Overwatch 2 Beta Impressions: Headed in a Good Direction - PreviewDaniel Parker , posted on 07 May 2022 / 4,211 Views
I was hoping for high resolution textures packs. These games will be made to play on Playstation 5 but it is still a 3GB VRAM game... amazing art design, the game looks great, but why not give us those 4x textures now (there's not a lot of content to get people to pay money, I'll take the free upgrades though)
Honestly, I can't recall how much vram overwatch uses. Personally, I play with everything at the lowest settings, except texture quality and model detail to cut down on response time, and maintain 1440p, 165fps. I really don't notice the changes in graphical quality while I'm playing the game anyway. As for the consoles, it's still the beta, and maybe by the time OW2 releases, there will be proper current-gen versions.
What slowly turned me off OW in general was role queue and the lack of content since Echo's release. From what I've heard from friends getting in or youtube videos I've watch, this is much the same, tanks being a single player, 5v5, it's odd changes I think personally. To me, limiting the choice of character went back against it's original appeal and their ideas for it. What all because some people wanted to play attackers all the time? Well duh, in MP PvP games that's how it works, people don't want to be tanks, just being in front of everyone or a support at the back hiding while healing, they want to be in on the action.
Of the new characters they created since launch and the way they changed 'roles' from Tank, Offence, Defence, Support to what we have no. Joining majority of character into one thing called Attackers then limiting the choices in other roles then adding role queue was just a mess.
My main hope however is for PvE, which this beta isn't. I've had a lot of fun in the Arcade PvE mode with my friends, the challenge of it at higher levels. That will be unaffected by Pro balancing changes but they need to add a lot for it to be worth the upgrade personally.
EDIT: Sorry, double post.
Yeah. As I said, I would have liked the game to stay 6v6. But there's more than one way to balance the game, and if it is balanced in the end, then it's fine. Two less players on the map, so it means there's more open space. The offensive and defensive categories weren't really necessary and that's why they were fused together into the damage role. But, tanks, DPS, and healers all play the game differently.
There is open role queue in Overwatch. It's been there for about 2 years or so and it's honestly a mess. Most often times, I'm the only tank, and there's literally 0 healers. I think it's fine to split them up, because the game did improve by most peoples' opinions. People just want to make sure they have actual tanks and healers on their team so they can have a reasonable chance of winning. Getting 4 healer mains, then expecting one of them to just swap to Widow Maker because that's what the team needs is unrealistic.
The original vision of the game didn't really align with how players were actually playing the game, so it's good they didn't stick to allowing things like selecting 6 Winston's on a team.
I know it's hard to get the right balance. The offence defence thing was because of the game's design as each game you'd switch sides. If they could have added the 2-2-2 thing but kept the original 4 categories it might have worked so if you picked 'tank' what this mean was tank or defence, attacked was offence or defence and then support was support and defence (yes defence is the changable class) because having a Mai can be as good as any tank depending on their role or map.
I never thought the game was unbalanced for the way it was when it was 6v6 and open to what champs you played, issue came from people complaining about a team just picking attackers or gaots. Enemy team picked GOATS, yet our team picks Widow and Hanzo, why do you think goats was working so well?
I'd still take open 6v6 over restricting my choice any day. The forced roles is what really turned me off and when they added back in normal, I still played tanks and supports but played and changed based on what I thought was needed at the time, sometimes Orisa can only do so much when a Bastion mowing the enemy down was a far better choice.
Maybe this is more my problem though, as I played based on map, not role and 2-2-2 took that away from me. If people were so limited by their characters that as a support main they could only play support when characters like Orisa or Mei exist. You need to be able to adapt that was the point of the game right?
Disagree with the Mei comment. You cannot shoot or see through her Ice wall, and if she's not using ice block or ice wall, she's not tanking any damage for the team and she cannot attack while using ice block. Her specialty is dividing the enemy team so that they can be picked off.
Goats is exactly highlights why the game was so imbalanced back then. There should have been negative role-passives that stacked if you picked multiple of the same class. I've made custom games in Overwatch. I never had a problem with GOATS, because while you could pick them, Tanks gave off lots of ult charge, and healers couldn't heal other characters at the same rate as characters without healing abilities. So, Ana, Mei, Roadhog, Reaper etc. would only get 30% or less healing from Mercy.
To balance out the ult charge tanks gave out, you'd pick someone like Doomfist, or Genji, who didn't give out lots of ult charge, but still did plenty of damage and didn't have the healing penalties of the other characters.
It meant that each role had its place, and you needed a combination of all three to keep things in order. There's nothing stopping you from picking whatever you wanted, but if your loadout wasn't thoughtful, you were gonna have a rough time but at the same time, such teams weren't doomed to fail.
I don't like the idea of an "open" 6v6, because the game doesn't balance for things like that. The game degrades to stacking on the same hero, that can stack abilities, like Sigma, Winston, or Torbjorn, and if you're not doing that, you're not playing to win.
As I said before, Tanks and healers play the game differently, so just because you're good with tanks doesn't mean you're going to play healers at the same level. Some people can, but most can't and that was a problem. Especially considering people would be so upset on character choice without considering how of a player is on a specific hero.
Personally, I hate playing DPS characters simply because of the queue times, so I'm more than happy with tank so I don't have to wait. And in Overwatch 2, I get the whole category to myself.
You can still play heroes based on map, as long as you stayed within your role. The problem before 2-2-2 was that teams often wouldn't have a tank or healers because no one wanted to play those characters and would compete against members on their own team, and whoever had the least damage would be screamed at to do something else. While that was going on, the clock was still ticking, and when goats finally came about, Blizzard eventually gave up trying to balance the game for it, because they didn't know how to balance it.
It was just a big mass of problems and they couldn't add a third shield tank to the game without 2-2-2, as they would have had nearly 5,000HP in barriers at the time of Sigma's original release and you'd never break through that. Even Orisa and Sigma alone were enough to break the game.
Sadly, the way the game has adapted is a result of pro and casual play based on Blizzard's own character design. The area of effect healing shields and tanks allowed GOATS to thrive after release of Bridgette and constant shields adding to the game. Sigma's release shield was 2000 strength, like why did they think that was okay?
Don't get me wrong, I understand why changes were made, just as a flex player, 2-2-2 was just a hindrance to my enjoyment of the game and if anything it was a punishment for one-tricks. Only play McCree huh? Well, now you can only play him every 10 minutes for 10 minutes. ;-)
I just wonder if better compromises could have been made. Maybe even going as far as to just add bans but there are too few characters for that.
I can play most characters at a decent level, I'm obvious better as some (Orisa) and worse at others (Widow) but could play all roles well enough because that was required for the game overall. Limiting yourself to just 1 character or 1 role always seemed like bad thing to me from a player standpoint because the games original design was to adapt, on situations, on if a comp wasn't working, on map. Sometimes a objectives did not need 2 tanks and 2 supports and distribution of character did not help the matter either.
Was it really that hard for a support who got stuck playing DPS to just pick Bastion and sit there mowing people down? or a DPS who got stuck playing tank picking Roadhog and hook shoot melee oneshotting squishies?
Brigitte, nor any other character gives armor in Overwatch 2. As for Overwatch 1, Brigitte can only give armor with her Ultimate, and they degrade after 30 seconds. All instances of extra health in Overwatch 2 is treated as temporary and doesn't give ult charge.
For the point about Bastion, yes, that's a bad idea. Bastion as a character was so bad that he had to be changed for Overwatch 2. He's extremely easy to deal with, especially if the person playing him is a healer main.
Roadhog can hook combo him. D.Va can hold defense matrix over him (Bastion can't move away from the ult in time if he's in turret mode) and he also requires all the teams resources to be pumped into him to keep him alive.
And Roadhog isn't going to be a good replacement for a main tank. If you're not playing on your main role, you should be playing in a lower rank. If I was expected to play DPS in diamond just for getting there on tank, I'd throw. I cannot play healer or DPS in diamond or even platinum for that matter.. I only assume I could at least maintain in gold.
Also, I've had hogs on the team who missed nearly all their hooks, and when they'd finally get one, they didn't finish off the enemy.
The whole, "picking what's best for the team" idea isn't really a thing. Just playing what your best at gives so much more value, because you're locked to a particular role anyway. You can possibly make an argument for tanks, because tank synergy can make or break the game, but for every other role, there's no reason to just pick whatever you're best at.
"Just playing what your best at gives so much more value, because you're locked to a particular role anyway."
But that's the point, forcing people to wait 15 minutes to play what they are best at doesn't help anyone, it's wasting their time. 6v6 open allows people to play what they are best at and most the time, there is at least 1 tank and support anyway.
I don't think much of what they are doing is going to help things. Like moving Doomfist into tank. With only 1 tank a comp where that tank player is Hammond or Doomfist, I expect people to just get flamed more because the way their characters are played.
But we are obviously going nowhere with this. ;-)
I prefer open flex play you prefer role queue. We can just hope PvE is worth it. :P
Considering that Orisa doesn't have a barrier anymore, your only barrier tanks are Sigma, Rein, and Winston. I've only had one instance of someone telling me to switch off D.Va, but after eating graviton, dragons, and getting a triple kill with my ultimate. he went quiet. I understand wanting to win, but some people are treating the beta like it's competitive. lol.
Also, there was a patch that was released since my write-up. Open Queue is back, now. It's still 5v5, but if you want 3 tanks and 2 healers, you have that option still.
Doomfist wasn't just moved to tank, he plays differently, and he's a larger character than before, too. Some players are really good with him, but he's going to take a lot of practice.
Having one tank really forces you to learn the map and not fight out in the open. You're not going to have a barrier tank every game and you have to learn to do without by not standing in front of chokes.
Honestly, though, I switch between open queue and role queues. Once I started getting top 500 players in my open queue games, I stopped playing it, because I felt I was high enough. Top 500 begins around 3400 SR in open queue, whereas, it's probably closer to 4100 SR in role queue.
Let's hope the PvE is good, though. It seems that's what blizzard is putting most of the development into anyway. Perhaps there's nothing to worry about with that either.