Cliffy B on Hate for PS3 DualShock, Feeding on 'Tears of Fanboys'

by Carlos Macias, posted on 22 March 2011 / 13,269 Views

Epic Games' Creative Director Cliff Bleszinski, aka CliffyB around the web, has shared his disdain for Sony's default controller in the past but for those of you looking for more clarification in 2011, here goes:

"I hate the DualShock," Bleszinksi said on this week's episode of Bitmob's Mobcast.

That wasn't all he said, of course. Bleszinski went a bit further and explained his complaints about the DualShock's design philosophy, as well.

"For my PS3, I got those little click-on things for the triggers, which is (sic) great. If you look at concave vs. convex for a thumbstick, your thumbstick should bow inward not outward so your thumbs can actually hook into there and kind of move along as opposed to being more like a mushroom top. And the DualShock also feels, to me, I can twist it in half like it's a third party type controller. I have my number of issues with it and even, fundamentally, the PlayStation branding when they named the buttons square, triangle, it's like putting Kanji on the f--ing thing."

Aside from design issues stemming from all the way back to the PS1 era, though, Bleszinski does mention some of the strengths of Sony's PS3 and what he's got to look forward to on the system. 

"People like to think I'm all up Microsoft's ass...Bulletstorm is out on PlayStation. It's in our best interest, as a studio, to have our technology on PlayStation. I love picking up "Scott Pilgrim" on Bluray and watching it. God of War is fantastic, I'm thouroughly looking forward to Uncharted but there's just little things that, as a creative, just bug the s--t out of me and they bubble up on the top of N4G and I feed on the tears of fanboys."

Make sure to check out the podcast for more insightful talk regarding Gears of War 3's background updates bypassing a title update, game pricing, and player feedback concerning Gears of War 2's 15% reduced player speed.


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SxyxS (on 24 March 2011)

Well -cliffy boy has been crying for Microsoft money when he talked about gears for PS3. It seemsMicrosoft paid the money and now cliffy boy has to do some advertising. Thanks god he forgot to mention the digital device desaster of the 360 controller. I needed some time to recognize:360 just means pay,pay,pay for nothing. You wanna play beat"em"up-you must buy a stick. Than you"ll have to waste your money on(recharg. Batteries(don"t mention the 300%plus money for a small HDD) but one thing is really better-the trigger buttons.


qmoney88 (on 13 April 2011)

I myself prefer the ds3 over the 360 controller, but I still find the 360 controller to be more than adequate it just takes a little getting used to. I dont get the frustration over the triggers either, ive never felt the need to have my fingers locked into em, but I also dont use them in fps's to aim and shoot, thats what L1/R1 are for. The only thing that I dont like about the ps3 controllers are what cliff touched on, which is the concave vs convex complaint which is a valid one, I like how my thumbs rest on the 360 sticks. In the end its all a matter of preference and whether or not youre a multi console owner.


Podings (on 07 April 2011)

I never enjoyed DualShock either. It's only become more of a joke over the years. The sooner the industry moves away from that as a standard the better. Sony actually made a new controller I guess, with the Move. But whaddya know, it godawful for anything other than the tracking.


Mazty (on 28 March 2011)

What an idiot. Says square, triangle etc is like Kanji, whereas A, B, X & Y isn't at all going to be confusing for those whose language isn't based in Germanic roots. Ignorant American prick.


Zonagh (on 25 March 2011)

I guess Cliffy felt obligated to kiss a little Microsoft ass after Mike Epps' comment about how he'd "love to bring the Gears franchise to the PS3". I still hope Epps' comment is a foreshadow of things to come, especially since Epic owns the rights, NOT Microsoft. That would really start some fanboy fun. I will say that he's damned right about the triggers. Those are an absolute travesty. Everyone of my friends, and myself, have bought the same snap on triggers he's talked about. Ironically, the trigger on the Move Controller is more like a trigger. Now if we could only get those on the L2/R2 of the DS3, that would be GREAT.


DonFerrari (on 24 March 2011)

Thank god i don't have to feel uneasy playing GoW3 on DS3... the one epic makes isn't avaiable and the one Santa Monica made i love to play with my sh!t DS3 controller.


errorpwns (on 24 March 2011)

@Nolgan: Razer Onza is coming out and it is amazing. I prefer the 360 controller as the triggers conform better to my thumbs and the way the two joysticks are laid out. Having both on the bottom just feels weird to my hand I guess. Maybe it was due to my gamecube gaming back in the early 2000's. Batteries: Just buy the rechargable battery packs. Plastics: My ass, I think the 360 controller feels better constructed than the PS3 one. Buttons: I think the buttons are great, minus the Dpad, which the PS3's version sucks too Sticks: My ass, the position on the DS3 feels less natural. Quality: Ive seen more broken Ps3 controllers in my time.


pukem0n (on 24 March 2011)

wow Nolgan, learn to spell and people will start to take you serious and not just see another fanboyish child... as for me, i like them both, even though i only have an xbox, i like the PS shaped controller more on my PC :D stupid fanboywars, i too feed on their tears. Go cliffy b


Pavolink (on 24 March 2011)

Notice will be the day he says that likes something from Sony or Nintendo.


nolgan (on 24 March 2011)

sorry poor x360 - Best DS3 - Batteries, the x360 command is a battery, in addition to fat, which are the batteries, and also the lie of the x360 batteries, which are 2 bad batteries in a package, to be better 2 x normal Akalin - The load and play it you have to buy a part - The plastics are of poorer quality - Battery / battery lasts less than half what does the battery of a DS3 - The buttons have a touch HORRIBLE - The spreader is HORRIBLE - The position of the stick is forced and unnatural, is much better the position of the stick in the DS3 - The R2 and L1 are better than the x360, which are designed to trigger only FTP, when lso DS3 buttons are for every game - Breaks a lot more, and NO I never know anyone who has had to buy another DS3 breakage, or with play1 NEVER, nor play2 nor play3, the play controls are foolproof, however my friends x360 have had to buy a few for cracks


nolgan (on 24 March 2011)

as you can not say that the DS3 is broken, I think there are many lies in this aspect, yaq that controls play, a reputation he has is its durability, hardness and pump tests are say otherwise is lying ds3 for me is much better than x360, for many reasons that I will share, and there is only 1 thing I like about the x360 command x360 better - The stick in the hole x360, which esmas comfortable to use more accurate finger stick Best DS3 - Batteries, the x360 command is a battery, in addition to fat, which are the batteries, and also the lie of the x360 batteries, which are 2 bad batteries in a package, to be better 2 x normal Akalin - The load and play it you have to buy a part - The plastics are of poorer quality - Battery / battery lasts less than half what does the battery of a DS3 - The buttons have a touch HORRIBLE - The spreader is HORRIBLE - The position of the stick is forced and unnatural, is much better the position of the stick in the DS3 - The R2 and L1 are better than the x360, which are designed to trigger only FTP, when lso DS3 buttons are for every game - Breaks a lot more, and NO I never know anyone who has had to buy another DS3 breakage, or with play1 NEVER, nor play2 nor play3, the play controls are foolproof, however my friends x360 have had to buy a few for cracks For these reasons and more, for my DS3 is a lot better than the x360 command ps: you say that psn is worse than gold live, lie, one thing is 1 or 2 year play3 that psn was recently created xbox1 live comes from, and had a long running but since late 2009, psn is = to live and even better in some games NO and yet seen any live game work with 1mb of internet LAG, as does MAG psn and only see and play live and also pay for play later found that shit gear of war 1 and 2, is a scam, it is reported to micorosofot also houses 3 partys and many have said, the server of gold live and psn are the same, except that microsoft only pay COD, how strange that the solution to the cod B treyard ops is .. close server online and send a copy of COd b x360 ops, they mean by that .. $ $ $ By microsoft instead of making things right, white and bottle .... milk;)


Dr.Grass (on 24 March 2011)

@geddesmont "You have to love some people. First of all we are not here to discuss the Xbox 360 controller and I don't have an Xbox so why would I comment on that." I'm saying that one person's experience with a product doesn't necessarily tell you anything about the product at all. For instance, my BMW might have broken, but that doesn't mean BMW's are unreliable. "What do you go around inspecting every DS3 controller you come across or are you so facinated by DS3's that you bought 20 of them?" Don't be silly. If you add all the DS3's of the people I know together its about 20. None of them have broken. My friend has 4 360 controllers and 2 broke. I'm just using this as an example of how you can't generalize in the way that you have.


PX54 (on 24 March 2011)

Controllers come down to personal preferance, i much prefer the dualshock over the 360 controller. For starters the 'triggers' on the dualshock are more designed as accelerate and brake as opposed to the 360 where they're shoot and aim/secondary fire. Historically the Playstation shooter games have had R1 as fire. I prefer the convex sticks over the concave ones not to mention the positioning of them next to each other as opposed to offsetting them - though i suppose on the 360 this comes from the d-pad originally being horible (the new controllers improve on it but it still doesn't match up the the PS d-pad) I find the LB and RB buttons very lightweight and it feels like they could give in at any second, i also dont like how the battery pack sticks out at the back leaving you with a gap in which your fingers can become caught when you become incensed at a game and find yourself moving all over the place as if to try and influence your character more. I understand the comment made about build quality though i feel this is probably because the dualshock is lighter than the 360 controller, i would also say the 360 controller feels like it's made from cheaper materials. I see no reason to complain about the naming of the buttons triangle, square, circle and X. I mean who said that A,B,X,Y was the correct way to name the buttons. At least the decision behind the naming on the dualshock is Sony's own not copying the Nintendo way - http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/08/26/the-origins-of-triangle-circle-x-square/ Basically this design has been around for 14 years i think there's a reason it's not changed much in all that time


Mordred11 (on 24 March 2011)

VGC should stop posting these kind of ''news''...They can't even be considered news,they are a joke,and no one cares what guys like CliffyB,Pachter,Molyneux,etc. say...


Bl00dSaint (on 23 March 2011)

hmm why was my post deleted vg? All I said was 'Honestly the xbox controller feels more comfortable and is easier to use than the PS3 controller' Did sony pay you to delete my post?


Goddbless (on 23 March 2011)

Why are so many people commenting about x y a b being stupid for a controller when Nintendo and Sega did the same thing. Nintendo even had a C-Stick and Z trigger.


walkerj (on 23 March 2011)

Hmm, They banned me once for posting twice on the same article and this time I tried to get banned by acting completely ridiculous..and nothing. Way to be inconsistent of your banning policies.


MARCUSDJACKSON (on 23 March 2011)

a core 360 yet central PS3 fan friend of mine has controler issues with the PS3 as well sighting a more relaxed fill when placing your hands on the 360 controler, and of course 360 has the 2 games he wants and PS3 only has 1 game considering finale fantasies multiplatform status. Samuel Lair will debate you on why one console is better then the other as PS3 has won in our debates every time only cause of blue ray and other technological advances made by the platform. he has yet to touch a PS3, knows the facts and prefures 360 over PS3 for games, online, the controler, and his love of US tech. in his words Sony killed the PS3 with advanced tech resulting in a high price.


ali_manslayer (on 23 March 2011)

cliffy B, you are the biggest fanboy on the planet


geddesmond2 (on 23 March 2011)

@DR Grass You have to love some people. First of all we are not here to discuss the Xbox 360 controller and I don't have an Xbox so why would I comment on that. Secondly are you a DS3 inspector or a collecter or something. "The 20 ds3 controllers you know of" What do you go around inspecting every DS3 controller you come across or are you so facinated by DS3's that you bought 20 of them? I mean what the hells your point? Are you calling me a liar over my 5 broken Dualshocks or something?


GuiltySpartan77 (on 23 March 2011)

I remember every time i bought a Dualshock 2 controller for the PS2 it never rumbled and i bought like 4 or 5 of them through out the ps2 era. So i hated the DualShock 2 but the 3 actually rumbles when i used it. PS3 controller feels like a toy though Xbox has the best controller


dsister (on 23 March 2011)

Geddesmond must be playing a lot of Demon Souls... :P


arcane_chaos (on 23 March 2011)

wow...can't believe this got up to 81 comments(82 considering mine)


Thefrag (on 23 March 2011)

I agree with some points you said, but who really bitches about the button symbols that have been around for 16 years? Thats just plain dumb. I have 4 ds2's and all of them are broken/ not working like they should. My 16 year old ps1 still has all its working controllers, I'm like wtf? 1 controller has sticky buttons, 1 with the r1 & r2 triggers snapped off, 2 with the rubber analog nubs ripped off. I have a power a that is pretty sweet combination of a 360 and ps3 controller( relocated analogs and a decent d-pad) but that even feels like it wont last. I never cared for how awful the 360 dpad is by default, even on the newest version so its not like the 360 is perfect, hell give me a wireless mouse and kb and I'll be happy gaming on the consoles. I believe Cliffy is a fan of whoever is writing him checks, cause he has always been a cocky douche, even way back on ut 1.


ithis (on 23 March 2011)

"You can't really call a developer a fanboy for stating things he hates about the dualshock." You can if he complains about symbols. It's not all black and white. There are problems with all things. But some of the problems are not even problems, and to consider them hate worthy is a sign of fanboysm IMO.


Dr.Grass (on 23 March 2011)

Too many things to comment on... Well... ''I bought a total of 6 dualshocks and right now 5 of them are broken in one way or another. The analog springs are broken on 2 controllers'' Funny, because of the 20 odd DS3 controllers that I know of a total of zero have broken. Conversely, I know someone who has lost 2 of his 4 360 controllers due to the thumbsticks rubber coming off and then eventually breaking. The most sense I've seen is: ''my perfect controller would be. have the exact same DS3 layout (leave the sticks where they are [it makes no sense to have them on different planes, and is just weird], keep them convex, leave the face buttons and d pad the same) but make it more xbox like in shape (so more rounded, but get rid of the god awful annoying battery pack in the middle) then make more xbox like triggers. that is the best of both controllers.'' And this is just pure WIN: ''eh, Gamecube controller was the best so whatever''


geddesmond2 (on 23 March 2011)

You can't really call a developer a fanboy for stating things he hates about the dualshock. I'm a big Sony fan and I have issues with the Dualshock controller. Like how they are so easy to break. I bought a total of 6 dualshocks and right now 5 of them are broken in one way or another. The analog springs are broken on 2 controllers. The spring on the R2 button is broken on another and The springs are gone on the Triangle and Circle button on another 2. I also had to buy the Trigger buttons your man Cliffy B is talking about because the L2 and R2 buttons are to far in and sometimes they don't respond when you press them without the Trigger add ons. Not to mention its uncomfortable to use.


chapset (on 23 March 2011)

what about the start button that's so pointy it can cut your thumb into two, my cousins best friend wife nearly cut her neck trying to play god of war at the title screen because of that god forsaken start button


ljlrj (on 23 March 2011)

SOMEONE BUTT HURT BECAUSE NO ONE BOUGHT BULLETSTORM ON THE PS3, POOR BABY


maximus22 (on 23 March 2011)

I bet this guy loves to sniff his own farts.


Thefrag (on 23 March 2011)

Nothing says fanboy more then "feed on the tears of fanboys". Cliffy has always kind of been a douche, and now that he's making more money on the 360 (and thusly shunning the pc where we made him famous) he's even more so. In my opinion, the guy hasnt made a game i'm intereseted in since ut 2004.


NNN2004 (on 23 March 2011)

Cliffy B is a xbox fanboy confirmed.


The Fury (on 23 March 2011)

@buglebum " it's much easier to convery 1, 2, 3, 4 or a, b, c, d then....Oh I can't because I can't type in shapes and shapes aren't 1 character long on a keyboard." It's a controller is not a keyboard. Tell me, you are currently speaking English right? which uses the Latin Alphabet, but what of Japanese? Russians? Greeks? Chinese? Latin is not used in every language but shapes are. Everyone knows what a triangle is by shape and imagery even if it's harder to type. Also, we teach babies shapes before numbers and words, do we not?


ithis (on 23 March 2011)

@buglebum: What???!!!.... Your whole reasoning comes down to "When was the last time you saw a control device other than the PS3 using shapes as a symbol to represent something." that is, "I'm used to controllers that have letters and numbers on them so one that has symbols is "blidingly stupid"". I had no prior experience (read bias) with symbols on a controller, so I had no problem whatsoever with them. Hating on something because it's not "the norm" is blidingly stupid. Yes, it's easier to type A and 1 than / and O and X and especially square, but on the other hand they look much better. A developer that hates on a controller because of the symbols on it is a fanboy.


buglebum (on 23 March 2011)

@Ithis, no he's just saying it's retarded symbols to use on a controller, it's much easier to convery 1, 2, 3, 4 or a, b, c, d then....Oh I can't because I can't type in shapes and shapes aren't 1 character long on a keyboard. When was the last time you saw a control device other than the PS3 using shapes as a symbol to represent something. It's blidingly stupid and only done for effect. All this is blatently obvious though, if you needed that explaining to you then you clearly don't want to understand and would believe a developer is a fanboy!!! hahaha ridiculous notion.


ithis (on 23 March 2011)

"fundamentally, the PlayStation branding when they named the buttons square, triangle, it's like putting Kanji on the f--ing thing" - That's a retarded ideea. WTF? Does he mean that he has difficulty telling apart a square from a circle? Or doesn't he know how many sides a triangle has? That's funboy level hate right there. Oh well....


shuraiya (on 23 March 2011)

It probably comes down to the kinds of games you enjoy. I prefer the PS3 controller to the 360 because it is superior for the kinds of games I enjoy, Rpgs (especially if the combat system relies heavily menus), fighting, and action/adventure games. I'm not into shooters, but I have played them on the PS2/PS3 and Xbox/360. The one thing I immediately noticed when I played a shooter on the Original Xbox right after playing one on the PS2 is how well the controller responds compared to the PS2. The button placement is almost perfect for the genre, to the detriment of other genres.


Griffin (on 23 March 2011)

The PS3 controller is made so much better then the 360 one, to suggest otherwise is lunacy. For starters the PS sticks are of much better quality, they have almost no deadzone, the PS sticks also have a much larger range of motion. The D-pad is also perfect on the PS compared to the 360. Also the fact the two sticks are placed together allows your brain to react faster and allows your hands to remain in equal places compared to one high and one low.


Reebokanonymous (on 23 March 2011)

I love Cliff. He makes great games. But I think the PS3 controller has its merits. I like it for platformers and racing. Too bad shooters are all that's on the market right now for PS360. Speaking of platformers, what's up with this generation? It's like I have to buy a Wii, and all I get are two platformers. What happened to the dynasty of Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Banjo Kazooie, and Gex? Jk about Gex.


Ostro (on 23 March 2011)

Hm, I kind of share his bad thoughts about the PS Controller but I wouldn't put it that harsh. The sticks are surely weird to me, the controller feels cheap compared to other consoles' (and breakes more often according to my friends who tend to drop their controllers all the time) and it's way too small for my hands. Playing games that use more than 2 shoulder buttons make my hands hurt really fast unless I hold the controller with three fingers instead of using my hands :D


Grandia (on 23 March 2011)

Cliffy B is so cool, he always slap this dumb PS3 Fanboy Nerds in there faces. Everyone should handle PEE ASS3 Fanboys like he do, because they are the worst dirtbags in the whole Gamingindustrie. Every normal Person who ownes a PS3 like me feels ashamed that he has this console only because of this PS3 Fanboy Nerds.


osamanobama (on 23 March 2011)

he is acting all high and mighty, saying he feeds of fanboy comments. but what are his, some how his comments are objective and not fanboyish, but then people who disagree with him are immature fanboys. my perfect controller would be. have the exact same DS3 layout (leave the sticks where they are [it makes no sense to have them on different planes, and is just weird], keep them convex, leave the face buttons and d pad the same) but make it more xbox like in shape (so more rounded, but get rid of the god awful annoying battery pack in the middle) then make more xbox like triggers. that is the best of both controllers.


osamanobama (on 23 March 2011)

you cant spell ignorant without cli... err... well any way this guy is an idiot, complaining about the symbols on the buttons, um because a b xy make so much more sense. and you could easily argue that the concave sticks put pressure points around the edge of your thumb. also try to twist a break the DS3, it will be just as hard to do as the xbox controller the build quality is fine. there isnt a big enough difference between the controllers to be such a fanboy about it, they r basically the same. oh and im sure he loved the orginal xbox controller and not the DS2


rutea7 (on 23 March 2011)

lol, he has issues with geometry?


thedaftman (on 23 March 2011)

eh, Gamecube controller was the best so whatever, but on topic 360 > PS3 but hopefully one day Xbox = PS, so all gamers' fingers will never cramp


binary solo (on 23 March 2011)

Fair enough if you hate those aspects of DS3 then you shouldn't pussy foot around with your criticism. For me the size of the DS3 is absolutely fine, I have reasonable normal sized hands for a man (I think) so the complaint about fitting hand size is really only a case of what you're used to using, and is only an absolute barrier for people with unusually large hands. I like the lightness of the controller, like I like any electronic device that I will be carrying for a long time to be as light as possible: cell phones, laptops etc. I wonder when heavier = better for hand held consumer electronics became the norm? I can certainly see the point of the convex vs concave thmbstick thing for grip, thumb does slip around a bit. But without having played extensively using a concave thumbstick my impression is that the convex surface is comfortable with better distribution of pressure on the surface of the thumb. So pros and cons there perhaps. Perhaps the concave surface pros outweigh the cons. I haven't had any issues with the L2/R2 triggers, I like some aspects of the trigger design, but I'm reasonably ambivalent. If I'd played on 360 perhaps I might have a dimmer view of the DS3.


binary solo (on 23 March 2011)

Fair enough if you hate those aspects of DS3 then you shouldn't pussy foot around with your criticism. For me the size of the DS3 is absolutely fine, I have reasonable normal sized hands for a man (I think) so the complaint about fitting hand size is really only a case of what you're used to using, and is only an absolute barrier for people with unusually large hands. I like the lightness of the controller, like I like any electronic device that I will be carrying for a long time to be as light as possible: cell phones, laptops etc. I wonder when heavier = better for hand held consumer electronics became the norm? I can certainly see the point of the convex vs concave thmbstick thing for grip, thumb does slip around a bit. But without having played extensively using a concave thumbstick my impression is that the convex surface is comfortable with better distribution of pressure on the surface of the thumb. So pros and cons there perhaps. Perhaps the concave surface pros outweigh the cons. I haven't had any issues with the L2/R2 triggers, I like some aspects of the trigger design, but I'm reasonably ambivalent. If I'd played on 360 perhaps I might have a dimmer view of the DS3.


Aprisaiden (on 23 March 2011)

how is square/triangle/x/circle more complicated then A/B/X/Y ??


Vueguy (on 23 March 2011)

i do think Sony need a new re-design controller. too late fo this gen, but for PS4, they need a better controller designer or at least make a controller design competition for the Sony fans to design a controller and see which is the best and pick that one.


Calmador (on 23 March 2011)

I want to apologize to anyone who saw my previous comment... I deleted it... it was immature and stupid of me. It doesn't matter if MODS don't check us up here... doing whats right is right. And what I did is wrong and shouldn't be done even if I can get away from it. There goes the argument of piracy advocates that think people only do what's right (not steal, pirate) because there's consequences for doing what's wrong or else everyone would do it because it's human nature. Human nature is evil. But guess what... we have a choice... to choose from our lowly evil human nature and to choose to do what's right. I don't excuse myself to do whats wrong. I choose to do what's right EVEN if I can't get caught. Amen, all glory to G-d!


r505Matt (on 23 March 2011)

The awful PS3 controller is the only reason I get my multiplats on the 360. I feel exactly the same way as Cliffy B here. The whole trigger thing is just awful, and I shouldn't have to pay extra money to make it tolerable. My fingers slide off of the analogs sticks often (though it's not as bad as it is on the PSP), and the whole controller feels like a small toy that will just break if I put pressure in the wrong spot. If the controller wasn't such a piece of crap, I'd probably never would have even bought my 360.


tripleb2k (on 23 March 2011)

@decoyoctopod calling people assholes because they're sharing their preferences? yeah, we're not the assholes here buddy


pitzy272 (on 22 March 2011)

If anyone is getting mad about the comment, please don't be so sensitive. I'm a ps3 guy and I have yet to hear/read a comment of Cliffy B's that has angered me. The guy is opinionated, but the things he says aren't "ps3 is a terrible system". He just gives his opinion. He also had some good things to say about ps3 as well. Who cares if he doesn't like the controller?! He has a right to an opinion. Sometimes I think he says things bc he knows fanboys will act like he just insulted their mother. So just relax a little. YOU PEOPLE are what's gonna make him dislike the ps3. Moving on, I must say I agree with Cliffy B in some areas. I like the ps3 controller for the most part, but I think it was really odd (i.e. dumb) for Sony to stick with the convex triggers. After about 6 months to a year of consistent use, the grips wear away and your thumbs can tend to slip off, ESPECIALLY if you've been playing for a few hrs and your hands get sweaty. If Sony doesn't change this next gen, I'll be pretty irritated. I guess the controller could also use some more bulk, too. I do NOT agree with Cliffy B. on the triangle/square comment. I actually prefer this, and dislike the 360's a/b/x/y. Although Sony could definitely make their controller nicer looking if they made the colors of the shapes more vibrant and had the clear coating overtop of them like the 360 controller. Make the dualshock look sharp! One thing Cliffy B didn't mention but I hope Sony works at (something that isn't a feature of the 360 controller either) is making the controller so that a person can have fingers COMFORTABLY on all four shoulder buttons (at the same time). If you try to do this with the DS3, your (well at least my) middle fingers will cramp after a little. They should pull the L2/R2 buttons down a little so your middle fingers can rest naturally on them.


think-man (on 22 March 2011)

I thought everyone hated the xbox controller? Well I do anyways feels weird and looks like a toy.


Cooltown (on 22 March 2011)

Really comes down to what you're used to I think. If you use PS3 more, you'll prefer PS3. Same for 360.


gergroy (on 22 March 2011)

Haha And Hasanwhy takes the Award for most hypocritical response, awesome!


Chevinator123 (on 22 March 2011)

i dont know what you people are talking about the ps3 controller is perfect for me i find no differnece in controllers both feel great the only thing i hate is the 360 chargers that u gota buy cause iv had like 5 and they allways break on me


Ssenkahdavic (on 22 March 2011)

Good to see someone actually sharing their beliefs, instead of doing the PC thing and being all passive aggressive. While I do not agree with any of what he said, I like the way he said it. Come out and say, "I hate this because______" The like or dislike of something is 100% your opinion and I like how instead of going to route of "the truth is" he went the route of "the truth for me is"


Tridrakious (on 22 March 2011)

It's to late to make a change now, but for PS4 I would do this: 1) Leave the analog sticks in the same place, but make them slightly concave 2) Make the R2 and L2 more trigger-like, leave them the same size, but trigger like 3) Make the "handles" thicker and/or bulkier, the increase in size would support stronger vibration motors.


Bl00dSaint (on 22 March 2011)

honestly if u have tried both controllers, you'll find the xbox one much more comfortable and easier to use.


dahuman (on 22 March 2011)

The PS3 controller was never that good, it has a lot of functionality built in but it doesn't have the comfort when people with larger hands have to use them. On that regard, the 360 is very good on the comfort zone for bigger hands, the triggers are better, just have to stay the fuck away from that shitty D-Pad and stay with the analog.


NightDragon83 (on 22 March 2011)

The PS3 controller is just proof that Sony has no real vision or originality. Sorry fanboys, but that's just the way it is... the PS3 controller is still fundamentally the same controller it was 2 generations ago on the PS1, which itself was then a ripoff of the SNES controller with a couple extra shoulder buttons thrown on for good measure. And everything they've added to it since... analog sticks, rumble/force feedback, wireless, etc... Nintendo did first. Now they have Move, which is the same damn thing as the Wii's controller plus nunchuk attachment. I agree with Cliffy in that I prefer the concave tops of the analog sticks like the 360 has along with the shoulder triggers, plus I hate the fact that Sony STILL refuses to change that God-awful D-pad on its controller... it's almost as bad as the 360's, but at least you were never actually required to use it the way you were the PS1's d-pad prior to the Dual Shock controller being released.


SuperAnthony64 (on 22 March 2011)

funny a cocky developer who gets one game right smack talks a controller that has been around since he was in middle school.


Zathic (on 22 March 2011)

The Kanji part was really dumb, but the rest I could understand if he hadn't sounded so dumb at that part.


craighopkins (on 22 March 2011)

ps3 controller sucks


fastyxx (on 22 March 2011)

Agreed. I bought a PS3 and barely use it to play games because I absolutely hate the controller.


greenmedic88 (on 22 March 2011)

While I don't normally agree with everything Bleszinski says, I am in complete agreement that trigger attachments on the DS3 are a great improvement (concave over convex) and I also prefer concave over convex analog sticks which is why I also use FPS Freak extenders. I also use them on the XBox controller.


decoyoctopod (on 22 March 2011)

It's all a matter of preference, you assholes. One isn't "better." They're just different.


Xen (on 22 March 2011)

Yeah, like Kanji *rolls eyes*.


cory.ok (on 22 March 2011)

i hate the 360 controller, it feels so cheap, and not to mention the directional buttons are horrible. they arent consistent, in games when i have to push left or right a lot and accuracy matters it annoys the hell out of me. not to mention almost all the buttons are digital, something that is crazy out of date. theyre horrible. among these things are the batteries needed to use the x360 controller. the ps3 controller has a rechargeable battery while you have to pay to use your x360 controller everytime the batteries run out. he can have his opinion, but dang do i disagree with it. the ps3 has the superior controller


chocoloco (on 22 March 2011)

I do not get any of this slipping nonsense what are you guys playing games after covering you hand in lube? I do think they should make bigger and smaller versions of the dualshock, for kids and men with big hands. The 360 controller does feel better, but I think it is pretty ugly. Functionability wins though over asteatics in this case.


decoyoctopod (on 22 March 2011)

I greatly prefer the PS3 controller to the 360's (feels bulky to me), but I can definitely see where he is coming from. Switching back-and-forth between the two can be challenging.


hasanwhy (on 22 March 2011)

It's funny to read some of the comments that state that they are above the fanboys. Any constructive inputs guys? Or do you love critiquing an opinion of an opinion?


EyeAmTJ (on 22 March 2011)

He isn't lying...The PS3's controller is designed poorly those trigger button are a pain in the ass & the controller isn't comfortable for me...But like he said he feeds off Sony Fanboys, so he should come read this thread SMH


yo_john117 (on 22 March 2011)

Yeah i'm definitely not a fan of the PS3 controller either (for the same reasons mostly)


Pr1mus (on 22 March 2011)

First of all this is not news. One guys opinion on a controller is not news. It's been said many times how terrible the news on this site are and this is one prime example on how useless gamrfeed is. Time to bypass this horrible site and instead have my bookmark go directly to the one thing useful here and that's sales numbers. Secondly, walkerj, you are shit. People on the internet in general are not particularly intelligent being, at least not those commenting on junk like this "news" article is but you are a prime example of the trash that populates this site. And since this site has the highest concentration of garbage news like this it goes without saying that the average intellectual level here is extremely low. On a side note: most of the rest who commented were actually able to be more articulate and bring constructive comments.


Maynard_Tool (on 22 March 2011)

I guess you can practically complain about anything these days


curl-6 (on 22 March 2011)

I feel the same way. It's too small, not ergonomic enough, and two generations out of date.


Hradekal (on 22 March 2011)

I do like that the xbox controller feels sturdier and bulkier. The triggers are also awesome. While I like the left thumbstick on the 360 controller being in a comfortable position, I would actually take the Dualshock thumbstick positioning simply because the xbox layout leaves the d-pad feeling much more awkward than the ps3 thumbstick feels. Since you obviously can't have both the thumbstick and the d-pad in the top left position, I'll take the thumbstick being lower as I find that to be the most "balanced" layout. The biggest thing for me however is the face buttons. I hate, absolutely hate, the way the face buttons feel on the xbox. Not to mention the way they reversed the Nintendo nomenclature on the buttons ticked me off. Triangle, Circle, X, Square, feel more accessible for me to press. I can hold square and press x with the inner knuckle of my thumb no problem. Doing that positioning on the xbox controller is uncomfortable because the buttons stick so far out. Have you tried playing a button mashing game on the xbox? You will be much slower than on the PS3. All in all, I think the xbox layout is perfect for shooters, but crap for everything else. The Dualshock is more balanced in my opinion. I would just improve it by making it thicker, sturdier, and giving it xbox like triggers for R2 and L2.


kain_kusanagi (on 22 March 2011)

I preferred the Sega Saturn digital controller over the PSone's original. The Sony d-pad is like four buttons instead of a real d-pad. I also preferred the Saturn Nights controller and the N46's controller over the Dual Shock. I just don't like the way it feels in my hand, the thumbsticks are too low and too close together. I also preferred the Xbox Type-S controller over the Dual Shock 2. I don't like how Sony's sticks have rounded tops. The Gamecube controller was weird so I preferred the the Xbox Type -S controller too. Right now I think the Xbox 360 has the most refined and comfortable controller than the PS3 and Wii, but of course the Wii and PS3 both have motion built in which is cool. Although the Six Axis was barely used.


Rawnchie14 (on 22 March 2011)

lol - I guess some comments here exhibit the fanboy tears that Cliff had mentioned. People need to stop crying so much - you don't even like the guy yet you still get upset when he has an opinion. lol, you funny guys. Gotta love the fact the guy is so honest though - well I do at least.


TheWon (on 22 March 2011)

The tears of fanboys is drowning me! You think by now people would realize that not everyone likes Sony. This generation has proved that in every way.


Silver-Tiger (on 22 March 2011)

Gotta agree with him here. The DS3 controller is REALLY good, but the 360 just is a small bit better. The shoulder triggers should really be replaced with 360-esque liek triggers, they're way more comfortable. And Sony should rework the analog sticks a little to make them more resistant to slippery fingers. Other than that, the DS3 is pretty much perfect. However, his compaints about the symbol layout are dumb. Symbols like triangle, circle and so on way more easier to learn also usable in all cultures all over the world. X,Y,A,B are letters that don't even exist in Asian languages for example.


hasanwhy (on 22 March 2011)

Absolute crap. Maybe the 360 controller should have outward style analog sticks and should be closer together. If you base your entire opinion on a console just on the controller, you need to rethink your life. Seriously, you don't see me complaining against the 360 just because its controller is different from the one on the PS3.


Baalzamon (on 22 March 2011)

Yea, over react definitely puts it right. In order for my thumb to go in, I would have to have my whole thumb arched up. Just having it simply sit on it as it does with PS3 controller works perfect.


oni-link (on 22 March 2011)

PS3 controller is usually uncomfortable compared to 360's wireless controller and Wii's classic controller pro. However it's still leagues better than the dreamcast controller, or the boomrang controller they initially planned = D


Monges79 (on 22 March 2011)

Agree completely


tripleb2k (on 22 March 2011)

I'll take the 360 controller over PS3's anyday.


Badassbab (on 22 March 2011)

Dualshock is crap for shooters and racing games. 15 year old design with analogue sticks tacked on after the N64 came out.


gergroy (on 22 March 2011)

Wow guys, way to overreact, it is one guys controller preference. And walkerj, wtf? Why are you so upset about this? Does this hurt you somehow? Your reaction is freaking ridiculous


Nighthawk117 (on 22 March 2011)

He says he loved watching Scott Pilgrim! That has to be one of the dumbest movies of all time. Confirmed: Cliffy B is a retard.


Pjams (on 22 March 2011)

Awesome, If he thinks the DS3 sucks then I know it is the best controller available. this guy can't stop being a fucking D-bag. Without Mark Rein this guy would be struggling to sell rabbits to PSN.


walkerj (on 22 March 2011)

Im gunna get banned anyway so one more comment! Cliffy, you said you liked god of war, press O to fuck yourself! Swirl the stick to lick your ass, triangle, triangle, Money Shot! Noone cares what you think.


walkerj (on 22 March 2011)

He doesn't have good taste for games. All he did was list the most popular and advertised Sony games to sound impartial. Epic's games are trash. Gears is a bunch of swollen, slow knumbskulls. Bulletstorm is the same thing but with worse graphics. He says PS# is in there best interests...I doubt it. What did buletstorm sell on the ps3? Not much...Ps3 gamers were busy with quality games like Killzone 3...About time they release unreal tournament 32 isn't it? Some more swollen looking fat headed characters with guns that sound like pea shooters. This guy is such a dooooooooosh. It's not that he loves miscrsoft or hates Sony, it's that he loves long, slender cocks. And I don;t care if he's gay, but does he have to be constantly shoving them up his ass in these press statements?


arcane_chaos (on 22 March 2011)

anything to stay in the news.....


V-r0cK (on 22 March 2011)

There may be a number that dislike the PS3 controller but its the most sold 'controller style' for gaming aside from the keyboard and mouse. Love it or hate, the dual shock has literally sold hundreds of millions for a reason so the haters are just minuscule.


V-r0cK (on 22 March 2011)

There may be a number that dislike the PS3 controller but its the most sold 'controller style' for gaming aside from the keyboard and mouse. Love it or hate, the dual shock has literally sold hundreds of millions for a reason so the haters are just minuscule.


walkerj (on 22 March 2011)

The dualshock is the best controller, followed closely by the gamecube controller. The xbox 360 controller feels swollen, it's way too big. Cliffy says a thumb stick should curve in so you can hook your thumb into it. WTF!?!? What kind of insane monkey grip does this guy have? He obviously isn't holding it right. I can't remember playing any game ever thinking GOD I WISH MY THUMB WAS HOOKED INTO THIS JOYSTICK. And he even gets pissy about the square and triangle stuff. As opposed to what? XYAB? What's the difference between 4 random letters and 4 random shapes? Maybe cliffy always puts the round peg into the square hole? Shapes are too complex? the 360 controller is not shaped to fit human hands. Im 6 foot 4. The controller is swollen on the sides and your fingrs all mash together in the back. You can't hold it comfortable and use the D-Pad and both Joysticks.


Chrizum (on 22 March 2011)

I hate the PS3 controller almost as much as I hate Cliffy B.


Ichigobankai123 (on 22 March 2011)

What's weird is that Sony designed the face buttons like that because of these two perspectives that they had: 1. It was very artistic to use shapes rather than letters. 2. A lot of kids who played the Playstation were young during the 90s and most couldn't read (or were learning to read, as the kids I'm referring to, they would be elementary students). However, learning to count and looking at numbers was universally understood, hence the face buttons, as each of the four "faces".... -had 1 side (the Circle button) -had 2 sides (the X button) -had 3 sides (the Triangle Button) -had 4 sides (the Square Button) My teacher told me that these were the two reasons that Sony used shapes, not letters as used on Microsoft's controller. I find it to be a pretty cool fact :) You can argue that the design is outdated, but it's a part of Playstation's heritage. Not many modern day game designers seems to remember the legacy of video game systems such as the first Playstation back then, and what the meaning of these kind of unique, even artistic in some cases, designs were.