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Ukraine Asks PlayStation, Xbox, and All Game Companies to Block All Russian and Belorussian Accounts

Ukraine Asks PlayStation, Xbox, and All Game Companies to Block All Russian and Belorussian Accounts - News

by William D'Angelo , posted on 02 March 2022 / 4,708 Views

Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister Mykhailo Fedorov in an open letter posted via Twitter has asked PlayStation, Xbox, and all video game companies to temporarily block Russian and Belarussian accounts, stop the participation of eSports teams from Russia and Belarus, and cancel all events to be held in Russia and Belarus.

Fedorov has also asked Riot Games, Electronic Arts, Ubisoft and Wargaming to close their offices in based in Russia.

While PlayStation and Xbox have yet to respond to the open letter, multiple gaming companies around the world have shown their support for Ukraine following Russia's invasion of the country.

Microsoft in a blog post posted earlier this week did say it is working on protecting Ukraine from cyberattacks. The company is also working with International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and multiple UN agencies to help mobilize resources to help the people of Ukraine.

Read the open letter from Fedorov below:

To all game development companies and esports platforms

The Russian Federation has carried out a deceptive and outrageous military attack on my country! Just imagine, in 2022, cruise missiles attack residential neighbourhoods, kindergartens and hospitals in the heart of Europe.

The armed forces and citizens are defending Ukraine till the end! The whole world is repelling the aggressor through the imposition of sanctions - the enemy must suffer significant losses. But we need your support - in 2022, modern technology is perhaps the best answer to the tanks, multiple rocket launchers (hrad) and missiles.

I am sure that you will not only hear, but also do everything to protect Ukraine, Europe and finally, the entire democratic world from bloody authoritarian aggression - and I appeal to temporarily block all Russian and Belarusian accounts, temporarily stop the participation of Russian and Belarusian teams and gamers in all international esports events and cancel all international events holding on the territory of Russia and Belarus.

We are sure that such actions will motivate the citizens of Russia to proactively stop the disgraceful military aggression.

Yours sincerely,

Deputy Prime-Minister of Ukraine

Minister Mykhailo Fedorov


A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel dedicated to gaming Let's Plays and tutorials. You can contact the author at wdangelo@vgchartz.com or on Twitter @TrunksWD.


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thevideogameninja (on 02 March 2022)

Looks like we are in the beginning phases of all these sanctions.

Hopefully they bring about a swift and peaceful resolution to this conflict before they spiral out of control and start effecting normal citizens ON BOTH SIDES in various ways.

-PEACE NOT WAR NINJA APPROVED-

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VAMatt (on 02 March 2022)

I get the sentiment here. But, much like the US embargo of Cuba, things like this generally help prop up the scumbag regime by allowing them to spin things to demonstrate that the west is their enemy. Further, this would punish ordinary Russians and all of the stakeholders in these companies. The Russian oligarchs don't give a fuck.

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Paatar VAMatt (on 02 March 2022)

Agreed. While I understand the mindset, ordinary people there haven’t done anything wrong and now they’re being targeted simply because they’re Russian—which is of course wrong.

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Tridrakious Paatar (on 02 March 2022)

What's worse? Losing a gaming account or getting blown up from a missile?

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Paatar Tridrakious (on 02 March 2022)

I’m not talking about what’s worse or better here in that scenario, and you know that.

Two things that are both wrong can exist at the same time regardless of the difference in severity.

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SecondWar Paatar (on 02 March 2022)

Whilst I understand where you are coming from, continuing to operate in the country generates tax revenue that helps fund the Russia war-machine. Cutting the business, and thus the tax revenue, is a justified move.

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Bejito1983 SecondWar (on 02 March 2022)

And what about Azov Battalion ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Azov Special Operations Detachment (Ukrainian: Окремий загін спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: Okremyi zahin spetsialnoho pryznachennia "Azov"), often known as Azov Detachment, Azov Regiment (Ukrainian: Полк Азов, romanized: Polk Azov), or Azov Battalion (until September 2014), is a right-wing extremist[1] and neo-Nazi[2][3][4] unit of the National Guard of Ukraine.

Explain to me, I'm a little bit slow.

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KratosLives SecondWar (on 04 March 2022)

How about we cut off everything from russians so they die miserably all while putin laughs and does what he keeps intending on doing. You think ordinary people in russia shouldn't get some break from the mess of everything? I'm sure video games will help putin on his quest with all that cash..

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SecondWar KratosLives (on 04 March 2022)

Can you suggest a measure that would hit the Russian government and no Russian civilians, because if you can then I'm all for it.
And you know full well I did not mean only video games, my first target would be the oil&gas.

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KratosLives SecondWar (on 04 March 2022)

I'm just saying, video games. It's crazy..

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SecondWar KratosLives (on 04 March 2022)

Video Games, sure - especially on their own.
But it seems to be part of a general move to cut Russia off from most markets. Also so far I'm unaware of any gaming platform moving to cut-off their services in Russian markets.

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Zkuq Hiku (on 02 March 2022)

Well, it doesn't really seem to be that hard. If you're Russian, you probably have to go your of your way to find other kinds of news, and even then it might not be easy to believe the view that differs so much from the one you've grown into ever since Putin came into power.

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Zkuq Hiku (on 02 March 2022)

From what I've heard, that's true too. The young are probably more likely to oppose Putin, although not all do. It's still probably somewhat challenging even for many younger people. It would be nice to get exact statistics, but I can really get any truthful statistics about this...

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Zkuq Hiku (on 02 March 2022)

Yeah, and even if polls are accurate, it would probably by very hard to get hold of the actual results.

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VAMatt Hiku (on 02 March 2022)

When western media sources cut off Russians, we play right into the hands of the Russian propaganda machine. Then the Russian state controls even more if what ordinary Russians see and hear.

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VAMatt Hiku (on 02 March 2022)

When Western media stops operating in the country, it makes it a lot easier for the Russian state to control the information flow to Russian people. The internet has both helped and hurt the ability of ordinary people to get accurate information. State actors are very good at using social media and other online resources to shape public opinion. The Russians are known to be the best in the world at doing this. Why do we want to give them control of an even larger percentage of the media that Russian people see?

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Agente42 VAMatt (on 02 March 2022)

the cuba embargo it´s horrendous action, nothing justify this embargo, and this hurt imensaly cuba citizen.

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Kristof81 VAMatt (on 03 March 2022)

It's a war. War brings victims from both sides. Everything considered, banning an account seams like nothing. It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.

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VAMatt Kristof81 (on 03 March 2022)

Okay. But, it helps the "enemy".

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Amnesia (on 07 March 2022)

As French, I feel lucky to have avoided these sanctions when NATO destroyed Serbia in 1999 for a similar background.

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eva01beserk (on 02 March 2022)

This sounds evil to. Why punish regular citizens? Painting an entire country for the actions of their dictator is just as bad.

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dark_gh0st_b0y eva01beserk (on 02 March 2022)

Are you even watching what Russia is doing to regular citizens in Ukraine? Being blocked from video games is NOTHING. Russia's government represents the majority of its citizens, and their country's government is KILLING regular citizens in Ukraine. It's in the hands of Russian people to overthrow their dictator if they do not agree with him - as so many countries have done before. Standing by and watching others suffer is not an option without consequences.

Ban Russia and Russians from anywhere they can be banned from. Their government is their responsibility, not ours.

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eva01beserk dark_gh0st_b0y (on 02 March 2022)

Should we also add all of china and the middle east to that ban list?

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dark_gh0st_b0y eva01beserk (on 02 March 2022)

If the Chinese government or a Middle Eastern country's government is currently carrying a full-scale war on another country, yes we should.

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eva01beserk dark_gh0st_b0y (on 02 March 2022)

Thats my point. They did. Specially china that imprisoned and is killing and harvesting organs of thier own civilians who dare have the Muslim religion. Everyone knows it yet the media is not leading any retaliation to China. Why you think that is?

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dark_gh0st_b0y eva01beserk (on 02 March 2022)

that is a very off-topic example - it is an internal matter of China, within their borders, therefore it is up the Chinese to solve it

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eva01beserk dark_gh0st_b0y (on 02 March 2022)

Yes lets focus on the crimes against humanity the media wants you to focus on. Fu** all Russians. Children as well.

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dark_gh0st_b0y eva01beserk (on 02 March 2022)

it's not the media, I have sense clear enough to tell when matters are internal - within a country, and when they are not

all Russians... including children? I spoke about the majority of Russians, especially the ones that can do something to overthrow Putin and possibly save the world but they sit in their comfort, children are the greatest victims ALWAYS

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eva01beserk dark_gh0st_b0y (on 02 March 2022)

And who do you think these actions are primaraly hurting? Is it not children? But thats ok I guess. As long as you give it to Putin.

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dark_gh0st_b0y eva01beserk (on 02 March 2022)

not sure which actions you are referring to, if you mean actions against the Russian economy, it's adults that hold it so they are hurt the most, meanwhile, children are literally dying in Ukraine...

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Bejito1983 dark_gh0st_b0y (on 02 March 2022)

Why not banning every american citizens from PSN and Switch Online. Are two Nuclear bombs on civilians not enough to see them banned from everywhere. What you were not born yet ? And what about all those japanese who will never be born because USA nuked their parents ?
I'm trying my best to be at the level of dark ghost boy.

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dark_gh0st_b0y Bejito1983 (on 02 March 2022)

wtf really, we can do something about people dying as we speak, it us who live the present

people at the time have made their choices based on what they had, wrong or right, now it is us who live, and we have to make ours

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foxmccloud64 Bejito1983 (on 03 March 2022)

And people in "western countries" seem to only know about some minor things about those conflicts where USA and NATO ended up fucking other countries, lots of them are to eager to defend the joining of NATO of several countries in Europe as a meas to defend, from what? lots of us in the rest of the world still don't know, because USA and their "allies" almost always have being the ones that invaded, colonized or destroyed regions in Eurasia, Africa, LATAM, but hey they have keep destroying countries and yet, we have never saw western world asking for sanctions to their countries or their populace as they now are asking , despite this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

https://www.betterworld.info/conflict-regions/kosovo/nato-war-crimes

https://www.betterworld.info/politics/north-america/usa/presidents-administrations/g-w-bush/critical-george-w-bush/war-crimes-afghanistan-iraq

https://www.betterworld.info/politics/north-america/usa/secret-services/support-dictators-terrorists

https://www.betterworld.info/politics/north-africa/libya/uprising-2011-nato-war/nato-military-intervention-clandestine-rebel-support

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States

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dark_gh0st_b0y foxmccloud64 (on 03 March 2022)

the agrument here is not that the US has been an angel since the begin of time, I never said that I support US intervention in other already-fckedup countries, which even if you put them together still do not reach Putin

anyway, it looks like this place is hijacked by Putin's bots, there's no other explanation to justify how any sane person would support his actions

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foxmccloud64 dark_gh0st_b0y (on 03 March 2022)

This is not about supporting his actions, nor i'm a Putin bot I hope they get to a solution, and even that he gets defeated or overthrown from the russian govermente, then that he gets punished for making this worse than it is, but i see some comments encouraging "sanctions" that are practically to "take it out on people that has nothing to do with the problem" because Ukrainians are suffering, and also i'm commenting on asociated things because there seems to be a lack of more information about the problems that have been plaguing the region and that are linked to the conflict, that pertains obviously both countries since they are both neighboring, but also because the joint history of their territories and populations.

As the other user has pointed in his other downvoted or now deleted comments, even if they aren't as clear, looks like no one is aware of parts like the civillian ethnic russians that have been persecuted and killed for the past years in some regions of Ukraine, how the russian language has been criminalized in entire cities where the population does not speak Ukrainian, by using groups such as the Azov Battalion, C14 and the armed militias of rightist parties such as Pravyy sektor and Svoboda that operated freely in Ukraine with the approval of the post 2014 governments and of course, US and the NATO.

And as other user also said "Why punish regular citizens? Painting an entire country for the actions of their dictator is just as bad.", and that's certainly right, that's why I said the same about the USA, do their people need to be held accountable for the attrocities their governments and armies have commited for more than a century now?, "USA isn't an angel but even if you put togheter all the interventions they aren't as bad as Putin", don't make me laugh, just look at how NATO and US have bombarded countries like Serbia to hell, in the name of human rights and freedom, killing thousands of civilans and not only the armys of those countries, not only not "fixing" anything, but also making things worse :

“After NATO planes killed thousands of Serb and ethnic Albanian civilians, Bill Clinton was revered as a savior. Once the bombing ended, many of the Serbs remaining in Kosovo were slaughtered. NATO’s ‘peace’ also produced a quarter million Serbian, Jewish, and Gypsy refugees.”

"In 2014, a European Union task force confirmed that the ruthless group that Clinton empowered by bombing Serbia committed atrocities that included murdering persons to extract and sell their organs. The chief prosecutor of a special European Union task force, declared in 2014 that senior members of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) had engaged in unlawful killings, abductions, enforced disappearances, illegal detentions in camps in Kosovo and Albania, sex**l violence, forced displacements of individuals from their homes and communities,"

That is the supposed "defense" function the NATO have fullfilled since its founding, treathening and destroying other countries, yet there are people that still defend the "fact" that it is to protect themselves and promote "peace and stability", but hey what's to argue abut, the retard of Putin just went out to make the idiotic move of invading, instead of trying to find a better solution for the people of Russian origin or identity mostly in the Eastern sector and Crimea, and now probably all of the restant countries of Europe would join NATO, some of us are just hoping that neither Putin nor the NATO commits the idiocy to start to lauch their weapons at global scale.

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dark_gh0st_b0y foxmccloud64 (on 04 March 2022)

I don't have time to read all this at the moment, but as I said before, if Putin is not the Russian public's responsibility, then whose is it?

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foxmccloud64 dark_gh0st_b0y (on 04 March 2022)

If it just was that easy, then i guess the people in lots of regions in the world won't have suffered the injustices they have, the population of lots of our countries, despite the progressiveness in a variety of areas, have endured in one way or another the bullshit politics of the governments, not matering from what ideology they are, but also time and time again it has been show that we haven't reached a state where the governmets truly are completely or almost completely representative or egalitarian, we have improved in and lots of ways through the years and worsened in others, that's why people should understand that lots of us don't chain ourselves to cheap nationalisms or the dogmatic posture of always thinking political actors are always right, nor that they "represent" the justice for people, all the time.

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dark_gh0st_b0y foxmccloud64 (on 04 March 2022)

what do you suggest then? let Putin kill as he pleases? if it's not the Russian public that is going to stop him, then who? and at what cost?

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foxmccloud64 dark_gh0st_b0y (on 04 March 2022)

Most of european countries, USA and their allies are already giving weapons and other resources to ukrainians to repel the russian advance, the russian media has already been shut down in most countries and in the internet, they have already been financially blocked by various institutions and countries, and several of the russian oligarchs and enterprises have also been obstuctued, that seems to be going well, now important groups of athletes, scientist, artists and other sectors from the russian people themselves have already shown their dissagreement with the invasion since the very beggining, as other users have pointed out i don't think those people need to be included in the sanctions under the old pretext that "they are all controlled by the russian state", if we aren't using double standards, then USA, Israel and others should be sanctioned the same way because of the things they still continue to do to this day.

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dark_gh0st_b0y foxmccloud64 (on 05 March 2022)

is that your concern at the moment, that the USA and Israel should be sanctioned too?

I repeat, they do not commit any full-scale invasion, and if they intervene it is with 5,000 soldiers max, not 150,000 like Russia does at the moment

so yes, USA and Israel should be sanctioned with 3% of what Russia's is sanctioned, proportionate to the damage caused

are you even capable of comparing apples with apples in this place anymore?

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foxmccloud64 dark_gh0st_b0y (on 05 March 2022)

i'm not comparing apples to oranges i'm just pointing the double standards the media and some people always treat the ways the governments of the "western countries" handle lots of "problems" in the world(we know because of the US interventionism in LATAM), does that erase what Putin is doing no, but it always seems to be used as a pretext to start deflecting it into unrelated people and generate xenophobic reactions and politics, like other users have said WTF is that thing about baning vodka or russian orchestra directors? or things like this about videogames, how does that help in stoping the conflict?. And i don't know were you have been living but depending on the country we have seen numbers like this:

"When the United States led an invasion of Iraq in 2003 to oust Saddam Hussein, it did not have United Nations approval, and in fact, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan at the time called the U.S. invasion "illegal."

"The US-led invasion of Iraq began on March 20, 2003 with a force of 150,000 American troops and 23,000 soldiers from other countries involved in the initial campaign.

The capital, Baghdad, fell to coalition forces 20 days later

However, in 2006 the number of US soldiers fell to just under 127,000, with the number of foreign soldiers at around 20,000.

An escalation in insurgent activity near the end of the year prompted then-US president George W Bush to propose a surge of 21,500 additional troops into the country in January 2007.

By October that year, there were 171,00 American fighters in Iraq and 12,000 soldiers from other nations.

By the end of 2008, the total number of foreign troops in the country – including US soldiers – stood at over 151,000."

but it doesn't need to be a large force, they could be 10,000, 20,000 or 40,000 like they used to seize Panama, Haiti or Dominican republic etc., the thing is about disrupting other countries just as Russia is doing today, as some academics have noted:

"U.S. violations of international law continue. You would never know it listening to our president, our politicians or our news media, but the U.S. intervention in Syria is one of them. Michael Ratner, president emeritus of the Center for Constitutional Rights, described it as “an illegal use of force” and “a crime of aggression.”

"President Obama’s actions in Syria have been described as equivalent of Vladimir Putin’s in Ukraine—both arming rebels, conducting air strikes agravating problems in those regions".

As i pointed , I think most of the things that can be done to truly help in the conflict are already being done, like the other countries giving weapons and resources, blocking the finances of Putin and the Russian oligarchs etc.

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dark_gh0st_b0y foxmccloud64 (on 06 March 2022)

of course I condemn US and European invasion of Iraq back in 2003, but that was 20 years ago, the forces that remain now are only a few thousand, I cannot be going back in time to condemn everyone, Ukrainians are dying NOW

I cannot defend Putin's actions just because the US and West Europe were not sanctioned 20 years ago

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KratosLives dark_gh0st_b0y (on 04 March 2022)

Why doesn't israel get the same punishment for it's coninued expasion and massive land it's stolen over the years?

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dark_gh0st_b0y KratosLives (on 04 March 2022)

because everyone was doing the same thing at the time, so what's the point, Russia's war is happening as we speak, people are dying now, and we can do something NOW

welcome to the present, the past cannot be changed, keep looking back and you'll end up like Lot's wife

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Koragg (on 03 March 2022)

Why are only men forced to stay? Where's the equality? Oh I forgot, men's lives are expendable.

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Moren (on 02 March 2022)

Very literal. Never change, VGC.

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Bejito1983 (on 02 March 2022)

How can my copy/paste from Wikipedia and a jewish website can get so many dislikes ? Are people affraid of the truth ?

PS : For those who still believe in the anti-Russia propaganda : "Babi Yar Holocaust Memorial in Kyiv got bombed in an airstrike" that has just been denied, photo in support, by the French journalist Daphné Rousseau and the Israeli journalist Yediot Ahronot. Source : https://twitter.com/NeriZilber/status/1499004383031345155?cxt=HHwWhoCy9eqixM0pAAAA

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Zkuq Bejito1983 (on 02 March 2022)

Has there ever been a war without propaganda on both sides? Of course there's Ukrainian propaganda. It just seems like you're believing all the Russian propaganda instead of taking it too with a grain of salt.

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Bejito1983 Zkuq (on 02 March 2022)

I don't read nor watch russian propaganda, the non-elected european government decided to block Russia Today and Sputnik in my country (and in the whole European union) . Even if I wanted to be subjet of russian propaganda I could not. But it doesn't change much in my life since I've never consulted them.

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Amnesia (on 02 March 2022)

Just a suggestion to the webmasters, you should censor EVERY topic about this war, really.

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Azzanation CaptainExplosion (on 02 March 2022)

You think killing Putin will stop this War? Someone else will just take his place until Russia gets what they want.

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Zelenskyy, too. For his conscription policy.

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Pemalite FormerlyTeamSilent13 (on 02 March 2022)

Conscription is necessary to defend their nation.
Any other country in a similar situation all through history has done the same.

Conscription wouldn't have been necessary if they didn't have Russia's issues to deal with, blame Russia.

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FormerlyTeamSilent13 Pemalite (on 03 March 2022)

If you implement conscription you are a dictator. It's not okay for anyone to force anyone to fight a war, ever. Zelenskyy has implemented martial law and prevented people from leaving the country as refugees. He is telling people with no military experience to fight a standing army, but has shown no resolve in making peace negotiations or getting serious support from the west. Not all the citizens he is conscripting are being armed and he's even telling people to make molotov cocktails in propaganda. In other words he's setting those conscripted up for failure, sending them to die for his own ego. While he hides in his mother's basement (reads: bunker).

Putin is absolutely to blame for invading the country and displacing millions of people. He has put the world closer to WW3 than it has maybe ever been in my life. You can certainly argue Putin is worse with plenty of valid arguments, but you can only [redact] once. I hope they both are [redacted}.

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Pemalite FormerlyTeamSilent13 (on 06 March 2022)

List of free countries that have had/have conscription.

  • Australia.
  • New Zealand.
  • United Kingdom.
  • United States on 6 different occasions.
  • Canada during the 1st and 2nd world war.
  • 99% of Europe during the 1st and 2nd world war.

    Conscription happens irrespective of how "free" your nation is, you don't need a dictator... Usually the trigger point for conscription is war or the impending instance of one.

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Zkuq FormerlyTeamSilent13 (on 02 March 2022)

For a country bordering Russia, it gives you enough troops to make Russia think twice and maybe even resist an invasion if one does occur. It's practically a necessarily evil, even though it does suck. It's much easier to talk from an island country with nearly 70 million people, a strsong navy, what I suspect to be a relatively strong army, and a nuclear weapon - oh, and when your closest neighbours are your allies too. It doesn't feel quite the same when you border Russia, don't have any dependable allies, have less population, no natural barriers, and no nuclear weapon.

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You are right that conscription is unacceptable in any circumstances. It is slavery, and therefore should never be tolerated.

The only thing I can say in defense of the president of Ukraine on this issue is that he's just doing it the way that most modern countries do it. That certainly doesn't make it okay though.

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Zkuq VAMatt (on 04 March 2022)

If your neighbour is Russia, the choice might be between slavery during a crisis and oppression all the time. Living in a country neighbouring Russia, I'd much rather take the former than the latter.

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VAMatt Zkuq (on 04 March 2022)

That would cause people to volunteer, which would not make them slaves.

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Zkuq VAMatt (on 04 March 2022)

During times of peace, I doubt you could get enough volunteers to build up enough know-how unless there are very strong incentives. During a crisis, there probably won't be enough time or resources to train a huge number of people that have mostly never received any training. It's an interesting thought though, and with proper incentives could possibly even work.

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Pemalite ClassicGamingWizzz (on 02 March 2022)

Debate the points they present using logic, empathy and understanding rather than delve to their level.

People in the end are entitled to their opinions even if they are hateful and blatantly wrong, let us handle the moderation side of it.

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dark_gh0st_b0y Pemalite (on 04 March 2022)

NO, supporting a full-scale invasion that targers innocent people is NOT a matter of opinion, it is NOT OKAY

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Pemalite dark_gh0st_b0y (on 05 March 2022)

Never said you had to support it.

But you do need to respect other people on the forum.
Let us deal with the transgressions.

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dark_gh0st_b0y Ka-pi96 (on 04 March 2022)

well the alternative is that this place has turned into an utter shithole of pro-war, pro-murder hell, and if that's the case, then I'm outie for good

I can't believe this is the same place that was going crazy over George Floyd's death, and LGBT rights etc, and with all respest, those look abysmal compared to the number of deaths and destruction of lives that is taking place in Ukraine

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