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To get this out of the way, I could care less which of these companies are ahead. I have both consoles and I like both for various reasons.

anyway, why would you be comparing an install base and not just compare $$ made. To these guys it makes no difference whether one person buys eight or one. It is a sale of eight. This all seems odd for you being supposedly neutral and trying to figure install base to give someone an edge. Just give the numbers. Who sold more and how much money was made by each company. otherwise, who cares.

If there was such a care of fairness why then do you count nintendo software that is packaged with the console?

yea, I have a nintendo too and like some of those games as well, so don't bother with the fan boy stuff.

It is just odd. On reviewing hand there is separate scales for the this generation graphics scores. We have some post on software that includes software sales that are bundled with hardware as software sales numbers. Now, we are weeding out sales of one company, because consumers are buying multiples and this dosen't accurately reflect install bases.

I'm sure if we sat around and discussed this enough, we could weed out alot of sales in alot of different areas.

just saying.

money is money. Im' going to play games.

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Im late with this post, but Kinect Adventures has sold nearly 2.5 million alone, not everyone who has Kinect buys that game - some may have bought another.. So to say Kinect has sold 2.5 million seems very accurate.. I like how MS says sold versus Sony who says shipped.. MS could very well say they've shipped out 4 or so million - knowing full well - that over the millions of stores spread across the entire world that there would be millions sitting on shelves..

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@luisliu
what are sports champion numbers again? havent seen it on the chartz in months. for some odd reason vgchartz is tracking adventures for kinect and you can see those numbers.

why all the crying. sony said 4.1m shipped to stores geesh. stop being freaking fanboys and take what they said not what you want to believe. so what if kinect sells more it doesn't mean they're buying an xbox. you have non gamers, ps3 and wii owners buying kinect for their pcs and mac now do to the hacks. this is a big boom for kinect but might not bode well for xbox. they will be in the same camp as sony with an undetermined install base. software companies will most like ask for bundle numbers for a better count. microsoft is better off than sony since hell i got 4 controllers myself. the move install base will always be inaccurate. and all these whiners talking about them guessing most people will get two controllers wtf. play the fight with your 1 controller. so are all ps3 owners losers with no family? just one guy in his dirty underwear doing who knows what with the one move wand? get real.

i like kinect(dance central is king) and move is eh right now. the experience is different with both. so unless you are a fanchic get the f over it and try both for what they do. they really are apple and oranges.

If Kinect is already ahead of Move in terms of userbase and potential software sales, Kinect Sports vs. Sports Champion Sales (which are comparable) should be indicative of that. But that's not the case so far, and I think Sports Champions is bound to crush Kinect Sports in terms of legs. So either VGChartz does not evaluate sales data correctly or Microsoft's massive advertising campaign helps initial sales but Kinect users are not willing to buy software for an expensive and possibly disappointing product. And considering the low attach rate for Dance Central which is considered the best game for Kinect so far, a more in depth analysis for potential software sales is needed. 1.55 controllers per Move setup logic is too shallow.

Let's just compare software sales with software sales and hardware sales with hardware sales. It's not easy to make deductions about software sales just using short term, ad boosted hardware sales numbers. How many games that really matter like Heavy Rain, Resident Evil 5, Killzone 3 or SOCOM 4 will be playable with Kinect? What will happen if we see a Move compatible Call of Duty game? Move's hardcore potential which is already realized with Heavy Rain and Resident Evil 5, and the good attach rate of Sports Champions proves that Move is the right Move. Kinect will need more than sales data to prove itself worthy.

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@_mevildan
Must be your area. I see move controllers, and bundle's around me. I also only know of one person that has got move.

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So, there are no Kinect cameras on shelves? Not a single one?

Okay...

While I am not disputing the numbers, I do find it kind of suprising that such a large portion of the shipment is on shelves.

In my area, you just don't see the controllers in stores too often. The bundles you do. But there are some stores that I visit often that are constantly sold out of Move bundles and controllers. Plus half the people I know with PS3s bought Move when it came out. Obviously just my experience, but like I said, numbers are surprising to me.

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@welshbloke, yeah i cant find the main controller, i can find starter packs and the second controller, just need the main one!

@jneul
It probably is true the controller is now in short demand but then we are hitting the peak buying period. Of course somebody always manages to find a pile of anything in short supply at their local store.

Some of you may want to stick your fingers in your ears and whistle a loud tune before reading this article.

@jneul - Hard to find? my local retailers have plenty on store shelves.

@ jneul, im still trying to buy one from the store i work at, but everytime it stocks up and ive finished work, its gone

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move has sold a minimum of 3m, especially seen as it's so hard to find standalone controllers, the extra 1m will be starter packs and very limited amount of single moves lol, also pachter is always wrong

Well, at consumer price watch site in Sweden, prisjakt, not a single store has any separate Playstation Move Wands in stock, they're all sold out. So claiming 1.6 million on store shelves does not really compute. There are Kinects in stock though.

But Kinect is one single item and Move consists of both starter packs, stand-alone wands, and navcontrollers and might generate a good number of sales of stand-alone Playstation Eye cameras too. All separate less-expensive products so It would be PERFECTLY NORMAL for Move to seam to sell better (in numbers) but even then, gaming journalist are biased towards Microsoft and wrangle the numbers towards it. It's so obvious the source of the article is biased.

i still refuse to believe the sold through to customer number for the move. how hard can it be to get one move controller for the normal price if 1.6 million are on store shelves.

Well it says Shipped for Move not actually sold to consumers like the Kinect. So you can't say Move has even sold 4.1 million Moves world wide yet. Not sure why Sony didn't announce how many they actually sold to customers. Unless that 1.6 million number is correct for move at the bottom? Ah well appears Kinect is doing extremely well. 2.5 million in less then a month is pretty impressive.

@binary solo ... actually the console bundles are selling really well... at my store... Walmart 244 if you are keen to check it out... we can't keep the bundled consoles in, but we usually have 4-9 Kinect stand alones in... we get new shipments in on a regular basis

@Jereel Hunter: The problem is you dont est a gaming population(a no which you shld be able to est using your intellect) based on a sample poll of a 100. Do read each line.

And your justification for each consumer buying at least 2 or more controllers are ? You are basing your own opinions that you are surprised that each consumer isn't buying 2 or more. You forgot that each friend can buy a different game and each controller is sold at a profit.

Besides, based on your illogical logic, shld we base console user base on last gen's result ? Totally doesnt make sense just as basing console user base on no of controllers sold.
Bringing in biting fanboy terms doesnt help your case either. So your justification and your main source of gripe is ?

@kain: That pre-supposes people are mostly buying the 360 Kinect bundle. Whereas reports are suggesting the Kinect stand alone is selling out and bundles are somewhat more available. So the majority of Kinects are going to the existing install base. So what these numbers are telling us is that the 360 install base is more turned on by Kinect than the PS3 install base is turned on by Move. I doubt it's got much at all to do with the casual crowd. I think there might be a small % of Wii owners looking to do a HD upgrade and choosing Kinect over Move because of it being vastly different. But that would be a pretty small % of overall Kinect sales I think.

Other than Wii owners I don't see any reason why people would reject Move because it's a Wii clone and go with Kinect instead. I doubt any console noobs factor that into their thinking. It's more like Kinect simply appeals to them over either Wii or Move.

Wow, Kinect is already ahead even with Move's head start. Maybe it's true that casual gamers see the Move as the same as the Wii they already have and see Kinect as a new way to have casual family fun nights.

Im more interested in know how many people are getting and Xbox just for the Kinect, put that that data and THEN you can compare it to the wii, (same with Move)

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I believe wii is mentioned because greenberg said kinect would launch bigger then wii

Just to be explicit.
I don't think that it's reasonable to compare first 4 weeks, if one products' release (Kinect) is in the holiday season and the other one (Move) 2 months prior.
And to add HW numbers of a 3rd console from these 4 weeks,... for what???
let the flaming begin...
or what?

Illusion isn't always a bad thing.

Good to see Kinect sales are doing much better than most predicted. Sony keeps releasing SHIPPED numbers so the general public thinks it's more of a success than it is. It's been their tactic for a long time. I'm glad VGChartz gives clarity to this whole SHIPPED vs. SOLD nonsense.

Starting to think this whole banned from GAF is real lol..

Since when is selling more peripherals a bad thing? Sony is making money on each item sold and so is MS, the difference is Move has 3 products to complete a unit whereas Kinect has only the camera to complete a unit. When MS sells a Kinect unit the customer is giving MS $150 and that's then end of that deal. When Sony sells a Move unit comprised of a camera, Nav and Move they still have potential sales from the same customer. The way I see it Sony is getting more revenue off each customer but the sales of software are a different story but I'm not going to get into that because it favors MS. hehe just kidding.

WarmachineX can you please tell us who in the responses are refuting Kinect sales without substance?

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I'm also waiting for someone to say "but how can you have 1.55 move controllers???" :D

Congrats to MS! I love it how even when presented with facts some people refuse to acknowledge Kinect's success ^^

Lol...the locals aren't going to like this thread...

Its funny, I don't know anyone who owns Kinect, yet I know people who own move (including my self) and its very rare where I come across a person on VG Chartz who says they own kinect. That just tells you it is doing very well in the casual market.

Are you guys serious ?? I mean... really ?!?!
facepalm

Good numbers for both. Let see how they do this holiday.

@ninty

they are comparing a month of estimate sales of wii+move with kinect

@ ninty_shareholder64

Far-fetched insinuates that the stats are "unlikely" or "unconvincing" when they statistical numbers that VGChartz had produced for past dates. The article stated a fact and wasn't trying to convince anyone of anything.

Any conclusions you drew from that statement, were your own.

I hear everyone talking about "unique" users" and how the number of "Unique Kinect users" is higher then the number of "Move unique users". Ok, fine, I'll give you that... lets speculate and work the numbers anyway you want....but by the same logic, taking the Xbox's failure rate of 50% for the first two years, we can draw the following conclusions: If the 360 sold 17M units during it's first 2 years, we can conclude the number of 360 unique users is actually 37.1M (take the 17m divide that number by 2, 50% failure rate. That brings the current number of units down by 8.5m... That means the PS3 is actually in 2nd place! (in terms of "unique users"!!) AHAHAHAHAHAHA ... I'm just saying..

Who honestly expected Kinect not to blow Move away in sell-through? The device changes what casuals think of video gaming completely - and the media (celebrities etc) are eating up for breakfast (even if they had monetary incentives).

Both are still doing well though, despite the gap. This is what I expected out of this clash.

"...the number of unique Move customers stood at 600,000 worldwide and Wii hardware sales at the same point in time stood at 1.65 million so Kinect has actually sold faster than both combined in these first few weeks."

ROFL
what a far-fetched comparison, made me laugh
but looking at these comments, sorry, but it worked.
lol

don't really care about both.
don't really care about how both sell good or bad, not my business.
the money didn't come to me, it go to MS and Sony.

but as it stand now, Move support better games.
Kinect games are a bunch of crap as of now.
MS better announce some hardcore games for Kinect.

STEKSTAV fanboys wars be stupid.

Well, Snowdog, Microsoft did say that they were aiming for the casual market. I think it's safe to say that the casual portion of most any market dominates the core/hardcore. And in my personal opinion (which is going to ignite some flames here) is that the Xbox 360 is a more casual gaming console amongst the three (yes, including the Wii). Therefore with this reasoning, I see Kinect doing VERY well with the Xbox 360. I'm not trying to start anything here. I'm just giving my honest non-judgmental assessment. :)

Lame article is lame lol.. thank god we have VGC here to ignite the fanboy war. Good stuff!

I'm quite surprised (despite the obscene $500m marketing campaign) that Kinect has sold as well as it has. For my money it's the worst motion control solution of the lot because it's only suited for the casual demographic. I can't understand the thinking behind releasing a motion control solution that is impossible to be used for any kind of shooter. MotionPlus and Move can be used with a wider variety of genres aimed at both the casual and hardcore demographics, whereas Kinect is limited for uses. Impressive sales, but quite a surprise imo.

Move-VERY impressive numbers considering it doesn't even come close to Kinect's marketing.
Kinect-VERY impressive numbers considering it's only been out for 4 weeks.
In conclusion,both devices are doing great.

looks like microsofts 500 million marketing works
if they do one thing well, its selling stuff

Jereel Hunter, "Sony Defense Force" was a bit uncalled for because these numbers are estimate, NOT facts so you cannot blame anyone for being reasonably skeptical. I agree that unique users are good to know. That's not the problem. The problem is the potential inaccuracy of the figure.

Ok, let's clear up a few things for the Sony Defense Force members swarming in -
First of all, there's a reason they want to know unique users. Because selling the move for $50 or whatever isn't where Sony's profit is going to come from, it's from games. And because I want 2 controllers, for me and a friend to play, does NOT mean I need to buy 2 copies of a game. So unique users gauge what their potential audience is. Get it now?

@Yuyyder What about these numbers do you think is the problem? 1.55 controllers per person seems lower... So many motion games are suited to playing with friends, I'm surprised everyone isn't buying 2. 1.55 makes sense. Your problem seems to be simply that they can't count 2.5m unique users(users that can buy games), which clearly isn't the case. Or should we base console user base on number of controllers sold?

Sony did not state anywhere on whether the sales of Move was shipped or sold through. It was assumed by VG that is the shipped through rate. The stated shipped number refers to the no of PS3 Hardware shipped at 41.6m, not Move.

Besides, the logic is illogical. You cannot represent the whole of the US gaming population based on a sample size of a 100. Totally ridiculous. How about sample polling 10 consumers with 5 controller each. That will reduce unique Move users to 500K Worldwide. See the huge difference in result with just a small change in the polling number used ?

And not every Move user has to buy 2 Move. It can be that a group of friends each buy their own Move to enjoy the experience. That is a unique count in each user, so is that taken into account ?

And when each consumer buys two or more controllers, its meant for usage by another person. Whoever that 2nd, 3rd and 4th person is, that is a unique count by itself. So I am not sure what you are getting at by saying there is a second issue with Move.

the 4 months your talking of were around the launch of the 360 s im talking about the past 6 weeks where the ps3 has been cosistanly out selling the 360 well according to VG figures anyway but the 360 fiugres have been lower ill give you an example of ho much has changed since october 14th in EMEAA the 360 had sold around 17.3 million units and the ps3 was around 17.6 million up untill last week the ps3 was ahead by nearly 1.8 million units then suddenly the 360 figures jumped by 200k reducing the difference to just 1.6 million giving us the figures of 18 million 360's vs 19.6 million ps3's yet like i said ive checked this every week and ps3 sales in EMEAA have been consistanly higher yet somehow the 360 caught up by 200k, has someone at VG addusted the wrong chart by mistake cause i dont see ho the 360 suddenly sold 200k more than the ps3 but wasnt accounted for, im pretty sure if the ps3 sales number suddenly jumped from 16.2 to 20.2 in america wouldnt that make anyone else wonder if somthing naughty was going on like fixing numbers ect.

anyway i went completly off topic but i felt the need to do it, ive made my opinion about thses sales figures about move and kinect there both selling very well and if i was a share holder for either sony or microsoft id feel very relaxed right now but as i dont and im sure at least 99.8% of people who comment here dont have share with either company either shouldnt be that worried about there sales.

@GeneralMLD

The reason the 360 has been catching up to the ps3 was because it sold more in EMEAA for 4 straight months (I forget which 4 months they were). But anyone here can vouch for me on that, I'm just not that great of a statistics keeper.

And VG does not jump around shipped and sold, they simply are trying their best to give us the information. Microsoft announces their sales, Sony announces shipped. It is VG's responsibility to figure out how much PS Move sells.

They do not "skew" the figures in anyway, they try to translate Sony's sales figures.

No doubt Kinect is doing better than Move, but the idea that it's doing better than Wii seems faulty. Wii's were ultra rare the first year or so. Add that to the fact that Wii is a whole console and was thus much more expensive than Kinect, it makes them quite hard to compare.

Ultimately, I don't get the sense that too many people who didn't already own an Xbox are getting Kinect. As well as Kinect is doing, the 360 sales have basically normalized, haven't they? So regardless how well they sell, I don't think there's any chance they get to Wii levels or even half that amount.

not to take anything away from the success of Kinect. But i trust VGchartz's estimates as much as I trust Patcher, which is not at all. THey can estimate all they want, but until we get official Sony #s (whenever that will be) Im sticking with the 4.1 mil SHIPPED, and no I highly doubt that that much people bought 2 Move controllers not in this economy and if they did so what??? If im selling ice cream you think im gonna care if a person bought 2 cones for themselves??? NO

Nice analysis. Thanks!

hard to get numbers from one post to the next as VG constantly changes kinect sales from "shipped" to sell through, also i just love the way how everyone twists moves sales by using the old "you need 2 move controllers to count as 1 unit" regardless of the many people who bought move purely for single player only with maybe the odd chance they might purchase another move controller for either 2 player party games ect (how many controllers do i need to buy for a Wii to count as 1 unit !!!).

1 cam, 1 ps3, 1 move controller counts as 1 unit (you dont/shouldnt need to purchase multiple move controllers for it to count as 1 unit), i know a lot of pro xbox fans are going to cry "fanboy" but this stupid game of who doing better is just stupid, microsoft is squarly focusing on kinect sales, hell why do you think they would spend $500 million on advertising if they wernt going to support there latest gadget.

so what if kinect is selling better than move the fact that move has sold at all is an achievement in it self as sony did next to nearly no advertising for move prior to it launch nore after its launch (maybe there are more casual gamers on 360 now compared to a few years ago which would explain the surge in sales) sony has multiple directions it is taking right now with PSP2 and 3D for ps3 not to mention all the core titles comming next year.

oh and could somone shed a bit of light as to why the 360 is catching up to the ps3 in EMEAA as weekly figures have been consistanly higer for ps3 than 360 yet the gap between 360 and ps3 is closing some how according to the bar chart a few weeks ago the ps3 was 1.8 million ahead of the 360 now its just 1.6 million even though like i said the sales figures week on week have been higher for ps3 in EMEAA, is VG fixing figures naughty naughty !!!.

here we go with people trying to sound like there experts when they don't know squat about how many kinect or move has sold.

2.5 million sold for both. And Pachter agrees!

Move seems to be selling way better then I expected it to.
The casual market is strong.

So from Nov 17th today Move sold 600k including 250k from Black Friday???

And how do you explain a lot of Sold Out shops for Move with 1.6m on shelves.

NYANKS

Hard to get realistic numbers right now from Sony since the PR and Marketing people are probably driving the ship right now.

But it is highly suspect why Sony would opt to only respond to MS Kinect sales numbers by showcasing controller sales (shipped). Sony knows the real move adoption number may not be as impressive and opted for a number that might possibly put a damper on Kinect sales buzz.

That is good marketing plain and simple.

I think we should wait for better estimates and not operate on relative heresay. We'll have better numbers when Sony or someone says something, generally who isn't named Pachter.

Michael-5

if you read the linked article about pachter agreeing there is a line at the end that states that Sony itself has confirmed that move player are buying more than one controller.

It makes sense that motion controlled games in general are made for more of a social setting as Wii clearly showed.

The problem the move has to overcome is the notion that it is simply a high def version of the Wii. Considering the Wii install base it is likely that a lot of people may not bother at this point until some game comes out to set it apart from the Wii.

Kinect has the advantage of being something new and fascinating just as the Wii had when it launched. People will buy it just to see what the hype is about. The question will be how many of these sold units will be used in 6 months when the fascination wears off. That depends on the software.

Since both setups future growth depends on software then the one with the higher installed base is more likely to get developer attention. So if you take it like that it is clear to see why this has become an issue for both fan bases and companies.

Can't believe i'm defending the Wii, since i really don't like the console. But Wii was hard to get your hands on in the start, if it weren't for that it would probably had sold better than Kinect has done so far.

"It's more then Wii and Move combined in these first few weeks."

Thats nuts. I wonder if it affected console sales much, though.

What does it matter if the person buys more than one controller? That's their prerogative. Controllers sold are controllers sold. Just like if someone wants to buy a new xbox/ps3 after each one breaks instead of paying to fix it.

This site must be joke!!

I think Michael-5 here makes an interesting point . Of course it's rather simple to obtain Kinect sales. But with this site, Move sold through to customers and calculating the number of Move compatible PS3s are an estimate which should be considered with discernment. But I personally feel that Pachter is very dis-credible. So if his numbers fall in line with VGChartz's, it seriously lead me to believe that this site's numbers in regards to Move are very inaccurate. Just an observation. And I do have an opinion in regards to Kinect not moving a lot of Xbox 360 hardware so far. Unfortunately, it would probably lead to an unintended flame war.

You sampled 100 Move owners to get the controller to Move set up? Don;t you think that is a little small? Chances are these 100 people are not entirely random but chose to take part in a poll.

Still there is no denying that Kinect is selling more units then Move, and WOW move then Wii and Move combined .... thats nuts.

I'm surprised to see 360 hardware not getting that significant of a boost. It was only a 35k difference last week, and that was Kinect week 2 sales. I expect 360 to get a massive jump due to Black Friday and American dominance of the 360, but what about the week after?

Interesting part at the end of the article that the Kinect rates of sales is faster than the Wii & Move combined for the same time frame. Looks like Microsoft was right about it's launch being bigger than the Wii. Now can they hit the 5 million sell through by the end of the year? It looks likely.

I think both are selling very well and thanks for the breakdown of sales. One thing seems to be clear is that motion control gaming is catching on and will continue to gow in market share.