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グランツーリスモ 5

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Polyphony Digital

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11/25/10 Sony Computer Entertainment
11/24/10 Sony Computer Entertainment

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VXIII posted 08/12/2011, 04:01
Eh .... the ever lasting argument :p
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atma998 posted 08/12/2011, 01:50
@CGI GT5 is currently bundled in some european countries just to let you know.
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ethomaz posted 08/12/2011, 01:20
GT4 sold less near 30k in holidays too... GT5 is tracking better than GT4 after adjustments.
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atma998 posted 07/12/2011, 10:07
@CGI You will have to define what exactly ''stops selling'' means. Is 5k or 10k/week for the upcoming years can be considered as ''stops selling''? 10M cannot be reached magically. And by the way it's performing now, we can easily assume the game will die way sooner than 10M. I won't repeat what I already said about GT4 frame time comparison for obvious reasons.
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atma998 posted 07/12/2011, 03:51
Again do the maths, if it doesnt sell substantial numbers during the holidays and it sells 10-15k/week during the rest of the year, 10 million is impossible to reach!
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ethomaz posted 07/12/2011, 12:14
@atma998... less? It's more than 30k per week now.
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atma998 posted 06/12/2011, 10:26
Still selling less than 30k/week? Seems like GT5 sales won't explode during the holiday period as some people predicted here...It will surely rise up a bit in the upcoming weeks but I don't see this game selling 100k+/week anymore.
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LupinIII posted 06/12/2011, 04:18
Possibly though its sales still wont be as impressive as Black Ops.
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kivi95 posted 05/12/2011, 10:01
I think thid msy have a change to be the best selling ps3 game ever!!!(In Europe)
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John_Doe posted 05/12/2011, 05:30
Where the hell is the chart????
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DonFerrari posted 05/12/2011, 05:13
Just 140k more to take down position 9
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ethomaz posted 03/12/2011, 02:35
Ajusted up 84,935 until Week 49... the current week is 54.
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DonFerrari posted 02/12/2011, 10:25
Every change made at VG have made people more confused and displeased by what we see... and horay... just another 680k in the next 5 or 6 weeks sales to reach my prediction... Let's see the Holidays kick in.
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dsage01 posted 01/12/2011, 09:08
I'm really starting to hate this format. But hopefully Asia, Canada and others will come around soon.
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alonzodono posted 01/12/2011, 07:05
Ah ok ... and also , where is the " Yearly Charts " i do not see
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VXIII posted 01/12/2011, 01:06
@alonzodono 5.4M is the total numbers of USA, Europe and Japan , 6.82 is WW total
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alonzodono posted 30/11/2011, 05:00
Lifetime Totals: "5,410,004" WTF ? Is 6.82 not 5.4 :(
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MrMofongo624 posted 25/11/2011, 11:13
sick assssss game!!!!!!!!!!
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ethomaz posted 25/11/2011, 10:05
Happy 1st Anniversary!!!
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postofficebuddy posted 20/11/2011, 01:09
@Kai Master I was referring to the holiday GT5+Uncharted 2 bundle Flippozzo mentioned below.
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Kai Master posted 19/11/2011, 11:32
"new bundle in Europe" : I bought PS3+GT5 pack in February, that's not "new" !
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Kai Master posted 19/11/2011, 11:31
Could sell between 9 and 11.5M in the end.
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postofficebuddy posted 19/11/2011, 09:17
Sales decrease this week? Seems rather odd with the new bundle in Europe..
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shanbcn posted 19/11/2011, 06:35
It seem PD have forgotten to update the numbers, should be close to 8m shipped by December 2011.
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atma998 posted 19/11/2011, 04:40
Sales goes down?
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dsage01 posted 19/11/2011, 04:07
Should hit 7 million by the end of the year
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Flippozzo posted 18/11/2011, 07:00
In Italy (presume in Europa) there is a bundle with PS3 320 giga + Uncharted 2 + GT5 at 299€
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DonFerrari posted 18/11/2011, 01:32
And it just beat the 6,666,666 mark
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Michael-5 posted 18/11/2011, 11:23
Still the game is a lot more frontloaded then older GT's. People were waiting for this game for a long time and it shows. Can't remember by original estimate for this game, but even 9 million lifetime looks to be difficult, it's a shame because this is basically the best PS3 game out there (after Uncharted), and the racing franchise in general needs this game to do well. I mean look at what's happened to NFS, a good GT is always appreciated.
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ethomaz posted 17/11/2011, 11:21
926k i nthe last 40 weeks.
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The_Joker_Product posted 17/11/2011, 05:28
Very frontloaded game, hasnt even sold 1 million in the last 40 weeks.
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atma998 posted 16/11/2011, 01:47
@coolbeans Interesting indeed. It seems the family/friendly games are the exceptions. I also find out that GT5 has already been bundled in Europe (Collector's edition) and Japan (titanium blue PS3). As for this holiday, if ever Sony planned to release a bundle, it would have been already announced. Maybe next year, who knows?
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postofficebuddy posted 14/11/2011, 04:24
Sold 36k this week. Even if you completely ignore the holiday boost it would fall just a smidge short of 7 million by the end of the year just by maintaining this average. 8 million is still possible by the end of the year. Sony just need to announce a holiday bundle.
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Serious_frusting posted 12/11/2011, 06:17
Just to say, GT5 isnt even a year old yet >_>
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Donutsticks posted 12/11/2011, 04:11
@atma998 and CGI. Both of you guys have shared your opinions concerning gt5 and you both know how the other person feels. I don't think your debate is about whether gt5 will get 10 million anymore. Its about who's going to get the last word in. Please let this be the end of your debate.
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homer posted 12/11/2011, 03:51
MK Wii was bundled roughly 2 years(if not more) after its release.
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atma998 posted 11/11/2011, 10:47
I didnt say it was impossible for GT5 to reach 10M, just that it was impossible to reach that number without bundles, something that even CGI agreed on. In other words, it all depends on bundles. But now I just have one question and I'm not sure about the answer, that's why I'm asking you guys. Sony did not announce any bundle in the near future. Is it possible to bundle a two years old or more game with a console? I mean is there any example of one of the big three bundling a game launched 2 years ago with their console? I'm wondering because I think the more we advance in GT5 life cycle, the less there is a possibility of bundles.
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DonFerrari posted 11/11/2011, 02:28
@ CGI and atma998 And to end discussion, as GT5 is in its 50th week, almost one year down the road I'm most certain GT 4 already had its holiday sales by this time... so if GT5 is still outselling GT4 on a weekly basis (legs account) and is ahead in the same timeframe (frontload portion)... how came the discussion that it's IMPOSSIBLE to GT5 to reach 10M? You can say it's difficult, or that a bundle or greatest hits may help it, but you can't keep saying that people that think it are completly wrong just because they disagree with you. Or some people will wait to see if after GT4 second holiday GT5 is still ahead to accept the possibility? Because CGI didn't said it is certain that GT5 will cross 10M, but that its very possible. And to end the argument, if in January through March (dead season) GT5 still is weekly above GT4 its better to stop denying because after 2 holidays, V2, price cut it is just legs.
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atma998 posted 11/11/2011, 12:26
Oh and no, 10M is not unreasonable if heavily bundled but in such a case wouldnt be more logical to compare it with another heavily bundled GT title like GT3? Yeah I know, it could makes GT5 look bad.
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atma998 posted 11/11/2011, 12:20
You see? That's why we cannot have a serious discussion. You have completely ignored most of my points instead of trying to understand them while throwing again your ''time frame'' comparison with GT4 wich doesnt make any sense and you know why as previously discussed. You conclude saying there is nothing suggesting GT5 can't reach 10M. Wow! What a solid argument. Well at least I tried...
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 11:31
@CGI Fact: you did not comment the game sales during the low season while you're now commenting each week (or day). Fact: To reach 10M before the end of 2013, the game will need to sell an average of 30k/week during the next 25 months or so. Fact: The first year of a frontloaded game is always the best selling period of its life cycle. Fact: GT5 sold about 30k/week during 2011 and this number will obviously decrease during the upcoming years if we follow sales trends of a video game like GT5. Now, how can it possibly reach 10M? Heavy bundles? Yeah maybe, that's hypothetical at that point, but you have now to admit it is the only way it can reach that mark and in such a case it doesnt show it perfomed better than the previous tiltes.
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 10:54
As for the solid argument, I provided you with tons of them but each time, rather than trying to understand them, you just instantly deny or ignore them. As goes the ''off-topic/inflammatory nonsense'', I did not get banned from what I know, so again please just take a step back.
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 10:46
My Agenda? What are you thinking lol? Do you believe I'm working 24/7 on a conspiracy against GT5 sales? Dude, maybe you should take a step back because you seem to be way too much into it. We're just talking about sales of a video game. You're saying it will easily reach the 10M mark while I'm saying it won't. Week after week you feel the need to justify the game's performance and I just put all this into context, something that obviously you don't like. Don't forget GT5 is not a religion but just a video game, so relax!
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 10:03
Funny how you had to wait until this time of the year to cheer about the ''legs'' but did not say anything while the game sold below 10k/week during the summer. Quite mysterious isnt it?
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atma998 posted 09/11/2011, 10:21
And just like any other video games, the sales are increasing during this time of the year. Oh well... but I agree 7 million will be reached soon.
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cars298 posted 09/11/2011, 12:11
Good grafix
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jester2358 posted 08/11/2011, 02:00
go check the date of those shipments bugrimmar it was last year.
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dsage01 posted 07/11/2011, 10:47
the legs are just beast... wonder if Uncharted 3 can have legs like this
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dsage01 posted 07/11/2011, 10:46
umm... that was in december
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bugrimmar posted 07/11/2011, 03:19
according to polyphony's website, they've shipped only 6.36 mil....
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Iveyboi posted 04/11/2011, 04:55
Best F'in legs..SEEN
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Kai Master posted 04/11/2011, 04:43
easily beating GT4 in EMEAA, a bit in Americas and underperforming every GT in Japan... It could reach 11M WW and rank 2nd after GT3.
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shanbcn posted 04/11/2011, 04:18
I can just see it selling 150k per week towards the end of the year.
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Mordred11 posted 04/11/2011, 01:19
Woah , it sold pretty damn good this week.
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pslee posted 04/11/2011, 01:03
Soon will be overtaken by mw3. Spa is awesome!!
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DonFerrari posted 04/11/2011, 11:04
If it keep increasing in this rate towards the holiday we will have a very nice 7,5~8M before the end of the year.
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ethomaz posted 04/11/2011, 10:58
Sold just 36,468 this week... so low.
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Mordred11 posted 04/11/2011, 07:34
this game wall must be the most commented on vgchartz
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atma998 posted 04/11/2011, 04:14
@CGI I don't get it, you're so convinced the game will reach 10M and you predict the LT sale of the game as 9.7M LT (see your reply to Jansky below). Also you cannot say X franchise sells Y, it's not how it works in the real world. It's way more complicated than this. As for the time frame comparison with GT4, we have already discussed the issue at length.
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atma998 posted 03/11/2011, 10:22
No misunderting here, I'm not saying the game is selling bad by the way, just that it's not selling as good as previous iterations. It won't reach GT4 LT sales and it won't reach GT3 LT sales either, which is the one to be compared to in the first place since a first iteration of an established franchise (not a growing one) on a new console always sells better than the second one. In the end, GT5 is selling good in comparison to the average sales of a video game, but not that good if we compare it to previous iterations, that's all.
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atma998 posted 03/11/2011, 10:13
@CGI: I will say it again: Did you, or anyone else, answer gipsy's question before I did, yes or no? I will suggest that you ignored him because he did not make a cheerleader of himself, but instead asked a pertinent question which could make GT5 sales looks bad once answered.
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Kai Master posted 03/11/2011, 11:11
I bought this game and I must say that I don't understand people saying the gameplay sucks, this game has the most subtile/realistic gamplay I've ever seen ! I think it is technically on par with PGR3 I played 5 years ago on 360, maybe I preferd PGR3, but the gameplay is really fantastic.. AI sucks... I hope it sells more than GT4 (10M)
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atma998 posted 03/11/2011, 02:15
Did anyone answered his question, yes or no? But I guess you will claim the game is selling good in Japan...hardly surprising given the history. p.s. I'm not here to cheer or to put down this game, just speaking the truth, something you obviously don't like!
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atma998 posted 02/11/2011, 10:14
@gipsy_jack: People here are generally too blinded to answer your question so I will: GT5 is already quite dead in this area, no undertracking.
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Carl posted 02/11/2011, 01:56
I saw in the recent EMEAA thread, this is above Gran Turismo 4 in the same time frame. GT4 had just come out of a Holiday season too, with GT5 about to go into this one. GT5 will pull ahead in the next 2 Months... It's gonna be bundled at some point, probably next Year. 10 Million should be guaranteed at this point in time. Now, if only PD would release shipment numbers...
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Jansky8 posted 01/11/2011, 11:23
How come Japan and Americas bought so much GT5 Prologue compared to GT5. And at how much do you guys think GT5 is going to finish at in both regions?
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Jansky8 posted 01/11/2011, 11:22
Lol Michael-5 ;)
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Michael-5 posted 01/11/2011, 10:54
WAIT DAMMIT WRONG WALL!!! man, was wondering why every comment was GT related... have Forza open in another tab, my bad.
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Michael-5 posted 01/11/2011, 10:54
Get....off Sony fans...get, sho. This is Forza's wall, none of this bs here.....get, shoo
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kivi95 posted 01/11/2011, 10:45
GT5 is so huge in Europe!!! Still dissapointing sales in America and Japan compared to the other GT games.
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ethomaz posted 01/11/2011, 08:31
HUUUUUGE!!!
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gipsy_jack posted 01/11/2011, 06:21
is it possible that GT5 is undertrack in Japan....? Because it sold less than 1k per week...strange isn't it
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Genera1MLD posted 01/11/2011, 08:04
lol 10 million by next year, sounds so familure "ps3 will outsell the 360" in 2011 ps3 fanboy were boasting last year" lol still behind by 2.8 million, thing is the ps3 has been swamped by exclusives this year the xmass bundles will focus on ps move games and uncharted 3.
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atma998 posted 31/10/2011, 02:50
@CGI Was your last post supposed to be your last reply? lol
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atma998 posted 30/10/2011, 09:44
@CGI I'm indeed interested in video games sales and this is why I'm an active VGC member. Following your logic, I guess that if you don't like a game you should not comment its sales but unfortunately for you this is not how things work in the real world. Also lol about saying everyone except me knows you prediction like if you're so important. In fact nobody knows and you don't even dare to repeat it cause you know you'll be proved wrong. Anyway thanks for this discussion it shows everyone what kind of person you are and how you are totally got blinded by your ''love'' for a brand.
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atma998 posted 30/10/2011, 05:52
@Donutsticks 10M is just a number, I agree. The thing is that in the past years on VGC there was so many people predicting it will easily reach that number (a lot of them were even claiming it will reach that number in Europe only) and now they are not even able to admit it did not sell as good as they tought. The reality is that if the game eventually sold 10M it will have a hard time to reach that number.
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atma998 posted 30/10/2011, 05:46
@CGI I don't get why you ''don't'' want to bring any numbers. You said the game will reach 10M ''long before 2014'' 1 day ago and now you're saying it will reach it by the mid-late 2013. What a difference! Anyway saying I'm the one who fear is just non sense since I provided clear numbers in my prediction while you didnt. I agree that we can wait and see but it would have been more credible for you to explain to us how it will reach it, my guess is that you're hoping the game will be heavily bundled.
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ethomaz posted 30/10/2011, 06:50
@tontus in Week 48 GT4 sold 3,723,790 (EMEAA) / GT5 sold 4,138,309... there aren't Week 48 data for Americas and Japan.
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Donutsticks posted 29/10/2011, 10:40
@atma: It's to early to tell if gt5 will sale 10 million or not. Why don't you just wait and see like everybody else? Besides whats the big deal if does or does not sale 10 millon? The game is already a huge success!
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 05:33
@CGI Look who's talking about people hoping/wanting/dreaming the game will reach 10M without bringing solid figures. Where is your prediction? I gave you mine but yours is still nowhere to be found...And when you talk about ''some bundling'' what exactly do you mean? 500k? 2M? 5M? Well if the game is bundled by millions it doesn prove anything to me...guess what Wii Play sold near 30 million units! The thing with your argument CGI is that you doesn bring any raw numbers like if you fear to be proved wrong.
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DonFerrari posted 29/10/2011, 03:51
@Tontus: You may be right, but it's possible that it hit.
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 03:00
@pezus Sure holiday season will increase the average, but how much? It's funny to see that no one claiming it will (without any doubt) reach 10M+ is able to demonstrate how it will with raw numbers predictions.
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tontus posted 29/10/2011, 01:54
When you align the launches for GT4 it's actually tracking ahead of GT5 by about 50k. GT5 could hit 10m but it's not as guaranteed as some think. I don't think it will, it'll sell just a little more than GT2 imo, about 9.5m.
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sabby_e17 posted 29/10/2011, 01:38
So now every car has cockpit view? Then ima hop onto GT5 now after some time. Was very disappointed with GT5 for being a half-finished game when it released.
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jace101 posted 29/10/2011, 08:08
Omg all cars now have in car cam with this new update.Thousands of cars with in car cam not just premium cars.This game keeps getting better and better.I havent even got the DLC I heard its killer!
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kurasakiichimaru posted 29/10/2011, 07:17
Meh. This game is probably undertracked and the game will sell well as price goes down.
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 02:55
and just to help you with your predictions if we exclude the launch period (first ten weeks of sales), GT5 sold an average of 22k/week up to this date. This number will obviously decrease in the upcoming years...
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 02:55
and just to help you with your predictions if we exclude the launch period (first ten weeks of sales), GT5 sold an average of 22k/week up to this date. This number will obviously decrease in the upcoming years...
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 02:46
@CGI and Don: You guys don't seem to understand how a time frame comparison works. You cannot compare a game released before holidays with one release after and then compare where they stand 1 year after launch, it just doesnt make sense. In January, GT5 will have benefit from 2 holidays vs. only one for GT4. Anyway since you don't understand it let's put this aside and let's just take a look at what GT5 needs to sell to reach 10M. Like I said before, how much do you think it will sell for 2012-2013-2014 excluding heavy bundling scenario? Do the math and then explain to me how is it possible to reach 10M LTD. I'm very curious to hear your predictions! :D
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Marks posted 29/10/2011, 02:06
Wow nm that 750k forza figure is after 2 weeks. Only did 550k first week.
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Marks posted 29/10/2011, 02:05
Wow GT5 killed Forza 4 in sales. 2.3 million first week vs 750k first week.
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DonFerrari posted 28/10/2011, 11:55
@atma998: Do you still ignore when he says it is selling about the same week on week on the same timeframe, and as where discussed before GT4 already had its Holliday this time around (in number of weeks) after all the year have 52 weeks and this was 48... what was your point again?
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atma998 posted 27/10/2011, 10:24
@CGI I'm still waiting for your prediction. Also when talking about ignored fact did you mean the fact that GT5 was released before the holidays while GT4 wasnt and then comparing the sales on the same ''time frame''? lol
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ethomaz posted 27/10/2011, 08:25
More zero sales this week... sorry PD :(
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Munkeh111 posted 27/10/2011, 09:36
Still selling quite nicely, though I doubt it will ever reach 10m
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shanbcn posted 27/10/2011, 02:10
When will PD update shipment figures? They used to update them after 3 months.
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atma998 posted 26/10/2011, 10:28
...unless heavy bundling which is out of the question at the moment obviously. Now where are your predictions guys?
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atma998 posted 26/10/2011, 10:25
A logical explanation? Dude, I already gave you tons of logical explanations. But just look at the numbers, this game is currently selling what? 20k/week. Even if it can sell a couple of weeks over 100k during the holidays and manage to reach 7.5M on January 1st 2012, how do you think it will sell for 2012, 2013 and 2014? No more than 1.5 million for these three years seems reasonable to believe which makes 9 million LTD. But imo it will probably be less than that like 8-8.5M LTD seems even more reasonable.
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gipsy_jack posted 26/10/2011, 05:24
I thonk we'lll have a better idee after christmas
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ethomaz posted 26/10/2011, 04:28
This game is selling nothing
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DonFerrari posted 25/10/2011, 11:03
never more than 6,5M... Maybe v2 in the platinum edition can even boost more sales.
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Donutsticks posted 25/10/2011, 06:46
@atma: so what do you think gt5 will sell in it's lifetime?
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atma998 posted 25/10/2011, 03:50
Yeah really, there is no chance this game can reach 10 million now. Why can't we just get real?
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The_Joker_Product posted 23/10/2011, 07:11
Oh no itll never sell million, did too poorly in US and Japan for that.
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Turkish posted 23/10/2011, 09:57
Haters be hatin, this game will sell 10 million no matter what!
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DonFerrari posted 23/10/2011, 03:25
If install base is a problem then GT5 feat is even more important to consider when GT6 launch latter or in a new console if Sony manages to get first again
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postofficebuddy posted 22/10/2011, 04:16
In aligned launches GT4 has already had its first holiday (In Europe and NA, not in Japan though), and as CGI points out GT5 is still comfortably ahead of GT4. There's pretty much no way this isn't getting to 10 million. I'd even wager a bet that it could beat GT3 if Sony bundled it somewhat heavily.
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abhiram_33 posted 22/10/2011, 01:14
It won't sell more than GT4 cause the PS3 install base is pretty low compared to the PS2
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atma998 posted 21/10/2011, 10:09
Guys, stop comparing GT4 to GT5 time frame. GT5 was released BEFORE the holidays while GT4 wasnt. It's totally useless (or dishonest) to use this argument now.
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chris212223 posted 21/10/2011, 05:52
And also guys it's pretty clear that this game is undertracked since PD said they shipped 6.37 mil by the end of 2010 so for all we know GT5 could be at 7.5 or even 8 mil sold through.
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ethomaz posted 21/10/2011, 03:33
Michael-5 please do more research before post
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Michael-5 posted 21/10/2011, 01:10
This game really hasn't sold a lot in 2011. GT4 must have regained it's lead over GT5 by now. Don't think this game will break 10 million like many thought, without bundling that is.
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rpgmaniac posted 20/10/2011, 05:25
Sales will reach or pass the 8 million mark till the end of year imo, and in the next years the sales will continue to increase also to reach I dont know where.. :P
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ethomaz posted 18/10/2011, 04:47
DLC delayed in NA... bad news.
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Mordred11 posted 17/10/2011, 07:56
come on baby!
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postofficebuddy posted 13/10/2011, 02:28
@Puggsly This will easily cross 7 million this year even without bundling. It's already sold 1.3 million so far this year outside the holidays. Even without bundling another million is pretty much guaranteed, and with moderate bundling is likely to exceed 8 million by the end of the year.
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Feniris posted 12/10/2011, 03:59
This should evetnually get to around 8.5mil. I don't think if will be much more than that.
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Mr Puggsly posted 12/10/2011, 04:10
@ postofficebuddy - Even if it hits 7 million by years end, that next 3 million could take several years. Gonna need heavy bundling to get there anytime in the near future.
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Fanta posted 11/10/2011, 04:11
Stop spamming the chat fanboy.
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ethomaz posted 11/10/2011, 03:19
DLC Details: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135341
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ethomaz posted 11/10/2011, 03:19
Best intro ever made: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135340
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ethomaz posted 11/10/2011, 03:19
Spec 2.0 live: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135322
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postofficebuddy posted 11/10/2011, 05:43
I can hardly wait till this hits 10 million and proves all the haters wrong. Could even happen by the end of 2012 if Sony bundle it somewhat heavily this holiday. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up shipping over 12 million lifetime.
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bugrimmar posted 10/10/2011, 07:31
it's still tracking higher than gt4 week on week. on track for that ten million no problem.
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bugrimmar posted 10/10/2011, 07:31
it's still tracking higher than gt4 week on week. on track for that ten million no problem.
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bugrimmar posted 10/10/2011, 07:31
it's still tracking higher than gt4 week on week. on track for that ten million no problem.
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Mordred11 posted 09/10/2011, 10:58
let's see some higher sales!
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ethomaz posted 06/10/2011, 01:53
Win a super cara: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135124
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GamerCHICK posted 06/10/2011, 12:40
there we go, now gt 1,2,3,4 and 5 are in the top 10 best selling racing games of all time for all systems :)
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DonFerrari posted 05/10/2011, 10:34
Let's see a nice holiday with Spec 2.0, price cut and they could release a Platinum version already with spec 2.0 and use the price cut to better enhance it.
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ethomaz posted 05/10/2011, 06:07
Price Droped to $40 in US.
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ethomaz posted 05/10/2011, 04:08
Spec 2.0/DLC http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135083 haters gonna hate.
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Donutsticks posted 05/10/2011, 03:22
they should drop its price when forza 4 comes out.
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Carl posted 05/10/2011, 02:21
atma you spend more time on here than anywhere else on VGC
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atma998 posted 04/10/2011, 10:06
Well that makes a lot of ''if''...
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krazyb posted 03/10/2011, 04:19
platnium version, bundling,and if there is a spec2/goty edition shoud get it to 10 mil
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atma998 posted 01/10/2011, 01:15
Well if it can manage to sell an average of 18k a week, maybe the game will reach 10M before 2016. :P
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MrMofongo624 posted 30/09/2011, 08:45
this is the best racing game ever!
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DonFerrari posted 30/09/2011, 05:28
Another TOP 40 week... This game do some unexpected boosts
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Rockyb posted 28/09/2011, 05:26
mario kart looool
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gustave154 posted 27/09/2011, 09:16
wow top 10 racing games are Kart games and Gran Turismo =)
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fauzman posted 23/09/2011, 11:40
This game is KING in EMEAA. Keep mowing down the comp.
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DonFerrari posted 23/09/2011, 10:19
fw 1.13 online
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DonFerrari posted 23/09/2011, 12:32
TOP 40 again and almost 20k of sales... It's a long endurance race and you are conquering it bit by bit
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DonFerrari posted 20/09/2011, 11:45
@MonstaMack: the best part is EA shit talking GT5 and saying they would beat it up with Shift, they didn't even outsold Prologue and I don't think any NFS will do it this generation
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MonstaMack posted 20/09/2011, 07:56
With prologue and this combined it will outsell GT4 in the next few weeks!
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DonFerrari posted 20/09/2011, 03:29
14k this week in EMEAA, maybe it will enter TOP40 WW again. I don't see why it wouldn't achieve 7M maybe even 7,5M if Holidays are gracefull enough.
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reviniente posted 17/09/2011, 11:13
@snakenobi - No.
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DonFerrari posted 16/09/2011, 06:55
One more week to debunkle the sole NFS in top 10 list.... Would love to see it regain america and japan market also.
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 16/09/2011, 05:13
Sony should market it a little better in America and a lot better in Japan...
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ethomaz posted 16/09/2011, 02:22
More 22k this week... next week I expect a little more..
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snakenobi posted 16/09/2011, 01:19
should be around 9m after holiday bundle sales
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DonFerrari posted 16/09/2011, 12:21
@Rainbird: And As I see you are summing BO in Xbox 360 and PS3 together to compete with GT5, why not sum GT5Prologue since is the same game, or put Forza3 or 4 when it launches to do a same userbase?
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VXIII posted 13/09/2011, 03:28
Haha, Thanks Mordred11 xD
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Mordred11 posted 13/09/2011, 09:38
whoever made the banner.good job
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 09:57
Also, "which is when these claims were made", aye? You made the claim two days ago, hence why I posted. Anyway, I agree, I'm sure we could keep bickering here.
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 09:54
@ CGI: No, you're getting confused here. ;) We're discussing franchises here, and as I see it, that means the newest game in a series represents the franchise. Now, CoD games might be frontloaded and Black Ops may have sold "faster" than GT5, but so far this year, GT5 and BO have been selling neck and neck in EMEAA. So when BO is 500k units ahead in total sales, I can't see how GT is the bigger franchise. True, BO will fade away once MW3 releases, but there are no signs that MW3 will sell less than BO, so by the time GT5 has overtaken BO, MW3 might very well have done the same. My evidence to support this is as good as your evidence and your case, but right now the numbers are clear. Black Ops is more popular than Gran Turismo 5 and MW3 will be even more popular (tracking about 50% higher in the american pre-orders compared to Black Ops a year ago).
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 08:04
Oops, I meant of course that if GT is the bigger franchise, then why has Black Ops outsold GT5!
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 07:13
I think you're confusing yourself. You said "CoD is selling more, but as a franchise, GT is bigger than CoD in EMEAA." If GT is the bigger franchise (looking strictly at the PS3), then why has Black Ops outsold it? They've had about the same time on the market, so if GT is bigger, it should do better. I know GT5 will beat BO, that's obvious of course, but CoD is a moving target. Once MW3 releases, then that's the one to beat. Let's say that in one year, GT5 has sold an extra million copies in EMEAA, putting it at a little over 5m units. Black Ops outsold MW2 (on PS3) by about 21% (at the 42 weeks mark), and if MW3 follows that trend, it will have sold about 5.4m copies on the PS3 in EMEAA this time next year. The future is of course purely speculation, but right now CoD is in fact the bigger franchise (on PS3).
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:46
That's still lifetime sales for GT4 by the way, only 42 weeks for MW2.
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:40
@ CGI: Oh, and to remove the install base advantage from CoD, I made the same calculations for MW2 (EMEAA, PS360, 42 weeks on the market), and it has outsold GT4 by 850k units, but it launched on a substantially smaller install base (about 8.5m smaller). So yeah.
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:37
Holy crap that was a long post xD
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:37
@ CGI: Of course BO will not keep selling like this, it will be replaced, something GT5 won't have to deal with. Now, if we're going to talk growth, I will say this: Based purely on EMEAA PS360 numbers, Black Ops has outsold MW2 with 12% after 42 weeks each (BO's current time on the market), and there's no reason to believe MW3 won't do better than BO. Again based purely on PS360 numbers, Black Ops has currently sold 8,24 million copies in EMEAA, which is 1,74 million copies ahead of GT4. And that's where GT4 is now, six and a half years after it launched. Granted, GT4 launched on a smaller install base in EMEAA (about 4.5m smaller), but that's the only advantage BO had. And that's before we even take the Wii and PC into account, so CoD is definitely bigger than GT in EMEAA.
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ethomaz posted 11/09/2011, 02:40
Another boost 13,949... next week Platinum... GO GO GT5.
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atma998 posted 10/09/2011, 07:43
@Ethomaz Comparison by time frame doesnt means anything since GT5 was released during the holidays while GT4 wasnt and you know it. And it still selling really low numbers in US weeks after weeks.
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VXIII posted 10/09/2011, 07:12
:/
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VXIII posted 10/09/2011, 07:11
The Platinum is out of stock on Amazon.uk , it came yesterday The Platinum is out of stock on Amazon.uk , it came yesterday 9th Sep, should see a nice boost in sales when the next week data is here
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ethomaz posted 10/09/2011, 05:21
Just to explain better... GT5 is selling better than GT4 in Americas in the first 9 months (1 end of year holidays for both... but GT5 just get one part).
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ethomaz posted 10/09/2011, 05:18
@atma998 GT5 is not the worst selling GT in US by time frame... it's over GT4 for example... What are you talking about?
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atma998 posted 09/09/2011, 10:56
@Ethomaz, the worst selling GT in US did 2.85M. Look at the sales, it not doing fine at all. I know that you love GT and all but you have to admit it's not doing as good as previous GT titles did in the past.
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ethomaz posted 09/09/2011, 04:57
The @CGI point was never a GT sold more than 2.5m in US without bundles... GT5 is done fine in US.
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Rainbird posted 09/09/2011, 02:01
@ CGI: Actually in EMEAA, Black Ops (PS3) is currently outselling GT5 on a weekly basis (albeit by a small margin), and is about half a million ahead in sales. It's another story in Japan of course, but for EMEAA, CoD is in fact bigger than GT.
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SS4Goku posted 09/09/2011, 03:18
lol i still remember when someone on here told me that GT was as big as COD, this game flopped in US.
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Riku148 posted 06/09/2011, 06:17
The best driving game so far
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ethomaz posted 06/09/2011, 05:14
GT5 v1.12 update out three days ago.
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Libi posted 06/09/2011, 01:36
In Portugal 29.99€. Best game i have
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DonFerrari posted 02/09/2011, 11:22
@loy310: this week update have a kind of FREE DLC
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DonFerrari posted 02/09/2011, 11:17
3 more weeks or less to enter TOP 10
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ethomaz posted 29/08/2011, 07:55
GT5 v1.11 update coming today.
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loy310 posted 27/08/2011, 05:30
Sony need to add some DLc to thos game, being that it will be the only GT game for PS3. I would pay $60 for DLC if they released something good.
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ethomaz posted 27/08/2011, 04:41
@CGI I want just GT5 for PS3... definitive with DLCs and updates.
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maverick40 posted 27/08/2011, 03:16
just got this game for 22 euros new. What a game!!
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ethomaz posted 24/08/2011, 03:55
PD almost confired GT6 just for PS4... GT5 is the definitive game for PS3.
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ethomaz posted 24/08/2011, 01:59
September in EU.
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dsage01 posted 24/08/2011, 01:29
When does this game go platinum again?
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dsage01 posted 24/08/2011, 01:28
I expect big sales when this game goes platnium
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PureDante posted 22/08/2011, 08:49
Only 80k sales left until its in the top 10 racing list all time :D
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ethomaz posted 22/08/2011, 04:57
@DonFerrari I guess after this week it will enter in TOP40 because the PS3 sales have increased after the price cut... I expect numbers near 20k.
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DonFerrari posted 22/08/2011, 04:49
@ethomaz: just a little more to enter top40
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MrMofongo624 posted 22/08/2011, 10:12
The person who knows the lifespan of the Ps3 knows if will reach 10million. Honestly I dont think it will, maybe 9. But amazing game!
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chris212223 posted 21/08/2011, 04:40
Yeah i know -_- thats what everyone has been waiting for
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dsage01 posted 20/08/2011, 02:59
who isn't. But PD isn't putting there numbers on
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chris212223 posted 19/08/2011, 11:15
Im thinking its undertacked still...
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dsage01 posted 19/08/2011, 09:15
This can top hopefully more than 7 million by year's end!
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ethomaz posted 19/08/2011, 05:13
13,064 this week
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Heavenly_King posted 19/08/2011, 05:21
LTD 10M :D
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DonFerrari posted 18/08/2011, 03:27
@snakenobi: I don't think 9M is possible this year end, 8M at most would be guess... unless bundled it could go to 8,5~9M
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bleach2091 posted 18/08/2011, 10:30
latest game trailers http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePietro1010?feature=mhee
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ruimartiniman posted 18/08/2011, 02:24
@ethomaz maybe more than 20k, coming to platinum 9 September
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snakenobi posted 17/08/2011, 11:28
will easily top 9m by or around new year
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ethomaz posted 17/08/2011, 05:00
@atma998 if you check my tables you can see the GT5 was increasing... I will not surprised if it top 20k/week soon.
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ethomaz posted 17/08/2011, 04:58
@atma998 last two weeks togheter sold a little over 28k... seems more like 14k/week... without japan it sold 12,422 already this week.
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atma998 posted 17/08/2011, 01:44
Still selling near 10k/week...
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GamerCHICK posted 16/08/2011, 10:08
its about to past NFS underground for 10th place in world wide top racing games
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DonFerrari posted 13/08/2011, 01:32
@elmerFudd5: By one copy, be part of the team and help the sales to keep going
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elmerFudd5 posted 12/08/2011, 09:34
woh ive never been a fan of racing games but i heard a lot of good things about this game an sales are reeal good
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chris212223 posted 12/08/2011, 04:57
@Rafux: Gamestop says its $40 =P
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Rafux posted 11/08/2011, 09:15
Still selling at 60$ everywhere
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DonFerrari posted 08/08/2011, 01:47
@ethomaz: I know well what you are talking... but releasing a 3rd 5M+ seller is better than patch it more and more to get to 8M~10M, from a bussiness perspective at least... But that game would release 2014 (not earlier than 2013)... @GT6 in PSV, nope... maybe a GT2 Portable... @CGI-Quality: I agree with you, to early for a new GT6 and 3,6M more is still a possibility.
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dsage01 posted 06/08/2011, 02:46
Slight increase in EMEAA this week
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Ultr posted 06/08/2011, 12:58
I think they said there are also 4 gig cartridges, so, the game could come with 2 4gig carts :D maybe that would be enough
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italo244 posted 06/08/2011, 12:16
Maybe Gran Turismo 6 can be released for PSV, and you can play online PS3 x PSV. But hell no, im thinking too high. No way that Gran Turismo 6 will be released in a 2gb cartdrige.
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ethomaz posted 05/08/2011, 03:02
@DonFerrari you are missing one thing... in PS1/PS2 gen the patches didn't exists. GT5 could be improved even without GT6. GT6 just for PS4... I believe..
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Heavenly_King posted 05/08/2011, 10:08
It is funny how the prologue sold so much :D. This game will eventually sell 10M
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DonFerrari posted 04/08/2011, 12:33
@ethomaz: I disagree, PS1 and PS2 had 2 GT, one that implemented the concept and revolutioned the game and other that refined it... as GT5 still have a lot of room for improvement inside PS3 I could see a GT5 in 2012, even more if PS4 just launch by 2014. But I won't deny that a launch release of GT6 on PS4 would be a alternative
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ethomaz posted 04/08/2011, 05:25
@XanderZane there are no plan to GT5... sorry... the plan is weekly updates, patchs and DLC for GT5... I guess GT6 is just for PS4.
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XanderZane posted 03/08/2011, 10:13
It's still not going to reach 10 million by 2013. It's not even going to do 1 million in 2012, especially if GT6 is released next year.
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DonFerrari posted 29/07/2011, 07:13
For the sake of my prediction I'll consider the 31st day of the month sale to complete 4M in EMEAA and 6,4M WW
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ethomaz posted 29/07/2011, 03:22
13,012 exactly
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dsage01 posted 29/07/2011, 03:02
only about 12-13 k this week. Hope it boosts up back top the top 30 next week!
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DonFerrari posted 27/07/2011, 05:58
still on track to pass 4M in EMEAA by the end of the month and 6,5M by september. 7,5M is feasible for the holidays.
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Ldn.se posted 27/07/2011, 01:50
My friend just bought a PS3 and this was the first game he got for it!
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dsage01 posted 25/07/2011, 05:53
Back in the top 40 this week!
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ethomaz posted 25/07/2011, 02:12
@dsage01Yeah, it outsold Reach.
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ethomaz posted 25/07/2011, 02:12
Narrowly missed the TOP30 this week. AMAZING.
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dsage01 posted 24/07/2011, 04:10
When will the japense numbers arrive!
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dsage01 posted 24/07/2011, 04:10
I think it outsold Halo Reach this week
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M.U.G.E.N posted 22/07/2011, 10:56
the day 17k a week in summer were not good legs for a game >_> okieeee then
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atma998 posted 22/07/2011, 10:22
@DonFerrari I didnt know this page was only for cheering...sorry.
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dsage01 posted 22/07/2011, 08:34
atma998 dude we all thought this game would be bundled like crazy by now but it seems like we were wrong. BTW this is outselling Reach and Black Ops without the mass bundling those two game have. As soon as this game gets bundled 10 milliion is guranteed
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DonFerrari posted 22/07/2011, 12:24
@atma998: and if you want to downplay a game others are enjoying keep it to yourself or go to a game you like and praise it...
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atma998 posted 22/07/2011, 02:03
It's amazing to see you guys are impressed by a 17k week. Who would have thought this a couple weeks before GT5 launch with all the 10M+ thread? If you guys absolutely want to praise a PS3 game for its legs you still have God of War 3 that is not doing so bad for a lesser franchise.
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ethomaz posted 22/07/2011, 01:21
@DonFerrari a 17k week could put GT5 in TOP40 WW again... this week it sold more than last week.
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DonFerrari posted 21/07/2011, 05:16
@ethomaz... i think it's a 17k week ... almost at 4M in EMEAA two more weeks maybe... and EMEAA software were weak this week, with 11,7k it almost hit top 10.
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ethomaz posted 21/07/2011, 04:04
16,150 (NA: 4,372 + EMEAA: 11,778 + JP: ?)
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pslee posted 21/07/2011, 03:36
the greatest hit will release in europe in 2-3 month. there will be a huge boost in sale end of this year. I think it will reach 7.5million end of the year.
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ethomaz posted 21/07/2011, 03:22
GT5 boosted 21% in EMEAA this week.
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italo244 posted 21/07/2011, 02:11
lol, i still think it will. Price cut + new bundle and this will fly like a rocket!
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scabab07 posted 21/07/2011, 12:28
I knew it, i said before it came out the game wouldnt sell close to 10 mil and it could only hope for about 7-8 mil. Sales pretty much stopped after week 6. Its not selling 10 million.
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Rockyb posted 21/07/2011, 03:21
it still hasnt sold the 1st shipment of december 2010 ....... lol after almost 8 months
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DonFerrari posted 20/07/2011, 10:58
@Dgc1808 unless you think 20k a week not moving (1,6Million dollars of sales with probably near to 500k profit weekly) is not move them you are crazy. And about Move, it use eyetoy to track head movement, altough you can't use the Move controler and navigator to control the car yet.
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ethomaz posted 19/07/2011, 04:17
@italo244 premium cars, tracks, new modes, etc... something huge because GT5 is update every week with new events and stuffs.
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Dgc1808 posted 19/07/2011, 12:49
Do these sales even move?
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dsage01 posted 19/07/2011, 02:57
This still looks undertrakced! But still selling good. It will need serious legs to outsell GTA 4 though
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Heavenly_King posted 16/07/2011, 07:05
THIS IS MADNESS!!! lol :D
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small44 posted 15/07/2011, 07:23
The platinum version of gran turismo will out in october in europe.
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italo244 posted 15/07/2011, 06:34
what kind of DLC? Like... more premium cars?
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ethomaz posted 12/07/2011, 04:49
I guess this holidays GT5 will receive the first DLC pack putting the sales on sky again... quote me later.
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DonFerrari posted 11/07/2011, 09:22
In target to pass 4M in EMEAA before August.
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Donutsticks posted 11/07/2011, 06:07
@wbalmant, I think your goofy. This game is selling great! 6.33million copies sold and its still a full priced title! Thats outstanding!! It took 200 weeks for gt4 to sell 10 million. When this game goes down in price it will get a significant boost. When the holidays come it will get a significant boost that should put it over 7 million. If this game is bundled then who knows how many copies can be sold! The sky is the limit there! If theres one thing that can keep gt5 from reaching 10 million it will be because gt6 is coming out! And if it doesn't reach 10 million then who cares because the game is already a huge success!
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wbalmant posted 10/07/2011, 07:45
The game isback to the grave. GT5 R.I.P.
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Iveyboi posted 08/07/2011, 07:11
This game more than brokeve. 6.24M at full price x $70 = $436.8M. This will be divided up amongst Sony, PD, and stores but still very successful at full price.
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DonFerrari posted 08/07/2011, 05:19
2k to chart in TOP 40... I still hope that during holliday it can hit somewhere between 7~7.5M
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ethomaz posted 08/07/2011, 03:50
17,054 to be exactly
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DonFerrari posted 08/07/2011, 02:57
Another sub 20k week in WW? It's time to launch some DLC pack for free with more tracks, races (that will help people get to LVL40 without repeting the same championships a dozen times) and the Car models they promissed.
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dsage01 posted 08/07/2011, 02:29
Sales are slowing down in EMEAA. But it's not just GT5. It's the whole software.
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DonFerrari posted 05/07/2011, 03:21
@dsage01: the problem may be outselling MW3 i think
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dsage01 posted 05/07/2011, 02:30
Black Ops only has a 12 month lifeline. GT5 will keep selling. At the end of the day GT5 will outsell Black Ops in EMMEA
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jester2358 posted 04/07/2011, 08:25
so its just sold through its december 31 2010 shipment?(according to pd website) this is definitly undertracked there is no way the game hasn't had multiple shipment since then.
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mysticwolf posted 03/07/2011, 07:41
this is like real life or something
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pslee posted 01/07/2011, 06:49
second best selling game in EMEAA after passing MW2. Black Ops selling too well for GT5 to take over #1 spot
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DonFerrari posted 01/07/2011, 06:07
@Gustave154: Will be funny to see the TOP 10 of racing having just GTs and MKs no doubt kings in each sub-genre (simulation and kart).
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 27/06/2011, 11:25
Unless shipments during Q1 2011 turn out to be horribly low, the shipment as of 31 Dec 2010 should be considered sold, at latest, by 31 Mar 2011, so we could see a minimum adjustment up by 260k.
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ethomaz posted 26/06/2011, 04:06
21,210 this week.
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dsage01 posted 25/06/2011, 04:02
If this gets big holiday sales it looks like 10 million is possible
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gustave154 posted 24/06/2011, 06:34
the wait is agonizing when will it beat NFS Underground.. xD
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ethomaz posted 24/06/2011, 03:14
Damit I wrote wheel wrong...
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ethomaz posted 24/06/2011, 03:14
@Rockyb It's not impossible without a whell but the whell make the thing more easy... the time speeded to Platinum is more difficult to me.
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Rockyb posted 24/06/2011, 02:38
this is the only game i cant get the platinum trophy, too dificult get gold on everything , specially the vettel events . i heard its almost impossible without a wheel
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ethomaz posted 24/06/2011, 01:24
Haters will have a heart attack now
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mysticwolf posted 23/06/2011, 04:14
its so expensive! but i want it so bad
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mysticwolf posted 21/06/2011, 05:12
i want this
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DonFerrari posted 20/06/2011, 04:03
@ethomaz count with me.
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ethomaz posted 20/06/2011, 12:52
I want to write a review for GT5 but I do not think I know enough English to do this: (
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ethomaz posted 18/06/2011, 07:43
Possibile DLC coming: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130620
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TurismoT posted 17/06/2011, 11:01
this game is still entering the top 40 6 months after its release. I thought only cod and wii games did this. good job
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enditall727 posted 17/06/2011, 11:00
i still think this game will be the 5th 10 million seller on ps3
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Pjams posted 17/06/2011, 08:20
I really need to buy this game again
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Turkish posted 17/06/2011, 10:04
This game will hit 10 million definetly
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ethomaz posted 13/06/2011, 10:34
@DonFerrari I guess that because the game is the only with official sales data released time to time.
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DonFerrari posted 13/06/2011, 01:04
it's the king of the undertracking
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wbalmant posted 12/06/2011, 12:33
Top 40 again very good. What happened? Cut price? Strange, the game is out of top 40 by 10 weeks. Now 3 weeks in top 40. Maybe the game is undertraked.
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Groundking posted 11/06/2011, 11:38
I like how sales are increasing going into the slow season XD Anyway Legs on this are awesome :)
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krazyb posted 11/06/2011, 12:01
23k again that is awesome and still on full price,only this week some retailers are slightly dropping the price,this series is the king of driving games, haters and competitors who slagged of this game you fail.
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ethomaz posted 10/06/2011, 03:29
HO HO HO 23k again.
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dsage01 posted 10/06/2011, 01:32
Great legs!
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sbvgc2049 posted 09/06/2011, 08:48
For bitter minders,it's never about quality,it's all about hatred toward good things in their minds,you never see them to comment on those really shitty games.
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ethomaz posted 08/06/2011, 09:07
GT5 v1.10 out now.
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ethomaz posted 05/06/2011, 05:27
C'mon PD update GT5 numbers.
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wbalmant posted 04/06/2011, 02:53
Lets see more weeks. But the is now on top 40, and the sales are better then halo reach. Lets wait and see.
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jester2358 posted 03/06/2011, 08:13
weak data? as far as i can see he is just stating the weekly sales numbers....adjustments will come once PD update their website, currently is states 6.37 shipped as of december 2010. so its likely undertracked a bit.
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DonFerrari posted 03/06/2011, 07:42
@ethomaz: Post the link to your all weak data... when will the adjustments come?
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ethomaz posted 03/06/2011, 05:06
23k again... AMAZING.
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jester2358 posted 03/06/2011, 03:52
@atma998 crazy and stupid predictions are made about every game doesnt mean those predictions become a rule of sorts. I believe this will hit 10 million with about 1.5-2.0 in bundled sales. and i was in the sales prediction threads in fact i correctly guessed the opening week(within 150k) and my estimate of lifetime sales was 9.5 million, i have moved that to 10 recently for a few reasons.
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ethomaz posted 03/06/2011, 02:29
15k without Americas this week
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ethomaz posted 03/06/2011, 02:04
More 2 months to GT5 crossed 4 million in EMEAA.
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Darkshao posted 03/06/2011, 01:13
call of
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DonFerrari posted 03/06/2011, 12:39
@atma998: Some users saying it will reach 10M without bundles (what isn't impossible, just harder) don't make it a rule you know??? But with 20k sales a week i don't see Sony bundling it before Holiday (maybe just in 2012) because they are still geting nice profit (about 300k dollars everyweek) to just put on a bundle for 0 profit on software and push more hardware with a low margin
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ethomaz posted 02/06/2011, 02:50
@All it will.
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atma998 posted 02/06/2011, 02:33
@jester2358 Obviously you did not participate to the numerous ''GT5 will reach 10M'' threads...
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ethomaz posted 01/06/2011, 05:46
More amazing sales coming this week? I think so.
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jester2358 posted 01/06/2011, 06:20
@wbalmart, it is true. its factual its not up for debate.because cod comes out yearly its a stupid comparison. @atma998 why does it have to reach 10 million without bundling? is there some sales rule book i need to read? lol u guys are funny in your campaign against this games success.
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wbalmant posted 01/06/2011, 02:18
@jester2358 This is not true, After black ops launch the game sells 350k. So the comparation is true.
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atma998 posted 31/05/2011, 03:57
...btw it is currently having hard time to reach 20k/week after only barely 6 months on the market. Just saying.
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atma998 posted 31/05/2011, 03:57
...btw it is currently having hard time to reach 20k/week after only barely 6 months on the market. Just saying.
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atma998 posted 31/05/2011, 03:55
@DonFerrari If you want to use logic than explain to us how GT5 can sell 10M without bundles? Statistically it would have to maintain an average of 20k/week during 4 years to do so and we all know the next generation is really near. Staying logical, why would we add GT5:P to GT5 sales again? Anyway, I think logic isnt very welcome here...
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blue7x7 posted 30/05/2011, 08:34
@ethomaz I guess it depends where you live but here both Halo Reach and Black Ops are priced higher than GT5
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DonFerrari posted 30/05/2011, 12:54
@jester2358: Don't try to use logic, some people just want others to agree or just to complain... GT5 can sell 10M by itself and if Sony wanted they could bundle it after this hollidays and put a Platinum... And just to put things in the right place (as a lot of people said that GT5 wouldn't sell because prologue were already on the market... sum the 2 games and we have 10.3M so GT5 have already passed 10M)... just let it go people, for PD or Sony it doesn't matter if it really sells 10M (if it was just about numbers they could bundle it with every system)... it's about the profit those games made... and even if profit about 20 dollars after 10M selling it's 200M profit, not to shabby.
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dsage01 posted 30/05/2011, 12:20
This will outsell GTA 4 360 version. Forget the PS3 one
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jester2358 posted 30/05/2011, 05:17
lol u guys insecure or something? i could care less if this game hit 10 million, @atma998 gta4 will hit 8.5 or 9 lifetime and gt5 is outselling it I was just stating comparison wise its quite interesting as far as the 10 million number goes. @wbalmart if call of duty didnt come out every year and mw2 was the only cod out for 3 years it would be much higher, when the new cod comes out the old ones legs get cut....so we will really never know the real limit a individual cod game can sell. that is why a comparison between those is pointless....and its cod NOTHING sells like it on the hd consoles...its pointless to use in comparison. its like doing a automotive comparison between 3 and 5 series bmws then throwing in a bugati ....as far as sales go it would be more apt to use halo,gta4, etc.
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wbalmant posted 30/05/2011, 03:41
@Jester2358 Good! Now we have a comparative. So why you can't compare GT5 to COD MW2? 1.6 milions ahead of GT5 and what a surprise, not have 10 milion of sales!!!!!! As i say fan boys are stupid pesple!!!!
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atma998 posted 29/05/2011, 07:24
Ok but you're comparing a multiplat game to an exclusive one. Anyway GTA franchise is more popular than GT and it didnt even reached 10 million after 3 years so why would GT5 reach it ?
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jester2358 posted 29/05/2011, 06:10
2 popular franchises on the same system with a similar opening week as well as both being known for their long term legs. I think there are very valid reasons to compare those games as far as sales go.
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atma998 posted 28/05/2011, 10:41
ok but what's the point of comparing GT5 with GTA4?
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jester2358 posted 28/05/2011, 07:59
yeah i no, i meant gta4 in my post. i said gt5 is outselling gta4 by 1.5 million in the same timeframe. i wasnt talking about gt4
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atma998 posted 28/05/2011, 07:01
@jester No, I simply mistyped it in my last post but I meant GT4.
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atma998 posted 28/05/2011, 07:01
@jester No, I simply mistyped it in my last post but I meant GT4.
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jester2358 posted 28/05/2011, 04:36
atma998 i think you are confusing gt4 and gta4. i was talking about grand theft auto 4.
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atma998 posted 28/05/2011, 04:29
And to those saying it is currently outselling GT4 by 1.5M in the same timeframe I don't know what you're talking about since it's only 600k over GTA4 for the same timeframe and if you take into account that GT5 was released during the holidays while GT4 wasnt...Sorry but the reality is that GT5 isnt selling tremendously well like some people here are trying to make us believe. Bottom line, decent sales are decent sales, nothing more.
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atma998 posted 28/05/2011, 04:11
@Donutsticks We're not here to say positive or negative things about this game but we're here to say the truth. And the truth is that it isnt selling so well. If 24k/week for a game that came out a half a year ago and is still a full priced title is to be considered as ''tremendous legs'' then I suppose legs for MJ:TE, DKCR, Wii Party and CoD:BO are way more than just ''tremendous'' and I'm not even talking about Mario Kart Wii, Just Dance 2, Wii Fit Plus, Pokemon B&W, etc...
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ethomaz posted 28/05/2011, 04:39
@dsage01 Reach is priced at $39.99 http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Search?query=halo%20reach
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ethomaz posted 28/05/2011, 04:04
@wbalmant you always forget the holidays season... so GT5 does't need over 20k/week to top 7 million or more this year. And GT seria is the unique that VGC could adjusts it sales every quarter because PD updates it sales every quarter... so we know when GT5 is undertracked but the other game not because there are no real data for them.
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dsage01 posted 28/05/2011, 04:01
Etomaz, Halo Reach is $49.99 and so is Black Ops. Although GT5 is 59.99. Why would Reach and BO lower there prices even though accorinding to this site it is getting amazing sales. And why would GT5 not lower there price despite GT5 getting shabby sales accoridng to this site? GT5 looks pretty undetracked to me
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ethomaz posted 28/05/2011, 03:46
@blue7x7... Retail prices: Reach ($39.99), Black Ops (4$9.99) and GT5 ($59.99).
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wbalmant posted 28/05/2011, 03:29
@leatherhat Maybe the game is undertracked. But not so much. If sales a great the game go to top 40. Only this week is top 40. For 10 weeks the game is out of top 40. Why especifically this game is undertracked? We have to work with the data. But tell me one thing, why Sony have to bundle this game? For what? Only to have a SCEA game with 10 milion of copies? This is a inferioty complex.
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blue7x7 posted 28/05/2011, 02:53
@ethomaz both Halo Reach and COD BO are priced higher than GT5 right now so I don't know what you are trying to say. Anyways I said this game would do 7 million max unless Sony decides to bundle it.
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leatherhat posted 28/05/2011, 12:22
Sony should bundle the fuck out of this, KZ3, LBP2 and U3 this fall.
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leatherhat posted 28/05/2011, 12:08
I have a feeling this jump in sales is vgchartz doing a better job of tracking it. We'll probably see some adjustments when we get shipment numbers.
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wbalmant posted 27/05/2011, 10:01
@kivi95 I think that stupid fan boys have to make a account. If the average sales of the game mantain 20k in a week, sales are just 6.8 milion at end of the year. But as i say one week is nothing. Mahe account stupids.
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jester2358 posted 27/05/2011, 07:50
I'll say it again....this is outselling gta4 by 1.5 million in the same timeframe and its going to be bundled more than that game. when are PD updating their website the financial year is over but no update yet.
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ethomaz posted 27/05/2011, 02:10
Just to compare... Halo: Reach and Black Ops already had two price cuts.
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Donutsticks posted 27/05/2011, 01:43
A couple people on this wall have nothing but negative things to say about this game. and how this game will never reach 10 million. It took gt4 over 200 weeks to hit 10 million games sold! So yea this game is doing great! and atma998, 24k is "tremendous legs" for a game that came out a half a year ago and is still a full priced title!
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kivi95 posted 27/05/2011, 12:45
gustave154# might? It will by 100% reach 7mil by the end of the year.
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gustave154 posted 27/05/2011, 06:14
hope sales continue at this rate. might reach 7 mlllion by the end of the year =)
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ethomaz posted 27/05/2011, 05:18
Hei people... 16k is just EMEAA... for WW is 24k.
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VetteDude posted 27/05/2011, 02:50
I'm dissapointed in my fellow American gamers who don't have this game.
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atma998 posted 27/05/2011, 02:33
ok so now 16k/week for a GT game is qualified as ''tremendous legs''...okay...
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wbalmant posted 27/05/2011, 02:26
@ethomaz Amazing legs!!! With this pace (average sales of 17k in a week), the game wiil reach 10 milions in 4 and a half years, in november of 2015, PS3 will die 2 years before that date. 17k is good legs??? GT4 has 30k over 100 weeks. As i say fan boys are stupid people.
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jester2358 posted 26/05/2011, 11:46
gta4(ps3) was at 4.7 million at 26 weeks and that is looking to pass 8.5.I'm just sayin. i also expect adjustments once official shipped numbers get announced (hopefully at e3)
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dsage01 posted 26/05/2011, 09:33
Damn nice legs. Hope it's for more than 1 week
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Tridrakious posted 26/05/2011, 06:32
Showing tremendous legs.
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leatherhat posted 26/05/2011, 03:55
Also good sales for Yurop
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leatherhat posted 26/05/2011, 03:54
I expect adjustments after polyphony reveals shipped numbers
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ethomaz posted 26/05/2011, 02:59
@wbalmant 16k just in EMEAA this week... ho ho ho... legs to die? I guess not.
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krazyb posted 26/05/2011, 02:55
Drop thefecking price sony its getting ridiculous that its still full price in the uk and most likely other places in the world,it could sell so much more.
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yahoocom1984 posted 26/05/2011, 03:56
SOny needs to bundle GT5 like cheap shit if they want this game to hit 10 million units mark
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wbalmant posted 25/05/2011, 03:41
@ethomaz you don't have data of GT3. And the great question is the legs. The legs of this game is definitively die. GT4 have a good legs for 100 weeks. For example, from week 30 to week 100 the sells 34k in average. GT5 on last 10 weeks sells 18k in average. And Average go down more and more. If you take last five weeks the average is 14k. The sales in USa are only 20k in last five weeks. If you think this gonna change ok, but if the data is right, goodbye 10 Milion.
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ethomaz posted 24/05/2011, 05:46
Just to dudes here follow my comparison thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=125037
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ethomaz posted 24/05/2011, 05:24
@wbalmant GT5 is selling three months ahead GT4... that's make it the fastest selling GT with shipped data avaliable.
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wbalmant posted 23/05/2011, 05:27
Very strange. I want to know where the people that say that game will reach 10 million no matter what happen. Now people talk of 8 million witout a bundle. Where the stupid guys? As i say the worst gran turismo sales.
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jester2358 posted 23/05/2011, 04:50
i dont really understand your point. I said if its bundled its possible. we are saying the same thing, yet you are disagreeing with me.? 8 million lifetime without bundling i would agree with.....but we all know it will be bundled at some point its just a question of how widely.
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atma998 posted 22/05/2011, 06:48
Unless bundled it's indeed totally out of the question, no doubt about it. The real question is will it reach 8M LT? My guess is yes.
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jester2358 posted 21/05/2011, 05:47
hudsoniscool, its impossible to say its out of the question. a ps3 price drop or regular bundling could result in that sales number. I dont think anyone would argue that halo 3 had millions of bundled sales. and if they did argue....they would be wrong.
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hudsoniscool posted 21/05/2011, 08:29
enditall727 it would have to sell 40k a week to reach 7.5 million this year. At the pace its going now even with 500k sales in the holiday it wont reach 7.5 million till next holiday. 10 million is out of the question unless bundled. halo 3 wasnt bundled that much.
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enditall727 posted 21/05/2011, 06:10
i believe it can hit 10 mill. if sony drops the price of ps3 then the sales sky rocket and then we have this holiday's. I think by the end of 2011 GT5 will be at atleast 7.5 mill while still at full price. then they can just simply give gt5 a price drop to keep the sale's steady throughout 2012 until it's holiday's. and hell they can even bundle the game. i mean Halo 3 was bundled. i think gt5 will do like 11-12 mill if they bundle it
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enditall727 posted 21/05/2011, 06:10
i believe it can hit 10 mill. if sony drops the price of ps3 then the sales sky rocket and then we have this holiday's. I think by the end of 2011 GT5 will be at atleast 7.5 mill while still at full price. then they can just simply give gt5 a price drop to keep the sale's steady throughout 2012 until it's holiday's. and hell they can even bundle the game. i mean Halo 3 was bundled. i think gt5 will do like 11-12 mill if they bundle it
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DonFerrari posted 21/05/2011, 04:20
@wbalmant: what is the logic of comparing a yearly release game with GT5? Would you compare it to PES and Fifa also? Let the game keep selling and you will see... and even if they stop selling now (they were at 6,3M at the beggining of the year at PD site)... so they will still have massive profits.
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wbalmant posted 21/05/2011, 02:30
This game sales is dead. End of case. Look the data of COD MW2 of PS3, 7.75 milion in week 24, 20k in a week in week 24. And don't have 10 milion, maybe never will have 10 milion . C'mon holidays don't change nothing. GT5 will be the worst sales of GT series. Why? Because PS3 was the worst console sales of sony. It's very simple.
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Onibaka posted 21/05/2011, 12:13
10M seller? Only if they giveaway this game. I blame America for this.
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A203D posted 20/05/2011, 11:14
I also have doubts 10 mil is possible - unless its undertracked - which i think it is.
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yahoocom1984 posted 20/05/2011, 09:52
10 million seller? Bah
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dsage01 posted 20/05/2011, 08:53
@scabab07 this is most likey undertracked and 6.2 million in 20 weeks is great. Watch the sales rise massively in the holidays. BTW the only bundle there is for this game is the japan bundle. 6.2 million (undertracked in 25 weeks is still amazing
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scabab07 posted 20/05/2011, 04:57
Oh this has no chance at 10 million, it never had, like i always said itll easily be the worst selling GT game.
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enditall727 posted 20/05/2011, 03:28
i believe this game will be the 5th 10 mill seller on ps3
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enditall727 posted 20/05/2011, 03:28
i believe this game will be the 5th 10 mill seller on ps3
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IMU1808 posted 20/05/2011, 03:14
Damn.... perhaps those people shouting 6Million were right...
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sbvgc2049 posted 13/05/2011, 03:41
The sales is definitely rising along with PS3's sailing.
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italo244 posted 13/05/2011, 12:58
E3 2011: New PS3 Model, 500gb, a lot of colors with Gran Turismo 5 Bundle! *dreaming* =D
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snyperdud posted 07/05/2011, 12:14
The legs are definitely dying if these number's are too be believe.
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atma998 posted 06/05/2011, 10:53
Sold 12k last week...
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dsage01 posted 06/05/2011, 10:17
OMFG is VGC saying this game is selling less than God of War. This is complete BS. It says 6.37 million shipped as of dec 2011 and it still not all shipped by now! VGC stop undertracking this game!
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ethomaz posted 06/05/2011, 09:25
Thw wall was showing onlu JP numbers.
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DonFerrari posted 06/05/2011, 06:47
on my wall it's showing 0,61m ... and in the control 6,166m strange world
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DonFerrari posted 06/05/2011, 12:10
@Vekta: Try it, and maybe do it on a friend's house with a decent whell it's amazing... And about sales and leg, it's on par with the other games of the franchise, they are pretty good in this department also... this is why people often call it the king of racing or simulation.
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Vekta posted 03/05/2011, 02:42
wow amazing sales and legs. im suprised a racing game can do these large amount of numbers. Never really had got into gran turismo though, i would like to try the new one though
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DonFerrari posted 03/05/2011, 12:25
@CGI-Quality: PD site put GT5 at 6,37M right now.
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A203D posted 02/05/2011, 08:19
It will take time, (maybe 3 - 4 years), but i think GT5 will do its 10 mil by then!!
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jester2358 posted 02/05/2011, 06:23
cgi-quality, its all good there are some believers. I dont think people realize how much this game will sell during holidays or once(not if) its bundled.
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VetteDude posted 01/05/2011, 03:15
The PS3 userbase is just too small. 6 million sales is a great accomplishment, and it will reach 7 mil lifetime easily.
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atma998 posted 30/04/2011, 06:19
@CGI Please learn how to read. I said if we're doing the comparison for the only territory where both games have been released during the holydays (i.e. Japan) then GT5 is doing horrible. Beside of that EMEAA and Americas numbers doesnt mean anything since GT5 was released during holidays while GT4 wasnt. Simple as that.
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yahoocom1984 posted 29/04/2011, 09:13
Legs are bad
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yahoocom1984 posted 29/04/2011, 09:13
Legs are bad
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chidori-chan2 posted 29/04/2011, 01:25
this game have the most weak sales of all gran turismo PERIOD!
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Borrego posted 29/04/2011, 12:19
yes it is truth...but the gt5 has been sold at the maximum price in stores...we gonna wait when it be sold by an good price...in portugal the game costs 70 euros!!!
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atma998 posted 29/04/2011, 03:51
@CGI I read a lot of your comments on GT5 vs. GT4 and have never seen a reference to the holidays. The only territory where GT4 has been released during the holidays...and at the very end of this period is in Japan and guess what if we compare the two games...GT5 is doing horrible. Anyway, it doesnt change the fact that the game is now selling less than 20k/week (or isnt it less than 15k now?) and even with some little boosts here and there is not on its way to reach 10 million at all.
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dsage01 posted 28/04/2011, 11:07
gt5FLOPPEDbadly there is something caleed holidays and GT legs never even took place yet so shut up
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dsage01 posted 28/04/2011, 11:06
Undertracked in EMEAA
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Michael-5 posted 28/04/2011, 05:19
and GT4 didn't get that same treatment? Looks like my bet with ethomaz is looking in my favor hehehehehe 9 million lifetime, 9.5 at best
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DonFerrari posted 27/04/2011, 11:34
lol @ people that create a acc just to troll one game and don't have the balls to use their real self to talk
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Donutsticks posted 27/04/2011, 07:19
The holidays should boost it over 7 million. whether it breaks 10 million would depend on bundling with the system and how soon the price drops. its still doing excellent for a full priced game. btw, 6 million isn't a flop.
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Gt5floppedbadly posted 27/04/2011, 04:29
at its current rate it would reach 10 million somewhere around 2018....but it is dropping every week and will be below 10k realsoon, if not already, especially with psn down and the debacle which is psn!
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Gt5floppedbadly posted 27/04/2011, 04:27
anytakers on a bet of the first sub 10k week worldwide, i believe within 2 weeks it will be under 10k worldwide, and it will never ever reach anything close to 10m worldwide, games that have a meta score of 83 DONT deserve sales that high at all, and you ps3 cheerleaders crack me up on this wall!
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atma998 posted 26/04/2011, 11:08
@CGI Why don't you take into account that GT5 was released during the holidays while GT4 wasnt? In that context it's easy to be ahead of GT4, don't you think? Now the game is selling less than 20k/week and its sales is going down week after week. How can you assume the game will reach 10M without bundles?
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Borrego posted 25/04/2011, 01:06
6.14m in less of one year? and the maximum price in stores.....absolutely shining!!!
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krazyb posted 20/04/2011, 07:29
damn 18k after this long is not bad considering the game is still at full price in majority of europe .
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ethomaz posted 19/04/2011, 05:41
@wbalmant GT5 sold 18,325 this week... not 10k.
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Michael-5 posted 18/04/2011, 10:11
Noodles!!!!! At this rate, 9 million for Gt5 since it's selling 50-60% of GT4's sales weekly.
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wbalmant posted 17/04/2011, 10:17
@ CGI-Quality Ok i have a xbox 360, but for me halo is the worst game of all time. A play Gran turismo a lot of time ago. I play GT1 with GTO twin turbo, play GT2 com o suzuki escudo, PLay GT4 with minolta. I like the game but for me the game is very hardcore, i don't play only GT3. For me for example GT5 is better than forza 3, but i prefer forza because is more easy to drive, have more assists. So this debate is not to downsize the game, it's about data of sales. The game is great, in sales and in gameplay, the game is now 4th but can reach easily the 3rd position on ps3 sales, passing GTA4. It's amazing sales lose only to COD. As i say the game have a big slow down, 10K this week, if vgchartz data is right. As i say the game need with optmistic scenario on japan and USA, to sell 6.4 milion of copies in EMMEA. No game in ps3 reach this. So i think that GT5 don't reach 10 milion of copies. Except with bundle. The debate is about data. If i am wrong on my analisys, say to me. As 4k1x3r do. Let's debate about data. And the data to me is very clear, the game can reach 10 milion, but in 4 or 5 years with sales standard very diferent from other ps3 games.
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A203D posted 17/04/2011, 03:20
@Feniris, i think Europe is undertracked and will end up at 6 mil when all is said and done. with NA at 2.5-3mil. Japan, 0.8 is a reasonable estimate.
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Feniris posted 17/04/2011, 03:14
Europe will break 5 million. Japan will eventually get to .85 mil. Dunno about America, over 2.5 million will be my guess.
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kickazz113 posted 16/04/2011, 08:11
wooo this sold more than gear of war 2 and gear of war 1!!!!
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VXIII posted 16/04/2011, 04:46
6,370 M shipped as of Dec 2010 , I find it a little ... strange at least that the game hasn't sold last year shipment yet.
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Biddles posted 16/04/2011, 04:40
Except its never hitting 10 million, though that was obvious from the start.
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DonFerrari posted 15/04/2011, 12:45
@CGI-Quality: They downplay, I just play it and I'm loving
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atma998 posted 15/04/2011, 03:15
what wbalmant said... and no it won't sell hundreds of thousands every holiday. We're not talking about Mario Kart here.
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jester2358 posted 15/04/2011, 02:33
wbalmart, this will sell hundreds of thousands EVERY holiday.
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dsage01 posted 15/04/2011, 12:54
It can reach 10 million no problem!
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sbvgc2049 posted 13/04/2011, 04:56
Seems that shitty minders always got a lot of energy to bash on good games with eager conclusion or shitty wishes,hehe.
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Fufinu posted 13/04/2011, 11:09
@Wbalmant - don't forget holiadys!
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wbalmant posted 12/04/2011, 06:15
If this game mantains sales at 20k in a week in average , what i am not believe,, and if data from vgchartz is right, you need a four years to reach 10 milion, only in 2015. Just do the count. Anybody here really thinks that game can continue with 20k of average? Lets see but it is not stupid to suppose that game don't reach 10 milion. As my previous wall the game need to sell 6.4 milion in emeaa what is miracle for ps3.
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MrMofongo624 posted 11/04/2011, 02:48
yeah, this is BULLSHIT! i agree with u cgi-quality, it will reach 10 million. I predict 10.5 million by the end of 2014
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atma998 posted 10/04/2011, 05:42
Seems that it won't reach 10 million after all...
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DonFerrari posted 09/04/2011, 04:10
Still in track to meet my forecast of 7M by the end of the year. 10M LTD - probably in holidays will have some nice bundle and go through 7,5~8M (i don't think we will se a real discount so soon
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Borrego posted 09/04/2011, 12:39
6.11m in 4 months?...for me.. simply awesome
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MrMofongo624 posted 09/04/2011, 01:58
yeah, its undertracked
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A203D posted 08/04/2011, 10:15
I think its still undertracked in Europe, because Polyphony recently said they've sold more than 6.37 mil copies!
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Aldro posted 08/04/2011, 01:52
Crazy sales and undertracked too LOL!
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MrMofongo624 posted 08/04/2011, 03:02
yeah, its undertracked
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Borrego posted 07/04/2011, 09:01
Envy!!!..it's what 360 fanboys have from ps3!!
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jugon21 posted 07/04/2011, 07:24
UN-DER-TRA-CKED
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leatherhat posted 07/04/2011, 05:32
Undertracked
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gustave154 posted 07/04/2011, 06:53
it will probably sell around 100k every month so 7 mil by the end of the year.
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Borrego posted 03/04/2011, 05:14
I think that will be 7m by years end too....and that is awesome for sony,everyone knows that in this moment 360 is the king between both because has one year advanced in marketsales!!!:(
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Heavenly_King posted 03/04/2011, 04:37
GO GT5!!!
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BanTiger posted 02/04/2011, 04:24
Amazing sale.... GT is still the King for PS but don't think it will reach 10 million. Racing is not as big as it use to be FPS is doninating the VG . Most of the ppl who wanted already got it.
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Ping_ii posted 02/04/2011, 02:34
will be 7m by years end!
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ArkZero posted 01/04/2011, 04:53
walls of text everywhere!!!
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wbalmant posted 01/04/2011, 03:03
4k1x3r You are right about that, but in week 28 the sales around 30K and continue in for a very long time. In week 50 stiil hold 30k. MAybe the theory of price cut is right, look GT4 data more closer in week 72 the game sales are 60k. But what is very different is the legs of the games. GT4 holds 30k every week or much than this in 150 weeks. The sales in USA and japan are more bigger (in week 28, to adjust the launch delay USA plus Japan have a 2.72 milion). Until now GT5 sales in japan plus usa are 2.3 milion. I think that game desacellerate very fast. But what nobody anwers to me how many copies the game can sell in EMEAA? How is the limit? Remember that PS3 is not a PS2. in 2005 PS2 have a 100 milion of consoles. PS3 have a half of this. Let's calculate again. Suppose that GT5 sales in USA are 2.9 milon and in japan 700k. 3.6 milion of copies USA plus Japan. To game reach 10 milion it's have to sell 6.4 milion in EMEAA. My question is the game can reach 6.4 milion in EMEAA? With most optmistic behaviour in USA and in Japan, it seems clear to me that the game don't reach 10 milion. In PS2 only two games sell more then 6.4 milion in EMEAA, GT4 and GTA san andreas. Right now the game in PS3 with more sales in EMEAA is black ops with 4.17 milion in EMEAA. I am wrong with some things as 4k1x3r says, but my question is PS3 is not PS2, the sales in EMEAA can reach 6.4 milion? I just do it because some people say that GT5 sell 10 milion no matter what, but it's not clear that the game reach 10 milion so easy. BUt it's a great sales no matter what and a good game. (PS: I don't have a PS3 i play the game in my friend home, but it's clear to me that other games like uncharted 2 are really better than this game, but have a poor sales comparad with GT5, i don't understand the behaviour of PS3 software sales)
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4k1x3r posted 31/03/2011, 06:52
Wbalmant- I don't know whether you're serious or not, but you're comparing an aligned weeks launch with a differed weeks launch. Gt4 selling over 100k on week 18 is completely normal, there's like 14 weeks difference with the launch in Japan, it was like the 4 or 5th week in Emeaa and americas. Check the Emeaa and Americas chart when you're on the 18th week of GT4 and you'll understand why it's so high. I have a table, and on week 18 GT4 is anything but close to 100 when aligned, and that's what matters.
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wbalmant posted 31/03/2011, 05:39
@Gearbox This is not completaly true in old versions of the game. GT4 sales in week 18 for example in america sells 1.53 milion of copies, in japan 1.06 milions and in EMEAA 2.53 milions. So the game sales in japan and in USA are great for GT4 and bad for GT5. IN week 18 the game sales are 100 k worldwide. I think that price cut is not valid argument, if you like of one game, you buy this no matter what. I think that GT4 don't have price cut and still sell 100k in week 18. So where the legs of GT5? I think that legs are burn. First of all the game is lauch in worldwide, GT4 not. And you have a pre-sales, much more great than in GT4 lauch. SO the game can Burnout in sales in first weeks. IN USA and in Japan the game reach the limit. The question now is how many copies this game will sell in EMEAA? MOre than COD BOPS? Maybe, But suppose that game sales in EMEAA are 1 milon ahead of COD BOPS, And COD BOPS sales 5 Milion in EMEAA, GT5 will sell 6 MIlion in EMEAA. ANd Suppose that game sells 2.5 milions of copies in Japan and in USA. The game reach only 8.5 milion in his lifetime. As i say you cannot compare this game with other GTs sales profile, this game is very different.
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ZBlacktt posted 26/03/2011, 07:30
A 18 year old male speaking comman sense. Then some OPINIONS.
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Gearbox posted 25/03/2011, 09:21
gt5* not gta
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Gearbox posted 25/03/2011, 09:21
@dsage01 - halo reach is xbox exclusive that sells mostly in america. there are 31 million xboxs in america. gta sells in emeaa where there is only 23 million (8 million less) therefore halo reach will have better legs due to the fact that it is also a popular game with a larger audience. call of duty sells more for the xbox in america but less in emeaa when compared to the ps3 version. now, call of duty is a multiplatform therefore doubling the audience. it has appeal in both areas therefore its sales are divided semi evenly (with america being larger due to the fact that there are more consoles in that market) so, to compare this games legs you could look at cod:black ops EMEAA sales which is about 20k a week and gt5 emeaa sales which is about 15k a week is VERY good. any questions?
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Mr Puggsly posted 25/03/2011, 08:51
@ dsage01 - The series definitely has legs... after price cuts. More people are willing to pay full price for Halo and CoD.
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dsage01 posted 25/03/2011, 06:33
@Gearbox - How come Halo Reach and Black ops are doing so well than?
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Gearbox posted 25/03/2011, 04:03
@dsage01 - sales will slow down a lot during this time of year. its known as the slow season. Christmas time they will pick up like crazyy
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dsage01 posted 25/03/2011, 02:09
The Emmea sales are messed up 12,000 this week! Either this game has absolutely no legs or this will be the 4th big adjustment!
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jester2358 posted 24/03/2011, 04:56
@wbalmant, I dont think i said anything about a timeline, I agree that it might take 4-5 years and that the state of the ps3 at that time will be important but the game will no doubt reach 10 million in its shelf life.
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A203D posted 23/03/2011, 10:43
@wblamant, i agree with your analysis. but the PS3 will be around for another 10 years, and it will be another 4 years before the PS4 is out. so there is still a good chance it will do 9-10mil lifetime.
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Turkish posted 22/03/2011, 05:12
This game will sell between 11-12 million lifetime
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wbalmant posted 22/03/2011, 02:32
@jester2358 Ok GT4 go to 10 milion. But this happen with 208 weeks. Not in one, two years but in 4,3 years, it's a lot of time with one big difference the ps2 sales are around 150 milion consoles. PS3 has one third of it. How many years PS3 can be alive? And i think the game are losing power. This week the game is not in top 40 and sales are just near 30k. GT4 for example sold in week 16 140k. In week 25 the GT4 holds 50 K. We don't see this moviment in GT5, the game has continuos drop week sales, if vgchatz is right. GT5 starts very well, but lose legs. Halo reach is a piece of shit, but the game sold 7.55 milion in week 16 and this week the game is top 20, but i am don't sure that the game reach 10 milion. It's hard to preview the future, but if nothing change much, i think is very dificult to game reach 10 milion. But what piss me off is the some people talk about 10 milion in 2012, the most selling game of PS3, but sorry no one reach black ops, and i think that in five or four years maybe can reach 10 milion, but how PS3 state in 2015? That is it.
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Miss piggy posted 19/03/2011, 08:34
Forza ? What's Forza ? Eh,eh,eh...
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Hephaestos posted 19/03/2011, 05:00
i sincerely thought this would sell a bit better :p at least we won't hear about 6 on and on and on and on now
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dsage01 posted 19/03/2011, 03:57
sad that Reach is outselling it for the past couple of weeks. Not showing any signs of legs so far!
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ivanpgcs posted 19/03/2011, 11:54
@wbalmant. With Platinum and bundles 10 million is possible someday
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dsage01 posted 19/03/2011, 01:49
@ pezus yeah maybe a bit in Emeaa
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A203D posted 18/03/2011, 06:59
@wbalmant. GT5 will sell for the next 5 years, and the game will still do good numbers when it hits the bargain bin in a years time. i think it will do its 10mil in 4 years.
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gustave154 posted 18/03/2011, 08:28
its gonna sell at least a million every year, so 10 million is definitely possible. by then GT6 will come already though.. i hope =)
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jester2358 posted 18/03/2011, 05:31
@wbalmant, it will be bundled eventually, it will sell hundreds of thousands every holiday. and its tracking ahead of gran turismo 4 which reached 10 million.......so riddle me that
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wbalmant posted 18/03/2011, 02:51
Ok let's talk again. I did some accounts and if vgchartz data is correct, GT5 will never get 10 milion. I assume that the game sell 30k in every week for 2 years or 96 weeks. It's clear that the game don't hold 30k for 2 years, but let's assume it. With this amazing sales, the game wiil reach only 8.9 milion of copies sales. For god sake how miracle can be done to game reach 10 milion??? Please tell me. This can be change if game is bundle with PS3, but i don't believe in this, this just happen with bad sales, not the case. With forza 3 they do this. This game is very good (not the best of all time, as i say below i know one hundred of games better than GT5) and the sales are amazing, the game reach 4th position in worldwide PS3 rank, sell more than uncharted 2, metal gear, final fantasy . It's a amazing, i think the game pass grand thief auto IV. But 10 milion? None game of PS3 until now, so please if you are a fan boy of GT5 ok, the problem is the that think is smart to talk that the game reach 10 milion. Please or i"m much stupid or you are that think in 10 milon. Fan boy arguments are not the best.
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Gearbox posted 17/03/2011, 07:01
@Halo_Reach - nub clearly knows nothing about christmas time
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rossoner posted 17/03/2011, 11:58
still full price across eu retailers and in top sellers, u dont have to be analyst to understand its selling great
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pslee posted 17/03/2011, 03:27
@ halo_reach, your name tells us all. FAK off the GT5 wall.
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postofficebuddy posted 17/03/2011, 02:14
Seriously? Honestly, if you actually looked at the sales trends you'd see that it's very, very likely to cross 8 million this year alone, let alone lifetime. The game has yet to go greatest hits, or for that matter receive any price drop and has yet to see any significant bundling, which will most likely come this holiday.
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Halo_Reach posted 17/03/2011, 01:20
its funny as hell to read these cheerleader comments on this game, it is doing 30k a week now, and dropping, and you guys think it has a chance at 10 million, it will LIMP to 7 million in 2 years at its current rate, and to top that off it is going to drop its rate from here not go up so it will prolly never reach 8 million
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sbvgc2049 posted 16/03/2011, 02:38
IMO,this one should get 10M sales.
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Kai Master posted 13/03/2011, 09:49
and 3rd Worldwide.
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Kai Master posted 13/03/2011, 09:46
My sales analysis : could reach in the end 4th place on PS3 in Americas, and 2nd place in EMEAA and Japan.
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Kai Master posted 13/03/2011, 09:39
My sales analysis : could reach 4th place on PS3 in Japan and Americas, and 2nd place in EMEAA.
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Kai Master posted 13/03/2011, 06:02
2nd most sold game on PS3 in Europe after BOps !
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mangoman10 posted 13/03/2011, 03:59
its offiical a Call of Duty game will be the first 10 million seller on PS3
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snyperdud posted 12/03/2011, 09:41
6 million? Already? Wow.
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||DeOn|| posted 12/03/2011, 07:41
so does anybody still believe that this game wont hit 10 mill? it hawked down 6 mill now only 4 more to go and im sure this will hit 7 mill still at full price and maybe even 7.5-8 mill at full price if the ps3 has a price drop
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osamanobama posted 12/03/2011, 05:45
america sales are also ~720,000 higher than forza 3's 1st 15 weeks. its 1.66 mill vs .94 mill. if it werent for all the bundling GT5 would have passed it up in americas. it probably will lifetime
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4k1x3r posted 12/03/2011, 03:34
GT5 fw >> Forza 10 weeks, GT5 5 weeks >> Forza 3 current lifetime sales (72 weeks). So full of win that haters will for sure come here to hate on this game.
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ethomaz posted 12/03/2011, 11:08
6 million
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M.U.G.E.N posted 11/03/2011, 08:15
so much win
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emmanuelyus posted 11/03/2011, 07:27
Very goog sales... official numbers:...... 7.5 M to 31/03/
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ethomaz posted 11/03/2011, 06:04
A little (< 50k in America)... over 400k in EMEAA.
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Iveyboi posted 11/03/2011, 02:12
Massive sales now..6million since November...sweet!
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postofficebuddy posted 11/03/2011, 01:57
Oh hell yeah, adjusted up. Your 10 million by September 2012 prediction is looking pretty good Ethomaz. There's absolutely no question that this will cross 10 million now.
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ethomaz posted 11/03/2011, 01:27
Ajudted UP.
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4k1x3r posted 09/03/2011, 10:14
Jester, at least 8/8.5m by years end, not 7.5. :p
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dsage01 posted 08/03/2011, 03:47
i know even after my thread still no answer why this site has it to lower than the actual sales!
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jester2358 posted 08/03/2011, 01:05
no adjustment? really? 7.5 by years end, that it however going by PDs shipped numbers not vgchartz
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DonFerrari posted 05/03/2011, 09:02
32K average and all is right
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DonFerrari posted 05/03/2011, 09:01
just more 1,36 million until the end of the year for my projection come true (and perhaps with adjustments less than 1,1~1,2M needed)
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dsage01 posted 05/03/2011, 08:38
everyone please go to my thread "why are so many ps3 games undertracked" if you think gt5 sales are undertracked and other ps3 games
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dsage01 posted 05/03/2011, 05:23
@elvisbin yeah i own both xbox 360 and ps3(made a little grammar mistake in previous comment) i like both play both but when i see the sales everyone says that all ps3 stuff is overtracked here but i think it is the exact opposite here in 2010 xbox 360 was overtracked many ps3 games were undertracked like this one and black ops! kinect adventures was also overtracked while move was undertracked. the least they could do is send us a reason why this figure isn't undertracked!!!
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NSS7 posted 05/03/2011, 02:12
I dont think VGChartz is accurate. Only Japan data was 100% accurate. American might be quite accurate but not Other datas. But at least they give us rough calculation how well certain game did.
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elvisbin posted 05/03/2011, 01:40
i have to agree with you dsage01, one can't help but suspect VGC is biased against PS3, when they always undertrack anything related to PS3, and overtracked X360 by more than 1mil even after Microsoft themselves had stated that they only shipped 12.4 mil X360 in 2010.
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dsage01 posted 04/03/2011, 09:36
wow come on does vgchatz hat ps3 or something! black ops is undertracked gt5 is undertracked halo reach is overtracked! i don't have 360 but i hate how a lot of ps3 games are undertracked and a lot of 360 games are overtracked!
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Iveyboi posted 04/03/2011, 08:26
This is trucking along as expected :)
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hasanwhy posted 04/03/2011, 06:02
@wbalmant Dude, have you seen the newest updates? Sure the game will not be fun for some. Aren't there games out there that don't please you even though it does in the eyes of others? Of course, I know people who LOVE gt5 and people who don't. Another thing is that comparing COD to GT is not a very good comparison. GT games have legs, long ones. They last much longer than COD's, so the notion that because COD sells more in half the time means GT won't it silly. If you don't like the game well too bad, but I do. And I and couple of my good friends do.
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Biddles posted 02/03/2011, 05:04
you do know VGcharts isnt accurate right.
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wbalmant posted 02/03/2011, 03:44
I don't know how vgchartz track the games data. But I trust more in a site than in poliphony digital. Same thing to kinetic. Microsoft talk about 8 mil in the end of december, but in vgchartz this is not true. But what i really don't understand is how the people here can like so much of one of wrost gran turismo. Just see the sales in japan is the worst result of all gran turismo. I like of the game, but is not a very fun experience, (in all gran turismo the fun is not the priority). This game is simulator. Every people that i know that have the game never do 100%. I think that with assists the game will be more easy, but it's not true, with assists the game continues to be very hard. And the game come with o lot of issues, you can't edit gears solely, just the final velocity, this is a simulator godamitt, how they lauch the game in this condition? I talk with my friend and he think that PD want to use the 7 processors of PS3 to boost the game, but probaly they problem with code, to program for 7 processors, the late is to adapt the code. The game is not from other world. Have a lot of cars, but only 200 is premium. The game don't have much tracks. Why the lauch is too late? I think it is a problem with hardware-software. But what piss-me off is the people that talk the game reach 10 M, as a profecy. Come on, none of PS3 games reach 10M. The most selling is MW2 with 9.1M. With vgchartz data the game sell only 60K in the end of week 10. MW2 sell 111k in the end of week 10 and don't get reach 10M, maybe never get 10M. GT5 have amazing sales but it's far far away from 10M. I think that in 4 weeks the sells goes to 20 or 30K to week. But it is a good game, but not the best game of all time. Sinceraly i have a list of one hundred of games better than GT5.
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jester2358 posted 28/02/2011, 03:43
@dsage01, your latest post seems reasonable. 6.0 sold to date seems right with the shipment info we have received.
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dsage01 posted 26/02/2011, 09:39
edit 6.3 million up untill december 31st so i'm predcitcting around 5.9-6.1 million as of right now because the american shipment and japan shipment are already almost sold out
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dsage01 posted 26/02/2011, 09:32
yahoocom1984 yeah i know that but it should have at least sold 6-6.5 million or else why would stores have asked for more copies if the first shipment hadn't sold out or was even near to selling out! if they shipped 6.8 million copies up until December it should have sold a lot more
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yahoocom1984 posted 26/02/2011, 10:22
dsage01, it's shippment data wise ass
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NSS7 posted 26/02/2011, 03:17
I hope sales gonna stabilize around 45k -55k
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Moren posted 25/02/2011, 11:51
Gezz, stop it. Shipped =/= Sold.
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A203D posted 25/02/2011, 09:35
Lets not be too hastey, it might not be untracked. i think it is. but we're getting a free service here, no need to get pissed off about it (well maybe a little). i'm actully more supprised GT5 hasnt been in the top 10 for the last 2 weeks WW, or in EMEAA.
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dsage01 posted 25/02/2011, 09:31
vgchartz is starting to piss me off as this is one of my favorite games!
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dsage01 posted 25/02/2011, 09:30
emeaa= under tracked 600k!
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dsage01 posted 25/02/2011, 09:30
japan=undertracked 20k
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dsage01 posted 25/02/2011, 09:29
america= undertracked around 150k
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three_33 posted 25/02/2011, 03:43
@ivanpgcs. *Three_33 crawls into the corner and hides.* :P
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 24/02/2011, 03:33
Most likely undertracked in EMEAA
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ivanpgcs posted 24/02/2011, 08:05
@three_33. GT5 ships 5.52 mil in 12 days. After ships another 850k (in December). Why do the stores bought so many units if they had not sold the first? undertracked 300k min!!!!!!!
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Shipping Total

11,950,000 Units
As of: September 30th, 2017

Opinion (1369)

hellobion2 posted 26/11/2023, 12:46
series is better than forza
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atma998 posted 02/04/2021, 03:29
10 years later, I'm coming here and yup, I was right when I was saying the franchise was on a downward trend.

GT6 did 5.22M and GTS did an awful 3.77M.
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VXIII posted 17/12/2015, 06:31
True. What a monster. I predicted 10.5M back in days. GT5 pretty much exceeded everyone's expectations at this point.
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VXIII posted 16/12/2015, 06:54
"GT5 total just shy of 12 million units (11.94). This pushes the 2010 title into second place within the franchise, second only to GT3’s massive 14.89 million"

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt6-sales-total-4-71-million-franchise-over-76-million-units/
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ethomaz posted 07/01/2015, 06:51
The last shipped data is 10.66m as of Mar 2013. Yeap I believe the shipment is at least close to 12 million right now.

If VGC is undertracking it then it is really a little amount... 11 million max like CGI said.
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Kerotan posted 07/01/2015, 03:40
@CGI GT5 sold pretty well the prologue sales for it were excellent too. Can you PM me the info regarding why you think Polyphony will update their numbers soon?
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