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20,00 people... thats really going to work. Quit bitching you'll end up buying the game anyways :l

This is fantastic, Wow less than 2% percent of people are trying to form a boycott. lol that is just so sad. You get a year of entertainment out of a game for your money and now you are mad because the next versionis coming out too soon. Well, okay then. The funniest part about this whole thing is that of the 1.5% who are complaining at least half of you if not more are going to buy that damn game anyway because you know it is going to be Badass. Qit bitching., it's just a waste of time anyway. I am on my way to pre-order it right now.

Jesues christ your seriously making a petition because there releasing a sequel? Wow you steam owners are real panzies, Oh No there making a sequal, why don't you go cry about it, every other(and real system) will buy it in a heart beat so go finish PMS'ing then talk abotu it

Well if they don't want the game. We wii owners would love to have the game on the wii :P

So is there a petition for the people that will be buying it? :-)

Given L4D sold over 2 million 1% (now 1.5%) of owners isn't exactly such an overwhelming number to force Valve into a rethink. Come back and tell us when the petition gets to 200K, then it will be something that Valve will need to think on.

They need source engine next.0

Their current version is simply outdated. Source games look 2005/2006..

And were in 2009 !..

Ofcourse they're still good.. but you can feel it in the gameplay too in most games.

Dark Massiah of might and magic is an exception to the rool.

@machrider - You do realize L4D2 isn't any form of upgrade right? And your completely wrong on the HL2 Episodes. HL2's story was somewhat complete at the end but instead of going straight into HL3 they decided to continue the story from where they left off with the episodes.

Valve also explained HL2:Ep3's delays. They are working on massive engine upgrades which I expect will make the Source Engine more amazing then what it is. BUT only HL2:EP3 and any games AFTER L4D2 will get the engine upgrades.

They're wrong. Valve does not release games on time or commit to an actual logical or verifiable date. They follow what has been known as "Valve time."

Valve isn't making this sequel right away. By the time it comes out, more than enough time between the two games would have passed for this not to be a problem (which really, it isn't).

You don't see me bitching about the fact that they split Half Life 2 into episodes.

But guess what? We still haven't got Episode 3 despite the fact that they announced these episodes right after Half Life 2 came out and right after one another.

I would love a discount on Episode 3 myself. But you know what? That's stupid, not going to happen, and the same can be said about this entire petition.

It's almost at 30k now. I'm curious to see how many people will join this.

Almost at 3000 now. Wow.

Up to almost 29000 signatures now.

Why boycott all you will end up doing is make it where they don't upgrade the first one.Due to the fact they dont have the money because people dont want to buy there sequels.

While I'm interested in Left4Dead 2 and would probably wait for a price drop anyway, I do understand where the complaints are coming from (not counting the stupid ones about the daytime setting and such).

I'd like to see how this pans out.

Valve can GTFO in all honesty ... Their the new EA, do anything for money, even if its the same game every year

I think they're right.
Left 4 Dead is an awesome game but there are many things missing, that could easily be upgradet. But instead, they sell it for the price of a full game. I mean, the game already has too few levels and possibilities. So in the end, you pay 4x more then the game's worth... I bought L4D for 18$, it really was the limit for me to spend. I'm not gonna buy L4D2 for 50$ - either I wait till it's cheaper / for free or I won't buy it. It would be a great pity, but it's not like my life depends on it.

These petitioners need a day job. Seriously.

Well I have no plans of boycotting L4D2 (R2D2's cousin?!?)... I'll just do the same thing I did with the first L4D... wait for a price drop or Amazon's DotD to kick in!

Paying full price for 360/PS3 games is for suckers!!!

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. If anything I see this as good, as Valve will step up in one way or another, meaning that the PC owners of Left 4 Dead will undoubtedly benefit from this in the end.

I must be one of the few who will play No Mercy for another year no problem. Really, I will gladly pay $50 for this, though I do see where the signatories for this are coming from. Like I've said before, the fallout from Valve's announcement of L4D2 highlight the rift between the expectations of PC gamers and console gamers. PC gamers simply expect more, especially from a company like Valve.

The number may be small relative to those who bought the game but Valve is fairly conscious of its public image. I won't be too surprised if they come up with an explanation for why they are doing it this way and/or offer a discount to existing L4D owners (I think they probably planned to do something like this either way honestly).

I don't support this boycott but I will say it is more reasonable than I had originally thought. Ultimately I don't think the boycott will be a bad thing no matter what. The reason is that I seriously doubt Valve is going to compromise the integrity of the game just to accommodate them but it will cause them to think it over and possibly find a way to do it that pleases everyone.

Either way I'll be playing L4D2 regardless of whether it is a standalone game for $50, an expansion for $20-$30 or free DLC.

what a bunch of whiners...

20,000 is a joke compared to how many bought the game.

Ahhh shit....2.2 mil sold (subtract) 20k.....I think Valve can handle it. I guarantee half of the final tally of boycotts still buy the game in November when it releases, but doesnt have the testicular fortitude to admit it!

I bet at Valve they have a dry erase board with a drawing of a complete douche standing next to the current tally of the boycotts with a caption reading "waaahhhh, were is my free content?". Every morning they probably stand around it cracking jokes, drinking coffe, and adding the current tally to the number posted...."Hey John, boycott's up to 20k, bet ya $5 bucks it doesnt pass 40k, and if it does......who cares.....ha ha, lunch is on Microsoft".

Valves employees dont get paid to release free content, they get paid to sell and develop games!

They can have my $60 bucks because L4D2 will be worth it, just like the 1st was (IMO). Bring it on as soon as possible.......oh and where is my Episode 3??

I'm boycotting the PS3 version. Wish me luck.

Valve will still release it in November and it will sell a million + copies in a month. Then what?

I'm not buying part 2 -_-

So, if companies like MS are against free DLC, it makes it automatically ok to pay for everything?

PC owners are used to different approach from gaming companies, especially regarding value factor of the game (free patches, DLC, editing and modding ability). Valve is one of the top companies regarding that. So, when you get spoiled by Valve giving you absolutely wonderful support for most of their games, it's hard to accept the quick sequel approach they're making with L4D2.

I bought L4D as a certain "work in progress". IMHO, 4 scenarios are too little, no matter what the console players say. I expected the similar support we're getting for TF2. The support Valve promised when they were showing L4D. At least 1 or 2 new chapters and some other improvements.

But, even if we're not going to get that, Valve could've made L4D2 a non-free DLC, they even could priced it near the cost of the full game, but that would atleast keep L4D community whole, and not splitted into two parts.

C'mon people. You wanted to play the game you must be willing to pay money. Nothing is for free everyone knows that.

@monlosez: Only if the Sony fanboys signed up for Steam, lol.

@Darth

I'm boycotting it, though not for the same reasons the people above, i'm boycotting it because i have a policy against buying yearly sequels (its the reason I don't buy Sports Games) and it has only been a year since the original L4D came out so it goes against my policy.

I think alot of Sony fanboys signed this petition. Maybe 60%.

wont sell for shiet anyways. its TOO much liek the first. its called by the cheaper one. hello left 4 dead 1!

I hope they do knock it down to a expansion. That'll justify me buying the original game.

November to November is a year. They are still complaining.

Rofl.
Good shit.

Can't say I really care. They didn't say they wouldn't support L4D. They are just releasing another one. And guess what? Where does it say Valve is putting a Glock to your head? Get over it. No one cares if folks whine. Just don't buy it, plain and simple.

Speak with your wallet, not the Internet. I can almost bet those same 20K+ folks who signed it if L4D2 is even more addictive than the first one.

Talk is cheap.

L4D2 should be an expansion, Valve! Did you really changed that much or just raised the sun and made the witch walk?

I joined when there were only 345 people. Proud of it.

welsh - the issue is that there are massive gaps between the releases of all the titles you listed. Older titles get bug fixes only and no new content while the new gets new content every once in a while.

We have no idea how L4D will be handled because its been less then a year before release so it feels like they are ripping off the community at large because L4D isn't receiving the 2 - 3 year gap between games like previous titles have had. If all L4D gets after L4D2 gets release is bug fixes that would be a giant middle finger at everyone who bought L4D.

So Valve have actually said they are no longer supporting L4D? Or more likely they have not.

I can see the argument for the PC community but then they already manage to continue to support DOD and DOD Source, CS and CS Source, TFC and Team Fortress without to many issues so storm in a teacup for the PC base I would suggest.

A little more annoying for those who purchased the Console version of L4D who rightly expected more from Valve but as I said they may still continue to get their wish.

@mesoteto

wow its GROWING fast!

@seece: You still don't get it. This is something that Valve can't pull often, it disrupts the way the community works with a game.

You will hardly see them doing the same thing again in the near future. People wouldn't put up with it.

I know the game is obviously a rush job but this is ridicolous.

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"That Left 4 Dead owners be given discounts for Left 4 Dead 2, should it be released as premium content."

That's funny. If that were to happen then I demand EA to give me a discount on all their sports games, so since I bought Madden 2008 I demand that I get a discount for Madden 2009!

IMO, after less than 1 year, there should not be a new game comming out at all. To me, that just shows that they did not really release a complete game last year, which I have heard was full of bugs. Seriously.. If my favourite franchises were handled like this, I would not be happy, but rather question their reasons behind the first (or second) installment...

Littel tweaky? lol. You funny. Anyway you make some good points as teh the other side. I just find it ridiculous how much this upsets you.

Haha, so I looked up the Pro L4D group.. it still has 7 members

And I also found this on the forums - http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=891464

The people on the Pro L4D2 group are getting their accounts jacked!

@Darth

They did.. last I checked it had 8 members...

Welcome to the world of Microsoft gaming! The world of early sequels and premature cutoff of support for older products.

Why don't you try and refute what I'm saying then little Tweaky? :-)

I can imagine a petition by PC owners saying "We want L4D 2 ON PC"

that would be hilarious!

You mean Seece don't ya haxxiy.
Seriously. His whinging is almost worse than the the petitioners.

@ seece yea i think its best to keep it Xbox360 exclusive. L4D is one of those games that help defines a system.

I think Valve should follow Darth's advice, and maybe PC owners will chance their mind and beg for it back lol

"That Valve honor its commitment to release ongoing periodic content for Left 4 Dead."

that is their only resonable request. If Valve sticks to giving them what they promised (and that is not L4D2) then everything should be peachy.

@ Darth lol it would be entertaining to see the reaction but I really don't think anymore than 5% of PC gamers that bought this game actually care, its just a vocal view stomping their boots, the rest shouldn't suffer for their boycott.

Their requests are undoubtedly reasonable, no matter how much a certain forum member (whose name I won't quote) bitches around.

@seece

it would be funny if Valve said

"you don't want it PC dudes, you won't get it.....we'r making it 360 ONLY!"

@nen-seur

thanks

I'm reading the link, we really don't know what valve are cooking up for the original, new characters, new weapons and a new campaign could already be in the works. Thats what they were promised and thats what (they might) get.

They were not promised a brand new game with AI 2.0 and a host of other changes that are coming with L4D2

Is it just for... Or is the new L4D zombie hand giving us the finger???

It's a sign!!

@darthdevidem01

LOL, ur right (as usual)...glad to have u back may i add :-)

@seece: It's not just about the DLC. If you don't bother reading the link and my post why would I bother repeating the same thing again?

and no Vrock this is one of the reasons to get a 360, keep it 360 exclusive!!

NJ5 I think most people get it, the PC owners want lots of Free DLC, nobody said they're not getting it so whats with all the boycotting?

@ seece, i see..well in that case Valve should just bring it to Xbox360 and PS3 =P

As always, when this subject pops up people don't even bother realizing this is mostly about the PC game and community, which is quite different from the console community.

With consoles, sequels don't bother people much... it's just some money you have to spend. On PC games, the modding and mapping community is big and has a lot of weight.

This community is supported by Valve, to the point that Valve has added amateur maps to the official Team Fortress 2 version).

But again, it's obvious that many people will reply without even reading the context of this protest.

V Rock I'm going out on a limb here saying 99% of these in the boycott are PC owners. Most 360 owners ... nay ALL 360 owners I have talked to are looking forward to the sequel.

@non-seur

I dunno, maybe not in todays fast world where sequels = $$$$

I say send it to PS3 and share the love if some Xbox360/PC L4D owners arent thrilled =)

Someone call the wah-mubulance. More dumbass fanboys whining about a sequel. NEW ZELDA SHOWS LINK WITHOUT A SWORD WAH WAH WAH! Same thing, just with Left for Dead

Oh they're also ignoring everything Valve have said.

"We're STILL going to support L4D"

"We're thinking about adding the 4 campaigns from the first into the second", thus not splitting the userbase" right?

I think there requests are reasonable...........no?

@bobbuffalo... thru my understand what was promised as a free DLC update to all L4D owners, is now being turned into a sequal game and going to be sold at full price.

We request ..... we re-fucking-quest?

Get over yourself you bunch of moose.

This is stupid. I would much rather have a full fledged full price sequel to enjoy than have downloadable content hogging up my hard drive and slowing coming out over the course of a year. Likely anyone that has been playing Left 4 Dead has long since gotten their money worth. People need to stop being bitches and just be glad we get a sequel at all.

@thekitchensink: I don't think it's easy to fake in this case. It's a Steam group, so you need a Steam ID and Valve can easily check if those IDs correspond to people who have paid for the game.

@Bobbuffalo: Essentially Valve is breaking their philosophy and promises about sequels and updates. They've been touting 'software as a service', saying the free Team Fortress 2 updates work out very well for them.

Other than that, the PC community which plays L4D is afraid that this will split the community between two games (not just the gaming part, the modding, mapmaking etc).

People are getting upset because Valve promised tons of support for L4D for a long time, and yet they're releasing the sequel less than a year after the original launched.

OK I am lost here what happened? what's wrong with L4D?

@thekitchensink

I really like the new function!

You're really getting into this, aren't you, Darth?

20,000 is a lot, but not a lot for the internet. If I really cared to, I could go sign it 50 times under different names.

Seriously whats wrong with people!

I would be happy for a sequel If I liked the franchise, do we have ANY VG Chartzers boycotting it?