Standalone Versions of Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy Delisted Ahead of Release of PS5 Collection - News
by William D'Angelo , posted on 03 January 2022 / 4,353 Views
PlayStation has now delisted the PlayStation 4 versions of Uncharted 4: A Thief's End and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy from the PlayStation Store.
Publisher Sony Interactive Entertainment and developer Naughty Dog this week announced Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection will launch for the PlayStation 5 on January 28, 2022 for $49.99 / €49.99, and later for PC via Steam and Epic Games Store in 2022.
Those that own Uncharted 4: A Thief's End, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, or Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End & Uncharted: The Lost Legacy Digital Bundle will be able to upgrade to the PS5 collection for $10 / €10 when it launches next month. PlayStation Plus members who claimed Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End via their PlayStation Plus subscription are not eligible for the upgrade.
Owners of the PS4 disc versions who upgrade will need to insert them into the PS5 every time they want to download or play the PS5 versions. PS4 disc owners who own the PS5 Digital Edition will not be able to get the PS5 version for the discounted price.
Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection does not include the multiplayer mode included in Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.
A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel dedicated to gaming Let's Plays and tutorials. You can contact the author at wdangelo@vgchartz.com or on Twitter @TrunksWD.
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Seems like all companies are following these dirty tactics to convince customers to pay for the new more expensive versions of their games
I don't feel like I've seen this from Xbox. Are you aware of any examples?
Beyond that though, I agree that this stuff is becoming increasingly common. This is a problem with moving to all digital. Right now, I can go pick up a used copy of uncharted 4 for $10. But, in future generations when discs don't exist, I'll have no option but to buy into The publishers scummy pricing schemes.
Because there aren't many (any?). For example, Microsoft released Gears of War Ultimate Edition, but still recently upgraded the regular edition Gears of War with FPS Boost for those who own that one (or buy it second-hand). Microsoft is all about get someone into the eco-system, and find compelling reasons to keep them there. Whereas Sony is always on the lookout for finding ways to nickel-and-dime their best customers.
Microsoft-owned Bethesda provided a substantial free PS5 upgrade for Doom Eternal (better visuals, horde mode, etc.). Had that been a first-party Sony game, it would have been a minimum $10 upgrade.
This adds better graphics/performance, haptic feedback, adaptive triggers and spatial audio, all that for only 10 dollars, that's not expensive. Xbox usually upgrades games for free but its just resolution and performance bump.
How does the game look on hdr?
Looks amazing actually, what's your question about, this is something you could easily find on google.
Well, at least people can always buy them physically.
Tell it to PS5 Digital owners..
Well, to be fair, they knew what they were getting into. If you're going to get an all-digital console, you know right away that you're giving up a lot of freedom. It's the price you pay.
I have no sympathy for people who buy digital only consoles, it was always a lose situation from day 1, and they were told that. There is no single advantage to a digital only console, you're just restricting yourself of options. Even if you were to only buy digital, you still lose the option of borrowing games from friends to see if you like such games, before deciding to buy them.
So PS4 only owners can no longer purchase these games digitally? What a stupid decision. The remasters is not even out yet. Sony makes so many baffling decisions as a publisher
They still can but not separately. They can only buy the bundle edition. People who own these games digitally, its still in their library so they can still download them.
If by now you still didn't get uncharted 4, its safe to say you really don't want it, its been released years ago, and its been on sale several times. What are you complaining about really?
Now what about the first three games?
Reremaster them again? The ps5 uncharted collection only has uncharted 4 and lost legacy both haven't been remastered yet. The remastered collection is still on the psn store
That would be nice, the first 3 uncharted are some of the best games ever created, they could do with some visual upgrades, I would pay for some serious texture upgrades and adaptive triggers.
I'm curious as to what they did texture wise. 60fps is worth another playthrough for me and the haptic feed back and triggers for sure. On the store it mentions better aliasing.
Mainy as a playstation user, i have to say, Sony is up to much arrogance again. Firstly we had to make with increased starting price of all their console exclusives. Next came the paid upgrade, so now we have to pay for increased graphics settings for the same game. And this happens on the same system (ps5) only from sony. All other games feature free upgrading and the same prices as on other platforms. And now comes the digital delisting...
This isn't just Sony. Greedfall, judgement, control, skyrim and many others you need to pay the fee for upgrades. Did you complain when rockstar removed the original gta trilogy and make us pay full price for the remastered trilogy? Just be glad that we don't have to pay full price for remastered games again like last gen. You don't have to upgrade. Its an option
Option not to upgrade? Ok so ill play horizon forbidden west ps4 version on my ps5. Or i pay 79.90 for ps5 version jut to get better graphics. Where is the option in this? For GTA i wont even bother since its a fiasco. ofc i didnt buy it. Now for the few games you mention like ie Control, the upgrade also gave you the expansions... Im not gonna defend those games in general since its the same as sony's strategy, Except the asking price 79.90. Should i mention all of them? You get my point.
"Im not gonna defend those games in general since its the same as sony's strategy,"
He listed Skyrim, but Skyrim Anniversary edition is absolutely free to anyone who already bought Skyrim Special edition, and Skyrim standard edition got a free FPS Boost upgrade on Xbox (and other free upgrades on PC). So Skyrim is a game on his list that IS worth defending. :)
Edit to add: Apparently I was incorrect about Skyrim Anniversary. The free update to Skyrim is the FPS Boost update on Xbox, not the Anniversary edition.
My bad i thought I heard there was a fee to upgrade skyrim turns out it was for the anniversary edition? But my point still stands. Sony aren't the only one charging a fee. Just be thankful that we have the option to pay a $10 fee for remasters instead of $40-$60 like what Sony and Nintendo were doing for PS4 and switch
You heard it right, scrapking is wrong on this, better do your research and stop listening to people on the internet.
Apparently I was wrong, my apologies. And I know I'm not perfect, and I'm pleased to have the opportunity to correct the record. I was sure I'd heard it on a Digital Foundry video (that it was a free upgrade for owners of the Special Edition), but it seems that I'm incorrect.
Perhaps I conflated that with the free FPS Boost upgrade on Xbox (which, yes, absolutely is free).
free fps boost? You are confusing it, Skyrim got a huge free upgrade to the new consoles, with new creator content too, not just fps boost. Its simple, skyrim special edition gets a free upgrade to the new consoles. You only pay if you want to upgrade to the anniversary edition.
Skyrim got a free FPS Boost upgrade. Then it got the Anniversary edition which bundles some Creator content and a new fishing mini-game. I think the fishing mini-game may be the only thing not available elsewhere. I don't think Skyrim's Anniversary edition is a particularly good deal if you already own the Special edition, but that's just me. At any rate, I do appreciate the pricing correction.
Wrong, skyrim anniversary is not free at all for no one. If you own special edition you will have to pay for anniversary upgrade.
Correct that I was wrong. Thank you for the correction.
I'm surprised, I was so sure I'd heard that in a Digital Foundry video that it was a free upgrade.
Perhaps I conflated that with the free upgrade to Doom Eternal. Perhaps I conflated it with the free FPS Boost upgrade on Xbox. Perhaps a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.
With the benefit of hindsight, Anniversary edition bundles in new content and isn't a good parallel anyway. FPS Boost/Resolution Boost games (such as the recent upgrades to the entire classic Gears of War line-up) are a closer parallel.
This is way more than a simple fps boost, both on xbox and ps5, and you also get new content, that's why I never understand people complaining, developers go to all this trouble and give us things for free, which they didn't have to and gamers complain.
When GTA5 doesn't even give us a simple upgrade to the last gen consoles (one X and ps4 pro) no one complains and everything is fine, and the new version is going to be a totally fully paid game, there's no upgrades. But people keep praising rockstar.
Doom Eternal got new content as well, at no charge. Quake just got new content, at no cost, for a 25 year old game. It's a choice whether you charge for new content or not, and there are advantages to doing it for free (goodwill with fans, keeping the player bases high) vs charging (revenue).
And good luck finding a single time I've ever praised Rockstar for anything. :)
So you do the same if you have customers? You just keep offering them things for free? Makes no sense and doesn't happen in the real world, every time I go to the suppermarket or restaurants I pay, every time I fill gas in my car I pay. Rent needs paying too.
Developers should get paid for their hard work.
When was the last time you worked several hours for free, just out of good will?
I think you're looking at the issue too narrowly. There are two ways to get more revenue: charge your existing customers more; treat your existing customers right, so that they evangelize you to new customers.
Doom Eternal came out with visual upgrades and new modes of play, absolutely for free (they even did these upgrades on PS5, despite being a Microsoft-owned studio). So no new revenue from existing customers. But perhaps those upgrades brought in new sales of the game to new customers, so offering it as a free upgrade doesn't mean it didn't earn them more sales of the game.
The price difference between ps4 and ps5 version will likely be 10 dollars. But you get extra development on the ps5 for the haptic feedback, spatial audio and adaptive triggers, so that's probably the reason.
On the xbox there is no extra development for the new console, because the controller is basically the same.
Just do like I do, wait a few months for sales, I got most games on ps5 for 30-40 dollars including ratchet and clank, demon souls, returnal, and some other games for 25 dollars such as resident evil, assassins creed, yakuza. And most of those I got like 5 months after launch.
I can wait for games because I have an impossible backlog, in fact most those games I still haven't played as I'm too busy.
There is sometimes still extra development time. Sometimes it's as simple as uncapping the frame rate, sure. Other times the developer needs to do play-testing to decide what resolution to move up to, what frame-rate to move up to, whether to incorporate higher-resolution assets that had been created for the PC version, whether to change draw distances (and, if so, by how much), whether to change LOD such as foliage, etc., etc., etc.
But you're probably right that they're usually less work than a PS5 upgrade, and perhaps that's why there are SO many more games upgrades for Series X|S than upgraded for PS5.
When you talk draw distance, textures and all that, you're talking remaster not just a simple update. I cant remember a single game that got that treatment for free last generation. PS4 pro and xbox one X got just fps boost and resolution upgrades. Unless they're really generous.
In the case of the new upgrade to uncharted that will happen but also new features that never existed in the game such as spatial audio, haptic feedback, adaptive triggers.
There's not many more games with upgrades for xbox, do your research, games from last generation its about even on the upgrades. The advantage on xbox is they went further with the backwards compatibility of 360 and original xbox. Ninja Gaiden sure was great to replay it with nicer visuals.
But that's the thing, xbox had to do it because they were so behind on games, there was literally nothing to play when they started the backwards compatibility when ps4 was having amazing exclusives one after the other non stop. Sony invested in the future, Microsoft invested in the past, can you guess what's more expensive and takes way more work? New games. Example, the new spiderman was way more work than picking an old game and bump resolution to 4k.
Other example, I am currently playing dragon age inquisition, its still amazing even tough there's no update, and I am also enjoying Returnal, I am happier having both rather than if they just updated the old game and didn't make new ones.
This generation xbox improved with games, but just a bit, in a full year there was 2 great games, not really ideal with a new generation. PS5 still is the best place for games, stuff like ghost of tsushima, death stranding, spiderman, ratchet, demon souls, sackboy, returnal, God of war, final fantasy 7 remake, the last of us 2, days gone and many more look absolutely amazing on the ps5 and excellent games. Some of these games were game of the year, xbox doesn't have that.
Ori on xbox is amazing, but I got both on my switch, and I am not into forza horizon as I prefer a simulator. So for me xbox would only have Halo infinite and upgrades on old games.
It seems like there are a lot more upgraded for Series X|S games than there are upgraded for PS5 games. I don't mean games that just happen to run better under back-compat, I mean back-compat+ games actually modified to recognize they're running on the new hardware and adjust accordingly. Digital Foundry and others have indicated that Microsoft's back-compat+ tools may be easier and/or more robust for developers to use than Sony's, though that's admittedly subjective and/or speculative.
What's objective is that Major Nelson lists over 400 optimized for X|S games: https://majornelson.com/optimized-for-series-xs/
And there are definitely some games enhanced first for the "pro" consoles, and now for current-gen consoles, that are enhanced at no cost to levels equal to or greater than what some games are charging for. One example would be Jedi Fallen Order that first got back-compat+ patches, and then additionally got an upgrade to native code on both PS5 and Series X|S, all at no charge at every stage.
I'd be surprised if the upgrades coming to Uncharted 4 exceed the upgrades we got for free on Jedi Fallen Order.
Can you give examples? I remember metal gear 5 is enhanced on the ps4 pro and not on the xbox one X. Assassins creed ezio collection and syndicate is another example, firewatch,dark souls 3, Black ops 3, shadow of mordor is another, maybe they already patched these on xbox I dont know, but mid-gen console updates seems to be about the same on both consoles.
What do you mean jedi fallen order? It was always enhanced and on the ps5 compatible since day 1.
There were some games that got enhancements on PS4 Pro before the One X came out that didn't subsequently get One X enhancements. After that, for third-party stuff usually both got enhancements if either did (though One X enhancements were sometimes more substantial due to it significantly exceeding the horsepower of the PS4 Pro).
There are three levels of enhancement on the current-gen consoles:
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running under back-compat, and getting some automatic enhancement from the OS (auto HDR, AA, that kind of thing)
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"back-compat plus" enhancement, where the game knows it's running under back-compat on better hardware, and gets bespoke enhancements due to actual code changes, but it's still an entirely last-gen code base
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being ported to native code for current-gen consoles
Jedi: Fallen Order is an example of a game that got all three levels of enhancement. Initially it got some enhancement running on regular back-compat. Then it got a back-compat+ patch. Then it got ported to the new consoles as well. All absolutely for free. Had the back-compat+ step been skipped, and they'd gone from regular back-compat right to the native code step, I think they'd be offering similar value to what some people are charging $10+ for in their uprgrades.
Here's a Digital Foundry/Eurogamer article that discusses it:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-patch-tested
Dark Souls 3 didn't get a One X upgrade, but it instead got a significant upgrade on Series X|S:
https://outgamers.com/dark-souls-3-gets-major-upgrade-on-xbox-series-x/#:~:text=Dark%20souls%203%20has%20gotten%20a%20new%20upgrade,it%20to%20do%20twice%20as%20better%20as%20before.
My point wasn't that One X got more upgraded games than PS4 Pro. I don't think that's true. I have seen it repeatedly suggested that "Optimized for X|S" is more common than titles receiving bespoke (rather than automatic) upgrades for PS5. Over 400 titles are listed as Optimized for X|S, and I'm looking for a similar list on PS5 but haven't found one yet.
Everybody complained about the rock star delisting
EDIT TO ADD: It turns out that while the FPS Boost update for Skyrim on Xbox was free, the Anniversary edition of the game is not a free upgrade. The rest of what I say below is correct, however.
Skyrim Anniversary Edition is absolutely free to anyone who already owns the Skyrim Special Edition. Yes, even on PlayStation, despite Bethesda being owned by Microsoft.
And both the standard and special editions got a free back-compat+ upgrade on Xbox Series consoles that added FPS Boost, among other improvements.
So your claim that Skyrim is an example of "you need to pay the fee for upgrades" is incorrect.
Microsoft-owned id Software also provided a huge free upgrade to Doom Eternal that added improved visuals, a "horde" mode, and more.
Hell, id Software recently provided a significant content upgrade to the original Quake, absolutely for free, 25 years later!
So, no, not everyone is doing this. I don't mind paying for a special edition that bundles in new content, such as DLC that used to only be sold separately. But for this, which sounds like a back-compat+ upgrade, I do object to paying more for.
PC and Xbox players rarely have to pay more just to play a game in higher-res/framerate, that is rapidly becoming mostly a PlayStation thing.
Wrong, a quick 5 seconds google search could have save you the embarrassment.
Xbox players do not pay for upgrades, not even for the haptic feedback or adaptive triggers, its all free, yeah.
I experience no embarrassment. I'm not perfect, and don't expect perfection from myself (or others). If you are feeling embarrassment on my behalf, perhaps you hold yourself and/or others up to an impossible to live up to standard. I'd prefer to thank you for the correction instead, and there's no reason for either of us to try to shame the other or feel ashamed.
No one is shaming anyone, you kept mentioning the wrong info several times, I only corrected each time, but honestly people should know what they are talking about here because others will read this and take the info.
I appreciated your correction, it is important to me that I'm citing correct information.
Speaking of citing correct information, you didn't just correct me, you also added this little gem:
"...a quick 5 seconds google search could have save you the embarrassment."
So by no reasonable measure IMO is it accurate for you to claim that you only corrected me.
I don't understand, you want upgrades for free? Why? Why would developers spend money and time to improve games for free? If it was a simple resolution bump to 4k then I'd understand.
I do agree with you on the increased price of games, I don't agree if you live in USA as its only a 10 dollar increase, which is fair, it was about time due to inflation.
But I agree if you are from the UK, as the increase in price is like 32 dollars per game. Example I have the base GT7 on preorder and it cost 92 dollars as that's the price of all Sony ps5 games. That's more than 50% increase in price. I just wait for sales.
To be fair xbox games also increased in price in the UK. New games are 74 dollars, so that's a 14 dollars increase too. A bit more acceptable than 92 dollars.
Agreed. The Remasters don't even include multi-player. Bogus move.
Only the stand-alone version are removed. There's still the bundle edition digitally. The bundle is $40 and you pay a fee of $10 to upgrade both
Yep and its not like they are charging the full price $60 for the bundle. I beat the heck out of uncharted 4 and lost legacy so $40 for both games is an awesome deal for people who haven't played them. Uncharted 4 alone is worth $40.
