Xbox All Access Allows You to Purchase an Xbox One With No Upfront Cost, Option to Upgrade to Xbox Series X - News

This deal has real value in the US and UK, but in Australia its an absolute non-starter for non-Telstra customers.

I think TPG would have made more sense, especially with their sub-brands like iiNet, Internode, Netspace, Westnet, Adam internet and probably more that I have forgotten...

Or better still just do exactly what they did in the USA/UK, partner with a retailer and don't link it to some insane membership/subscription to an entirely unrelated service. Amazon.com.au or EB or JB.

Apple and Samsung must be in a desperate situation aswell since they have plans all over the place. Love your logic.

Apple and Samsung are selling a lot more than 20000 units a month. Your comparison and logic are flawed

Your the one saying this is desperate measures because they are opting a plan method Haha
Just like any major mega corp does.

If a company is selling 20000 units a month when they are supposed to sell 200000 a month then it is a desperate situation and Microsoft is taking every desperate measure to bring back Xbox back to competition so yeah it is a desperate measure.

Having a plan has nothing to do with desperate measures.. because its what mega corps do even with super successful products like the iPhone. You are basically calling anyone that uses this practice as desperare. Can you explain to me why Apple uses plans on a already super success product?

No not anyone, I'm just calling Xbox division desperate and every acting they're taking these days are desperate to get back to competition starting from hiring ex Sony staff to major changes in business strategies. They are really desperate and their worst nightmare of this situation carries over to next gen that's why they need at the very least to make sure that as many current Xbox users as possible migrate to scarlet otherwise Xbox is doomed. So it's a desperate situation and of you see otherwise then you're then that's your opinion.

I clearly have another opinion to your opinion. Haha my gawd what you just wrote made me chuckle. Business plans are business plans. All console makers are trying to make as much sales as possible hence why Apple have Phone plans because its far from being desperate, its because corps like Apple and MS know how to make money hence there standings in the world.

Yes but your opinion is wrong I'm afraid. Xbox division is not doing very well and comparing Xbox to Apple is just laughable. Proper comparison would be Xbox vs PlayStation vs Nintendo. Microsoft Xbox division is very desperate to compete with other games consoles makers, every decision they made in the last 5 years was questionable. Now they're so desperate that they copied Apple's business plan hoping that this can get them out of their misery

You continue to avoid the question that Apple uses plans to sell phones and they are not desperate yet a company that implements the same method is considered desperate.. let me make it easier for you.. if Sony or Nintendo implemented the same plan strategy are they considered desperate? Because you can bet that they will follow suit shortly.

And you continue to fail to understand that there is a big difference between a phone company that's selling hundreds of thousand units a week and a video game company thats losing customers every day. That's what led them to implement a phone company plan as their main objective now is to survive and get as many current Xbox users as they can to migrate to scarlet at launch. Yes but Sony and Nintendo aren't doing any of that and if they do the same then it's gonna be for completely different reasons. So your examples and comparisons were wrong from the beginning. I hope it's clear now

You have the worst failed logic. No body is forced to buy into a plan, a plan is just how mega corps rather deal. If a successful product uses that method when they don't need the sales than its a method not used for desperation. You are clearly just picking ands choosing your reasons for companies. Its a business plan model that MS would have adopted anyway regardless if they were on top of bottom in sales. Its a clever marketing strategy, But think what you wish.

I really don't know how to make It easier than that for you to understand, you're either helpless, Xbox fanboy or both. A video game company that's already struggling with sales adopting a phone company business model is desperate no question about it. They are just trying everything they can to keep Xbox users from migrating to PlayStation and Nintendo, there is no arguing in that. We saw the same thing with many companies when they're struggling they keep adopting every business model they come across to try to save themselves. So it is a desperate measure and if you continue to fail to see then I don't think any one will be able to help you understand. I would agree with you're ill-founded argument if we see Xbox phone instead of consoles then yes that business model would a smart move lol

Its not because MS would have more then likely adopted that strategy regardless of its success. Just because they are adopting what Phones use has nothing to do with being desperate. Adding extra options for your customers is far and beyond desperate.

Yes that is true only if they're in a good position to add options but they're not. They're just trying every possible approach to save whatever can be saved, starting with xbone sad, changing to subscriptions and every game is playable on PC making the whole xbox console completely redundant. And now trying to convince their customers that xbox can work like a phone with monthly contract and option to upgrade. That is a prime example of desperation and none of that is working for them.

xbone sad? You clearly hate Xbox. All I can say is you keep contradicting yourself by saying they are adopting a desperate method to gain sales when the iPhone and other super successful products use that method which completely destroys your logic. A contracted plan is an option. Desperate will be if MS were giving Xboxes away for free or selling at a really cheap price. Not making a customer pay more over a longer course of time.
Anyway I am done, believe what you want, I have better things to do.

yeah sure whatever man

Microsoft reported their highest Xbox revenue ever last year of 10 billion.

These type of plans make more money. Have you not seen the phone plans where a phone will cost $800 upfront or $1500 over 2 years..