The Last of Us HBO Series Season 2 Teaser Trailer Released - News
by William D'Angelo , posted on 02 November 2024 / 3,664 Views
Max released the teaser trailer for season two of The Last of Us HBO TV series.
The Last of Us HBO TV series season 2 will air in 2025 on Max.
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I haven't watched the first season yet but want to since I love the first game.
This looks alright, but since the story and characterizations were the worst part of Part II, I'm worried.
Abby either needs to be a lot more sympathetic and the ending better handled, or she needs to have far less screen time vs. the game.
I swear the game was 60% Ellie, 40% Abby, and the big problem was that a lot of Abby's stuff went on for hours and hours with no Ellie.
They did change things up a bit to adapt it from the game to TV so they likely will for season 2. And I feel that’s gonna be needed.
My big problem with Abby is she fails to look out of her own bubble - both she and Ellie have lost their father/father-figure and want revenge on the killer.
Ellie ultimately sees the futility in her quest. Abby never does - she never sees why Joel killed her father nor does she realise her friends deaths are a consequence of her own revenge quest. Its the wrong way to invoke sympathy from the player.
I don't think either character was meant to simply be locked into a Main protagonist/antagonist role, given the way they developed. And I also ended up disliking Ellie a bit more by the end credits, entierly due to her final excursion.
Despite Abby sparing Ellie's life, twice, she decided to go after her anyway, after being provoked by Tommy. Who also became dislikable, as he knew full well that Joel would have never wanted Ellie to be put in that kind of danger. But Tommy sought revenge by putting her in danger because he wasn't capable himself.
Ellie redeems herself in the end by also sparing Abby. But at this point I have more disagreeance with Ellie than I do Abby. And her family ended up leaving her due to her actions.
I couldn't disagree with you more. Ellie didn't owe Abby a goddamn thing. Both times Abby spared Ellie, someone stopped her from going all the way, Owen at the beginning and Lev at the end. Ellie hadn't moved on from her killing Joel and she had to take that journey to move on. That's not to say that Dina wasn't entitled to leave her but Ellie just couldn't move on without doing something.
I don't disagree with you about Tommy though. At the very least he should've gone with Ellie no matter what since it was about avenging his brother.
Abby wasn't dragged out of those situations though. She became convinced (which may be neccesary to see things clearly through your rage), and made the decision. I don't think it makes a difference to me if its a matter of owing someone, or if that person is Abby or Lev, etc.
What is the point of letting someone live if they just come back to kill you or your loved ones again? Why would you spare someone the next time? Despite that, Abby still decided to do it again. On the behest of Lev.
These decisions have to matter. Otherwise the writers would have had something happen to separate them. But instead they had Abby let go of her desire to kill.
Its true that Ellie had not exacted revenge on the main person responsible for the death of her father, while Abby had. But after being spared, Ellie killed some of the people involved, that Abby loved. Perhaps even viewed as family in this world.
Abby must have really regretted the decision to let Ellie and Tommy live after it lead to Owen and others being killed. She clearly wanted to take revenge by killing Dina in front of Ellie. But despite all that, she decided not to, and to spare Ellie again.
Ellie is aware that she killed Abby's friends, and that Abby wanted to (and could have) take revenge for it, but chose to let them go. Again.
Ellie clearly has trouble living with Joel's death, and I imagine Abby does with her friends/family being killed as well. Especially because it was her (among others) decision to not kill Tommy and Ellie that lead to it.
But going after Abby again after being spared again, and after killing Abby's friends/family, made me dislike her.
She already tried, and failed. And she's only able to live a life with her own family because the enemy decided to spare her again.
If Ellie doesn't want that extra chance at life that was given to her, or can't go on living it, she could do something else, or end it herself.
Luckily, some things played out for the better because she went seeking revenge again. But I don't like that she made the decision to do it. Though Tommy guilt tripping her into it is part of the reason.
As for Tommy, I imagine he would have gone with her if he could. I think the reason he didn't is because he's physically unable to without slowing her down. He probably sustained permanent damage to his leg after getting shot with an arrow.
I think it does make a difference whether someone had to pull her out of her rage. That is not to say that she gets no credit from stopping herself, but she only considered that possibility because someone called to her. If it were up to Abby (at least on the theater scene) Dina would be a puddle of blood next to Ellie. That's really bad and it kinda makes her a really bad person, specially considering the theater scene happens AFTER she went on her journey of self-discovery and redemption with saving Lev.
In my view Abby's friends all got what they deserved. They involved themselves in the killing of a man so they have to pay the price if the man's loved ones want revenge. No one was held at gunpoint to go to Jackson. The only one I feel sorry for is Mel's child which obviously had no say in the whole thing but his/her death is on Mel and Owen for not telling Ellie she was pregnant. If they had told her ahead of time, I don't think Ellie would've done anything to her. Unfortunately Owen was a fool who didn't care about Mel and his baby and Mel cared more about Owen than the baby so what happened, happened.
My main point is that I don't think Ellie owes Abby anything. The decision to go and take revenge was hers to make and hers alone. Abby certainly wasn't stopped in killing Joel by Joel's help at the beginning of the game so those kind of outside factors don't necessarily have to change anything. Whether Abby spared or didn't spare Ellie a 100 times, Abby still killed her (for all intents and purposes) father and the person she loved the most. The only way to let go of that hatred has to be inside yourself, something has to change, which is what happened to Ellie.
I avoided who deserves what, since that varies a lot depending on who youd ask, and would spawn an entire sub-discussion.
But I think everyone can agree that Abby clearly wanted to take revenge because of what Ellie did so badly that she'd be willing to kill an innocent person (Dina). At least in her fit of rage, until she sees Lev.
Ellie's decision at the very end to spare Abby is similar to this, except she has no reason to believe that Abby would attempt to kill her or her family if she lets her go.
If she did, would she still have spared Abby?
I'm reminded of Joel's "You'd just come after her" at the end of the first game where he didn't want to spare Marlene to keep his family safe.
Abby risked the safety of her family the first time she let them go. And after the worst case scenario occured and her letting them live resulted in the death of her friends and family, she still let her go again.
On one condition. "Don't ever let me see you again."
If Ellie was the type of person to disagree with that, I would not have expected her to lie. I would have expected her to say something to the effect of "I'll keep coming after you until I kill you and everyone you care about. So kill me now or you'll regret it."
Similar to how she broke David's finger despite the obvious risk to her life rather than go against who she is.
But Ellie had no objections. So I presumed that she was not that 'dishonest or dishonerable' (for lack of a better term when it comes to murder and revenge) if not towards Abby or Lev, then towards herself, that she would take that deal, and then still go through with it.
A deal which took a lot of restraint from Abby and disregard for her own and Lev's safety.
And it appears that Ellie genuinely didn't seem to have plans or intent to persue this any more when Tommy presented the idea. So I don't think Ellie intended to decieve Abby at that moment. But later she changed her mind, and that's the part of the writing I didn't like.
It's easier for me to dislike Abby because of how she was introduced. It's more difficult with Ellie.
All the 'good' characters do 'bad things.'
And Ellie has been dishonest before. But I'd argue not like this.
Joel did save Abby, who killed him anyway. That's one of the reasons she was dislikable. But would he have saved Abby if Abby was responsible for let's say killing Tess and Bill, and he knew? And if he also had good reason to suspect that Abby would continue killing people he cared about if her let her live?
Given how he responded to Marlene pleading for her life, probably not.
I think the fact that Abby let them go more than once, despite knowing that risk, and especially after that risk became reality, can't be swept under the rug when evaluating Ellie's character.
Because there's really no equivalent action to this from the other side. Nor was there a condition for this (unreasonably generous) offer that they seemingly accepted, and then broke.
It's true. Ellie thought out the game goes on this whiny revenge where she's becomes a selfish brat..she has everything. And she's willing to throw it away even after knowing why Joel died. Despite her rage and killing everyone , when it came to Abby she couldn't do it..all of that rage and being selfishness led to nothing and she didn't achieve it but lost everything including her partner and friends
At least Abby as person by the end of the game became a much better person with alot of personal growth. Liked how her emotions was expressed and how it changed over time.
Gotta be at least one Abby enjoyer out there, and we have found him.
Loved the character. Hater.
Oh? Two of you exist? What a rare phenomenon!
There's alot more
Game should have been just about Abby and it would have been a much better game overall
She doesn't see why Joel killed her father because she doesn't understand the father-daughter relationship Joel and Ellie built. From her perspective her father was a physician hero who would bring a cure to humanity, only to be brutally murder by a brutal mercenary. She has no reason to context this view. Would you reason about someone who killed your innocent parents? This is not how human works
Abby finally get Joel-Ellie when she meets Levi. Her journey is the same as Joel. People are sympathetic with Joel because they never get to know the atrocities he committed. But dude was a big asshole who committed many crimes before meeting Ellien
For those who have brains. Both characters are to be admired.
Honestly a lot of the discourse in the comments just reinforces that Naughty Dog done exactly what needed to be do narrative wise... The game wasn't without its flaws or pacing issues, but it really stands as one of the most provocative stories in any medium.
New viewers are really going to be left reeling, I can't wait to see how the show goes down. I actually have a feeling that TV audiences will be more willing to go along with the rollercoaster. I think both because a broader audience, less sense of entitlement and somewhat related to that point; TV is a more passive medium, so the concept of motivation to continue to watch is different from being motivated continue to play. Especially as someone who you dislike
It’s funny how everyone else from season one looks adjusted and aged but Ellie still looks like a tiny ten year old girl because of the casting choice.
Also add me to team Abby. Ellie was a cunt in the second game.
yeah I noticed that firstly. It honestly doesn’t even look like a time skip.
I think they will follow the game structure and finish the S2 in the middle of Seattle, without giving us much background and context of Abbys story. The third season will adapt the Abbys past, Abbys journey with Levi and the endgame
This is the best way to handle the story, as it keeps the twists from the original and give Abby a redemption arc, instead of a repetitive and boring vengeance arc
Seems like the clock is ticking for me to play the second game in the series
Looks great. The first season is like the best adaptation of a video game Ive ever seen.
I must admit, I got the hots for Isabela Merced, she's on fire. I don't believe they will follow the plot from the game. They will deviate from it. No worries here.
Ugh, still upset at the poor choice in Ellie...
Excited for Season 2 though
Kaitlyn Dever as Abby is an interesting choice... especially since she was in Uncharted 4
Honestly, they really shoulda casted someone younger. The jump from the seasons show NO age gap lol
How so?
The actress, Bella Ramsay, just grew her hair out. In the game, you clearly see the maturity difference. It’s just not a believable time skip, is what I’m saying.
Still waiting for the PC port for part 2
I dont even know if this is possible to convey properly in a shorter format TV series. It seems to me that the reason the moment happened so early in the game, and the way it did, was so that the players would dislike the character as much as humanly possible. And then spend many hours trying to go from there to not disliking them. Which is very difficult to do. I dunno if they have time for that in the TV series.
This is why I felt the game was poorly structured.
It tried to make Abby sympathetic but did it back to front. If you’d played the first half of the game as Abby, explain her background and motivation then had Joel’s death occur half way through at the end of her story then it probably would have come across better.
The TV show is less likely to do that sort of split, rather have it more interwoven so might well avoid that issue.
The devs wanted to make you hate Abby with a burning fire, to then make you change your view a bit or a lot, depending on you, step by step.
It was brilliant and should not have done another way, the magnitude of feelings this can game take from players is unmatched exactly because of how their bravely chose to make you have to face it.
In the end I refused to either kill Ellie with Abby in the teather or kill Abby with Ellie in the beach, I literally dropped the controller both times refusing to do what the game was apparently making me do.
Abby will definitely play a big role on 3 so she can start to understand what Ellie had to let go from so she could live with Lev.
Ellie definitely planted on Abby the idea of what Joel represented for her, like she does for Lev, to the point that even after becomig traumatizated and losing everything, she still left Abby be the Joel for Lev.
The game's narrative isn't about having the player sympathize with Abby. It's about whether you can empathize with someone you, as a player, are clearly aligned against.
You don't need to feel sorry for Abby by the end of the game because that isn't the point. But can you understand what drove her to do what she does?
Sympathy could be a thematic element if the story was changed into the format you're proposing playing as Abby first. But the game isn't structured like that because it has a different intention.
Right, but that would have been more like the standard way of doing it, right? I think they wanted to try something a bit more different, which was seemingly to try and have players hate the character more than theyve perhaps ever hated a character before.
Can you then go from that intense hate to no longer disliking, or at least understanding that character in the span of just the one game's duration?
That will depend on the player, but they also need as much time as possible for that, which is why I think the event happened so early and suddenly.
So I wonder how they will do it in a TV format. Perhaps in a more traditional way, as you described.
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