Next-Generation Nintendo Console Could be Close in Power to the PS4 and Xbox One - News
by William D'Angelo , posted on 01 July 2023 / 17,878 Views
Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick being quoted in an email to Nintendo President Shunturo Furukawa during today's Microsoft vs FTC hearing revealed the power of the next-generation console from Nintendo.
The successor to the Nintendo Switch is said to have power that is "closer alignment to eighth generation hardware." The eighth generation including the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.
"Given closer alignment of Gen 8 platforms and our previous offerings on PS4 and Xbox One, it's reasonable to assume we can make something compelling for NG (next-generation) Switch as well," said Kotick.
Nintendo released the Switch in March 2017 and it continues to be a hot seller with it selling over an estimated 1.5 million units in May. That month saw the launch of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.
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He never said that. Why are we spreading misleading information?
Q. Even without Microsoft buying Activision, is it likely that ATVI would make COD available on future Nintendo hardware?
Bobby Kotick "...We missed out on this past generation on Switch, I would like to think we'd be able to do that, but we'd have to wait for specs. We don't have any present plans to do so."
"Given closer alignment of Gen 8 platforms and our previous offerings on PS4 and Xbox one, it's reasonable to assume we can make something compelling for the next generation Nintendo console as well"
He's just assuming, assuming Nintendo's next console would be as powerful as Gen 8
The title should be, Bobby Kotick makes an educated guess that next generation nintendo console would be as powerful as PS4 and Xbox One.
Even says they'd have to wait for specs.
With it likely being another hybrid console that is to be expected. Nintendo would want a Switch successor to have a battery life of 3 hours or more and would want to price it similar to the Switch at launch ($300-$350)
Kinda what I expected. Lots of PS4/Xbox One ports incoming.
Click bait then. Never said it, 2023 journalism.
Expected from Nintendo.
The next Switch needs to have way
more power in docked mode!!!
I would be pretty happy with a 60fps Zelda game on the next console. Both the PS4 and Xbox One had some pretty impressive looking games, and Nintendo will be able to take advantage that if this is true. Games like Ratchet and Clank and Kena graphics look fantastic and Mario, Zelda and Kirby, ettc games with similar technology will be just fine.
If you have an lg oled, you can already experiece zelda in 60fps., though it does drop to 45 fps .
I'd like to see different versions of the system like a hybrid version and a table top version only with more power. I have a Switch and never use it as a portable system. I would gladly remove a screen I don't use for a bit more power for the same price.
The Switch 2 GPU could be not that fast and still have beautiful graphics. To do that, they need more CPU power (that ruined Pokemon) and more ram like 16GB, and an SSD. I don't care if the GPU is just half the RTX 4050 but everything else needs improvement, especially ram capacity.
It's not a "CPU Controller".
It's a "NAND Controller". - And anything that uses NAND, uses a "NAND Controller" of some type.
The NAND memory inside the Switch absolutely has a NAND controller, it's just built on a simpler and lower-end spec based around SDIO.
But for all intents and purposes, the Switch has an SSD.
Don't be silly. You are out of your depth on this one.
SSD controllers are NOT defined by the number of channels they have.
The PS5 SSD has 12 channels and some low-end PC SSD's use a single or dual channel controller.
Channels refer to the number of flash chips the controller can talk to simultaneously.
Low end SSDs usually have 1 to 4 channels; high end SSDs usually have 8 channels, some have 10-12 channels.
Some high-end Enterprise SSD controllers have 16 or more channels.
However, some extremely low-end and cheap SSD's with only a single chip stacked QLC NAND are often single channel... Which happens more often with the 2230 form factor drives due to their limited space. (30x22mm)
Fact is... All forms of NAND storage are "SSD" or "Solid State Drives" - As they are NOT mechanical spinning disks.
There. The more you know.
The most surprising issue with games on Switch are the loading times. Games are read from flash memory, either internal memory, game card or SD card and should be faster than reading from disc. Unfortunately the loading is very slow. If Nintendo provides faster reading from memory, I could live with PS4 specs on the go. Though, I would be a bit disappointed to have such low specs in 2024.
The Switch SSD is using a very narrow controller, so it has very limited throughput... Low access times though relative to mechanical HDD's
The CPU though is also holding back load times. Hence the Switch's "boost mode".
Why does Nintendo always lack on power?
Is it becoz they want that hybrid type?
Forgive my ignorance!
Keep costs down. Nintendo kept pace with its competitors till the Gamecube, which was a failure despite being more powerful than the PS2. Sony and Microsoft were willing to sell hardware at a loss, which Nintendo is less able to do because they don't have other major business lines besides gaming. So, they decided to change their strategy, and focus on things other than graphics.
I'm fine if the next system is around base PS4.
I was dreading some of the speculation that the next system wouldn't even match base Xbox One, leading to another Nintendo system in-between Xbox 360 and Xbox One in specs.
Imagine what they can do with ps4 hardware, after what they managed to do with totk on switch. Games like death stranding and tlou2 on ps4 are still some of the best looking games ever.
So expect collections to be 1 game to be on cartridge and the remaining on digital lol
That kind of comparison does not mean much. I would have preferred if the diff was made in comparison to the switch itself.
Why? I have 34 consoles, 4000+ games, since 1980. I play everything. I have almost all consoles last 30 years. You can send me your friend code and play online with me (and we can put it on youtube). No problem. But....Forza 4 (xbox 360) > all Switch games (graphics). Kinect Sports > Nintendo Switch Sports (graphics). Blue Dragon > any Switch Pokemon game (graphics). Nintendo needs to improove Switch 2 a lot (in graphics). Not because the graphics and resolution only, but the frame rate (the Nintendo Switch biggest problem in my opinion).
Maybe textures, but visually , totk is superior to forza
Yes, I agree but since the architecture is different it does not make sense to me to cross-compare them.
But if we assume Nvidia will still be the chip manufacturer we can use their latest mobile Sku to derive an approximation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
the Switch used a T210 variant (a 10-15w chip) the latest SKU from Nvidia in that TDP range is either Orin Nano (7-15w) or Orin NX (10-20w) which would give us the same ballpark as the 8th gen in terms of theoric capability. So right about what Kotick mentioned.
However, those chips use the Ampere architecture, if Nintendo can get access to a Lovelace-based one maybe it could pack a little more punch.
I agree with EpicRandy on the general one generation in power and also with Radek on Switch being more powerful than WiiU due to architecture.
Quite possibly, however, it should fall in the same ballpark as both chips I've listed above if Nintendo targets the same TDP which is to be expected if they keep the same form factor.
Maybe they can double the dock station with an active cooling system when docked so that it can reach a higher TDP like 25w+.
that is terrible. ps4 and xbox one were already outdated rm 2013 imagine a console released in 2024 or 2025 weaker than an xbox one.
It's going to be a hybrid again. Do you really think Nintendo would want to spend the money on getting a handheld around PS4 Pro or even Xbox One S territory? That would cost them a lot and they would pass it on to the customer.
The only practical way to have Switch 2 exceed PS4 specs is for the dock to make a lot more of a difference than the minimal Switch dock.
There's no long-term market for a home console for Nintendo anymore. There was diminishing returns for years until the fluke smash hit of the Wii and then the large failure of the Wii U following it.
It would be roughly on that power level with modern chipsets and features not on those console like RT cores and DLSS. Look what Nintendo achieved on a Wii U pro in Switch. So PS4 power with Pro features a lot more can be done. For a small portable at an affordable price that's amazing and better than a Steam Deck.
So a system coming out in 2024 will be close to the power of a system that came out in 2013.
Great for First party games but I expect a lot more cancelled games or Cloud games for third party.
Because whenever Switch 2 launches there won't be PS4 games being made and not impossible for PS6/Series2 to be near launch
That's a bit worrisome. I expected 3-4 tflop in the newer system.if Ms is to keep their promise to have cod on switch or switch 2. That's what they need. At least 3-4 tflops. If series s can do it I know switch can to
No it wouldnt. COD is still cross gen. A new Switch is going to have PS4 processing power, but with a better cpu and more modern architecture. So it'll be able to run graphically scaled down COD titles for the rest of the PS5/XSX gen at least
That's a shame, was hoping for more of a Series S level of power
Unless they give us more power on dock that is basically impossible on a hybrid launching on couple years.
That was a crazily unrealistic expectation. Even the recently released $1000 ASUS ROG Ally using the very latest silicon doesnt match the Xbox Series S. Theres a gulf in performance between mobile performance and desktop performance because mobile has to account for both power and heat envelopes within that handheld format. Youre not gonna get Xbox Series S performance in a handheld at an affordable ($300 to $450) price for like 5 years.
