Xbox Bringing 4 Games to PS5 and Switch - News
by William D'Angelo , posted on 15 February 2024 / 6,125 Views
Following rumors that Xbox will be releasing some of its games to other platforms like the PlayStation 5 and Nintendo Switch, the company has released its Xbox Business update.
Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer announced they will be releasing four Xbox console exclusives to other platforms. This includes two community-driven games and two smaller titles. The developers will announce what these games are in the near future.
Spencer stated Starfield and Indiana Jones and the Great Circle are not part of the four games.
Sources have told The Verge and VideoGamesChronicle the four titles are Pentiment, Hi-Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves, and Grounded.
Spencer an interview with The Verge was asked about the rumors of Starfield and Indiana Jones and the Great Circle coming to PS5 and he said, "I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience.
"But I don’t want to create a false expectation on those other platforms that this is somehow the first four to get over the dam and then the dam’s going to open and that everything else is coming, that’s not the plan today. I also don’t want to mislead customers on those other platforms. We’re launching these four games, and we’re excited about it. We’re excited about the announce and everything else, but we’ll see what happens for our business."
A post on Xbox Wire reads, "To ensure long-term success for both Xbox and the industry as a whole, we must continue to evolve. Today we announced that we will expand the communities we reach: we are currently in the process of bringing four Xbox games to other platforms.
"These are titles which have been available to Xbox players for at least a year, including hidden gems that deserve to be experienced more widely, and live service games whose communities will benefit from welcoming even more players. We will share more details on these titles soon.
"By bringing these games to more players, we not only expand the reach and impact of those titles, but this will allow us to invest in either future versions of these games, or elsewhere in our first-party portfolio. There is no fundamental change to our approach on exclusivity."
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if i was a microsoft shareholder id be happy!
if i was a playstation shareholder i would be happy too
I still don't know if losing exclusive games is that positive for a console...
Correct I should have thought about that. Especially with PlayStation holding Sony afloat
"Especially with PlayStation holding Sony afloat"
Really?
Eh, "Especially with PlayStation holding Sony afloat" is still the wrong verbiage. Game & Network Services brings in the MOST, sure, but Entertainment Technology & Services and Financial Services are still very important sectors within the company.
I think the past 5 to 10 years most divisions have been profitable, a clear turn from the mid to end PS3 time.
This obviously makes bottom line financial sense, and it sounds like MS will port to other platforms in a similar fashion to Sony porting to Steam: a few hand-picked titles, all well after the initial launch, with some exceptions (e.g. live service games that live and die based on their userbases).
BUT, it makes Xbox hardware even more irrelevant. If there are no guaranteed console exclusives ('I don't think we should ever rule out'), and no real hard exclusives any more (because of Steam releases), and also no hard red lines for what won't be ported (to encourage people to buy into your platform confident that certain games they want will never be ported), what incentive is there for anyone who isn't already in the Xbox ecosystem to ever buy one? Price alone, probably, which isn't a huge selling point on its own, and doubly so if your main priority is the bottom line, because the price is unlikely to be aggressively competitive anyway. Xbox hardware will wither away.
I'd argue what's really making console hardware irrelevant is the PC. Almost everything comes to PC., after all. I think it's inevitable that Sony will bring their full slate of exclusives to PC. So if you want to play everything, you get a PC, right?
So I don't think it's just Xbox hardware being more irrelevant, its consoles in general being more irrelevant.
They'll still sell Xboxes to those what want a streamlined interface and cheaper hardware than a PC, but who also want Game Pass. They'll also sell Xboxes to those with huge back catalogues of Xbox games, or heavily invested in any series that isn't coming to Sony or Nintendo.
But most everyone else can and should just get a PC, it seems to me. So Xbox will be around for a long time, but it will gradually become more niche as time goes on. But the same will be true for PS, IMO. If you can get God of War, Forza, Spider-Man, Gears, Horizon, etc., all in the same space, that's a pretty compelling offering TBH.
The outlier is Game Pass. If Game Pass does really take off (100+ million subscribers), then that could create a reason for people to get an Xbox, simply because they're cheaper than PCs. Or if Microsoft does something interesting/unique with the Xbox form factor (such as the handheld rumours).
Yes... that is why PS is struggling really hard to sell this gen...
the gates are open... any xbox game is open for consideration now...
Very true
Basically this is an admission that GP has pretty much reached its limit on Xbox/pc and for there to be growth (along the lines of what they were expecting), they are having to look at other avenues. It all comes down to $.
Considering the 34M of GP with PC, TV, Smartphone, Xbox and Gold being made into GP Core (in a way the total of GP+Gold was higher than 34M 2 years ago) them yes I think they hit a ceiling and now growth will be very slow.
Article should probably be edited to state that Starfield and Indiana Jones are not amongst these first 4 games but Spencer didn't rule out those titles in the future in the interview with Tom Warren from the Verge.
From The Verge (https://www.theverge.com/24073666/microsoft-gaming-phil-spencer-interview-ps5-switch-games)
"You mentioned that Starfield and Indiana Jones aren't part of the four despite rumors, but will those ever come to PS5? Can you rule that out?
I don't think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We're focused on these four games and learning from the experience.
But I don't want to create a false expectation on those other platforms that this is somehow the first four to get over the dam and then the dam's going to open and that everything else is coming, that's not the plan today. I also don't want to mislead customers on those other platforms. We're launching these four games, and we're excited about it. We're excited about the announce and everything else, but we'll see what happens for our business"
So yeah, it's confirmed. They are just playing damage control.
This is a hilarious amount of reaching.
We are all xbox now
if you have a pc you are xbox.
Or if you used Minecraft and decided to login. That is how they reached that 130+ MAU.
I disagree.
I believe it was said that all 4 games have been out on xbox for over a year.
Starfield has been out for around 5 months.
Indiana jones isn't even out yet.
I think "damage control" and "confirmed" goes too far. But I also think it is impossible to predict the future.
You have a fair point, perhaps you are right. That Said, i still think Xbox is trying to "control the wildfire" and have plans for more games on PS5.
Yes their lack of certainty is interesting. If they say no games but later decide it is better to do more games that will cause more backlash than just "there may be games".
Plus there is a real possibility they really don't know. Kinda feels like a no win situation.
I don't think that classifies as "confirmed".
Besides, the rumors and evidence regarding those games were much weaker than say Hi-Fi Rush, which was reported by a lot of outlets and further supported by a datamine. It makes no sense for Xbox to burn that bridge and claim they are definitely never coming to other systems in the future.
They, very clearly, confirmed that it is NOT coming. I mean, you people need to stop it. The dude says with WORDS that it is not coming, and you find a way to spin whatever vague thing that has nothing to do with those games he says after as "confirmation" that the games are coming.
And the "reporting" from a "lot" of outlets ALL came from the same source and basically just repeated whatever they heard or made up some shit up (like they "knew" Indiana Jones was going to Play Station...) ...
Not burning the bridge is one thing, but they def. have no plan to bring those two games on the Play Station at this point. End of the story. Anything else is just speculation from people who believe that IF this happens, and IF that happens, and IF that too happens, and IF blah blah, yes, MAYBE there is a chance... At this rate, the same can be said for Play Station and Nintendo... This is the same thing when they clearly said that Starfield would be exclusive and people continued to come up with all sort of things speculating that it was not clear… just freaking get over it.
At this point, this is getting ridiculous. Basically, anyone can just state whatever the fuck they want... Cause even if we got confirmation from one source, they come up "yah but you never know, they can change their mind if X or Y or Z happens"... No shit... lol
I'm very confused by your first paragraph. I told the other person I wouldn't classify that as confirmed, and you're saying I'm spinning it to mean it is confirmed?
Second paragraph. I specified that I'm talking about Hi-Fi Rush. Which did not all come from the same source, was backed up by a datamine, which got corroborated/confirmed by others such as Tom Warren. I'm saying that rumor held a lot more weight than say Indiana Jones, so I'm not sure why you're grouping them together? For the record, I've stated these things days ago on this forum, and what Phil said in the podcast was exactly as I said in those posts. That they should present a few games. While shooting down some of the untrue rumors that they had no plans for, like Starfield. That's what I said they should do.
Third paragraph. With 'not burning bridges' I'm explaining to the other person why they didn't outright say "they are never coming". No one should have expected them to say that even if they don't have any plans for it currently. It's basic PR and business sense. So for him to seemingly take that as a sign meaning it's confirmed that they do have plans for those games, I tried to explain why that's the wrong way to look at it.
Seems like you missunderstood my whole post tbh, to the point where I thought you responded to the wrong person at first, until I read the quotes.
Yes I believe I misunderstood you :) With some coffee now it makes more sense to me :D For some reason I have interpreted it the other way around…
I think it means they'll use this first batch of games as a test case. If they sell well... I would fully expect the other games to port over as well. As Xbox sales slow further, they'll need the revenue.
Fair enough. But i still hold what i said as perfectly possible and likely outcome.
Yeah, it's confirmed, we will all see, Starfield will come to PS in 10 years or earlier! You heard it here first!
Updated the article saying Starfield and Indiana Jones are not part of the 4 games. I misheard him what he said on the first listen of the podcast.
How are they misleading anyone? Just because they didn't say, yes or no, doesn't mean anyone is mislead. They are being open about leaving the possibility of it happening some day, but not currently in the works. That is the opposite of being mislead lol.
Same way they told people that not every first party would simultaneously launch on PC back in 2016.
"We'll get to the point where that's the intent for every title," said back in March 2016.
Then E3 2016 had MS announcing Xbox Play Anywhere for PC and Xbox.
There are some 1st party games like Age of Empires and Ara not releasing simultaneously on PC and Xbox so was never misleading. Anyways, you get a cookie for trying at least.
They said the opposite. It is people like you who ‘heard’ or interpreted it differently. That’s on you… not them. They clearly said that the goal was to have all games releasing at the same time.
Even worse they say clearly no. But this is also not enough. And funny enough it is all the people on the Play Station side that find this ‘No it is coming to Play Station’ vague enough to make them believe that it is not clear….
Go figure
He clearly said no to them being one of the 4 titles coming to PS. lol this is exactly what I was talking about.
Read the comment by imaginedvl below. Kindofunnygames even reported that MS said Starfield and indiana Jones will not be multiplatform. VGchartz also made that mistake. Do you think this all happened by coincidence? Or do you think maybe the biggest company in history created a carefully crafted podcast, question that they knew had a very high likely hood of people misunderstanding what they were saying?
I'm taking in ALL the information said, not just one source. I don't care how certain individuals want to interpret what was said. If someone doesn't understand after everything was said, then that's on them. They say these 4 games for now, and possibly more games later. Right now, no plans for Starfield and Indiana Jones, but doesn't rule it out completely.
I want to play elders scrolls 6 on my ps6, this is good news.
You won't be playing ES6 on PS.
That won't happen
You can't... util you can.
Yep. You can never be certain about the future. Specially that far in the future.
Actually it isn't. Except you want to play it on your PS7 5 years after Xbox-players. They release older games.
Lets hope the PS6 can emulate for you.
4 games im guessing will cross
Live Service
Sea Of Thieves
Grounded
Hidden Gems
Hi Fi Rush
Penitment
However Redfall or Flight Sim could also be chances
Not really followed what progress, if any, they’ve made on Redfall since it launched.
If its no better than it was at launch, they may well decide its not worth it.
Its more about not throwing away an investment. It could protentially sell alot more copies on PS to recoup the budget used to make it. I think its smarter to push Redfall out of the 4 games.
If it can be salvaged. Like for example Diablo 3's launch to where it ended up. But not every game can achieve that in a reasonable budget. Same concept when a game in development gets cancelled, and you cut your losses.
Little expense to port a game from hardware to hardware there days. Redfall was suppose to be a live service. They would easily make more money than loss if they didnt port it. Guess it comes down to if its actually worth it.
Redfall is still being supported so it would be insane not to release it on other platforms.
No Man Sky is a perfect example of this. Flopped at launch, was fixed and later released on multiple platforms.
I wasn't referring to the porting, but the fixing of the game. Not sure they'd want to port it in its current state?
Flopped at launch? It sold 1.17 million copies on PS4 launch week and 850k on steam in 2016. It sold very well at launch.
Sold well at launch due to mismarketing. Would have been alot of requested refunds shortly after.
Same for DriveClub on PS4. It went on to sell 2m copies. Launch sales aren't a good indicated on a game's success.
Sometimes games score lucky because it might be the only option like Knack, which also sold 2m.
Driveclub sold 4.76 million as per the Sony leak. NMS was a success from week one, on one platform. Critically, and content wise you can argue differently, but the sales show a small indie team making a massive new IP that sold millions.
It was only a success in marketing and overhyping sales at launch. NMS went through hell after that with a plethora of refunds and was critically hurt, media wise and socisl wise.
Hello Games hurt their brand with it.
NMS has turned it around over the years but at launch, it was as bad as any. Those that brought it like me, were suckers by the marketing.
The dev cost for the original release is a sunk cost.
It would be considered a new investment of the cost to port to PS, which in those terms probably would make it more appealing.
Porting a game over with these modern systems would cost peanuts, only expense is paying Sony license fees.
Flight Sim - so PS5 users can also download 1TB to once fly over their house :-P
Redfall on PS5 would make sense if they thought they could sell copies. I think however they want to focus on games that are in heavy demand to be ported.
Considering consoles are sold at a loss (I think), it only makes sense some want to cut out that middle man.
Fingers crossed for Rare Replay
Board be like "We just purchased 2 publishers for 80 billion and you want to remove their games from where we sell them? We want our money back."
I want to know what games.
Yes the gates are finally open,
Starfield or any other major games might have a chance as years pass by to release on other consoles
Microsoft has always been software at heart. MicroSOFT...
So it’s got to be sea of thieves which is a guarantee but can’t think of the other live game n the small games are definitely HI FI rush n 🤔
Those are believe to Be Sea of Thieves, Pentiment, Hi-Fi rush and Grounded. Thought I can't shake the idea that, after properly fixing Redfall, it might be a good idea to use such opportunity with it to give it a second chance.
Sea of Thieves, Hi Fi Rush, Grounded, and Pentiment are the 4 most likely titles.
The floodgates will open, we all knew the melodrama would continue. More questions and answers.
I will read and watch nothing from this article. I just look forward to playing Halo on PS5 and Switch soon.
Exactly what I said. Small games first using the boiling frog strategy, and maybe bigger games later.
Failure of Phil Spencer and Matt Booty is why these games are coming to other consoles much sooner then they wanted, if at all.
Failure in what way?
