PlayStation 5 Pro Releases November 7 for $700 - News
by William D'Angelo , posted on 02 October 2024 / 8,863 Views
Sony Interactive Entertainment has officially announced the PlayStation 5 Pro after months of rumors. The mid-generation upgrade to the PS5 will launch on November 7 for $699.99 / £699.99 / €799.99 / ¥119,980. Pre-orders will open on September 26.
The PS5 Pro will be a digital console, while the currently available disc drive is available as a separate purchase. However, it does include a 2TB SSD, while the PS5 Slim includes a 1TB SSD.
Read details on the PS5 Pro via the PlayStation Blog below:
We developed PS5 Pro with deeply engaged players and game creators in mind – as many have asked for a console that runs even higher fidelity graphics with smoother frame rates at 60FPS. We achieved this on PS5 Pro with several key performance features.*
- Upgraded GPU: With PS5 Pro, we are upgrading to a GPU that has 67% more Compute Units than the current PS5 console and 28% faster memory. Overall, this enables up to 45% faster rendering for gameplay, making the experience much smoother.
- Advanced Ray Tracing: We’ve added even more powerful ray tracing that provides more dynamic reflection and refraction of light. This allows the rays to be cast at double, and at times triple, the speeds of the current PS5 console.
- AI-Driven Upscaling: We’re also introducing PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution, an AI-driven upscaling that uses a machine learning-based technology to provide super sharp image clarity by adding an extraordinary amount of detail.
PS5 Pro provides gamers with amazing graphics at high frame rates. You can hear Mark Cerny, lead architect for PS5 Pro, discuss the key innovations from PS5 Pro in the following video presentation. This presentation provides a deep dive into the key performance features that make PS5 Pro truly special.
Other enhancements include PS5 Pro Game Boost, which can apply to more than 8,500 backward compatible PS4 games playable on PS5 Pro. This feature may stabilize or improve the performance of supported PS4 and PS5 games. Enhanced Image Quality for PS4 games is also available to improve the resolution on select PS4 games. PS5 Pro will also launch with the latest wireless technology, Wi-Fi 7, in territories supporting this standard. VRR and 8K gaming are also supported.
It’s humbling to see how game creators have embraced the latest technology from PS5 Pro, and several games will be patched with free software updates for gamers to take advantage of PS5 Pro’s features. These games can be identified with a PS5 Pro Enhanced label within their title. Some games you can look forward to include blockbuster hits from PlayStation Studios and our third-party partners, such as Alan Wake 2, Assassin’s Creed: Shadows, Demon’s Souls, Dragon’s Dogma 2, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Gran Turismo 7, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon Forbidden West, Marvel’s Spider-Man 2, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, The Crew Motorfest, The First Descendant, The Last of Us Part II Remastered, and more.
We kept the look of the PS5 Pro consistent with the overall PS5 family of products. You’ll notice the height is the same size as the original PS5, and the width is the same size as the current PS5 model to accommodate higher performance specs. Players can add an Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc Drive, or swap out console covers when they become available.
PS5 Pro fits perfectly within the PS5 family of products and is compatible with the PS5 accessories currently available, including PlayStation VR2, PlayStation Portal, DualSense Edge, Access controller, Pulse Elite and Pulse Explore. The user interface and network services will also remain the same as PS5.
The PS5 Pro console will be available this holiday at a manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) of $699.99 USD, £699.99 GBP, €799.99 EUR, and ¥119,980 JPY (includes tax). It will include a 2TB SSD, a DualSense wireless controller and a copy of Astro’s Playroom pre-installed in every PS5 Pro purchase. PS5 Pro is available as a disc-less console, with the option to purchase the currently available Disc Drive for PS5 separately.
PS5 Pro will launch on November 7, 2024 and will be available at participating retailers and directly from PlayStation at direct.playstation.com. Preorders will begin on September 26, 2024.
Our PS5 journey would not be possible without the millions of players that have supported us through the years and have shared with us their love of gaming. Whichever console option players choose, whether it’s PS5 or PS5 Pro, we wish to bring everyone the very best gaming experience that fits their needs.
*Features only available on select PS5 games that have been enhanced for PS5 Pro when compared with the PS5. PS5 Pro enhanced features will vary by game.
A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012 and taking over the hardware estimates in 2017. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel. You can contact the author on Twitter @TrunksWD.
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Absolutely not.
Stopped reading at €800.
That is an insane price. For $700 I would just build a PC. By early next year we will have new GPU generations released from Nvidia, AMD, and Intel, so you should be able to build a rig with a Geforce RTX 5060 (or AMD/Intel equivalent) for around $700 by probably March next year.
There is 0 reason to get this over a PC if it will cost $700. The PC gets basically every PlayStation game anyway, plus is upgradable and allows you to pick your controller and store front.
What the hell is Sony thinking
pc also gets xbox games
And PC has no additional costs for online play.
The reason to get it over a PC would be that it plays physical discs. But even that is a stretch because the disc drive is not included. Also, I have no idea what the hell AI upscaling will do. Will it make my games run worse somehow?
AI upscaling, when it is done right, looks nearly identical to native resolution (sometimes even better than native resolution since it acts as extra anti-aliasing) but at a much smaller hit to framerate than native resolution. You can in theory make a game look native 4K even though it is rendering at say 1440p natively, so basically you get a 4K quality image at the framerate you would see at 1440p.
However, that is only when it is done right. Nvidia's DLSS is currently the best AI upscaler by far, because they have have been evolving their tech for about 6 years now. Intel's XeSS has been out for 2 and half years now and has gained some ground on DLSS, XeSS 1.3 is about on par with DLSS 2.0 right now I think but DLSS 3.5 is like 2 tiers above that.
We'll have to see how PSSSR stacks up against DLSS and XeSS later this year when Digital Foundry and others test it. Hopefully it is at least on par with DLSS 2.0.
There will soon be alot of competition in the AI upscaler field, in addition to Nvidia's DLSS, Intel's XeSS, and Sony's PSSSR, Microsoft is working on DirectSR and AMD teased they are working on adding machine learning to their FSR. I believe Epic is also working on adding an engine level AI upscaler to Unreal Engine 5.
Very unlikely to do that for £700 but yeah it's still insanely expensive.
Just added up the pricing on PC Part Picker. Assuming that the Geforce 5060 comes in at the same $300 price tag as the 4060 did, a PC build with PS5 Pro equivalent specs on CPU, RAM, and SSD storage will run you about $700, minus the Windows license. Not sure about UK pricing but US wise at least it seems very possible. That ~$700 is based on current pricing, if you wait and watch for bargains, especially during Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales, and buy individual parts when there are good deals on them throughout the next several months, you could either get the price down to like $600 probably, or take advantage of the discounts to upgrade some parts while aiming for $700 or a bit more, upgrades such as a newer Zen 4 CPU and AM5 motherboard instead of Zen 3/AM4, and faster DDR5 RAM instead of DDR4, which could be preferable for future proofing reasons over saving some money by skimping on old gen tech.
PS5 Pro just doesn't seem to be worth it at that price imo, the CPU is the same Zen 2 part as PS5 with only a small overclock from 3.5 to 3.8 ghz, so there could be some CPU intensive games that struggle on it. You're going to run into less CPU based framerate drops in the future if you spring for a PC with a Zen 4 CPU (or Zen 5, Zen 5 budget tier CPU's aren't out yet but could be out by early next year), even if it costs you a bit more than PS5 Pro initially.
I also suspect that Nvidia's DLSS will be well above this new PSSSR AI upscaling method in terms of both image quality and performance improvement, considering Nvidia has had years to refine and improve DLSS (which is why it is well above both AMD's FSR and Intel's XeSS).
I'm so jealous of US prices lol
Link to list?
A PC for $700 is not going to get anywhere near PS5 Pro in terms of graphical quality. An NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 is going to set you back $1000 by itself.
I highly doubt PS5 Pro is anywhere close to a 4080 in terms of performance. The closest AMD card currently to the 4080 in terms of performance in the RX 7900 XTX, which is a card with 61 tflops on boost clocks. The PS5 Pro according to leaks has 30 tflops, half that many. Considering the PS5 GPU is roughly equivalent to the $300 4060 in terms of performance, I'd guess PS5 Pro will come in somewhere around the 4070 in terms of performance, though probably a bit below the 4070 in terms of raytracing performance since AMD tech doesn't handle raytracing as well as Nvidia.
While the 4070 is a $530 card currently, Nvidia's Geforce 50 series is said to be releasing later this year or early next, so probably by April at the latest the 5060 will be available to purchase. The 5060 should in theory offer 4070 tier performance for $300 when it releases, maybe $350 if Nvidia decides to be greedy. AMD and Intel also are planning to release their RX 8000 series and Intel Arc Battlemage GPU's by early next year at the latest according to leaks, so even if Nvidia does get greedy with their 5060 pricing, AMD or Intel will probably have a card with similar performance that is a bit cheaper than the 5060.
Well according to the video it is. Check the recomending specs for ratchet and clank on PC to get 4k 60fps like we saw in the video. It says you need an RTX 4080
Sorry, I'm really out of the loop with PC GPUS and CPUs. After my 2070 Super I really stopped caring about graphics improvements. If you build a PC to play Spiderman 2 at the same graphics settings, framerate, and resolution as a PS5 Pro what would that cost?
I've seen a lot of people over the years claim a PC is cheaper but it always comes with caveats like "just use a cardboard case" or some other ridiculous cost cutting measure. Anyway, if you include the price of a nice case, a good PSU, and a windows 11 license what is the cost?
I challenge you to send me a PC Pricepicker list. Thanks.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fCjzBL
I used a 4060 for the GPU, though it is not on par with the PS5 Pro, only the base PS5. However, GeForce 50 series is supposed to release early next year, and most assume the 5060 will come in at the same $300 as the 4060, so the total price should still hold. The 5060 should be about 40% faster than the 4060, and the press release says PS5 Pro offers a 45% rendering improvement over base PS5.
The CPU I used has 2 less cores/4 less threads than the one in the PS5, but it is one generation newer, Zen 3 vs Zen 2, and therefore has instructions per clock improvements over the Zen 2 part in PS5, and testing shows it performs similarly to the CPU in PS5 in most games. PS5 Pro is using the same CPU as base PS5, just with a small overlock of 0.3 ghz.
And of course those are current prices, if you look for deals on parts, especially during the Holiday season and on Black Friday and Cyber Monday, you could probably get that build from my list for $600, or upgrade to a better CPU and MOBO and DDR5 for $700 or a bit more during sales.
Thanks! Looks like "A PC is cheaper" has finally come true. I don't see any shortcuts other than skipping windows, but Linux is really good now anyway.
Really think you could build an equivalent PC for 700$? I doubt it.
Right now, no, but by the middle of next year, after the next generation of GPU's release from Nvidia, Intel, and AMD, I definitely think you could build an equivalent PC for $700 or a bit more. It would also be more well rounded most likely, as PS5 Pro has an outdated Zen 2 CPU, you will be able to build an affordable Zen 4 or Zen 5 based build by the middle of next year.
This is what happens when fanboys keep telling Sony "We're happy to pay $100 for AAA games"
They're listening and happy to charge you more for everything lol
Should be $600 with a built-in disc drive and included vertical stand. I know there's more storage and power, but my goodness.
So, it's not possible because Sony is pricing based on their competitor or it's not feasible in general?
Sony could take a loss on PS5 Pro if they wanted to (maybe they are taking a small loss already) and still make a killing from games, controllers, PS Plus, etc. The razor and blades economic model has worked well before, and still can.
No, it's not possible because that's the prices of chips right now!
This is the after effects of covid driving up prices and demand on silicone. Everyone wanted a new laptop to work from home at the same time as the AI and cloud boom.
Well guess what happens when demand outweighs supply....
That is just bad pricing by Xbox. Series X with 1 tb should have already dropped to $400 or at least $450 by now, almost 4 years into the generation, but they still charge $500 for it. To make matters worse, they are charging a whole $100 more to get the 2 TB model, even though 2 TB SSD's at retail now only cost $40 more than 1 TB models. And Microsoft is getting their SSD's wholesale, not retail, a 2 TB SSD probably only costs them $20-30 more than a 1 TB model costs them, yet they are charging consumers $100 more for the 2 TB Series X.
Microsoft and Sony both seem to no longer be ok with selling hardware at a loss, in the past they always did and then made back that loss with software, accessory, and subscription revenue, but now they both seem to want to sell hardware at a profit or at cost, never at a loss.
How amazing would it be if Nintendo sold Switch 2 at a loss to contradict Sony and Microsoft? They usually sell hardware at a loss and Nintendo usually sells it at a profit.
What if Switch 2 is $300-$350? Because if Nintendo doesn't want to sell it at a loss it's probably going to be $400-$450 with the rumored tech.
I'm hoping for $350, but it will probably be $400.
Yeahhh i'm good alright, 800€ WITHOUT a disc drive is a big no no from me, i'll just wait for ps6
At this point I expect that PS6 won't have a disc drive neither.
I predicted that both PS5 and Xbox Series were the last consoles to have disc drives. When Microsoft released Xbox One Digital in early 2019, it was obvious that they tried to see how this idea would perform. Then in 2020 there's XSS which is discless and discless version of PS5. Then in 2023 there is new revision of PS5 which has additional disc drive. In 2024 there're XSX revision without disc drive and PS5P with additional disc drive. It's just happenning. At this point I'm sure that nextgen consoles are gonna be discless or just have additional disc drives. It also depends on 3-party studios if they are gonna make physical media. But it seems that they don't care too much about physical media at the moment.
There's still a chance that Sony and Microsoft follow Nintendo and use some kind of SD cards for their next consoles. The capacity and price should be good enough in a couple of years.
But wouldn't that just mean you'd have to still install games to the SSD anyway? Cards have higher read rates than discs, but a slower read rate than SSDs.
The only way to have all future games run off a physical medium without mandatory installs is having games on SSDs. That would be really expensive, and most games would start at $80.
You never know. If the reading speed is "good enough" for Sony, they could make it happen that games run natively from the card without installing (like on Nintendo Switch). With this approach they could sell consoles cheaper, but as you mentioned games would probably cost a bit more. It's still more likely that you have to install the complete game from a card. I think Sony wants to force a full digital future, though.
$700? Nah G
800 euros DID YHEY LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS
I think the whole Concord affair already painted a picture, this simply finalises it.
3 Nintendo Switches or 1 PS5 Pro + Disc Drive... Tough call for sure.
PS5 Base + XSS
or
PS5 Pro
PS5 digital and Switch OLED
Only the streamers and video makers who get everything paid by their (poorer) viewers would buy that. And for what, in the end? Totally pointless. I hope it'll be a flop so we can finally get rid of those "pro" consoles which are a complete scam.
800 euros? For a digital only console? That is a ridiculous ask, and if I wanted the disc drive that's at least another 130 euros on top of that here in Finland. Yeah, absolute not going to happen.
Very much this. 800 € to be tied in to a digital platform that has no competition and where you can't sell your games, or pay 130 € more for a bit of freedom? And as a PC gamer, having to pay for online gaming is another added cost. I'll happily stay on PC, thank you very much. This is just terrible.
Well... I wanted to preorder it and was looking forward for it. But damn, 700$ USD, and NO CPU upgrade (I was really hoping for that at least)...
Not sure what Sony is thinking with this. I was one of thse suckers and bought the Portal (and I like/use it) but I think I will pass on the pro.
Portal is not bad, is just not for everyone, and is not pricey. But PS5 PRO with no Disk Drive or CPU upgrade for $700???
oh yah, I really like it and it works flawlessly even over the internet :)
It's a niche system they aren't to worried about moving huge amounts. The original pro was only about 20% of their sales.
For $700, they should include a golden statue, let alone a disk drive.
I'm good. I'm happy with my PS5.
Sheesh..$700 is a lot for a console. It doesn't give me hope for any
permanent price cuts the rest of generation.
I've got a video up on my YouTube going over the PS5 Pro details for anyone interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suw_9W74vn8
800 euro digital only?
Goodbye sony i stick with my ps2
How the mighty has falllen
Maybe $599.00 with a free download of GTA6
PS5 powerful you have become, at $700.00 i sense the dark side in you!
I have zero interest in this. The Pro isn't needed. There aren't enough games that are PS5 only or next gen only to warrant the purchase. And it's digital only. Screw that.
No thank you.
So sad to see both Sony and MS trying to make consoles like ipads and phones with no real price drops. And now they're wanting to push the prices even higher. I hope people don't buy this cuz it will impact the cost of the assumed next Gen Xbox hybrid console.
Yeah if they can get away with selling a $700 system you can absolutely expect Sony to keep testing just how high a price they can get away with next gen. Wouldn't be surprised to see PS6 launch models to be priced at $600 and $700. All in the name of slightly more hyper-realistic graphics than already exists.
Everyone just needs to calm down and get a second job (hopefully you guys get the reference, otherwise I'm getting down-voted into oblivion lol).
Nop... No buy from me, not at this price.
Showing it off with 3-4 year old games was wild lol
Their pitch is performance mode at quality mode levels of detail. Cute but not £700 worth of cute. I'm sure it'll be more compelling once brand new games struggling on PS5 are compared to the Pro versions but yeah, this is going to be super niche. I suspect that informed Sony's pricing strat tbh
Jim ryan out of his God damm mind!!! I'm also annoyed that mark cerny would par take in such endeavour. That guy used to have standards.. Now he's just a yes man to sony heads.
Jim Ryan has retired
This was obviously in the works for a long time.
It doesn't matter if he was overseeing it's development. a retired man can not be held responsible for the price of a newly launched product.
Mark Cerny does the tech side,
he basically works on an independent consultant basis , he has stated that he isn't a Sony employee .
1st the Portal was an unwanted joke, and now this Pro is a barely differential joke too.
Sony is doing so many dumb things.
Zero new games was shown running on the Pro, and none of the older games shown "improved" were worth getting a Pro for.
This will be a disaster.
i see my sony stock went up a couple points today, SELLING before reality of this PS5 pro hits
PS5 Pro with machine learning, dolby vision support, 2tb storage, no disc drive for $700
Or...
Series X with machine learning, dolby vision support, 2tb AND disc drive for $100 less.
hmm... decisions decisions
The next gen Xbox console or PS6 will be the optimal devices for GTA 6 without the CPU bottlenecks.
Sony is readying up it's userbase, get ready for a $1000 PS6. Facts.
dudes spitting facts. That’s why
lol $700, disc drive extra. Tbh so glad I'm not a Sony gamer.
PSVR2 - failed. Portal - failed (or at least just expensive not very useful niche peripheral). PS5 Pro...we'll see but that's a plain stupid price. Kinda feels like Sony is just wildly shooting out expensive useless things hoping that their customers are bad with money decisions.
Strong "$599 US dollars" energy. In a time when folks have less disposable income this is way too high.
The PS5Pro isn't aimed at those struggling folks , it's aimed at the 20% of the market who are hardcore gamers and are prepared to pay extra like I was when my PS4 died and I went with the Pro with it's extra game play options that still working today, but in regards to the PS5 Pro my base PS5 is going well and playing my PS5 and large PS4 library great so I feel less inclined to get a Pro anyway but no drive is a definite no sale at that price especially knowing living in Australia the price will be jacked up well above just the Australian dollar valuation.
Yeah that's a hard pass. Base PS5 is just fine.
This product wasn't needed or requested by the majority of gamers. Same goes for PS4 pro before it, not necessary at all.
At least the PS4 Pro gave me a high definition movie player.
it did, but so did Xbox one s for a fraction of the price. It's nothing more than a greedy money grab, hopefully people don't fall for it.
It was also a bit more quiet on games that didn't use the extra power which was also nice.
I'm using an inflation calculator for the USA and the PS4 Pro's price in 2016 of $399.99 would be about $524.20 in 2024. Rounded to the nearest 50-dollar increment, that's $499.99. You could make the argument that PS5 includes a 2 TB SSD and might potentially be more of a leap from its base console, but is that enough to account for about $175-$200 with inflation? Maybe, but I don't buy it. PS4 Pro seemed like a better value even with its flaws and still being a more enthusiast model.
For that price to be somewhat reasonable, they had to include native PS1,PS2 and PS3 compatibility in it, and if this means the hardware of those consoles, then yes. Machine for that much money should at least play everything released on Playstation before.
At one point, I can't remember if it was Kaz or Ken, someone said that native BC would be a pillar on Playstation consoles "forever". That they would always include it (PS1/PS2/PS3/PS4/ PS5) etc.
Of course, just a few months later and they were ripping it out of the PS3 line but, yeah lol
PC master race!
If it's already expensive with the XBox as a competitor, imagine when Microsoft abandons the XBox and launches for PC, Playstation, Cloud Computing and Nintendo.
The good side is that PC and Cloud Computing players will still be able to choose where to buy the game, since there is competition between stores, but console players...
Sorry, but those who defend PRO consoles must not value their work hours. It's better to reduce the life of the console generation and launch something with new technology, with totally new components than to launch something that runs at 4k and 30 FPS or at most 1440p 60 FPS. Disappointed! I was finally expecting hardware that could run 4K and 60 FPS or 1440p and 120 FPS.
It is a joke, for sure ;D
Don’t shoot the messenger, but Sony has a message for you:
Hello, I am Senior Playstation Brand Marketing Philosopher Agent Griftérre du Mizerhaus: Please understand our position. We are coming at this with a new philosophy from the modern book of True Men Must Demonstrate Their Value by the philosopher Kérmit Peterson Snödgras - the man who showed that even nonsense wins arguments so long as you put words like propensity, proclivity, and presupposition within it - as a demonstration of lexical superiority is more an argument winner then (chuckles) facts and superior reasoning!
But I digréssé! We have determined the best Playstation Elite Pro Executive Suite Edition is knowing you are not purchasing a game machine, but an aura superiority above your “fellow” gamers. In other words, you purchasing the vision of intelligence, strength, and high status - like an Armani suit or a Tesla. For such things, you must pay good money, otherwise all the other plebs will have access to these things and you will cease to be better than them. Do you want that? Didn’t think so!
Now you see why this price is the best price and how it will elevate you above this other scum who cries because they are envious you have something they are not good enough to afford!
Now that is marketing! I'm going to purchase two of them now. One for the house and another to mount on the hood of my Cadillac. Think I'm going to add some custom Astro Bot Controller spinners to my rims!
I'm a little tempted, because I'm a whore in that way, but I cant't justify this upgrade from the base model at that price. It is a notable difference in performance, but is the practical difference on screen really that remarkable? This would be a nice future proofing until PS6, but there will have to be ways to mitigate that price, like trading in the base model or something.
Seems like everything is 3 times the price it should be these days...
Outrageous pricing! PC gaming keeps looking better. If consoles lose their affordable aspect, they'll become irrelevant. I say this as someone that owns a ps5, xbox series x, Switch and gaming pc with a 3090 gpu in it.
alot of idiots paid more than that from scalpers for original PS5. but ye i was interested in upgrading until seen the price it wouldn't sting so much if actually had any games to play that wouldn't run on the PS4
With inflation considered we have the PS3 $599 price tag again for the premium model. Looks like we have to work a bit harder again :P
Back in the PS3 days people scraped the "L" of exhibited PlayStation consoles in the stores and called it "PayStation".
I didn't get the PS4 pro but I might actually get this. If the RT performance they claim actually manifests as an option added to a lot of games, this is precisely what I had asked for in a pro model. I'd like to see more games like control where it's just an option turn on and I know it was optimized to run on this specific piece of hardware at a stable 30fps for a realistic style game, and maybe 60 fps for simplistic games. I'm not an E-sports champion, I don't need 120-240fps lol
Who literally throught this was going to be affordable?
When the base console prices are only going up not down
Expensive. Thankfully, there are alternative price points for essentially the same product.
I see people complaining all over the internet about it. Watch it be sold out day 1 and I still wont be able to get 1. People were saying the Portal was DOA and look at how that did.
They think that with complaining they can create another concord situation. They are forgetting that PS5 has already sold 60 million units so whatever happens with the Pro it's just surplus to an already successful console
You understand the amount of money they spend on these Pro consoles right? They are made for free. It's not you that needs to justify it, it's the shareholders.
I mean, hats off to you man! Idk how you can't see $700 for a console, a mid-gen refresh, not even a new generation, isn't that much though as it still seems like yesterday consoles were consistently around the $300-$400 range and was a guarantee to get a permanent price drop after a couple of years. The whole point of consoles compared to PC gaming has always been affordability plug and play. Console continues to get closer and closer to PC gaming price range. If you're not in the US, some areas are past the $1,000 pricepoint for the PS5 Pro.
I'm concerned for the future of console gaming at this point if this is the direction it's heading.
I used to be a PC gamer. The thing is I just can't stand PC gaming compared to console and it's not really comparable to me. Plus if I went PC gaming I wouldn't go budget. I always go one below the top of the line GPU so a 4080 would be the minimum for me.
I guess to me gaming is my main hobby other than training BJJ so I don't see it as that much money for a hobby. My coworkers who are into cars are spending thousands on their hobby. It's crazy the money they are spending on their cars.
Also with MS saying recently that they aren't sure subsidizing is working I think we are going to see higher console prices. I think some people will move to PC but I think some people are going to get a reality check on the dream of PC gaming. Hackers a lone are enough to keep me away from that ecosystem. I've never seen so much blatant hacking in my life like I did in R6 on PC. My cousin tried to go PC gaming and his video card was basically done just after a year and it needed a fan blowing on it constantly to stay on. As in a $20 walmart fan he placed in front of it.
That's fair, but you also have to consider cars are an adult hobby. Gaming has always been a primarily kids/teenager hobby. How many of us remember as kids and being surprised by our parents getting us a game console for Christmas or Birthday gift? How many parents are going to go out to get a console for their kids for the holiday season or birthday, look at the price, and think it's justified?
Many parents wouldn't be able to justify that kind of a price. I remember mowing lawns for an entire Summer just to get a Game Boy because my mom couldn't afford an N64. Although I guess the other side of the coin would be this is where cloud gaming really takes off as many people will start to get priced out of consoles.
I do think these days more adults game than kids but I could be wrong. I think I remember reading that though.
I agree with you 100% on consoles being purchased less but I don't think cloud gaming is what takes off. I think we are already seeing what happens with high priced consoles. Kids just play on their phones because parents don't want to buy the console and kids don't want to beg for it. That's why when I see stats saying kids don't care about consoles I wonder if that will always be true. When these kids have their own jobsmoney are they still going to want to play on their phone?
My cousins son played on his phone all the time. Then he finally got a job and bought a PS5 soon after. When I was a kid I was only a PC gamer because it was the only thing my dad would buy since he needed a PC in the house for his job. Once I got enough money I bought my own PC with a dedicated GPU but eventually I moved back to console gaming. I think seeing what happens to console gaming in the future is going to be interesting to see. I think these kids are going to grow up and want a console or a gaming PC and things will even out.
I'm still waiting for them to add the external disc drive for the original digital console, why they never add that and it's locked to the slim version I don't know.
I'm still buying :)
Xbox 2tb digital only is for 599$ so only a hundred bucks less so in my opinion ps5pro is not that expensive.
That's exactly what I said but my comment got thumbed down 20 times! The 599$ Xbox does include a disc drive actually, but who cares it's a 4 year old console for 600$!
No way your building a PC with PS Pro specs for $700. Still pricey though.
can anybody confirm if this is true? I don’t know anything abt PC, though the added value on PC of having access to almost every Microsoft published title and lots of PS5 catalogue does certainly seem much more worth the hefty price tag. Especially if it’s only a few hundred more than PS5 Pro, which only offers the Playstation games.
It is true. You're looking at 1,000 at least.
Mostly true, but not entirely. Handheld PC gaming has really started to take off in recent years. Primarily because of the Steam Deck, but there's a lot of different options out there. Many for less than $700. Cheapest Steam Deck is $350. And you can dock these PCs to your TV, similar to a Switch but with much better performance.
neat. ty!
While not up to snuff with PS5 Pro specs, PC handhelds have great performance for less than $700. Doesn't really matter though. The fact that we're even comparing a console to a gaming PC is ludicrous enough. Consoles are always supposed to be the affordable plug and play solution. And now we're comparing prices to PCs. How far we've fallen.
For those of you gasping at cost, how much does that shine new iPhone that gets replaced every two or three years cost?
You see this all comes down to choice. Those saying they need to spend £1000 on an iPhone don’t, it’s a choice they convince themselves that they need. Hell my car insurance went up by more than the price of this. But anyway.
As for this and my situation, yes I could afford it and come up with a reason to justify it but tbh the games look just fine to me as they are. Being older 30fps and 60fps look exactly the same. The presentation while nice didn’t cover things I wanted - Bluetooth audio, changes to primary devices, PlayStation family settings and tbh I didn’t expect those. When they change I’ll most likely get a ps5p so at the minute I’ll hold off.
1) I use a $300 iPhone SE that I've had for 2 years already
2) I use my phone ALL DAY EVERY DAY... I only game about 10 hours a week
I can see the point you are making, but it is two totally different markets. The gaming market hasn't seen a massive price like this since the 3do days, and they had to dramatically drop the price to get units moving. Fast forward to 2006 when the PS3 came out, the price was a huge inhibitor to sales until they dropped prices. Today people still do not expect their game console to reach these type of costs, it simply isn't worth it to most gamers to spend this much money on a gaming machine, regardless of the few extra things it can do.
You are right but this isn't a brand new launch console for a new gen, it's just an upgrade, an expensive lavish luxury item vs an entry into the next gen. For most gamers, the PS5 will still be available and supported and might for all we know get a cost reduction because of this (they wouldn't over shadow this launch by announcing that) and games will presumably me made to work on both. Jump from PS2 to PS3 is quite a different situation.
Don't get me wrong, the price here is stupid but there are lots of different factors. It's a shame costs for consoles this gen have seemingly stalled in general, parts i think being a key reason. Series X, PS5 and even the Switch have barely come down in price since their launches.
I'm complaining, and I don't have a very expensive phone, and probably never will. My phone cost more than I would've liked or think it's worth, but the alternatives sucked too. And no, this isn't the first time I've complained about phone prices either.
Yes it’s your choice whether you buy this thing or not, but this is a bad comparison. For one a smartphone (let’s not single out iPhones because the high-end €$1000 smartphone market is bigger than it) is a completely different type of device in a completely different market and for most people is an integral, even essential part of their day to day function. And with that I don’t mean people’s social media addiction. Second it can do like a billion more things than a mere video game console. Third they are built much more delicately yet more durable with much more expensive materials and more sophisticated proprietary technologies. And finally for me personally, I use my smartphone for a long longer than 2 years anyways. Also, what the h*ll is your car insurance. :-P
Another L to add to Sony's collection. Facts.
