SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWL SMASHES NINTENDO SALES RECORDS

dadaozei (on 13 May 2009)

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mmolichking3 (on 23 February 2009)

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cxb1003 (on 12 August 2008)

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Captian_Twig (on 23 March 2008)

MSG4 has no chance of beating it.

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Strategyking92 (on 22 March 2008)

so, she said they have 2 more games coming up? sad.

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Onimusha12 (on 21 March 2008)

And people still try to work in underhanded insults to Nintendo in their faux compliments. Can't people just be happy for someone's success?

In the end it may just be that the 360 functions more efficiently as a software selling factory given its core appeal to the highest buying consumer base: 15-25 year old males. Great games will sell more on the 360, Good games will sell more on the 360, Mediocre games will sell more on the 360 and Bad games will sell more on the 360. Its a console which has established a mentality where the "game-a-week" consumer is on the hunt for the next game for it, and anything with name recognition is a shoe in. That's not to belittle the 360, just something to envy it for.

I guess when Gears of War 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, MGS4, FFXIII, Gran Turismo5 all come out we'll have to Halo3 as well. If they outdo Halo3, make sure the champaigne is ready. If they don't, make sure to memorize a good list of excuses.

Though honestly, SSBB's comparison to Halo3 is partly if not mostly to blame on the handful of overzealous Nintendo supporters who feel the constant desire to play John Lucas and make outrageous public declarations and bets which given Nintendo's inconsistant sales and product supply this generaiton is just unwise and reckless.

When your console is on the grow from its lowest generation ever, suffering from supply problems, growing pains and an already established track record of unpredictability in software sales, it might benefit you to keep a low profile and celebrate afterwards when its warranted. It helps avoid situations like this. Though in all fairness to say people wouldn't compare SSBB to Halo3 regardless is just foolish too.

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heruamon (on 20 March 2008)

Yeah...great sale, but it didn't top Halo 3, but that's right...Halo 3 was HYPED...and SSBB wasn't...roflol. Oh well, there a difference standard for 360 than everybody else.

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Renar (on 18 March 2008)

Agrees with Goddbless more than with NekoSOM. Halo3 is at 7.5M, and while dead in Japan, and a crawl in Other, which still helps, it is moving along well in NA, doing .5M since Christmas.
If it has 3 more years in it plus holiday sales, I think it could make 10M.

SSBB really had little chance to overcome Halo3 in NA. The NA X360 > NA Wii and as pointed out, the X360 players are much more oriented to buy a game like Halo3 than the percentage of Wii buyers.

A better showdown will be in Other. Wii is already 1.5M more than X360 there, and Halo3 sales % of total Other X360 was less than in NA X360. While it's quite unlikely that Other would sell the 1.2M+ needed to overcome the total Halo3 sales in its first week, it perhaps possible to sell the 900k needed to sell more than Other Halo3 did in its first week.

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RPG_Fanatic (on 18 March 2008)

"NEW RECORD!" (USES SSBB ANNOUNCER VOICE)

great to see SSBB doing so great

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Goddbless (on 18 March 2008)

@ NekoSOM

I love your false facts. Last time I checked Halo 3 was still charting in the top 50 almost every week in NA. This week it's at #24! It will also continue to sell until the next Halo game comes out. Plus you have to take into consideration there are a lot of great games other than Halo 3 on the 360 right now. Also the Halo 3 total is 8ish not 7ish and much closer to 10 million already.

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Johann (on 18 March 2008)

Why is it that people can't just be happy for the success of the game without comparing it to Halo 3?

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hunter_alien (on 18 March 2008)

Nazna : take in account that Halo had nothing from Japan , and not much from Europe .

Still , damn this is impressive :D Nintendo did great :)

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BlueVette (on 18 March 2008)

Taxman: Well.. not totally accurate. There are motion controls. The wiimote+nunchuck has motion options that you can turn on. Which I DID.. which I really love having. It makes getting a smash attack off very dependable and MUCH easier to smash to the left, then to the right, to help clear out an area of foes quickly. And personally, I MUCH prefer the wiimote+nunchuck to the GC controller for a great many reasons. And I do not believe the game was 'optimized' in any way shape or form for a particular controller, in that, all of the schemes work fine for the controller you prefer.

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Kyros (on 18 March 2008)

Aidman: "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." (Terry Pratchett) ;-)

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mr-money (on 18 March 2008)

Nintendo is truly coming into its own this generation. And they're not even doing anything different game-wise than they were last gen with the Gamecube. They just got Wii popular in the mainstream, and now people suddenly like Smash Bros. and Super Mario. It's quite sad really, but very good strategy on Nintendo's part.

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scydrex (on 18 March 2008)

Just to answer my own question, the short answer is no.
Super Mario 64 was the best-selling game of its generation (Saturn, PS, N64), but it did not belong to the best-selling platform at the time.

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NSS7 (on 18 March 2008)

expect 1.8 mil sales in Europe for SSMB 1st week.

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Aidman (on 18 March 2008)

I'm sorry for everyone is comaprin' Halo 3 sales with SSBB in North America especially in the USA!! you know why Halo is a pure american emblem in the gamin'g world!!! not like a Super Smash!!!! Super Smash is a Nintendo Planet Emblem!!! only SSB and Melee 100 % beaters can understand!!!! that's why startin' with a 1.5 million is real success!! the Nintendo franchise sales had this magic to keep lastin' in future!!!!

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NekoSOM (on 18 March 2008)

Haha, I knew people would try to compare it to Halo 3. The two are completely incomparable, for multiple reasons. Firstly, the 360 has a far more dedicated fanbase, and considering most people bought the 360 exclusively for Halo 3 should it be surprising it sold so much in the first week? Secondly, Halo is a US phenonenon, whereas Super Smash Brothers is a worldwide phenomenon. As someone already pointed out, Smash Brother's worldwide total will be comparable to Halos' in the first week. Then finally, I think people forget the legs Melee had it on it. If I'm not mistaken, it was a top 10 selling Gamecube game throughout the entire lifetime of the system. The last game had a staying power that amazed many. I'd fathom with the much higher userbase of the Wii, coupled with a more casual audience, will increase that likelihood. Halo 3, on the other hand practically fell off the charts after the first month or so. Fact is, everyone who wanted it bought it in the first week.

Just to summarize, you can't compare hardcore-centric to casual-centric games. Their sales trends are completely different. But I will tell you this: 1.5 million games sold in the first week for a game like Brawl guarantees it will be one of the best selling games of all time. None of the Halo games can claim that, hyped as they are. This game will easily reach 10 million (which, btw, none of the Halo games have been able to reach, and Halo 3, at 7 million-ish, will likely never sniff that number either). If Nintendo can take Wii sales to the next level, it might even reach Pokemon-like numbers...but that's a tall order.

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FaRmLaNd (on 18 March 2008)

Brawl will most likely outsell halo 3 in the long run but there's no denying that halo 3's first week was extremely well orchestrated by Microsoft considering the smaller userbase at the time of its release. I do think many people count out halo 3 too quickly in regards to its sales, it has outsold halo 2 in 2 regions out of 3 so I wouldn't be surprised if it outsells halo 2 in the long run. Furthermore it will be difficult for any game to catch up to it. Its not a battle that will be won in a single week like some people seem to think it will.

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Onimusha12 (on 18 March 2008)

I've only seen Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and Army of Two commercials. No Brawl here.

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bardicverse (on 18 March 2008)

Nice to see that at least the game industry isn't affected by the dying economy here in the US.

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scydrex (on 18 March 2008)

My own speculations about the long haul agree with you, Zen.

The game simply appeals to a much wider audience. You like fast-paced fighting action? Got it. You want online matchups? They're there as well. (Still hate the friend codes implementation, though). And it has something no other game out there has right now, which is to bring a nice sense of nostalgia as you play the characters, listen to the music and play in your favorite stages from games past.

The death-match shooter genre can be loads of fun, but it definitely is geared towards a much narrower demographic. However, this demographic (young male hardcore gamers) happens to be the one that normally spends the most money on games, so that could even the competition a bit.

This creates a question I had not given any thought to before. Perhaps the answer is obvious and I'm too dumb to know it. Is the best-selling game on the best-selling console in any given generation also the best-selling game for that generation (across all platforms)? If the answer is always yes, then that certainly bodes well for Brawl surpassing all other current-gen games.

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ZenfoldorVGI (on 17 March 2008)

What!? 9000!?

Great numbers for Brawl.

Also, at goddog, I think it will come pretty close to Halo 3 worldwide, and I certainly think it will outsell Halo 3 over the longhaul. Disagree?

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goddog (on 17 March 2008)

@Onimusha12 , how have you not seen a brawl commercial I cant turn on the tv without seeing one about every 15 minutes. adultswim, comedy central, history channel, tnt, the other channel L&O is on, even on freaking CNN.

Now I will Say It does not even come close to halo 3 with its own soda and burger, but dont act like they didnt push it, picked up any gaming mags? 3 page spreads for the game

also i really wish theyd get a new tagline or just have a few with out that "wii would like to play with you" in it

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pearljammer (on 17 March 2008)

@Naz

My mistake. Thanks for pointing that out =)

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pastro243 (on 17 March 2008)

whats the record for overall consoles and games, does anybody know?

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dschumm (on 17 March 2008)

Considering Galaxy had a combined 1121123 units first week and is now over 6 million, Brawl may have 3 times that launching in off months. Wow

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JaggedSac (on 17 March 2008)

Nice all caps post. Nice numbers. Not nearly as much as Halo 3's but good none the less. And I doubt that the money generated off this game will be anywhere near Halo's. I mean they were selling 100 dollar versions of the game. And they were selling out of them. The game budget wasnt nearly as big as you guys make it seem. Bungie even said it was a fraction of the cost of Hollywood movies. Hopefully there will be enough people that play online in SSB and the online infrastructure is good enough to provide decent play.

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Words Of Wisdom (on 17 March 2008)

Simply amazing. It's a shame it couldn't top Halo 3, but all in all those are pretty satisfying numbers. I'm sure Sakurai (IIRC) and HAL are jumping for joy.

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Astrodust (on 17 March 2008)

What is up with the low hardware totals for the Wii.

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naznatips (on 17 March 2008)

No catprog, Nintendo's week is the same as VGC's week.

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catprog (on 17 March 2008)

Is nintendo's week the same as vgchartz's week.

In other words will some of this actually be in 2 vgchartz's weeks?

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DMeisterJ (on 17 March 2008)

@ FishyJoe

It's just that we're not allowed to do that when we post threads, so I found it odd.

sheesh. No reason to get angry.

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FishyJoe (on 17 March 2008)

The title is all caps because I was lazy and copy/pasted. Are you happy now? Sheesh.

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BCNR34 (on 17 March 2008)

wow, i bet fishyjoe nearly blew a gasket when he heard this, i mean he typed the heading in all caps WHICH WE ALL KNOW ADDS IMPORTANCE, he must have been really excited.

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Sky Render (on 17 March 2008)

I'd say a game breaking a Nintendo sales record is fairly significant. Take a glance at the top-selling games of all time, and you'll see an awful lot of Nintendo in the top 100 entries of the list... A game breaking Nintendo's first-week sales record is big news.

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DMeisterJ (on 17 March 2008)

@ Onimusha 12

No bitterness.

SSBB did excellently.

I was just saying that it hadn't dethroned Halo 3 as the top game. So I failed to see why FJ made the title all caps.

But nothing against SSBB and the Wii, they've both done great this week.

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naznatips (on 17 March 2008)

Halo 3 launched to about 3.8 million units first week worldwide.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl now has about 2.5 million first week worldwide, and should end around 3.25-3.5 million worldwide with Others.

So no, it won't topple Halo 3, but it will do damn good for tiself.

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Onimusha12 (on 17 March 2008)

that's a good point PearlJammer, but still food for thought to think how the outcome for Nintendo may have differed considering the Wii is forging new ground with a much larger (and new) audience than its predicessor.

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Chadius (on 17 March 2008)

Heehee, great first week sales.

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Sky Render (on 17 March 2008)

Super Smash Brothers Brawl! Versus... Nintendo Sales Record! Ready... GO! COMPLETE! NEW RECORD!

Couldn't resist...

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FeArLeSs (on 17 March 2008)

I hate how fanboys compare these sales to halo3 .. when halo3 was the biggest hyped up game in history.. they even sold it at 7 eleven stores LOL !

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PhatLaosBoi (on 17 March 2008)

yet another "nintendo-mination" moment. it's the best fighting game i've played since... Melee haha.

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pearljammer (on 17 March 2008)

Onmusha
I'm not entirely sure Halo 3 HAD to be advertised for months with a huge budget to eclipse SSBB. I'm not trying to take anything from Brawl, just being fair to both. I mean 2.8m is still double what brawl did.

I've also seen the brawl commercial at least 7 times. While that doesn't compare to the likely 20 times I'd seen the Halo 3 one, it certainly wouldn't account for another 1.4m.

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celine (on 17 March 2008)

And the second one is Pokemon Diamond/Pearl ( I forgot it :-P ).

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celine (on 17 March 2008)

@taxman
Not quite if you think that the third best selling game on DS is New Super Mario Bros...

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darklich13 (on 17 March 2008)

Impressive, but nowhere close to Halo 3 sales.

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taxman (on 17 March 2008)

I played the game and i found it very fun even on single player. However, don't you think is ironic that the best selling game for the Wii doesn't have any motion controls and is optimized to be played with the wired GC controller? I mean i had to dust me old controller and bring the wii closer to plug it in, very retro i must say...

It just shows that motion controls and a new controller design can only get you so far...

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daactualfact (on 17 March 2008)

erikers, it's people like you that sends people like you from the site. you seriously are annoying.

anyone, is he really popular on the site?

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Onimusha12 (on 17 March 2008)

DMeisterJ, thx, Ajax and erikers... could you four be anymore bitter? Please take the petty Nintendo contempt somewhere else.

@Erikers, Nintendo has a bad habit of underestimating sales, they play it safe. ioi has proved them to underpredict time and time again. Stop trying to use this as a vehicle to convince yourself the games and consoles you support are actually doing better than the numbers here reflect. I don't know why you're trying to use ioi's alleged overtracking Nintendo to support your theory that Sony and MS are undertracked weekly on this site.

In reflection of the game not oudoing Halo3 -

Halo3 had to be advertised over several months at an expense which dwarfed most Motion Picture advertising budgets.

SSBB did this without any significant advertising. Hell I've not even seen one commercial for the game. Imagine if Nintendo had advertised this game to the same extent as Halo3. Imagine if they actually had the Wii's and Game Disc's to support that kind of demand.

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daactualfact (on 17 March 2008)

ajax, what is your popularity on the site? once you answer that question, use that answer to answer this:

Does anyone care what you think?

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naznatips (on 17 March 2008)

ioi was about 25% high (NoA doesn't include Canada), so not perfect, but hardly the end of the world. Pretty good. Net first week profit will probably be signifficantly higher than Halo 3 when you consider the difference in dev costs and advertising budget. Surely Nintendo couldn't be happier.

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daactualfact (on 17 March 2008)

People like erikers, dmeisterj, and thx only lead me to believe that they are expressing pure jeolusy! it's practically obvious! but, if it was a game on 360 or ps3, you guys would spread the word to the whole damn site!

(any of you 3 can feel free to take me head on if you want to. i'm ready for you guys.)

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celine (on 17 March 2008)

Sorry, do any of you knows how many copies Halo 3 sold in USA on first week second MS PR ?

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MontanaHatchet (on 17 March 2008)

I've seen plenty of commercials for Brawl on TV, so don't give me that crap.

Still, very impressive numbers. It will be interesting to see how it sells in the end.

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BluJay (on 17 March 2008)

Wow, I couldn't except any less from the big N. Congrats Nintendo.

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playnext3 (on 17 March 2008)

record sales for nintendo????wow impressive

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celine (on 17 March 2008)

What is really interesting in this PR piece is that they ( Nintendo ) revealed the final shipment figure for Smash Bros Meele : over 7 million copies on a userbase of 21 million ( 33%).

How many copies do you think Brwl will sign on next NPD month ( or even VGChartz)?

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Zucas (on 17 March 2008)

First of all Erikers shutup, no one ever wants to hear what you say.

Secondly about 900k in USA first day, plus about 100k first day in rest of NA would make ioi's 1.25 million estimate pretty damn close to the real thing.

Overall about 1.5 million for first week is pretty damn good. Now remember these are Nintendo's estimates for first day and first week sales, meaning who really knows if they are 100% accurate. I'm gonna say though that a good first week estimate for NA Brawl sales is good anywhere between 1.4-1.8 million.

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Ajax (on 17 March 2008)

this is a commercial, a pure pr statement, also pointing at mario kart and wiifit

strange that vg chartz copies this and posts it without any comment

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FilaBrasileiro (on 17 March 2008)

Holy shit, that's insane.....

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erikers (on 17 March 2008)

This is why ioi shouldn't make any statements like "smash bros sells over 1.25 million on the first day!" because every time the real numbers come out they end up being substantially different. Of course if nintendo hadn't released this by the end of the month I bet the numbers would have been off by more than 600k easily just like COD 4 was for consecutive months.

Good thing nintendo saved the site from some more "the numbers are never right" criticism for at least one game.

Try not to delete this again as it's not bashing it's just my feelings on the matter. Moderate people who actually troll the site for a change. thanks!

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end (on 17 March 2008)

stop lying, you didn't post anything :p

all this and nintendo didn't have to waste millions to promote it unlike halo 3.

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erikers (on 17 March 2008)

Talk about overzealous mods, how sad.

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erikers (on 17 March 2008)

heh, who actually erased my post because I mentioned that ioi's 1.25 million on the first day statement doesn't fit with this? Completely spineless...

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DMeisterJ (on 17 March 2008)

Can you edit the title to take out the caps?

It really isn't that serious.

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r3av3r2k1 (on 17 March 2008)

erikers that's exactly the same i was thinking this is an official nintendo statement that contradicts vgcharts numbers in a big way

even so great numbers for brawl and this will see huge sales over time

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MANUELF (on 17 March 2008)

Only 127k Wii sold this week in NA? Very low than I expected.

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thx1139 (on 17 March 2008)

God I hate this game

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Mummelmann (on 17 March 2008)

Good numbers, but I believe the Eu/Others numbers will be much, much lower.
Less than half, probably 5-600k first week with decent legs.

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DMeisterJ (on 17 March 2008)

Great first week sales.

I mean, Halo 3 still eclipsed them but, awesome nonetheless.

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scydrex (on 17 March 2008)

Relax, man.

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Kyros (on 17 March 2008)

I don't know, I tried it at Gamespot and I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about. It must be a lot more fun when you know your way around because in a couple minutes play it was far too simplistic and rather boring and backgrounds didn't look very good (unless they moved some pretty impressive animations)

Nontheless congrats nice to see a non-FPS so successful.

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outlawauron (on 17 March 2008)

@ Soriku

Huh? The bomb was dropped a week ago.

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kamil (on 17 March 2008)

I'm surprised at those comments. This number (for first day) is lower than what ioi suggested even if we add 10% for Canada. However no number for 1st week was given but general consensus was that it will be close to 2 mln. So 1.4 (or a little more than 1.5 mln with Canada) isn't that impressive. I was actually expecting more.

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Aidman (on 17 March 2008)

A Super Smash from Super Smash Bros Brawl ... Go Nintendo GOOOOOOOOO!!
Jap sales are more than 1.5 million + the NoA sales it's all about to hit the half Super Smash Bros Melee sales!! in on ten weeks from it's first release without the Other ( Europe ) release this game is about the Ten Millions for sure there's no doubt!!!

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scydrex (on 17 March 2008)

The articles clearly states in Nintendo of America's history...
It also mentions ''after just one week of sales''. So they are obviously referring to the american launch only.

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MANUELF (on 17 March 2008)

Only in U.S?

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scydrex (on 17 March 2008)

You mean one week sales or lifetime sales, Vagabond?

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The_vagabond7 (on 17 March 2008)

sweet, seems unlikely though it will break Halo 3's record now though. "Others" will really have to pony up and buy it like mad to make it do that. It should come close though.

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scydrex (on 17 March 2008)

At least the X360 have something to rejoice about, SSBB not selling better than Halo 3 on week one. However, if the game has any decent legs at all (I'm predicting it'll have massive ones) it should surpass its lifetime sales at some point this year.

Let's see if GTA IV does even better than this

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iclim4 (on 17 March 2008)

From the time spent typing this message, 14 brawl copies have been sold ^_^

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vampire xtc (on 17 March 2008)

damn 120 per minute

i was in bestbuy friday night and there was a line for brawl to be put back on the shelf they used 4 spots and dudes kept raping it guy had to keep goin to the back for more every few minutes mad frustrated lol

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TheSource (on 17 March 2008)

Consider that Galaxy did 500k week one according to Nintendo - in November no less.

This is March.

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ctk495 (on 17 March 2008)

I am happy for brawl I hope it continues with strong sales.

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naznatips (on 17 March 2008)

Should be ~1.6 million in NA with Canada added in. Pretty sweet.

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scydrex (on 17 March 2008)

Damn...
Pretty impressive, considering all the great selling games present in Nintendo's library.

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bigjon (on 17 March 2008)

I think NOA may have lowballed it like they did SMG. They said SMG was 500k when it was actually closer to 900k.

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daactualfact (on 17 March 2008)

In all honesty, I thought Brawl would debut with 1 million max last year. (no more than that.) I was majorly proved wrong! (it may even be more than 1.4 and around 1.7 million or so.)

anyway, BRAWL IS NOA'S BEST DEBUT!

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fazz (on 17 March 2008)

I was part of the Brawl launch. I feel so lucky.

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Bobbuffalo (on 17 March 2008)

AWESOME!

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__XBrawlX__ (on 17 March 2008)

Wow... THATS OVER 9000!!!!

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BottledSpringWater (on 17 March 2008)

120 per minute.
DAAAAAMN!

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elgefe02 (on 17 March 2008)

Excellent... 2 per second

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Stever89 (on 17 March 2008)

I suppose that's only US? I don't expect Canada (and the rest that's included in NA) to be much more than that. I was thinking 1.5 to 1.8 or so, though I wasn't able to enter the prediction league. Good sales.

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daactualfact (on 17 March 2008)

BRAWL BROKE A RECORD!!!!!!

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