The VGC Top 100 Best Games of All Time, #50-41

by Cameron Morris, posted on 18 May 2009 / 106,016 Views

All right, everybody, we've entered the second half of our list and the competition is heating up considerably. There's been a lot of cheering, jeering, and head-scratching so far, but I like to think that these articles have told us a lot about you, the readers, and the games you like to play. Let's find out a bit more!

50. Mario Kart 64



The Nintendo 64 was known for its multiplayer: ask almost anyone, and among their fondest memories of the system will be the ability to sit down with three other people, fire up a game, and play together for hours at a time. Mario Kart 64 is important in that it exemplified this idea first, and was in many ways the best get-together game on the system. Everyone remembers playing Battle Mode in Block Fort, or those accursed moles tripping players up on Moo Moo Farm. Perhaps the game's greatest legacy is that, even after twelve years and four new iterations in the series, you can still find people in dormitories pulling out the N64 to play a round. Mario Kart 64 is a game about staying power. For many, there's nothing else quite like it.

Platforms: Nintendo 64, Nintendo Wii Virtual Console

 

49. Gran Turismo 4



Fans of racing games wage turf wars about which series reigns supreme, but one voice rings clear and loud like very few others: people love Gran Turismo. Love it, love it, love it. It may be the strict (even slavish) adherence to model detail, one of the most advanced physics models in the genre, or the sheer and varied selection of vehicles that you can choose from, but our community loves these games. Gran Turismo 4 in particular is known for its sheer size, boasting more cars than a reasonable person would count from more manufacturers than this writer knew existed.

Platform: Playstation 2

 

48. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion



There is almost no end to what can be written about the fourth game in the Elder Scrolls saga. It has practically defined the generation during which it was released, at least in terms of what can be expected of games which boast an open world. Oblivion is game in which one may literally do anything in several senses. In the first place, the game is an open world like no other: you may go anywhere and do anything, without or without direction as you see fit. There is almost no end to the number of things you can see or do or explore, and the way the game's AI interacts with itself often leads to complex and sometimes bizarre situations. As much as the game itself, though, the love for Oblivion is built around its mod community: people have taken Oblivion's toolset and used it to create hundreds of new possibilities and quests which serve to expand the game far beyond its previous boundaries, which were already wide or even nebulous. In Oblivion it's possible that you could wander away from the main quest, disappear into the woods or the mountains, and then never come back. This idea is what draws people to it, what has made it so well-loved.

Platforms: PC, Xbox 360, Playstation 3

 

47. Tales of Symphonia



Tales of Symphonia was a sort of perfect storm when it was released. At the time it originally came out, the Gamecube audience was starved for RPG experiences, anime in North America was more popular than ever before, and Tales of Symphonia provided easily recognizable voice actors from some of the most popular cartoon shows of the time. Combine these elements with a solid action-based battle system and the option for co-op play, and it's easy to see why Tales of Symphonia remains so popular among the people who played it. Cited for its strong characterization and exemplary voice acting, Tales of Symphonia was the biggest and most popular game in the franchise's history and continues to hold that title to this day. This game holds a very special place in a lot of fan's hearts, one that is not easily relinquished, and that has placed it a mark above its peers.

Platforms: Nintendo Gamecube, Playstation 2

 

46. Super Mario Kart



If you didn't see this one coming after how its sequel placed, I don't know what to tell you. Super Mario Kart is the first game in its series and still regarded by many fans as being the height of all Mario Kart. It's easy to see why, too: Super Mario kart took an idea as simple as Mario and friends riding in go-karts and from that concept forged a legacy that has lasted to this day, with every Mario Kart thereafter selling millions and millions of copies. You want the GP mode, the battle mode, the bananas and shells and Bowser driving along in a kart smaller than he is? You want the game that is responsible for the kart racing genre as it exists today, the game responsible for a franchise that is its own cottage industry? Look no further. Super Mario Kart is a titan for the affect that it has had on the industry after its release, both in terms of development and how its mark is printed indelibly on the minds of the people who played it.

Platform: Super Nintendo

 

45. Deus Ex



People enjoy cyberpunk; that's a fact of life. People also enjoys RPGs, as our list has shown so far. They enjoy shooters, too. Sometimes, people want a game that could combine all of these lovely elements into a single product with a simple and unified vision. Deus Ex delivered on that concept, and has carved out its own legend ever since. Deus Ex gave you control over your character and his abilities in a way that few other games did, allowing you to set down the parameters for what he could and could not do and then going wild within them, offering a tremendous degree of freedom in defining yourself in the context of the narrative. Beyond that, though, this freedom was combined with an intensely focused and thoughtful plot, entrenching players in a world of mystery and conspiracy and violence, where all the secrets in the world seemed to unravel, one after the other. Deus Ex is remembered for the way that it blended and transcended genres in a way no other game had done before and few (if any) games have done since, standing solid in each aspect that it meant to represent. People still speak of it fondly, and for good reason: in many ways, the game still has not been matched.

Platform: PC, Playstation 2

 

44. Halo 3



I think it fair to say that players everywhere were ready to finish the fight for a long, long time. Halo 3 was the center of the kind of media buzz and attention that games only get once a generation, with an ad budget bigger than some Hollywood blockbusters and expectations so high that scientists used them as an anchor for the world's first space elevator. But what did it come to? Well, quite a lot, actually. Halo 3 had one of the most explosive launches in the history of the medium and has remained consistently popular to this day, still selling in stunning quantities and on the road to selling over ten million units. Some might ask: how did it do it? The answer is simpler than the question: this game is everything that Halo fans ever wanted. It deals with a scale that other shooters only dream about, it has a competitive online community larger than some countries, remains the most eminently played and playable shooter of the generation so far, and its fans have made sure their friends know it. It brought to the table everything that Halo fans could want: an explosive finale, four-player online co-op, rebalanced multiplayer, and more of the gameplay that fans had come to expect and adore. Many are divided on whether or not it's a good shooter in the same way that other shooters are, but millions and millions of people have agreed that the experience it delivers is incomparable, worthy of a culture all its own. Halo 3 is the culmination of everything that Halo stands for, tremendous and terrifying and weirdly beautiful, and if the past is any indication, people will continue to love it and play it in huge numbers for years to come.

Platform: Xbox 360

 

43. Half-Life



When you talk about games that changed gaming and the way people look at genre boundaries, it's hard not to mention Half-Life. In 1998 developer Valve broke the mould for shooters of the era, releasing a game that was both thoughtful and carefully paced, atmospheric and cerebral, adrenaline-pumping and action-packed, glorious and absolutely terrifying. The story unfolds simply, with no cutscenes and control never wrested totally away from the player, placing him or her firmly in the shoes of Gordon Freeman, probably the personification of faceless heroism. Half-Life came out in the world of Quake and Unreal and said, "This is not enough; we can have more," and more is what players got out of it. Bereft of normal storytelling forms and given an organic, almost seamless world in which to play, Half-Life did things to gamers that no other game had done before, drawing in people who would not have been drawn in by any other experience in the medium. People protected Barney the security guard for as long as they could, and shook their fist at the enigmatic G-man, and wondered at the kind of horrors that could be lurking beneath the whirling blades of a ventilation shaft. In a game where the entire world was hostile, where the environment itself would mobilize to eradicate you, people found themselves incredibly alone, and in that loneliness they formed bonds that would be burned into their memories. Of course, the mod community had a lot to do with the power of this game - without Half-Life we wouldn't have Counter Strike, and then where would we be?

Platforms: PC, Playstation 2

 

42. Donkey Kong Country



Mario, meet your match. Donkey Kong Country did two very important things at the time of its release: first, it managed to establish the Super Nintendo as a powerhouse of a system, pushing graphics that the more powerful systems of the time could only match. Secondly, it took a property that hadn't been particularly relevant for years and made it into the silicon incarnation of simian awesomeness. In making Donkey Kong Country, Rare took solid platforming elements and combined it with the kind of collecting potential that gave birth to obsessive compulsive tendencies in many, many people. Introducing a colorful cast of characters (this is where we get Diddy Kong from, for those of you not in the know) and making them essential to the gameplay, Donkey Kong Country made great leaps in terms of what people expected from Nintendo consoles and from platforming games in general. To this day, no other Donkey Kong game has commanded the same kind of respect or the same kind of financial returns, and that is probably the most profound statement about its legacy.

Platforms: Super Nintendo, Gameboy Advance, Wii Virtual COnsole

 

41. God of War II



God of War II is a game that goes a long way toward the obsolescence of expository writing: no amount of waxing eloquent can capture the sheer visceral absurdity that this series has come to stand for in the space of only three games. God of War II, the second major game in the franchise, took every single element from its predecessor and built on it as far as the Playstation 2's hardware would allow the game to go. The first level is comparable to the finales of some very exciting games, and it never lets up from there, ramping up the adrenaline levels and the excitement quotient until it becomes a matter of sensory overload. After killing Ares, the previous god of war, our hero Kratos finds himself feeling very bored and very violent, and for his proclivities toward killing on an enormous scale he is struck down by Zeus. Instead of accepting the inevitability of fate, Kratos decides to crawl up out of Hades (again) and tear down the very foundations of the mythology in which he has been placed, changing the very weave of the Fates so as to change the outcome of his own story. The world-changing violence in this idea is actually outclassed, at every opportunity, by the violence which the player can partake in during the game's myriad and varied battles. If the first God of War was a theory of game design taken to its logical extreme, God of War II is an attempt to push past that extreme, to carve out a place in gaming history by force rather than by finesse. The most wonderful thing about it? God of War has succeeded in this aim, and the love of its players reflects that.

Platform: Playstation 2


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Numbers 90-81

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The VGC Top 100 Best Games of All Time is based entirely on votes by our members. The source for the list can be found here . Only games released before January 1st 2009 are included.


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Infinity (on 21 May 2009)

I voted Deus Ex as my #1 of course, but I am happy to see it make the top 50 at least. I think it is a little too obscure and subversive for many people, plus I heard the PS2 version sucked.


LtSombreChief (on 21 May 2009)

well i think the games like halo should probably be at least in the 20's and 30's but then again what do you expect when the website is filled to the brim with sony fanboys


Spedfrom (on 21 May 2009)

Top10 will be an all out shit throwing fest.


steelspawn18 (on 21 May 2009)

I'd say #1 would have to be a Mario game. Super Mario Bros. 3 perhaps I dunno. People have this weird obsession with Final Fantasy...they really arnt that good. Same thing every game basically. My #1 best game of all time would have to be Super Smash Bros. But thats just me.


Dioxinis (on 21 May 2009)

i hate these lists they are always full of good games but the top ten is always terrible and the order is ALWAYS ridiculous. portal at 99? thats sad and of course top 3 always being some iteration of ff7 and ocarina of time. seriously i love ff7 and all but its NOT top ten materiel and ocarina of time? i'm SICK of this game being number 1 EVERYWHERE its such a terrible game in general and as far as zelda games go Link to the past was INFINITY better. on a happier note i was very happy to see final fantasy tactics on this list. would have been nice to see it higher buuut i can see it not being for everyone(NOT that game is amazing!) but anyway the orders are always screwed... also i would love to see half-life 2 up in the top 20 :D killzone 2 will probly make an appearance somewhere since it hasnt but i cant really weigh on that as i havent really played it yet but i imagine if halo made it on this list killzone will. aaaanyway fingers crossed at ff7 and ocarina of time NOT being number 1


steelspawn18 (on 21 May 2009)

@ameratsu WHAT?!?!? Oblivion was amazing...


steelspawn18 (on 21 May 2009)

Glad I haven't seen Resident Evil 4 yet, because it should be in the Top 10, Top 20 at least. In my opinion its the best Resident Evil game to come out, Previous RE games just had really bad camera angles...controls weren't as smooth.


dcIKeeL (on 21 May 2009)

Do alot of people here haave a problem with zelda: ocarina of time being # 1, or even top 10 on the list? I certainly wouldnt, that game was insanely good.


ameratsu (on 20 May 2009)

At least MK64 placed higher than MKWii, that's good. Maybe the people who voted for Oblivion thought they were voting for the worst 100 games of all time? That's what I think happened.


Bladeforce (on 20 May 2009)

Closely followed by space invaders. these are truly grounbreaking games


Bladeforce (on 20 May 2009)

Mario Bros at the top!!


Columbia (on 20 May 2009)

oblivion at 48 wtf, it should be higher, i reckon final fantasy 7 or san andreas should claim top spot they were true landmark games and are still as fresh as they were on release.


forevercloud3000 (on 20 May 2009)

all I know is Final Fantasy VII better be in the top 5....at LEAST the top 10. I know a lot of FFVII haters in these chartz, but the game is an undeniable landmark in gaming history.


ELOdry (on 20 May 2009)

89. Fallout 53. Fallout 3 o.O Do you give extra points to current-gen games, just because they are more recent? F3 is ok, it's a nice little game. But F1 is a LOT better. I hope F2 will be in the top 5.


ELOdry (on 20 May 2009)

45. Deus Ex 44 Halo 3. Seriously? Deus Ex should be in the top 10. Halo 3 should'nt be in the top 100 at all.


outlawauron (on 20 May 2009)

@ Mirson lol, right. LBP is in the 80s. That's modest. The only one I could see you complaining about is Uncharted's placing.


NeoSizer (on 20 May 2009)

Halo 3 over Fallout 3?! Are you serious? What's next, Final Fantasy 7 at #1? Judging from Cloud in the banner I'm starting to get this sickening feeling that it's going to be...


vlad321 (on 20 May 2009)

@ssj12 I'm thinking this will get a lot more flak for Deus Ex at 45th than half-life at 43rd, or at least as much. This is definitely not a list you want to show the internet. Just shows what shit games people like on these forums though.


RCTjunkie (on 19 May 2009)

WHAT? Why is Mario Kart 64 better then the Wii iteration? >:(


Zezlar (on 19 May 2009)

Am I the only person who thinks Half-Life is seriously over rated? It's a good game don't get me wrong, but at least in my opinion it shouldn't even be on the top 100 games of all time list.


HALOOOOOOOO (on 19 May 2009)

Oh man, Half-Life is way too low. Ah well, that's what happens when you have a site full of Sony and Nintendo fanboys. And God of War II should in no way be ahead of Halo 3. Donkey Kong Country should be at least 15 spots higher...


Retrasado (on 19 May 2009)

poor halflife :( and wth is up with MK64? that was the best one by far. Oh well, it IS a pretty good list


Slimebeast (on 19 May 2009)

Oblivion only came 48th? Horrible and sad. It should have come first.


kanjitech18 (on 19 May 2009)

First comment on this site but wow. Honestly shocked by a "Tales of" game appearance. In a good way. Tales of Symphonia is still one of my favorite games, and Tales of games. Probably too much of a wish to see any other Tales games on there. Tales of the Abyss and Vesperia would be great! Still liking the list so far.


el_rika (on 19 May 2009)

You must mean this site's "users", as this chart is the result of a users vote, not editor's choice. Anyway, the way i see it, 'all' the games in this Top 100 are great games that could be considered some of the best games ever made.


ssj12 (on 19 May 2009)

Half-Life this low.... I dugg this but this site is going to be bashed by the internet for this.


PullusPardus (on 19 May 2009)

whoever dugg this list, you brought to this site alot of haters thank you very much.


mjk45 (on 19 May 2009)

of cause the biggest selling games will make there presence felt ,so deus ex is down further than it should be,some of my favourite games like M.U.L.E on the c64 ,impossible mission,wont be there,some will,but to limit it to 5 games per person come on


C_Hollomon (on 19 May 2009)

Nice list but I would put God of War II in my top 10.


zexen_lowe (on 19 May 2009)

Nice to see Gran Turismo 4 and God of War II up there, they deserve it


Soriku (on 19 May 2009)

Well this jumped in views really fast... I blame ToS! ;)


GoKanuks (on 19 May 2009)

Zelda, Ocarina of time BEST GAME EVER! www.privacy-center.de.tc


RicardoWilliams (on 19 May 2009)

donkey kong country for the win.


atma998 (on 19 May 2009)

lol at oblivion!


sabby_e17 (on 19 May 2009)

Gran Turismo 4 ftw


yog-sothot (on 19 May 2009)

Deus Ex 45th ???? No No NOOOO It's f***ing number ONE damnit ! Hem sorry ^_^ Let's say it's MY personnal number one


Lafiel (on 19 May 2009)

@ Mirson ) LBP is at #84


vlad321 (on 19 May 2009)

whoa whoa whoa... Deus Ex at 45 and Half-Life at 43? I thought the list would get better the further down it got but this goes well beyond simple epic fail, it's astronomically epic fail.....


Mirson (on 19 May 2009)

@Out, Valkyria will be there in the top 30 along with Metal Gear Solid 4, LittleBigPlanet and other PS3 exclusives. Also, lol @ ToS being higher than FFIV.


Everpain (on 19 May 2009)

@ Mummelmann - Half Life is debatable. A very good FPS that really advanced the genre, but Deus Ex? The title itself is synonymous with anti-climax...


Lafiel (on 19 May 2009)

@ DOLBYdigital ) after top 20 this place will go up in flames


Reasonable (on 19 May 2009)

Half Life way down given its impact on the industry and success - but then I do expect to see a fairly console centric set of titles vs PC. Nice to see Deus Ex actually got some love - one of the most challenging and interesting games ever (if you like plot, shooting, rpg, globe trotting and well thought out conspiracy theories.


quarashi (on 19 May 2009)

Good to see Super MK above MK 64! Halo 3 should be higher =P. Def surprised about Oblivion, though it is a damn awesome game.


non-gravity (on 19 May 2009)

All this complaining >.> Awesome list!


Mummelmann (on 19 May 2009)

Deus Ex and Half-Life outside of top 10 is a massive fail imo. No no no... :-(


Swimcito (on 19 May 2009)

Starcraft gotta be the number 1 game


DOLBYdigital (on 19 May 2009)

Impossible to please everyone but I'll wait to see the whole list before I impart any of my personal opinions. Top 20 will be the most debatable obviously ;)


theRepublic (on 19 May 2009)

Apparently I am one of the few who thinks that Mario Kart Wii is the best of the series.


Leonidus (on 19 May 2009)

God of War 2 deserves to be there, now stop whining. There is worse games listed there


joshin69 (on 19 May 2009)

mmm, all faith lost. Deus ex and half life NOT in the top 10, forget the rest of the top 100, its clearly screwed


arsenicazure (on 19 May 2009)

ok.. where the hell are the SNK titles.. KOF'96/97 defntly does deserve a mention on these charts...


Staude (on 19 May 2009)

lol halo 3 Anyways this is the thing that's gonna happen on all the lists XD people complaining :p


outlawauron (on 19 May 2009)

@xbebopx Morrowind is on the list.


Eventyr (on 19 May 2009)

Decent list so far. I don't understand people complaining. Different tastes for christ's sake! Zelda OOT will most likely being number 1, which it deserves.


Scoobes (on 19 May 2009)

Half-Life? Oblivion? Here? not higher? and worst of all... Deus Ex, not even in the top 10? And worse still, behind Halo 3? What the hell is wrong with this community? The last sentence in the description says it all "People still speak of it fondly, and for good reason: in many ways, the game still has not been matched". If anyone hasn't played it then you're missing a glorious piece of gaming history.


RyougaZell (on 19 May 2009)

A tales game ten or twenty places ahead of a Shin Megami Tensei? Pfft


sonicshuffle (on 19 May 2009)

What? Halo 3 all ready!


sapient (on 19 May 2009)

I have no problem with the games being chosen I think we can all agree that they are all great games. The order on the other hand seems bizarre at best. My complaint ... xenogears, suikoden 2, paper mario, super mario RPG NOT in the top 50 games. Tales of Symphonia, super mario kart and Halo 3 "in" the top 50 games.


wholikeswood (on 19 May 2009)

How many bloody Mario Karts........


TruckOSaurus (on 19 May 2009)

Yeah for the Mario Karts, especially MK64 so much fun. The best battle mode out of them all. Oh and all Mario Karts are vastly superior in the fun department to the GTs :P


coolestguyever (on 19 May 2009)

Gran Turismo 3 will hopefully be top 20. There better not be any more Mario Kart in the top 40. 2 of them in the top 50 is enough.


coolestguyever (on 19 May 2009)

Best list yet, but whats with Deus Ex? I've never heard of that, I've heard of the rest of them. Glad to see Halo 3, God of War and Gran Turismo 4


PeteyPeeps (on 19 May 2009)

Donkey Kong Country ... TOP 20 Atleast ... Halo 3? GTFO, not even in the top 100 ....... God Of War 3? ... Questionable ... I Hope They Have a Dreamcast Game as Number 1 ... So Many Memorable Games


Jumpin (on 19 May 2009)

Mario Kart was alright for its time, but is not very playable today. Mario Kart 64 is still playable today and was more significant for its time. Donkey Kong Country was what got people looking at Nintendo seriously again for the first time since Mario Brothers 3. So that game certainly deserves its place along with Mario Kart 64. The other games? I am not so sure about. Tales of Symphonia I have yet to play of all the games in this group of 10. Skies of Arcadia was my #1 pick, so I hope to see it too =)


Zkuq (on 19 May 2009)

Deus Ex should probably have been higher... But this is pretty good. Definitely not terrible.


The Fury (on 19 May 2009)

Super Mario Kart at 46?...Everything else on this part of the list seems fine but that game alone breaks it, it's a top 10 game not top 50.


hunter_alien (on 19 May 2009)

God of War 2 and Half Life, maybe even GT4 deserves to be on the list IMO... but 2 Mario Karts... common /:)


Akvod (on 19 May 2009)

Yeah for Deus Ex!!


Unitrob (on 19 May 2009)

Glad Mario Kart 64 came in higher ranked than Mario Kart Wii... I Hope we see Shadow of the Colossus, Mario 64 in top 10 and Ocarina claims number one.... Half Life should be ranked higher though... people tend to forget how important that game was for the industry...


CaptainDJ (on 19 May 2009)

Interesting list. Half Life 2 better be in the top 20s.


Kyuu (on 19 May 2009)

I got the feeling that ToV will never make it there =(


JUG (on 19 May 2009)

Good list. Looking forward to the next installment.


xbebop (on 19 May 2009)

Half-life deserves to be in the top 20. Oblivion deserves to be 60-70ish; though Morrowind deserves to be on this list.


libellule (on 19 May 2009)

Halo3 before CS shio will be happy ! By the way, where is planetscape torment ?


Araknie87 (on 19 May 2009)

It's true, you must set it mirrorwind not oblivion c'mon. For the rest of the list it's ok.


Son1x (on 19 May 2009)

Half Life doesn't deserve to be there. It deserves WAY higher.


Dazkarieh (on 19 May 2009)

WTF? Oblivion? Kidding me?? I can't believe this. The worst in the series, boring, boring boring... how can it?


RedWiizard (on 19 May 2009)

The fact that many people here started VG with N64, PS1 or younger consoles makes this list look ridiculous. Games like Mass Effect, No More Heroes or Little big Planet are good but they should never be near the top 100 games of all time. Where are secret of Mana, Super mario brothers, Super Metroid, Zelda aLttP, F-Zero and others? I really really hope they are in the 40-1 top games. And games like Sonic, Shenmue, SMK or the first Zelda should be way closer to the top considering what they brought to the world of gaming.


bkslopper (on 19 May 2009)

Ew, Mario Kart 64. Worst Mario Kart game I've played. Tell me. How does Nintendo manage to create blurry visuals and a subpar framerate on a machine that's lightyears more powerful than the SNES? Nintendo went for graphics on the N64 and ignored framerates and playability. Sad thing is, it didn't even look that good either. Good thing to see that the original beat it, but I'd take any Mario Kart game over the N64 atrocity.


Finnbar (on 19 May 2009)

Awesome!!! Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 64 and GoW2!!! love this list.


kabhold (on 19 May 2009)

Good job khuutra.


Jalocin (on 19 May 2009)

Super MK is pure win.


Hephaestos (on 19 May 2009)

I still say the list is weird because of the 5 votes limit... say you like MK... you vote for SNES N64 GC WII and nothing else? no, you have to pick one. Now say you loved Lost Odyssey... well you just vote for LO. The only series games that will be in the top are the huge ones Mario Zelda, Final Fantasy and perhaps a GT because of the number of votes all itterations will get... but the rest gets screwed, like MK Snes did here. I can understand not liking MK and comments like "no MK should be before GT", but that can't apply to the SNES version, which came out in a time where 16 bits graphics couldn't deliver GT like graphics. MK Snes invented a genre (or made it mainstream) racing with objects, that was also copied by high octane and wipeout (they just added the high tech and speed to the formula).


Epke (on 19 May 2009)

GT4 only one point above a dorkey cartoon racer o__O


Sapphire (on 19 May 2009)

DKC and Mario Kart <333


Tonttu (on 19 May 2009)

Yay for ToS. \o/ MK64 should really be higher. But good list so far imo.


Rickz0r (on 19 May 2009)

Also, Halo 3 is way to high on the list I.M.O. Uncharted should've been higher the this 'fragfest'.


outlawauron (on 19 May 2009)

I think this rules out any chance of Valkyria Chronicles or Phantasy Star Online appearing. And I'm really starting to get worried by the lack of Final Fantasy.


Rickz0r (on 19 May 2009)

Oblivion > Uncharted > Fallout 3 > Warcraft 3... Weird community.. As much as I like Uncharted, I would pick Fallout 3 and Warcraft 3 over it anyday. But I wouldn't pick oblivion over Uncharted, and especially not over Fallout 3. People call Fallout 3 oblivion with guns, but I played Oblivion only 20 hours b4 I got bored, and I've already put 30 into Fallout 3, and I'm still planning to play alot. And no, I'm not obsessed with guns.


Everpain (on 19 May 2009)

Super Mario Kart is a top 10 game... Presumably is Deus Ex is here, System Shock 2 is further up the list somewhere?


Quickdraw McGraw (on 19 May 2009)

@ Khuutra Oh, thanks, I must have missed the last segment. Still too high for my liking =P.


jonnhytesta (on 19 May 2009)

still no ffviii.im waiting


Khuutra (on 19 May 2009)

Are you sure


thetonestarr (on 19 May 2009)

Half-Life was also on the Dreamcast.


Khuutra (on 19 May 2009)

@Quickdraw McGraw: Look through the list again. You won't be seeing much more Halo.