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Major PS5 System Update Out Tomorrow

Major PS5 System Update Out Tomorrow - News

by Craig Snow , posted on 14 September 2021 / 1,722 Views

The next major firmware update for the PlayStation 5 will roll out globally tomorrow.

It boasts a number of enhancements, including UX improvements, a Trophy tracker, 3D audio support for built-in TV speakers, support for PS Remote Play, M.2 SSD storage expansion (allowing PS5 players to store and play PS5 games, PS4 games, and media apps directly from the expanded high-speed storage), and the ability to view Share Screen broadcasts on the PS App (starting 23rd September).

There are a whole host of other minor changes as well - you can check out the complete list here.


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42 Comments
victor83fernandes (on 14 September 2021)

This is the best news I just ordered 2 days ago a 1tb with read speed of 7000mb. So I might just get the update before the drive even arrives in the post.

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Dante9 (on 15 September 2021)

I just don't get the need to store massive amounts of games. Are people playing like 10 different games at once?

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Runa216 Dante9 (on 15 September 2021)

I have an almost entirely digital library, I just bought an 8TB external and am keeping all my PS4 games (and the Ps5 games I'm not currently playing) on there. It makes it easy if I have guests and don't wanna download or if the internet goes out.

Generally speaking I'm only ever playing 2-3 games at any given time, but having the option there is nice.

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I get your point, I do the same, but having more internal fast ssd is like having more breathing room. More storage is always good. If people spend over 500 dollars on a console and 70dollars per game and 60 dollars for online (which is 420dollars in 7 years) totalling almost 1000 dollars even before any games, why not pay another 160-180dollars to have more than double the internal storage? Sounds to me like a good investment.
Then again, its optional, which is great, consumers should have options.

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10 games? If you include DLC you barely can fit 10 games on a ps5. I'm used to have 80-100 games installed on my xbox one X and then just choose what to play without the need to re download stuff.
On ps5, due to fast ssd games perform better on internal which is about 600gb. Games are around 50-100gb on ps5. Installing and updating a game might take 30min to hours, I don't want to wait that long when I decide to play something else. I have a 4tb external but even then it takes quite a bit of time to transfer the game.
I added a 1tb NVME and its great it was only 120pounds (166dollars), not really much when you consider the price of the console.
Lets put it this way, everyone would always prefer more internal fast storage, there's no reason to not want it. I see it as an investment for the next 7 years.

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victor83fernandes (4 days ago)

Heads up guys, the SSD standoff screw is the worst screw in the history of electronics, just be very careful when removing, it will strip the top very easily, might as well just buy a better screw so you don't get your drive stuck in there forever. The rest was easy, just put the ssd in between the heatsink with the thermal pads, I put 3 thermal pads in there.

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eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

I'm still wondering what happens to people like me that dont want a super fast ssd to play games off of. But just a slow mass storage to swap games from.

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Juanita eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

I think u can connect a slower external ssd with your PS5.

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eva01beserk Juanita (on 14 September 2021)

The point is that I dont want to do that. Plus the speed of transfer is super slow. Like if sony was limiting the tranfer rate.

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DonFerrari eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

So I have no idea what you are asking about. You already can have those installs on the external HDD and transfer to the SSD, or for PS4 games you don`t even need to do it. And how can you want a slow drive but fast transfer?

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eva01beserk DonFerrari (on 14 September 2021)

What I dont want is an external drive. And havent you seen tranfer file speed videos? Even using a 7gb/s ssd the ps5 transfered files slower than the xboxs 2.5gb/s. It was like below 400mb/s. But that was only when writing to the internal drive. To the external it was super fast. This is the issue in refering to.

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DonFerrari eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

If your external drive is limited to 400 mb/s there is no way for the transfer to be faster. But I haven't seem the videos yet. What I saw from DF was that a compatible SSD would run the game almost equal to the internal SSD and well there isn't any point in transfering between the embue and the internal SSD since both would be able to boot the game just the same.
What you want is something Sony doesn't want to do, to make the internal expansion something it isn't supposed to be and them have people complaining it isn't fast enough, don't allow to boot the game, etc.

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eva01beserk DonFerrari (on 14 September 2021)

I get that. But the price for one of those is a bit to much for me. I would rather have a non bootable drive if I can double the capacity for the same price. Maybe you should go back to the DF video. The speed of the external drive was almost the same as an fast internal when writing to the internal. Don't get me wrong 400mb/s is fast enough but they did not even let you put something that did not meat the requirements. All I really want is for them to acknolege the requieremetns are not met and just let me use the drive as mass storage that I could move games in amd out off.

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victor83fernandes eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

That would be problematic, if the software is built so you play your ps5 games from the internal expansion, if requirements are not met, games could have issues, they would need to completely change the software to recognize a speed threshold and disable play from internal. You know the point of consoles is to be simple, a lot of users would just complain too, so they give you the requirements, you either follow it, or just wait for some sales on nvme. I bought a 1tb with 7000mb read speed and it cost only 120 british pounds, the price of 2 games. And you can use cheaper drives, its been tested. You can buy a drive for 100 dollars.

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victor83fernandes eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

You are confused, the speed of the ps5 ssd has nothing to do with the transfer speed to other drive, it will be the speed of the slower drive, always, if you have an external USB with 100mb/s write, then that's going to be the speed you get. You cant magically increase the speed.
And how do you intend to install another type of internal drive? This is not a PC its a console, you get nvme slot and that's it. What you want doesn't even make sense, because ps5 games are designed for the very fast SSD, you would have issues in games by using a much much slower drive.

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Runa216 eva01beserk (on 15 September 2021)

Oh no! It takes 10 minutes to transfer a 75 gig game instead of 5! WHATEVER SHALL YOU DO?!

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eva01beserk Runa216 (on 15 September 2021)

Finally somebody that gets it

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victor83fernandes eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

What are you one about? I have a USB 3 external on my ps5 and transfer speeds are normal compared to my PC, do you even realize that games are around 50gb or bigger? Try transferring that on your laptop to see how long it takes.

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Imaginedvl eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

Pretty sure you can do that already. You can plug an external SSD (USB 3.0) and then move stuff from your internal HDD to it and vice-et-versa. You cannot play games from it tho, but this is what you want looks like

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eva01beserk Imaginedvl (on 14 September 2021)

I know. I just dont want to have an external drive. Pluss it's kind of slow.

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victor83fernandes eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

So, you want the goods, but you are not willing to pay the price, now I understand you. That's a strange complaint, that's like saying I want to buy that brand new game but I don't want it to be 70 dollars. That's like you want to buy a 500 000 dollars house but you want to pay 100 000 for it.
Consoles and videogames are not a necessity in life, you do not need them to live, if you cant afford it, you can always buy a cheap second hand ps4.

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Hiku victor83fernandes (on 15 September 2021)

I think he's saying he wants a slow internal drive. Although I was confused when only reading the first comment.

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eva01beserk Hiku (on 15 September 2021)

Exactly. Or more like leting me use the exapansion in the same way an external hdd. Cant play of of it but can store games in it.

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Imaginedvl eva01beserk (on 15 September 2021)

Well I get your point, slow internal (still faster than USB) even if you could not play. Well, maybe they will do that in the future, I honestly do not think it is really something a lot of people want thjo :)

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But what's the point? A slower NVME is still almost the same price, I bought my PC NVME in January for 120pounds, its 3500 read speed, I bought my ps5 nvme a few days ago, it was 120pounds, its 7000read speed. So why not just get the fast one? To save 20-30
dollars?
And then again you can still play from internal on slower ssd, even if they don't match the requirements, its been tested and works.

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This is what I don't get, people get a ps5 to have a faster more powerful console, and then complain that they prefer it to be slower? Makes no sense whatsoever. We should always want better and better from new generations.
That's like having a game that needs 8gb ram but they want to install 4gb of ram on the PC, just to save 20-30 dollars. Why not just buy what's best? Surely money cant be an issue if he could afford a ps5 and 70 dollar in the first place.

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victor83fernandes eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

You have no option, no one does, all PS5 games are played rom a super fast ssd either way.
Slow mass storage to swap games from has been available way before I bought my ps5, I got all my games on a 4terabyte drive. I don't understand your question. Do you want a slow storage on internal? The ps5 has a nvme slot, you cant fit an HDD in there. Or do you mean you want a slower nvme? Which by definition is fast, all nvme are super fast, there's no slow ones. In that case it still works its been tested, but prices are so close so just get a faster one. The one on my PC cost me only 20dollars less and its 3500mb read speed, the one I bought for my ps5 is 7000mb read speed. If you have a ps5, surely 20 dollars is no big deal, or else you going to have an issue with 70dollars games.

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eva01beserk (on 14 September 2021)

Ok let me get this clear.

  1. I know external storage is a thing but I dont want to use external storage.
  2. I know the requirements are meant for games to play smoothly. I dont want sony to lower the requirements.
  3. My intent is not to play games from the expansion slot. Is to use it solely for storage. Im completely fine transferring a game every time I need to play it.
  4. what I wanted was just to install a slower drive that are cheaper, like gen 3 and just have sony not allow games to be played from it. Just as storage. I repeat, I do not intend to play games from it so the specs of it should not matter.
  5. Edit: Im also in no rush or hurting for space. If sony wont allow this I have no issue waiting untill prices go down later on. Im aiming for a 2tb drive and I dont intend to spend almost the cost of a ps5 to get one. Right now some slower gen 3 drives are below $200.
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DonFerrari eva01beserk (on 15 September 2021)

You are basically asking them to change the core of the project really. And yes no one truly even needs an expansion, much less a 3Tb one. That is just a comfort option to keep several games installed at once (that well most people dont need, the average purchase is 10-12 games per console, and most people wont play 10 games in rotation all the time), still having to wait to transfer data from drives but save time on the need to download. I would say in your case that dont want external drive and also dont want to wait for downloads but is ok with time transferring data, buying physical and reinstalling would be a middle ground.

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eva01beserk DonFerrari (on 15 September 2021)

Your right I also never play more than a 2 to 3 games at at time. Wich why this is not really an issue for me. Just a confort thing. Its more for like games that I save that might get a future expansion or something. Or some games that I would love to play the story like once a year like I do with bioshock. Not really demanding or waiting for sony to do much about this.

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DonFerrari eva01beserk (on 15 September 2021)

If Sony had made the slot allowing other than NVME drives maybe it could happen, but seeing what they made I think it won`t happen.

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Exactly, prices are dropping and drives are getting faster and faster, by the time most people manage to get a ps5 the minimum speeds will the over the requirements that there wont be any point in changing the software just to allow older drives. Even now, the slower drives still work on it even tough they don't match the requirements.

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Reinstalling is the worst option on game that have huge update downloads, which are most these days. An external is the best option for storage as you keep all the updates and DLC. Install times are basically the same or longer than the transfer back to internal anyway.

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average is that because some people only play Fifa or call of duty the whole generation.
Gamers like me play everything, I average 200 games per console, and in the end I keep around 100, the ones I want to replay in the future. I already have over 50 games on ps5, including the best ones from ps4, and its not even been out 10 months yet. I'm close to 100 games on switch and there's still at least a couple years left.
Those who only play fifa or call of duty will most likely never bother with extra storage. The storage options are for gamers like me, not gamers like them. Options are good, example I dont play online, ever, but I dont go around complaining that there exists online features that I do not need and a paid online which I am not forced to purchase.

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Of course is average. I keep all my games, and also are averaging over 100 physical per gen. But we are the minority.
My point is considering the average market not the very minority.

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The average market will not look into upgrading internal drives.

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Yep, much less would be in a wish to understand that an expansion they bought doesn't work as expected if Sony would allow subpar SSD to be used but only for cold storage.

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Why not pay just 20dollars more and have the ability to also play from it? 2tb expansion is still not enough to keep your games, as the generation moves along you will need minimum 4tb.
I get your point, but you will have to have an external either way as its way more cost effective, a 8tb external is still way cheaper than a 2tb gen3 nvme.

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You already said that like 4 times. And to my knoledge the cheapest ps5 compatible drive is the wd black coming in at $180 for 1tb. For that price I can buy right now a 2tb gen 3 drive thats a third the speed.

What drives are you compering?

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That's not the cheapest at all, many cheaper ones still work, even tough they don't meet requirements, yes I said it 4x and I will say as many times necessary for you to understand. Sony requirements is just to be on the safe side, check on google the tests done on older drives, gen3 drives will work on it.
A third of the speed? That means you will have issues playing games designed for fast read speeds.
Like I said already 4x, prices are always dropping, my drive is actually the WD black, cost 166dollars, wait for a sale.
What drive specifically do you want, have you tested it to make sure it doesn't work on it?

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Then you said it 4x and still havent read a single of my post cuz I also said like 4x that I have zero intention of playing from the expansion. I want it just for storage.

And I have looked at test online and the ps5 dosent even turn on when you put a gen 3 ssd in it.

And now you are telling me to ignore sonys specification and just put something that could fail in the future. Because that now that the gen just started and games may not use the full speed dosent mean in the future such demanding games dont come.

And yes like i said before and you ignore. I have no problem wating for a drive that meets my budget.

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You are wrong yet again, some gen3 drives work, look into youtube there's been tests done.
I never said to ignore sony specifications, I was the one who told you just just not be cheap and get a proper fast drive, you are the one who wants a slow drive instead.
If you really want a slow ssd just get an enclosure and use it as external. Its so simple.

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