton (on 09 April 2021)

720p is not what u call amazing. Alot of countries don't have those speed. This is an article for psnow :Unfortunately, 5 Mbps truly is the minimum requirement since you'll get kicked off the service if your internet speeds dip too low. A warning will appear in the upper right corner of your screen with a countdown to the disconnect. Save quickly!

At low internet speeds, your graphics will often be compressed to help reduce latency. The compression isn't always noticeable but at other times it can become headache-inducing blurry. My PS4 internet speed averages about 22 Mbps down and 4 Mbps up — this is about half of my internet speed due to a wireless connection. At this speed, I find the games playable but not enjoyable. There is noticeable input lag and enough compression that words can be difficult to read. Even players with nearly 100 Mbps have said they experience noticeable input lag, though their graphics do look sharper. Input lag is a pain and still evident even with 100mbos internet.gamepass doesn't have any of these issues. Big difference there

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DonFerrari dane007 (on 09 April 2021)

PSNow for PS4 titles you could download and play locally on PS4, so nothing stop you from playing locally on selected hardware on the revamp.

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dane007 DonFerrari (on 10 April 2021)

Yea but doesn't it still rely on Internet connection and if so wouldnt there be input lag?. 720p resolution is nothing to write home about.

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dane007 Bandorr (on 10 April 2021)

Wouldn't the resolution still be 720p? And rely on good Internet connection? What about input lag?

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AJNShelton dane007 (on 10 April 2021)

If you think running a game locally on a PS4 or PS5 downloaded through the PS Now will reduce its resolution to 720p and add input lag, you cleeeeeeearly don't know what you're talking about

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dane007 AJNShelton (on 10 April 2021)

If u Google psnow that's what it says. It says it's streaming service that needs min 5mbps and that the resolution is 720p. According to ps now website from Sony, its only the ps4 games that u can download before playing. But ps1, ps2 and ps3 games don't have that option. If u stream them the resolution is 720p and u get input lag. Its a common problem even for pc users accessing it

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AJNShelton dane007 (on 11 April 2021)

Did you even read the comment you responded to ?

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dane007 Bandorr (on 10 April 2021)

According to psnow website its only ps4 games u can download before playing. Ps1, ps2 and ps3 games on psnow requires streaming which is where u get crappy resolution and input lag

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Kakadu18 dane007 (on 10 April 2021)

Is 720p unplayable to you?

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dane007 Kakadu18 (on 10 April 2021)

It is as it also creates input lag. Makes it blurry and graphical details gets affected. That's the problems I found when I researched it. If ur Internet is kot stable than the experience is not good. Gamepass for older games are 4k 30 or 60fps which is game dependent and doesn't require Internet connection

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Kakadu18 dane007 (on 10 April 2021)

A 720p resolution doesn't create input lag, wtf. I meant the resolution. 720p is HD. It doesn't have anything to do with input lag.

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dane007 Kakadu18 (on 11 April 2021)

Lol I know that. Just saying resolution is very low and because it relies on Internet speeds, input lag is there. Streaming always has latency especially when u are streaming video games

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dane007 Kakadu18 (on 11 April 2021)

720p on a 65 inch is very blurry. Hence why I don't play switch on TV for that exact reason. Not only that graphical stuff quality gets affected when it requires Internet to stream them.

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HoangNhatAnh (on 09 April 2021)

So you can play all new 1st party games from Sony without paying more than $20 per year?

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Moseskyle83 (on 09 April 2021)

I don’t see why though they are doing just fine as they are and probably selling more than Microsoft by at least 2-1 again so I don’t get why they need to try n be like Microsoft just continue what there doing already. Bring the exclusives games that they always do n the system will continue to sell by the truck load

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Machiavellian Moseskyle83 (on 09 April 2021)

Probably because no business like to wait until you start losing marketshare to actually respond to something. I am sure Sony is crunching the numbers and like to make sure they remain the dominate console player in the market. This is why competition is always good. Let these 2 battle it out and get bloody to gain us the consumer at the end of it we win no matter who is on top as long as both seek our money.

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LivncA_Dis3 (on 10 April 2021)

if sony makes all games on psnow downloadable they destory friggin gamepass,
imagine ps3 games downloadable on ps4 or ps5 thats true backward compatibility!
well minus the physical copies haha!

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Cerebralbore101 shikamaru317 (on 10 April 2021)

Sony doesn't have the money to do day 1 exclusives. Gamepass hit so many subs because MS has been marketing it heavily and you can actually download the games to your device. Nobody wants to play PS Now because it has lag.

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PS Now has hundreds of downloadable titles.

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Such as? If the best games can't be downloaded then it's pretty pointless.

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Such as most of its PS4 and PS2 titles.

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Cerebralbore101 shikamaru317 (on 10 April 2021)

MS says they are profitable with gamepass. MS bought Bethesda in part to support gamepass. Clearly they didn't just make 7.5 billion back that quickly off Gamepass revenue. So MS saying gamepass is profitable is just a bunch of marketing lies.

MS has claimed that Gamepass users spend more, but again that's just marketing spin. They have no way of tracking the retail sales of non-gamepass users. They have no way of tracking the games that non-gamepass users pick up on non-Xbox-ecosystem platforms. At best they can say that Xbox users with gamepass spend more on Xbox games than Xbox users without gamepass. But that isn't very useful information.

Jim Ryan has gone on record saying that 100m dollar games can't be supported by subscription services. So there you have it. Straight from the horse's mouth. Sony can't afford to put PS exclusives on PS Now day 1.

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Airaku Cerebralbore101 (on 11 April 2021)

lol Sony has the highest revenue in the video game market and the highest budget for "gaming" related business. Believe it or not PlayStation has access to more money that Xbox does given how Microsoft compartmentalizes their divisions and budget them.

25 billion revenue is a heck of a lot more to work with than 11.8 billion. This isn't even close.

PS. I never have nor care to try PS Now. I have zero tolerance for lag and so should you and everyone else. If they offer a better service for a fair price and offer solutions to problems that plague the digital landscape, I would consider it. Game Pass also isn't to my standards or liking and while I tried it out for well, free as far as I'm concerned. It wasn't quite up to par of my own standards for the annual price it was asking. I either played and was done with all the games or I wasn't interested in most of them and if I brought all the games I wanted to play it came out to less than half of price of Gamepass. Offer a service with PS1, PS2, and PS3 games with downloads and I'm in!

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Puppyroach Airaku (on 15 April 2021)

This was also the case in the PS2 era. The market is shifting very fast now and I hope they have the ear to the ground to that they don´t the change that is now happening. I hope they can match GamePass so that they can broaden their appeal even more.

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kazuyamishima Bandorr (on 09 April 2021)

Yeah, but you know... Sony is feeling the pressure from Gamepass.

That’s the last that I heard.

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Dulfite Bandorr (on 09 April 2021)

One PS exclusive costs the same amount as 5-6 months of hundreds of old and new games on Gamepass. If you enjoy spending all that money more power to ya, but Sony exclusives are not at all comparable to Gamepass.

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Darwinianevolution Dulfite (on 09 April 2021)

This is especially true if MS exclusives come to gamepass day 1 (or at least soon enough), considering how many people will just use the system to basically rent the game for less than full price. Though I do have some doubts about the value of Gamepass in the long run if you mostly use it to play old games...

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dane007 Darwinianevolution (on 09 April 2021)

All ms exclusives are day 1 on gamepass

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AJNShelton dane007 (on 09 April 2021)
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Machiavellian Bandorr (on 09 April 2021)

I am thinking about all the games I would never have beaten that are on gamepass I probably would never have given a chance. To each their own. Gamepass will not be the solution for everyone but its a good solution. So far the service has not disappointed and MS continue to bring diverse and new content . Definitely has paid for itself already this year and we are not even at the half way point yet.

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Dulfite Bandorr (on 09 April 2021)

I have played and beaten a tremendous amount of games on Gamepass in the last half year. It's become my main place to game. And I've only spent $10 a month.

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