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Sony Suggests PS5 Might Get Mid-Gen Upgrade Similar to PS4 Pro

Sony Suggests PS5 Might Get Mid-Gen Upgrade Similar to PS4 Pro - News

by William D'Angelo , posted on 02 July 2020 / 3,970 Views

Sony and Microsoft released upgraded versions of their PlayStation 4 and Xbox One in 2016 and 2017, respectively. The improved hardware was designed to extend the lifespan of the current generation and catch up to the technology seen in PCs. The PS4 and Xbox One at launch quickly fell behind the pace of the advances in technology.

Executive Vice President of Hardware Engineering and Operation at Sony Interactive Entertainment Masayasu Ito speaking with GameInformer in an interview said that the life cycles for console sare getting shorter as technology continues to advance. The PlayStation 4 Pro was a "test case," according to Ito, hinting that the PlayStation 5 might get a similar mid-generation upgrade.

"Indeed, in the past, the cycle for a new platform was 7 to 10 years, but in view of the very rapid development and evolution of technology, it’s really a six to seven year platform cycle," said Ito.

"Then we cannot fully catch up with the rapid development of the technology, therefore our thinking is that as far as a platform is concerned for the PS5, it’s a cycle of maybe six to seven years. But doing that, a platform lifecycle, we should be able to change the hardware itself and try to incorporate advancements in technology.

"That was the thinking behind it, and the test case of that thinking was the PS4 Pro that launched in the midway of the PS4 launch cycle."

Thanks GamingBolt.


A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel dedicated to gaming Let's Plays and tutorials. You can contact the author at wdangelo@vgchartz.com or on Twitter @TrunksWD.


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30 Comments

MIXSTER37 (on 06 December 2019)

I'll still pre-order the PS5 regardless because I take advantage of trade promotions and did so with my PS4 PRO that I only paid $125CAD at launch and if I paid cash it would have been $565CAD. People need to learn what trade promotions that businesses are running because they don't always tell you all of them. EB Games Canada has been running the same trade promotion since the launch of the PS4 of trade in 3 games of a minimum trade value of $10 and get $79.99 towards any new release title within 2 weeks of launch. I've gotten at least 300 pre-ordered PS4 games that would have cost over $23,000CAD and have only paid just over $3500CAD based on what I paid for the games that it took to trade in for those promotions.


think-man (on 05 December 2019)

Hopefully if they're already planning it, the PS5 pro will see a power increase on the scale of of how Xbox did it. Ps4 to ps4 pro was pretty lackluster.


Shadow1980 (on 05 December 2019)

If they do, I think it will be contingent on if 8K TVs start to get adopted in significant quantities within the next 2-3 years. Higher-end models for the PS4 & XBO made sense because of the adoption of 4K TVs, which were fairly affordable by time the Pro and One X were released (I bought mine in the summer of 2017 for something like $700-800). But 8K TVs are still very new and very expensive, and may only offer a real benefit for very large sets as returns on higher resolutions start to diminish. If the base PS5 can consistently nail 4K+60fps just fine, then there's no real reason for a mid-gen upgrade unless 8K becomes more commonplace. It's all a matter of tangible visual improvement.


KBG29 (on 06 December 2019)

I don't think that is the case. With every aspect of the pipeline being refined around scalability, having yearly updates becomes a viable model. They can increase the performance across all aspects by say 10 - 15% per year. Better load times, larger Storage, improved ray tracing, new USB/HDMI/Bluetooth/Wifi/Cellular standards.

New consumers coming into the platform will get a device with current tech, and the hardcore gamers can update as they see fit. Some would upgrade yearly, others would wait for something significant like 4K - 8K.

This will give Sony a chance to both increase the profit on Hardware by selling to some consumers as often as once a year, and also help expand the userbase/engagement numbers as people either end up with a 2nd system, trade it in, or gift there previous unit.

Major leaps would still occur every 6 - 7 years as they leap to completely new CPU/GPU generations. I believe that is the map forward. Yearly updates moving to Zen3/RDNA2, Zen4/RDNA3, Zen5/RDNA4, and then a new generation with the successors of Zen/RDNA.


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SuperNintend0rk (on 05 December 2019)

I'm not opposed to this idea in principle but it does make me feel even more hesitant to buy a PS5 at launch...


StriderKiwi (on 05 December 2019)

As someone who wasnt planning on day one adopting any next gen systems, this 100% validates me.


Bandorr (on 06 December 2019)

So by day one.. you mean years down the line? Midway into a 6 or 7 year time line is 3+ years.


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StriderKiwi (on 06 December 2019)

Why would I spend $400,maybe more, on a product that could be obsolete or outdated in a year or two's time? I'm not falling for the buy the same system with slight changes scam again.


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Bandorr (on 06 December 2019)

So you think a mid gen replacement would come.. one year into a "it’s a cycle of maybe six to seven years."?
But that also puts you into a trap. If a mid gen comes in 3 years.. that means the PS6 would come in 3 years as well.
Meaning you'd be in the exact situation where you'd be be either buying an "outdated" in 3 years system.. or again waiting 3 years.


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StriderKiwi (on 06 December 2019)

If i buy a console for a gen, i can only afford 1. So based on your said, if i decide to buy one,- it would over halfway through the console cycle when the price has fallen.

But as you said, it's a trap. So I may not be getting any version of the console. Do you see why I'm not exactly pleased by this announcement yet?


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Bandorr (on 06 December 2019)

Are you even reading the posts. Not just mine, but yours also.
"Completely validated" has changed to "im not exactly pleased"
You are talking about " obsolete or outdated in a year or two's time" in context of a mid gen system that would be closer to 3 years.
You sound like you are just afraid of Technology. You buy something new. In 3 years it will be outdated by something better. That applies to everything. So your answer is to.. not buy anything?


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KBG29 (on 06 December 2019)

This sounds more like the flood gates for yearly updates have been opened than a simple mid gen refresh.

It makes absolute sense with the current state of the CPU/GPU market and development tools. Everything is being built around scalability. Platform holders can take advantage of evolving technologies to earn more profits on hardware, and core gamers get the oppertunity to buy into new technology at their own pace.

This is what I have been waiting for for almost two decades. It has been the plan since PS3 went into development, but things did not pan out with Cell. Now the tech and dev tools are ready, and we can finally have more choices in the console space. Great news!


siebensus4 (on 06 December 2019)

The problem is that multiports are good to compare. Then you can see how strong or weak a console is (or how lazy the developer). It's not such a big thing with console exclusives, which are usually very optimized for the system. If we only would have console exclusives a mid-gen upgrade would not be that necessary.


shikamaru317 (on 05 December 2019)

I for one am shocked by this news. (Just kidding)


Tridrakious (on 05 December 2019)

Terrible. Timing. With. This. Statement.


GaoGaiGarV (on 06 December 2019)

No. It. Is. Not.


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Bandorr (on 06 December 2019)

How? Do you think the people wanting to get a PS5 are suddenly just going to decide to wait 3+ years to get one?
If a cycle is 6 years. And you are willing to wait 3 for a PS5 Pro.. why not another 3 for a PS6?


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chakkra (on 06 December 2019)

@Bandorr, Ask that question to the millions of people who are STILL buying PS4s in its sixth year, or the millions of people who are gonna buy a Switch next year instead of waiting a couple of years more for the Switch 2.


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Bandorr (on 06 December 2019)

Chakkra.. you seem confused. I get the people still buying a PS4 in its six year.
I was specifically about a specific group. I'm talking about the people wanting to get a PS5 suddenly not getting a P55 because a "new" PS5 will come out in years.
You need to re-read the posts and consider the context of the replies.


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StreaK (on 06 December 2019)

Ok, this is kinda bad news actually. This pretty much almost guarantees to me that the PS5 still won't be running games at 60 fps. I mean, what else would really be needed to upgrade at this point? 8K perhaps?


KBG29 (on 06 December 2019)

That is always the case. It wouldn't matter if PS5 was a Million Dollar device with Multiple CPU's/GPU's, TB's of Storage and RAM. Developers always decide how their game performs.

That said, ideally going forward, we should have more options. 1080p is still a very viable resolution. There is no reason devs can not offer quality and performance modes on PS5. Next gen console will be fully capable of something like this:

Game Targeting 4K/30
Quality Mode - 4K/30
Balanced Mode - 1440p/60 - 90
Perfomance - 1080p/90 - 120

Game Targeting 4K/60
Quality Mode - 4K/60
Balanced Mode - 1440P/90 - 120
Performance Mode - 1080p/120+

With variable refresh rate being a stansard in next gen consoles and televisions, this should be a very easy thing to implement.


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Zenos (on 06 December 2019)

So he's basically saying that people shouldn't buy the PS5 at launch. Alrighty then.

I'm against the practice of mid generational upgrades in general - it splits the playerbase and leads to more unoptimised games.


GaoGaiGarV (on 06 December 2019)

Well i people are fine with not playing PS5 games for at least 3 years...
And well so far i can play all games on my original PS4. No splitting in userbase whatsoever.
And if you want to play "unoptimised" games then play the last generations of PS3, Xbox 360, PS2 or Xbox. All systems which had no mid-gen upgrades.


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Zenos (on 06 December 2019)

@GaoGaiGarV You are correct on your first point - if people are not willing to wait, then this is a purchasing decision they'd have to make.

Being able to play all the games doesn't mean that the user base is not split. One part of the players are getting an inferior version of the game just because they are early adopters. There were also a couple of examples where games ran better on the Pro like Battlefield 4, which gave people with Pro an advantage in multiplayer.

Can't speak for the Xbox 360, but neither the PS3 nor the PS2 had mid generational upgrades similar to the Pro with an obvious power difference. They had slim models with more HDD space, but that was about it.


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Rafie (on 05 December 2019)

I don't think he should have said that. Even if that was their very intention. He pretty much kept fence sitters on the fence until the "Pro" versions are available.


GaoGaiGarV (on 06 December 2019)

Fence sitter: "Oh i wait until PS4 gets cheaper. Oh i wait until PS4 Pro comes out. Oh i wait until PS5 releases. Oh i wait until PS5 Pro......"

You get the point. Fence sitters are no viable target audience.


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Bandorr (on 06 December 2019)

That's not how that works. Oh a PS6 is coming? Let me just wait.
There was no release date. No time frame. It may be in 3 or even 4 years. People that wanted a PS5 aren't going to suddenly be ok with waiting that long.


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RaptorChrist (on 06 December 2019)

At first this made a lot of sense, but thinking about it more, why stop there? Might as well wait for the PS6 BC then. Getting the OG would allow you to have the most powerful version for a few years followed by the lesser version for a few years. Waiting for the Pro would mean having an old console for a few years followed by the most powerful version for a few years. I feel like your post makes sense in a closed system... but the cycle continues. New consoles keep coming out, so in the end whether you continually adopt mid-gen or early-gen, you're still only staying on top half the time.


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Rafie (on 06 December 2019)

Wow getting thumbed down for making a valid point. Hmm....

@RaptorChrist I feel like you got where I was coming from. My point IS....why would I, as a developer/manufacturer, forecast a "better/upgraded" version of a product that hasn't been released yet. Fence sitters are either won't care about the new upgrade, or they will. The latter is whom I was referring to. I get what all of you are saying, but this is reality scenario in a market like this (except for Nintendo). It isn't the norm yet like an upgraded IPhone or anything. This isn't how I would personally go about it. I would still get a PS5 at launch. He could have just waited like always and just announced a pro version months from the original announcement. I digress though.

Anyway...I appreciate the post fellas.


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Azzanation (on 05 December 2019)

If he said it or not, its obvious that next generation will have mid gen upgrades regardless.