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VGKing
posted 10/03/2012, 07:09
Should definitely reach 10mil within the next 2-3 years. This is selling better than GTA IV in the same time period. GTA IV is already in at 9mil and will reach 10 sometime in 2013. Message | Report |
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WebMasterFlex
posted 10/03/2012, 09:12
PS3 games are long term sells. Look at LittleBigPlanet,, it's going 5 million, I remember many people said it won't reach 2. Same with U2 & U3 which will go 6 for U2 and 7 ofr U3 Message | Report |
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WebMasterFlex
posted 10/03/2012, 09:08
"Honestly I don't see how it can reach 10M" I Can see it but it will take time. New PS3 buyers in Europe oftenly take GT5 with. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/03/2012, 10:34
GT5 did not even sold 500k in the past 4 or 5 months and this includes holiday sales, new spec II version, new XL edition and bundles in several european countries. Honestly I don't see how it can reach 10M. Sales tend to decrease with time not increase. I would be curious to hear about this...but please don't come with the heavy bundling scenario! lol Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/03/2012, 10:22
@AnarchyWest I don't care about the game but about the sales. A lot of people predicted some crazy numbers in the past few years and now that they are proved wrong, it's interesting to come here and see what they are thinking now. Unfortunately most of them are still in delusion. Btw I own a PS2 and I'm also a PC gamer :) Message | Report |
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WebMasterFlex
posted 09/03/2012, 09:22
10 million in 2 years probably. PS3 still have 5 years to live I think. I wouldn't be surprise if GT6 come out on PS3. Message | Report |
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AnarchyWest
posted 09/03/2012, 01:14
atma998 as someone who is exclusive to nintendo why do you care so much about GT5 so much? Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 06/03/2012, 04:05
@ieatbabies you're talking a load of rubbish, drop the fanboy crap you're lowering the tone for people who appretiate quality (GT5). maybe 1 day forza might have sales that equel GT's only that wont happen for another 3 years minimum, yep thats right no forza 5 in 2 years turn 10 are working on a different game. anyway rather than turn this into a debate about forza 4 as no one really gives a shit about it cause it doesnt pose a threat to GT5's sales can we move on. thank you. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 06/03/2012, 03:57
It was first ''GT5 will be the best selling GT ever'' and then ''it will reach at least 10 million'', then ''it will reach 10 million LT'' and now ''probably reach 10 million one day'' lol @ethomaz Is this not precisely what is going wrong, the game is only selling ''good'' while bundled, not great as a main franchise like GT should do. How many 25k weeks to reach 10 million again? Message | Report |
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IEATBABIES
posted 06/03/2012, 03:44
Turn 10 fan boys can inflate their ego's all they want by saying "Forza is the best franchise ever, PS3 sux Gran Turismo 5 is poo" etc etc. Fact of the matter is, Gran Turismo has history on each generation of Sony made consoles. Microsoft fan boys can only wish Turn 10 had Polyphony's sales. never will happen. Even if Turn 10 started at the same time as Polyphony, it wouldn't matter. It's like Microsoft fan boys only bought this game just to brag and yet Forza Motorsport 4 hasn't even hit 2 million. If it was the biggest thing since the coming of Jesus Christ it would have double what Gran Turismo 5 has. I'm not a Sony fan boy, but I'm just typing the truth. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 05/03/2012, 03:15
25k this week... selling like first year of good games. Message | Report |
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WebMasterFlex
posted 05/03/2012, 08:41
lol that is all what you got ? Bundled in France ? GT always sell a lot. GT5 is doing the same, it will probably reach 10 million one day. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 03/03/2012, 12:00
Still bundled... Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 02/03/2012, 05:02
@atma998 I think the bundle is just for France. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 02/03/2012, 01:21
@dsage01 GT5 is currently bundled in Europe. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 26/02/2012, 03:29
Forza 4 might be able to do another 3 million but only with massive bundling just like how Forza 2, 3 and now Forza 4 are being bundled heavily. Really GT5 has hardly even being bundled and your comparing it to a game that only sells by being extensivley bundled? Even with the extensive bndling and large marketing Forza 4 won't be able to come near the GT franchise. There's a reason why it can still sell 30k a week without bundling. Message | Report |
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WebMasterFlex
posted 26/02/2012, 07:33
This game is going to do 10 million. Do not want to troll but Forza 4 can't even reach GT5 Prologue sells Message | Report |
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Alby_da_Wolf
posted 24/02/2012, 10:19
Ooops! I was quite late.  Message | Report |
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Alby_da_Wolf
posted 24/02/2012, 12:18
Didn't anybody notice PD updated again its shipments numbers? GT5 is now 7.43M as of Dec 2011, previously, IIRC, it was 7.3M as of Sep 2011. So PD did some more shipments since then, and even though they surely shipped some more than necessary, as nobody sane would risk shortages for Xmas, shouldn't at least those previous 7.3M be all sold to end users by now? Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 19/02/2012, 11:20
i still think some people are stupid, isnt the right michael-5, just gotta love the comments you left on forza 4 eh "I think Forza 4 will get another 3 million sales, that should make the sales difference between 3 Forza's and 3 GT's almost nothing. Good observation, surprised for being a smaller name, Forza can still match GT in sales. Guess the quality difference got to people." and not forgetting "Compensating? and people say I write a lot.Forza 4 is still the best Sim this gen, sales =/= quality, and brand names are for fools." lmfao. Message | Report |
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miqdadi
posted 19/02/2012, 08:11
I still think 10M within reach, Just look at the prologue sales, the least this can do is 8M Message | Report |
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Dahum
posted 18/02/2012, 08:02
not to forget i didn't purchase my own copy yet which i will very soon;) Message | Report |
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Dahum
posted 18/02/2012, 08:00
this game is in another league of its own when it comes to the sales.... this game is so popular & has great legs and according to its sales pattern it will surpass 10 million copies and maybe reach 11 million considering the PS4 isn't coming anytime soon according to Sony which will give plenty of room for GT5 unlike GT4. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 17/02/2012, 01:56
@Michael... I already lost this battle  Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 17/02/2012, 01:46
Ocarina of Time got adjusted down 600k....how can you research the root cause, VGC staff aren't telling us anything......still going to loose our bet, 7 weeks of data left, 1.3 million to go! Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/02/2012, 12:13
@Ethomaz Don't know which version of all these games you have looked at but none of the ones I have looked got adjusted down by 100-300k. Also how can you verify this? Can you provide me links of adjustment of a game that has been adjusted for example? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/02/2012, 12:13
@Ethomaz Don't know which version of all these games you have looked at but none of the ones I have looked got adjusted down by 100-300k. Also how can you verify this? Can you provide me links of adjustment of a game that has been adjusted for example? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 15/02/2012, 10:55
@atma998 MW3, Skrym, Batman, FIFA, Zelda, Mario, etc... etc... almost all game has been adjusted... the TOP20 from last week is all adjusted down... If I'm not wrong just one game was adjusted UP. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 14/02/2012, 03:52
@ethomaz I looked more than 10 other big titles and no one got adjusted down... What do you mean by ''almost all games'' ? Which one got adjusted down? Message | Report |
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Cold Light
posted 13/02/2012, 07:57
Soon it will pass NFS: Underground (best seller of NFS franchise at 7.20 M) and become 9th best selling racing game of all time. Nice ;) How much time will this game take to hit 8 M copies? About one year? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/02/2012, 12:18
@atma998 almost all games were adjusted 100-300k down this week... I thing that's some thing about the VGC algorithm for estimate the unknown countries sales... I'm still researching the root cause .Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 11/02/2012, 01:45
Adjusted down by 90k by the way... Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 10/02/2012, 01:20
48k this week... really nice. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/02/2012, 03:12
@ethomaz Probably with the new japanese Spec II version, european bundles and XL edition in NA. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 08/02/2012, 03:42
21k this week just in Japan... near 50k WW? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 07/02/2012, 10:26
@osamanobama No, the utterly ridiculous one here is you since you're the one who does not get the fact that there was indeed hundreds of thousand units on shelves ready for Q4 sales. Now that the holidays are over there are still around 300k+ units on shelves which is also OK and yes overtracking is also possible unless you're too much of a fanboy to recognize it. That said, I was indeed right but I don't expect you or people like you to admit it anyway. Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 07/02/2012, 06:49
you realize this has been adjusted up recently, also no you were wrong, they shipped more after September. and you were claiming it was overtracked, utterly ridiculous. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 07/02/2012, 03:41
Seems I was right after all :) Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 06/02/2012, 01:54
Shipment update: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=139657 (7.43m by Dec 2011) Message | Report |
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enditall727
posted 04/02/2012, 07:52
only 2,784,667 to go ;) Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 03/02/2012, 07:07
Amazing sales! Just keeps going along.. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 03/02/2012, 03:59
Over 30k this week (in January = EPIC) Message | Report |
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Santacruz
posted 31/01/2012, 05:44
new bundle in france include gran turismo 5 =) http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B006WQPDAI/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d2_g63_i4?pf_rd_m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1K18JRH9MS6FRB3QEB9T&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375533&pf_rd_i=405320 maybe it get a small boost in france then :D Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 31/01/2012, 02:23
@Genera1MLD I'm playing the game... a lot... and the people here cares about GT5 like every other gamer except you .Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 30/01/2012, 09:08
i couldnt care less what position its in, just play the game rather than spending all your time here fighting fanboys. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 30/01/2012, 01:51
Again in almost every chart in Europe... 34th in UK. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 29/01/2012, 04:45
26k this week Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 26/01/2012, 08:25
I would expect 7.4 million by now. According to VGC we haven't even surpassed out first shipment (Europe) and now they decided to ship a couple hundred grand more copies? And this is data as of Spetember 2011 where the sales were still surfing at 6 million. So I think as of this date the sales should be: Europe: 4.1 million (off track) Japan: 600k + (on track) North America: 1.8 million (on track) Global: 7.4 million (Extra 900k for the rest of the world) *Overtracked by 250k* I could be slightly off however I'm basing these on VGC, Media Crate, NPD, chart track and PD. It is severly undertracked in Germany, U.K. with the data we've got so far. More data will come soon. Message | Report |
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Jansky8
posted 25/01/2012, 11:08
So ethomaz at how much would you estimate the globale sales? Message | Report |
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Boutros
posted 24/01/2012, 03:18
roflmao Message | Report |
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Aj_habfan
posted 24/01/2012, 12:33
Calm down now Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 24/01/2012, 12:24
GT5 sold more than 500k in Germany too... http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=139114 Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 24/01/2012, 12:08
Seems undertracked in UK... GFK shows it selling 200k+ in 2011... VGC shows 91k. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 24/01/2012, 12:03
New sales page... COOL! Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 23/01/2012, 06:30
The page sales changed... 1,800,512 in 2011. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 23/01/2012, 02:41
Again in TOP40 UK chartz. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 21/01/2012, 04:18
@Fufinu yes... the game is GT5. Message | Report |
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Fufinu
posted 21/01/2012, 12:29
Will XL be counted as the same as this? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 20/01/2012, 11:57
Sold 19k this week... next week XL Edition boost. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 20/01/2012, 05:33
@jester2358 because the Platinum Edition launched in Sep... I guess when the shipment of Platinum was sold the XL/Spec 2.0 Edition will come to Europe. Message | Report |
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Serious_frusting
posted 20/01/2012, 04:02
lol at people who said this game would sell 6-7 million Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 20/01/2012, 03:13
Dlc support for this game is impressive , and I can't see gt6 being released on ps3, a ps4 launch title is more likely. PD is likely working on a vita GT. ethomaz is right on the shipments for Xl the next PD software update will be slightly inflated due to them shipping out the new edition . No idea why they aren't doing one in Europe Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 19/01/2012, 04:19
The new Seasonal Events are the hardest ever... I have to try and use so many car and modifications to win the race. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 19/01/2012, 04:17
The Lamborghini Aventador is another most to have in the game now... I played more than 5 hours of GT5 today just because the update and DLCs. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 19/01/2012, 04:16
The new SpeedTest using the Route X is Absolutely AWESOME! And the regenerative braking and other features added to electric cars make it even more realistic... PD even increased the sound of the game. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 19/01/2012, 04:13
About he sales in NA... the PD shipped 1,830k til end of September... I think the release of the XL Edition just show us the 1.8m shipped is already sold... more 300-500k for XL Edition in NA in this quarter (end of March)... so 2.5m is easy. And GT5 just for PS4... PD is adding more features and simulations for GT5 in each update... so the GT5 is definitive for PS3. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 19/01/2012, 04:09
@CGI I think the XL Edition will be counted here because the Spec III for GT5:P was counted in GT5:P and the PD never counted these editions like a new game. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 18/01/2012, 12:40
@CGI USA sales are currently at 1.6M, there is no chance it reach 2.8M. The game is barely selling few thousands a week here in the US. Get real! Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 17/01/2012, 10:05
@ethomaz No, it was really 7.126M. But anyway 13k or 17k isnt a big deal of a difference...and still pretty low sales. Hopefully XL edition is around the corner. Message | Report |
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gipsy_jack
posted 17/01/2012, 08:43
Sales are 0 k in Japan since many week. I can't believe this. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 17/01/2012, 02:19
GT5 sold 17k this week. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 17/01/2012, 02:19
@atma998... 7.126 is rounded to 7.13... after adjustments the number showed here was 7.12 or 7.122... befere that it was 7.128... sorry your numbers are off. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/01/2012, 11:00
@ethomaz I took the numbers AFTER the adjustment of last week = 7.126M, then VGC added last week numbers = 13k, which makes the total sales = 7.139M. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/01/2012, 11:00
@ethomaz I took the numbers AFTER the adjustment of last week = 7.126M, then VGC added last week numbers = 13k, which makes the total sales = 7.139M. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 16/01/2012, 12:54
The is adjusted down 6k before this week... the number was 1.22m. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 14/01/2012, 05:23
The game was at 7,126M after the adjustment of last week and is now at 7,139M. 7,139M - 7,126M = 13k...no? Message | Report |
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John_Doe
posted 14/01/2012, 10:42
lol 13k here is top 4 (biggest videogame store in spain) below MW3, hdmi cable and a headset http://www.game.es/ Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 14/01/2012, 03:23
Anyway... where did you got that 13k??? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 14/01/2012, 03:22
@atma998 sold 17,989 last week or the week before XL Edition release... next week good sales again. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 13/01/2012, 10:14
Sold 13k last week. Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 13/01/2012, 02:11
still undertracked.... by a lot. just wait for PD to update their numbers Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/01/2012, 12:19
atma998 VGC overtracked 360 by 1 million in December... these numbers ans other for software are wrong... waiting more adjustments... even for GT5. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 12/01/2012, 11:28
but, but... it's impossible, this game cannot be overtracked!!! Now can we just calm down and trust VCG instead of stating each week it's undertracked. VGC know their stuff....better than all of us! Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 12/01/2012, 10:16
Yeap... down 6,689 in December. Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 12/01/2012, 04:52
this just got adjusted down? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 11/01/2012, 06:09
Guys... more content to GT5: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=138678 Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 11/01/2012, 06:09
@jester2358 nothing for europe yet... anyway the Platinum editium is new there. Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 11/01/2012, 02:28
thanks for the info ethomaz, if it has the re5gold effect it might make gt5 pass 1 million in japan. any confirmation on a similar re-release in europe? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 10/01/2012, 11:45
@ethomaz you're right about the 6.62M (I diddnt know how to retrieve old sales data), however it doesnt change my point as 680k is also very plausible. As for the 1.3M, I don't think the adjustment was that big (1.3M - 680k = 620k) but anyway I don't get the point of bringing back this number (1.3M) as it does not make part of the calculation anymore. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 10/01/2012, 04:53
My mistake... the japanese version is set to release in 12th Febuary. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 10/01/2012, 04:53
@jester2358 the Spec II Japan version is confirmed to release in 20th January. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 10/01/2012, 04:38
GO GT5!!! hopefully with XL edition by the end of the year, will reach 10M XD Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 09/01/2012, 10:34
Xl edition should give it a good boost, hopefully they release that edition in Europe and Japan as well . I wonder if it will do as well as re5s gold edition in Japan . Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 09/01/2012, 06:18
yes thnking this game is overtraked and not undertracked is stupid. you are right Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 09/01/2012, 01:23
@atma998... here: http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40818/Global/ and the GT5 was been adjusted in the last three weeks... before that when the PD numbers was updated the shipped/sold gap for End of Sep was 1.3m... today (after adjustments) is 680k... I'm not giving my opinion here just showing raw data (VGC and PD). Message | Report |
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Ham_Burgular
posted 09/01/2012, 12:51
Fifas European sales are much more impressive than this games. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/01/2012, 06:27
@osamanobama: We agree on this! Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 09/01/2012, 05:45
the stupidity in this thread is unbelievable Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/01/2012, 03:28
@Ethomaz Where did you get your 6.62M? And where are you taking your 1.3M too? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 09/01/2012, 03:08
@atma998 a little help: 7.3m (PD) - 6.62m (VGC) = 680k... that's after adjustments... before the shipped/sold gag was 1.3m. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 08/01/2012, 06:06
Jeez, no one is talking about 1.3M!!! PD says they have shipped 7.3M as of September, at that time VGC tracked about 6.75M sold or so which means about 550k copies on shelves at that time, which makes sense, considering the franchise and the holiday boost just around the corner. The game may even be overtracked! Honestly you guys are just way too much! I never changed my line of thinking. I guess it's impossible to put some sense into you as you will always claim the game is undertracked no matter what... At least just stop pulling out numbers from a hat or talking about ''fact'' without any proof to back it up, that way you will all lmore credible! Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 07/01/2012, 10:25
@atma998: So in September it would make sense to have 1,3M of inventorie but now 170k is the stock and is also normal??? Please what is normal for you? To change the line of thinking from one post to another even if they are only a few minutes apart? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 07/01/2012, 09:49
@obamanobama Can you please provide links of your so-called ''facts''? Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 07/01/2012, 07:02
so a game that sells 60k a week during the Christmas season and 25k during the rest of the year will have hundreds of thousands of copies sitting on shelves, and stores will just accept this? taking up precious space on shelves and inventory. and Sony will just ship 6 months of supply because the can, with no need to make another shipment? its brand new games, that sell 100k copies per week that have hundreds of thousands on shelves not games that sell a 1/3 of that. im telling you for a fact that Sony did not ship 6 months worth of Gt5. im telling you for a FACT that it has sold that shipment, its been more than 3 months. im telling you for a fact that Sony has made another shipment since (one stores would not accept if there were still 100's of thousands of copies on shelves. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 07/01/2012, 04:49
@dsage01 Please stop making a fool of yourselves. 7.3M-7.13M = 170k. Sony might have shipped some more games since September but nowhere near a million that's for sure. As for the Europe numbers, this is very obvious VGC and PD do not track Europe the same way. As far as global sales goes VGC seems right on the spot... So call me a hater as long as you want, now you're just proving us that you are either totally blind or just unable to understand basic logic. It must be hard to be such a supporter... Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 07/01/2012, 01:01
It's obvious that this is horribly undertracked in Europe. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 07/01/2012, 01:00
@atma998 1.2 million on shelves according to 3 month old data! Either you really hate this game or you love to hate on the PS3 and PS3 games (Which I have seen you do earlier). Really there is no use arguing with you. We're only going to waste our time. Message | Report |
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Colocho
posted 07/01/2012, 12:29
How is this game tracking compared to GT4? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 06/01/2012, 11:49
@osamanobama: As I replied to you earlier, games like GT5 have indeed several hundreds of thousand copies sitting on shelves as they are available in larger quantity and in much more locations too. We can see huge discrepencies between shipped and sale figures for all major releases of the big three and other big third party titles as well. You can easily find out by yourself in comparing numbers reported by these companies with actual VGC numbers. But maybe it's easier for you to just being in a denial mode. Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 06/01/2012, 10:33
recent shipped numbers? you mean numbers that are over 3 months old, of which according to this site they still havent sold, nor will they until March.... 6 months after the shipment. it looks spot on to you because you are delusional. why would they ship enough copies of GT5 to last them 6 months without the need to make even 1 more shipment. Why would stores want hundreds of thousands of copies of GT5 on their shelves when it will is selling less than 60k per week, and soon less than 40k. know with GT5 XL coming out, they will have like what 500k+ sitting on shelves? logic is a good thing, use it. Message | Report |
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John_Doe
posted 05/01/2012, 04:19
RECENT shipped numbers?? Message | Report |
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Santacruz
posted 04/01/2012, 10:27
@kowenicki 1m in europe on shelves ur right! Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 03/01/2012, 03:18
It shipped 4.5 million in Europe and sold less than 3.4 million? And its still in the top 40 in most/some European charts. It's almost certainly undertracked in Europe. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 03/01/2012, 03:15
Possible undertracked in Europe and overtracked in the "others cataogry. I doubt it sold over 1.4 million over there. Message | Report |
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UnknownFact
posted 31/12/2011, 09:01
t* Message | Report |
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UnknownFact
posted 31/12/2011, 09:00
My brother just bough it. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 31/12/2011, 05:23
7.15 million by the end of this year. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 31/12/2011, 03:27
65,629 this week. Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 31/12/2011, 12:41
undertracked by around 250k Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 31/12/2011, 12:15
Byt the way it seems it sould 70k this week, I hoped for more this month to reach at least 7,25M as a middle point of my prevision back in january (between 7~7,5M) but it's okay it'll keep seeling... if after New Year it can keep more than 10k weekly then it sure is HUGE LEGS Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 31/12/2011, 12:13
@atma998: Sure they will. And I still think it's possible (maybe need some bundling), but to be assured it is impossible to reach 10M I can't agree... and as ethomaz said first the PD data that is updated refers to a previous period (September I think is what he said). Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 30/12/2011, 09:59
@DonFerrari Don't worry VGC will update if there is indeed overtracking/undertracking as they did in the past. As of now PD published their numbers two weeks ago and there is still no update so maybe they were just spot on, don't you think? As for the 10M, well I honestly don't have anything more to say as the weekly numbers are speaking for themselves...won't reach it for sure without any big bundle but be free to think it will reach 10 or even 15 million like some other user here, I don't really care. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 30/12/2011, 11:33
1 year after release do you think 6 months of supply is common? So ok more power to you... because as it seems here you are the one that know all, because everybody else have another opinion... But I guess it's more your hope that GT5 never sells 10M than the reality... and you mix games that sell 5M, 10M and 25M as the same range of shelve stock after one year??? I can't see a game selling 20k and another selling 100k needing the same stock, seriously... and I don't know how to track, but everytime community complained about undertracking and people like you said it was because of stock (PS3 having 2M and Xbox 360 having 200k were normal for those guys) after 1 or 2 months VGC corrects the sales closer to reality, but be blind if you want. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 28/12/2011, 09:50
@DonFerrari: Read again, it's the same thing for any other big titles, but I guess you know more than VGC how to track game sales...so nevermind. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 28/12/2011, 10:33
@atma998: If GT5 had 1M in inventaries along the world during february to july I could understand because they could be left overs from holiday season / debut... but to have this many in shelves when the game sells around 20k a week, more than 6 months of sales sitting on shelves doesn't see that accurate... but whatever any spin you can give to say GT5 numbers is bad or to prove it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to hit 10M without BIG BUNDLING you do... so nevermind. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 26/12/2011, 04:20
@osamanobama Absolutely and it's the same pattern for every other games. Every other big games (Halo, Mario, Skyrim, CoD, Pokemon, WSR, etc.) have several hundreds of thousand copies sitting on shelves as they are available in larger quantity and in much more locations too. Unfortunately, no knowledgeable VGC user on this page will tell you this truth even if they know that because of some poor and blinded fanboyism. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 26/12/2011, 03:52
@atma998. End of September. 7.3 million shipped - 6.6 million sold (the was adjusted UP again) = .700k on shelves... now it's fine (after adjustments). Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 26/12/2011, 06:07
@atm so you are saying that they shipped 7.3 million as of 3 months ago, and still havent sold though that shipment, and at the pace its going now it wont sell all of that shipment until past march of next year. so you are saying they have shipped enough supply to last them 6 months, and that this site is OVER-tracking this game? that is just nuts. that means they woud have absolutely no need to ship even 1 more copy of GT5 until March 2012. and stores will have just hundreds of thousands of copies of GT5 sitting on the store shelves for 6 months, and not recieve another shipment. its very clear that this game has sold more than 7.3 million. and when this site will show thats this games sales to be around 7.1 million by the end of the year, and the games september shipments to be 7.3 million, and then PD will show its December shipments t be over 7.6 million, what will you say? will it still be over tracked? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 23/12/2011, 10:06
@Ethomaz: Again, 7.3M - 6.96M = 340k copies on shelves, plus what have been shipped since September. No one is talking about 1.4 million except yourself. On another note, the game weekly sales went down to 60k this week but still allowed the game to reach 7 million! Now 8 million will be a looooooong road. Message | Report |
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Ham_Burgular
posted 23/12/2011, 03:26
Not bad. Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 23/12/2011, 03:23
7million :) well deserved! Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 23/12/2011, 03:04
1.4 million on shelves is ok just for launched titles. Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 22/12/2011, 11:37
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atma998
posted 22/12/2011, 10:14
@Jester Did I say ''few'' hundred thousands? No, I said ''several'' hundred thousand, which could imply 1 million and more. Please learn to read. Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 22/12/2011, 06:16
which is it atma? do big games like gt5 have more than a million on shelves like you stated a few posts down or do they only have a few hundred thousand as your claiming now? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 21/12/2011, 09:48
Well even 1 year old big titles have several hundred thousands units on shelves. This is just common knowledge. Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 21/12/2011, 05:38
@atma is makes sense for skyrim to have millions on shelves considering its selling 900k+ a week. GT5...is not so those stocking numbers aren't needed. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 21/12/2011, 01:22
In Asia and "Global it looks overtracked (by 500k at least) But in Europe it looks undertracked by at least 600-650k based on PD's shipment info) I doubt retaliers would shipt in so many copies it even it even selling that well. Another factor to conisder is PD doesn't include, South, America, Austraila an Africa so maybe push the sales up 200k. Mind you theses are not actual sales I'm giving info of just estimates according to my calculations. We will just have to wait for the next PD shipment numbers to come out. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 21/12/2011, 01:11
Sorry change that to 100-150k. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 21/12/2011, 01:10
Probably undertracked by 300k - 400k ust an estimate though. Most likely in Europe Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 20/12/2011, 10:45
I have no idea... launch titles have more in channel than old titles... GT5 is a old title with new versions coming (Spec II, Platinum)... so the units in shelves is lesser than new lunched titles... and for other big games I don't know because just PD show the shipped figures, no other company do the same thing. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 20/12/2011, 10:02
@Ethomaz Yes this is my argument to explain the discrepancy between both Europe numbers as this is the one making sense. But I don't expect someone like you or jester to understand this as you knopw that the game would be undertracked even before PD numbers came out. Oh and you did not answer my question... how many copies do you think other big first party or any other major titles are sitting on shelves? I give you a clue: Skyrim has shipped 10 million unit and sold less than 7 million so far... Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 20/12/2011, 09:01
obviously not all the million plus are sold , but I'd say we are at least a few hundred thousand short here if not more. but alas we have to wait for the next PD shipment info to once again silence the haters and more importantly cure my curiosity. Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 20/12/2011, 08:49
ah yes thank you ethomaz for the correction, forgot the shipment was from september. I would guess that since the americas and japan seem to have sold through on their shipments since then that europe would be close to doing the same. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 20/12/2011, 04:06
Just to you know... VGC adjusted every week of GT5 for accuracy and still seems under. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 20/12/2011, 04:05
@atma998 that's your argument for 1.4 million on shelves just in Europe??? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 20/12/2011, 04:03
@jester2358 for end of september VGC had GT5 at 3,084,509 in Europe (http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40818/Europe/)... so 1.4 million on shelves... undertracked. Message | Report |
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postofficebuddy
posted 20/12/2011, 01:09
6.96 is what we have it at now. The PD numbers are as of September. We had it at about 6.5 million back then. And a lot more have been shipped out since then anyway because September was before the launch of the GT5/Uncharted 2 bundle in Europe. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 20/12/2011, 12:22
VGC Europe doesnt count as many countries as PD Europe obviously. Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 19/12/2011, 11:30
its actually 4.5M-3.3M = more than a million on shelves in europe, according to PDs numbers. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 19/12/2011, 10:09
@Ethomaz, 7.3M - 6.96M = 340k copies on shelves, plus what have been shipped since September. Tracking seems just fine to me. But I won't be surprised if overtracked as a game like GT5 can easily have 1 million copies on shelves. How many copies do you think other big first party games (Halo, Mario, etc.) are sitting on shelves? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 19/12/2011, 01:45
@atma998 Do you thing there are more than 1 million on shelves just in Europe??? That's the diff between VGC and PD... so undertracked in Europe is my bet. Message | Report |
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sub-zero-TM
posted 18/12/2011, 01:56
Awesome numbers! 9-10m lifetime! best selling racing game of this gen? Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 18/12/2011, 01:05
Don't forget that if you sum Prologue to GT5 5,3+7,3 in PD site you will have a total of 12,6... So it's possible for GT5 to become the best selling of them all. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 17/12/2011, 07:33
@CGI Happy to see that you have changed your position and are now agreeing with me: GT5 won't reach 10M unless heavily bundled. Case closed. Message | Report |
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Fame_Mcswagg
posted 17/12/2011, 07:03
gtplanet has this game selling 7.3 million at this point Message | Report |
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postofficebuddy
posted 17/12/2011, 04:19
@CGI This will easily sell more than a million in 2012. Uncharted 2 will sell over a million in it's second full year and GT5 not only has better legs but a much higher overall sales baseline. And as you pointed out before Polyphony's shipments point to this being undertracked anyway, particularly in Europe. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 17/12/2011, 03:17
@CGI Ok let's do that. But just out of curiosity... how much do you think it will sell in 2012? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 17/12/2011, 01:13
@CGI Ok so because ioi said (probably a year ago, without all the data and new info since then) it will reach 10 million, then we must just assume the game will indeed reach 10 million? Come on, that's ridiculous and you know it. Talking about data to back up your point, you did not bring any for claiming the game is undertracked. Even with my scenario of GT5 selling a couple of 100k/week during the holidays and reaching 7.5M on year's end, I did not see GT5 reaching 10M. With these sales it's now becoming impossible, unless Sony decide to bundle every PS3 with GT5 in the future... Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 17/12/2011, 02:15
@CGI Why would the game be undertracked? A game like GT5 could very well have several hundred thounsand copies sitting on shelves at the moment. At this point it sounds like wishful thinking to me, just as the 10 million. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 17/12/2011, 01:50
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GT!!! Message | Report |
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Alby_da_Wolf
posted 17/12/2011, 12:15
PD numbers are shipped, but the last published a few hours ago are as of September 2011, so an adjustment up on VGC isn't unlikely. Message | Report |
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enrageorange
posted 16/12/2011, 11:56
PD numbers are and have always been shipped... Hence why so far this year it only shipped 600k, but obviously sold a lot more. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/12/2011, 10:55
@VGKing, PD numbers are shipped. Anyway it seems PD has finally updated their numbers and it fits with VGC, might even be a bit overtracked here...*run for his life* Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/12/2011, 10:55
@VGKing, PD numbers are shipped. Anyway it seems PD has finally updated their numbers and it fits with VGC, might even be a bit overtracked here...*run for his life* Message | Report |
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VGKing
posted 16/12/2011, 10:30
PD says 7.3m sold. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/12/2011, 10:24
@thehusbo: Until Mario Kart 7 surpass it :) Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/12/2011, 10:21
No, even with the bundles the game is still not in the Europe top 40. Message | Report |
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shanbcn
posted 16/12/2011, 10:07
It should ship close to 9m by end of 2012. Message | Report |
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VXIII
posted 16/12/2011, 04:56
7,3M shiped as of Sep 2011, nice ^^ Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 16/12/2011, 04:38
70,472 this week... more three weeks... hummmm... 7.2 million by the end of the year.. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 16/12/2011, 04:11
How close it will get to 7,5M with 3 weeks of sale??? My prediction was between 7~7,5M Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 16/12/2011, 03:10
Has now passed Mario kart double dash and is now the 9th best racing game of all time :) 7 mill next week! Message | Report |
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The_Joker_Product
posted 16/12/2011, 10:02
7 mil next week probably. Message | Report |
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Jansky8
posted 16/12/2011, 09:11
Great game, love it :) Ethomaz, just out of curiosity, how was Gran Turismo 4 doing at that time in its lifecycle? Message | Report |
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EmpireNO
posted 14/12/2011, 05:48
I love GT5. Been playing it since release and I still play it almost on a daily basis. Awesomeness. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 14/12/2011, 03:45
My prediction can be found easily on this page... Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 14/12/2011, 01:28
The fact: GT5 is tracking better than GT4. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 14/12/2011, 01:28
Prediction is just a prediction @atma998... anyway how much is your prediction for GT5??? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 13/12/2011, 10:14
And I suppose you had a good reason to explain the huge discrepancy between your 1st week prediction and what it sold? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 13/12/2011, 10:09
@Ethomaz You made this prediction 2-3 weeks before the game's launch: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3760776 and you never spoke about heavy bundling... Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/12/2011, 04:22
For 31th December 2011... in January I guess. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/12/2011, 04:22
For 31th December 2011... in January I guess. Message | Report |
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Mordred11
posted 13/12/2011, 02:31
when are PD's numbers coming out? Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/12/2011, 02:05
GT5 15k just in UK.. .seems like over 50k this week (TOP40 baby). Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/12/2011, 01:34
Heavy bundled like Forza 3 or GT3 it can do that (15m)... if not it will be the second best selling GT ever (over GT4). Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 13/12/2011, 01:34
This week numbers... not last week. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 12/12/2011, 10:27
@ethomazNo, not in the Europe top 40 this week, #40 is Wii Fit Plus and it sold 46k for that territory alone, sorry. And you did not answer my question about your 15M LTD prediction lol. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 12/12/2011, 03:27
@atma998 due the bundle it appeared in TOP40 Europe this week... just if you not know GT5 is tracking ahead GT4 even after Holidays... EPIC. Message | Report |
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Tridrakious
posted 11/12/2011, 11:19
Sony's best performing title of the PS3 generation and continues to go up the chart. I will say though I'm getting less and less optimistic on GT5 hitting 10 million though. Message | Report |
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Sarah90
posted 11/12/2011, 07:07
def. my favorite racing game. i love it!!!! :) Message | Report |
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Alby_da_Wolf
posted 10/12/2011, 07:10
Yes, if it gets near 10M, Sony will bundle it and push the sales of budget editions enough to reach it. But if it sells more and it gets near GT4, GT4 and GT1 are so close that Sony will bundle it ad push all its other sales enough to outsell both. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 10/12/2011, 03:12
Should get to 10 million LT at this rate. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/12/2011, 10:22
@Ethomaz Last week it sold 30k and this week 40k...wow what incredible numbers!! I wonder how many 40k weeks the game will need to reach your 15 million LTD prediction? Even bundled, the game is not in the top 40 nor in the Europe top 40 anymore unlike some other older games. Sorry for having bursted your bubble again. On a more positive note, the game is on its way to reach 7 million before year's end! Still a good milestone for any game... Message | Report |
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DEF
posted 09/12/2011, 10:18
7 million by the end of the year.) Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 09/12/2011, 09:01
please PD update the numbers. Message | Report |
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Train wreck
posted 09/12/2011, 08:41
If you include the prologue this game is well over 11 million. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 09/12/2011, 12:08
41,020 this week... I don't get the "still selling less than 30k/week" LOL Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 09/12/2011, 11:30
@The_Joker_Product and what does that matter? Message | Report |
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The_Joker_Product
posted 09/12/2011, 10:38
MW3 passed it in only 1 month to. Message | Report |
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VXIII
posted 08/12/2011, 04:01
Eh .... the ever lasting argument :p Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 08/12/2011, 01:50
@CGI GT5 is currently bundled in some european countries just to let you know. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 08/12/2011, 01:20
GT4 sold less near 30k in holidays too... GT5 is tracking better than GT4 after adjustments. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 07/12/2011, 10:07
@CGI You will have to define what exactly ''stops selling'' means. Is 5k or 10k/week for the upcoming years can be considered as ''stops selling''? 10M cannot be reached magically. And by the way it's performing now, we can easily assume the game will die way sooner than 10M. I won't repeat what I already said about GT4 frame time comparison for obvious reasons. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 07/12/2011, 03:51
Again do the maths, if it doesnt sell substantial numbers during the holidays and it sells 10-15k/week during the rest of the year, 10 million is impossible to reach! Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 07/12/2011, 12:14
@atma998... less? It's more than 30k per week now. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 06/12/2011, 10:26
Still selling less than 30k/week? Seems like GT5 sales won't explode during the holiday period as some people predicted here...It will surely rise up a bit in the upcoming weeks but I don't see this game selling 100k+/week anymore. Message | Report |
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LupinIII
posted 06/12/2011, 04:18
Possibly though its sales still wont be as impressive as Black Ops. Message | Report |
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kivi95
posted 05/12/2011, 10:01
I think thid msy have a change to be the best selling ps3 game ever!!!(In Europe) Message | Report |
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John_Doe
posted 05/12/2011, 05:30
Where the hell is the chart???? Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 05/12/2011, 05:13
Just 140k more to take down position 9 Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 03/12/2011, 02:35
Ajusted up 84,935 until Week 49... the current week is 54. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 02/12/2011, 10:25
Every change made at VG have made people more confused and displeased by what we see... and horay... just another 680k in the next 5 or 6 weeks sales to reach my prediction... Let's see the Holidays kick in. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 01/12/2011, 09:08
I'm really starting to hate this format. But hopefully Asia, Canada and others will come around soon. Message | Report |
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alonzodono
posted 01/12/2011, 07:05
Ah ok ... and also , where is the " Yearly Charts " i do not see Message | Report |
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VXIII
posted 01/12/2011, 01:06
@alonzodono 5.4M is the total numbers of USA, Europe and Japan , 6.82 is WW total Message | Report |
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alonzodono
posted 30/11/2011, 05:00
Lifetime Totals: "5,410,004" WTF ? Is 6.82 not 5.4 :( Message | Report |
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MrMofongo624
posted 25/11/2011, 11:13
sick assssss game!!!!!!!!!! Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 25/11/2011, 10:05
Happy 1st Anniversary!!! Message | Report |
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postofficebuddy
posted 20/11/2011, 01:09
@Kai Master I was referring to the holiday GT5+Uncharted 2 bundle Flippozzo mentioned below. Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 19/11/2011, 11:32
"new bundle in Europe" : I bought PS3+GT5 pack in February, that's not "new" ! Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 19/11/2011, 11:31
Could sell between 9 and 11.5M in the end. Message | Report |
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postofficebuddy
posted 19/11/2011, 09:17
Sales decrease this week? Seems rather odd with the new bundle in Europe.. Message | Report |
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shanbcn
posted 19/11/2011, 06:35
It seem PD have forgotten to update the numbers, should be close to 8m shipped by December 2011. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 19/11/2011, 04:40
Sales goes down? Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 19/11/2011, 04:07
Should hit 7 million by the end of the year Message | Report |
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Flippozzo
posted 18/11/2011, 07:00
In Italy (presume in Europa) there is a bundle with PS3 320 giga + Uncharted 2 + GT5 at 299€ Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 18/11/2011, 01:32
And it just beat the 6,666,666 mark Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 18/11/2011, 11:23
Still the game is a lot more frontloaded then older GT's. People were waiting for this game for a long time and it shows. Can't remember by original estimate for this game, but even 9 million lifetime looks to be difficult, it's a shame because this is basically the best PS3 game out there (after Uncharted), and the racing franchise in general needs this game to do well. I mean look at what's happened to NFS, a good GT is always appreciated. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 17/11/2011, 11:21
926k i nthe last 40 weeks. Message | Report |
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The_Joker_Product
posted 17/11/2011, 05:28
Very frontloaded game, hasnt even sold 1 million in the last 40 weeks. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 16/11/2011, 01:47
@coolbeans Interesting indeed. It seems the family/friendly games are the exceptions. I also find out that GT5 has already been bundled in Europe (Collector's edition) and Japan (titanium blue PS3). As for this holiday, if ever Sony planned to release a bundle, it would have been already announced. Maybe next year, who knows? Message | Report |
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postofficebuddy
posted 14/11/2011, 04:24
Sold 36k this week. Even if you completely ignore the holiday boost it would fall just a smidge short of 7 million by the end of the year just by maintaining this average. 8 million is still possible by the end of the year. Sony just need to announce a holiday bundle. Message | Report |
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Serious_frusting
posted 12/11/2011, 06:17
Just to say, GT5 isnt even a year old yet >_> Message | Report |
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Donutsticks
posted 12/11/2011, 04:11
@atma998 and CGI. Both of you guys have shared your opinions concerning gt5 and you both know how the other person feels. I don't think your debate is about whether gt5 will get 10 million anymore. Its about who's going to get the last word in. Please let this be the end of your debate. Message | Report |
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homer
posted 12/11/2011, 03:51
MK Wii was bundled roughly 2 years(if not more) after its release. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 11/11/2011, 10:47
I didnt say it was impossible for GT5 to reach 10M, just that it was impossible to reach that number without bundles, something that even CGI agreed on. In other words, it all depends on bundles. But now I just have one question and I'm not sure about the answer, that's why I'm asking you guys. Sony did not announce any bundle in the near future. Is it possible to bundle a two years old or more game with a console? I mean is there any example of one of the big three bundling a game launched 2 years ago with their console? I'm wondering because I think the more we advance in GT5 life cycle, the less there is a possibility of bundles. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 11/11/2011, 02:28
@ CGI and atma998 And to end discussion, as GT5 is in its 50th week, almost one year down the road I'm most certain GT 4 already had its holiday sales by this time... so if GT5 is still outselling GT4 on a weekly basis (legs account) and is ahead in the same timeframe (frontload portion)... how came the discussion that it's IMPOSSIBLE to GT5 to reach 10M? You can say it's difficult, or that a bundle or greatest hits may help it, but you can't keep saying that people that think it are completly wrong just because they disagree with you. Or some people will wait to see if after GT4 second holiday GT5 is still ahead to accept the possibility? Because CGI didn't said it is certain that GT5 will cross 10M, but that its very possible. And to end the argument, if in January through March (dead season) GT5 still is weekly above GT4 its better to stop denying because after 2 holidays, V2, price cut it is just legs. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 11/11/2011, 12:26
Oh and no, 10M is not unreasonable if heavily bundled but in such a case wouldnt be more logical to compare it with another heavily bundled GT title like GT3? Yeah I know, it could makes GT5 look bad. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 11/11/2011, 12:20
You see? That's why we cannot have a serious discussion. You have completely ignored most of my points instead of trying to understand them while throwing again your ''time frame'' comparison with GT4 wich doesnt make any sense and you know why as previously discussed. You conclude saying there is nothing suggesting GT5 can't reach 10M. Wow! What a solid argument. Well at least I tried... Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 10/11/2011, 11:31
@CGI Fact: you did not comment the game sales during the low season while you're now commenting each week (or day). Fact: To reach 10M before the end of 2013, the game will need to sell an average of 30k/week during the next 25 months or so. Fact: The first year of a frontloaded game is always the best selling period of its life cycle. Fact: GT5 sold about 30k/week during 2011 and this number will obviously decrease during the upcoming years if we follow sales trends of a video game like GT5. Now, how can it possibly reach 10M? Heavy bundles? Yeah maybe, that's hypothetical at that point, but you have now to admit it is the only way it can reach that mark and in such a case it doesnt show it perfomed better than the previous tiltes. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 10/11/2011, 10:54
As for the solid argument, I provided you with tons of them but each time, rather than trying to understand them, you just instantly deny or ignore them. As goes the ''off-topic/inflammatory nonsense'', I did not get banned from what I know, so again please just take a step back. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 10/11/2011, 10:46
My Agenda? What are you thinking lol? Do you believe I'm working 24/7 on a conspiracy against GT5 sales? Dude, maybe you should take a step back because you seem to be way too much into it. We're just talking about sales of a video game. You're saying it will easily reach the 10M mark while I'm saying it won't. Week after week you feel the need to justify the game's performance and I just put all this into context, something that obviously you don't like. Don't forget GT5 is not a religion but just a video game, so relax! Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 10/11/2011, 10:03
Funny how you had to wait until this time of the year to cheer about the ''legs'' but did not say anything while the game sold below 10k/week during the summer. Quite mysterious isnt it? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 09/11/2011, 10:21
And just like any other video games, the sales are increasing during this time of the year. Oh well... but I agree 7 million will be reached soon. Message | Report |
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cars298
posted 09/11/2011, 12:11
Good grafix Message | Report |
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jester2358
posted 08/11/2011, 02:00
go check the date of those shipments bugrimmar it was last year. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 07/11/2011, 10:47
the legs are just beast... wonder if Uncharted 3 can have legs like this Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 07/11/2011, 10:46
umm... that was in december Message | Report |
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bugrimmar
posted 07/11/2011, 03:19
according to polyphony's website, they've shipped only 6.36 mil.... Message | Report |
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Iveyboi
posted 04/11/2011, 04:55
Best F'in legs..SEEN Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 04/11/2011, 04:43
easily beating GT4 in EMEAA, a bit in Americas and underperforming every GT in Japan... It could reach 11M WW and rank 2nd after GT3. Message | Report |
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shanbcn
posted 04/11/2011, 04:18
I can just see it selling 150k per week towards the end of the year. Message | Report |
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Mordred11
posted 04/11/2011, 01:19
Woah , it sold pretty damn good this week. Message | Report |
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pslee
posted 04/11/2011, 01:03
Soon will be overtaken by mw3. Spa is awesome!! Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 04/11/2011, 11:04
If it keep increasing in this rate towards the holiday we will have a very nice 7,5~8M before the end of the year. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 04/11/2011, 10:58
Sold just 36,468 this week... so low. Message | Report |
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Mordred11
posted 04/11/2011, 07:34
this game wall must be the most commented on vgchartz Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 04/11/2011, 04:14
@CGI I don't get it, you're so convinced the game will reach 10M and you predict the LT sale of the game as 9.7M LT (see your reply to Jansky below). Also you cannot say X franchise sells Y, it's not how it works in the real world. It's way more complicated than this. As for the time frame comparison with GT4, we have already discussed the issue at length. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 03/11/2011, 10:22
No misunderting here, I'm not saying the game is selling bad by the way, just that it's not selling as good as previous iterations. It won't reach GT4 LT sales and it won't reach GT3 LT sales either, which is the one to be compared to in the first place since a first iteration of an established franchise (not a growing one) on a new console always sells better than the second one. In the end, GT5 is selling good in comparison to the average sales of a video game, but not that good if we compare it to previous iterations, that's all. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 03/11/2011, 10:13
@CGI: I will say it again: Did you, or anyone else, answer gipsy's question before I did, yes or no? I will suggest that you ignored him because he did not make a cheerleader of himself, but instead asked a pertinent question which could make GT5 sales looks bad once answered. Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 03/11/2011, 11:11
I bought this game and I must say that I don't understand people saying the gameplay sucks, this game has the most subtile/realistic gamplay I've ever seen ! I think it is technically on par with PGR3 I played 5 years ago on 360, maybe I preferd PGR3, but the gameplay is really fantastic.. AI sucks... I hope it sells more than GT4 (10M) Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 03/11/2011, 02:15
Did anyone answered his question, yes or no? But I guess you will claim the game is selling good in Japan...hardly surprising given the history. p.s. I'm not here to cheer or to put down this game, just speaking the truth, something you obviously don't like! Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 02/11/2011, 10:14
@gipsy_jack: People here are generally too blinded to answer your question so I will: GT5 is already quite dead in this area, no undertracking. Message | Report |
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Carl
posted 02/11/2011, 01:56
I saw in the recent EMEAA thread, this is above Gran Turismo 4 in the same time frame. GT4 had just come out of a Holiday season too, with GT5 about to go into this one. GT5 will pull ahead in the next 2 Months... It's gonna be bundled at some point, probably next Year. 10 Million should be guaranteed at this point in time. Now, if only PD would release shipment numbers... Message | Report |
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Jansky8
posted 01/11/2011, 11:23
How come Japan and Americas bought so much GT5 Prologue compared to GT5. And at how much do you guys think GT5 is going to finish at in both regions? Message | Report |
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Jansky8
posted 01/11/2011, 11:22
Lol Michael-5 ;) Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 01/11/2011, 10:54
WAIT DAMMIT WRONG WALL!!! man, was wondering why every comment was GT related... have Forza open in another tab, my bad. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 01/11/2011, 10:54
Get....off Sony fans...get, sho. This is Forza's wall, none of this bs here.....get, shoo Message | Report |
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kivi95
posted 01/11/2011, 10:45
GT5 is so huge in Europe!!! Still dissapointing sales in America and Japan compared to the other GT games. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 01/11/2011, 08:31
HUUUUUGE!!! Message | Report |
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gipsy_jack
posted 01/11/2011, 06:21
is it possible that GT5 is undertrack in Japan....? Because it sold less than 1k per week...strange isn't it Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 01/11/2011, 08:04
lol 10 million by next year, sounds so familure "ps3 will outsell the 360" in 2011 ps3 fanboy were boasting last year" lol still behind by 2.8 million, thing is the ps3 has been swamped by exclusives this year the xmass bundles will focus on ps move games and uncharted 3. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 31/10/2011, 02:50
@CGI Was your last post supposed to be your last reply? lol Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 30/10/2011, 09:44
@CGI I'm indeed interested in video games sales and this is why I'm an active VGC member. Following your logic, I guess that if you don't like a game you should not comment its sales but unfortunately for you this is not how things work in the real world. Also lol about saying everyone except me knows you prediction like if you're so important. In fact nobody knows and you don't even dare to repeat it cause you know you'll be proved wrong. Anyway thanks for this discussion it shows everyone what kind of person you are and how you are totally got blinded by your ''love'' for a brand. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 30/10/2011, 05:52
@Donutsticks 10M is just a number, I agree. The thing is that in the past years on VGC there was so many people predicting it will easily reach that number (a lot of them were even claiming it will reach that number in Europe only) and now they are not even able to admit it did not sell as good as they tought. The reality is that if the game eventually sold 10M it will have a hard time to reach that number. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 30/10/2011, 05:46
@CGI I don't get why you ''don't'' want to bring any numbers. You said the game will reach 10M ''long before 2014'' 1 day ago and now you're saying it will reach it by the mid-late 2013. What a difference! Anyway saying I'm the one who fear is just non sense since I provided clear numbers in my prediction while you didnt. I agree that we can wait and see but it would have been more credible for you to explain to us how it will reach it, my guess is that you're hoping the game will be heavily bundled. Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 30/10/2011, 06:50
@tontus in Week 48 GT4 sold 3,723,790 (EMEAA) / GT5 sold 4,138,309... there aren't Week 48 data for Americas and Japan. Message | Report |
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Donutsticks
posted 29/10/2011, 10:40
@atma: It's to early to tell if gt5 will sale 10 million or not. Why don't you just wait and see like everybody else? Besides whats the big deal if does or does not sale 10 millon? The game is already a huge success! Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 29/10/2011, 05:33
@CGI Look who's talking about people hoping/wanting/dreaming the game will reach 10M without bringing solid figures. Where is your prediction? I gave you mine but yours is still nowhere to be found...And when you talk about ''some bundling'' what exactly do you mean? 500k? 2M? 5M? Well if the game is bundled by millions it doesn prove anything to me...guess what Wii Play sold near 30 million units! The thing with your argument CGI is that you doesn bring any raw numbers like if you fear to be proved wrong. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 29/10/2011, 03:51
@Tontus: You may be right, but it's possible that it hit. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 29/10/2011, 03:00
@pezus Sure holiday season will increase the average, but how much? It's funny to see that no one claiming it will (without any doubt) reach 10M+ is able to demonstrate how it will with raw numbers predictions. Message | Report |
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tontus
posted 29/10/2011, 01:54
When you align the launches for GT4 it's actually tracking ahead of GT5 by about 50k. GT5 could hit 10m but it's not as guaranteed as some think. I don't think it will, it'll sell just a little more than GT2 imo, about 9.5m. Message | Report |
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sabby_e17
posted 29/10/2011, 01:38
So now every car has cockpit view? Then ima hop onto GT5 now after some time. Was very disappointed with GT5 for being a half-finished game when it released. Message | Report |
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jace101
posted 29/10/2011, 08:08
Omg all cars now have in car cam with this new update.Thousands of cars with in car cam not just premium cars.This game keeps getting better and better.I havent even got the DLC I heard its killer! Message | Report |
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kurasakiichimaru
posted 29/10/2011, 07:17
Meh. This game is probably undertracked and the game will sell well as price goes down. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 29/10/2011, 02:55
and just to help you with your predictions if we exclude the launch period (first ten weeks of sales), GT5 sold an average of 22k/week up to this date. This number will obviously decrease in the upcoming years... Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 29/10/2011, 02:55
and just to help you with your predictions if we exclude the launch period (first ten weeks of sales), GT5 sold an average of 22k/week up to this date. This number will obviously decrease in the upcoming years... Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 29/10/2011, 02:46
@CGI and Don: You guys don't seem to understand how a time frame comparison works. You cannot compare a game released before holidays with one release after and then compare where they stand 1 year after launch, it just doesnt make sense. In January, GT5 will have benefit from 2 holidays vs. only one for GT4. Anyway since you don't understand it let's put this aside and let's just take a look at what GT5 needs to sell to reach 10M. Like I said before, how much do you think it will sell for 2012-2013-2014 excluding heavy bundling scenario? Do the math and then explain to me how is it possible to reach 10M LTD. I'm very curious to hear your predictions! :D Message | Report |
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Marks
posted 29/10/2011, 02:06
Wow nm that 750k forza figure is after 2 weeks. Only did 550k first week. Message | Report |
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Marks
posted 29/10/2011, 02:05
Wow GT5 killed Forza 4 in sales. 2.3 million first week vs 750k first week. Message | Report |
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DonFerrari
posted 28/10/2011, 11:55
@atma998: Do you still ignore when he says it is selling about the same week on week on the same timeframe, and as where discussed before GT4 already had its Holliday this time around (in number of weeks) after all the year have 52 weeks and this was 48... what was your point again? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 27/10/2011, 10:24
@CGI I'm still waiting for your prediction. Also when talking about ignored fact did you mean the fact that GT5 was released before the holidays while GT4 wasnt and then comparing the sales on the same ''time frame''? lol Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 27/10/2011, 08:25
More zero sales this week... sorry PD :( Message | Report |
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Munkeh111
posted 27/10/2011, 09:36
Still selling quite nicely, though I doubt it will ever reach 10m Message | Report |
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shanbcn
posted 27/10/2011, 02:10
When will PD update shipment figures? They used to update them after 3 months. Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 26/10/2011, 10:28
...unless heavy bundling which is out of the question at the moment obviously. Now where are your predictions guys? Message | Report |
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atma998
posted 26/10/2011, 10:25
A logical explanation? Dude, I already gave you tons of logical explanations. But just look at the numbers, this game is currently selling what? 20k/week. Even if it can sell a couple of weeks over 100k during the holidays and manage to reach 7.5M on January 1st 2012, how do you think it will sell for 2012, 2013 and 2014? No more than 1.5 million for these three years seems reasonable to believe which makes 9 million LTD. But imo it will probably be less than that like 8-8.5M LTD seems even more reasonable. Message | Report |
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gipsy_jack
posted 26/10/2011, 05:24
I thonk we'lll have a better idee after christmas Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 26/10/2011, 04:28
This game is selling nothing  Message | Report |
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VXIII
posted 16/12/2015, 06:54
"GT5 total just shy of 12 million units (11.94). This pushes the 2010 title into second place within the franchise, second only to GT3’s massive 14.89 million" https://www.gtplanet.net/gt6-sales-total-4-71-million-franchise-over-76-million-units/ Message | Report |
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