USA Retail Sales Preview - January 2010

After watching the interview, I interpreted as the host throwing 360 in there. Reggie had enough time to hear 360 and stop himself, but still said, "I do believe so." But really, I think you can interpret it the other way, too. The real point is that it was an easy bet. There's pratically no way NSMBW would undersell the PS3 version of MW2. Well, unless it was complete crap, but I don't think anyone was predicting it would be.

I regard you presuming you have to explain a conversation to me as somewhat patronising. The quote is "on one paticular platform, I believe so." The second 'on 360' comment made by Keighley is an interruption. At no point does Reggie agree to the 360 condition, he explicitly stresses 'on one particular platform.' You are being disingeneous when you say Keighley makes it clear that they were talking about the 360 - because he does not clarify the comment at the end. He does not confirm that 'I do believe so' was a reply to his interruption or a continuation of Reggie's sentence. He leaves it as it is, and it is unclear at best. Reggie didn't need to weasel out of a 360 bet because there was no 360 bet to weasel out of - he was simply reticent to be held to a condition of a specific console, when 'one particular platform' would suffice. The bet was being imposed upon him by Keighley, and Reggie was opting for the safest condition to accept the bet on.

I didn't think I was being patronizing. I was pointing out how you were being disingenuous by writing the quote as "on one particular platform, I do believe so." If you just read a transcript that would be understandable, but if you didn't you're being disingenuous because that hides the fact that Keighley asked "on 360?" before the line "I do believe so". Keighley made it clear they were talking about 360 and Reggie only agreed, he never said "no, I just mean it will sell better than at least one of the other platforms", instead he said "I do believe so". In the bit before, Reggie was stressing that he didn't expect it to beat the two combined, he made no attempt to weasel out of competing with the 360 version alone. Understandable, as NSMB did outsell the 360 version easily, if only he had not chosen NPD when he should have said worldwide data. Mentioning NPD was his slip up IMO.

So as usual, VGC underestimated the ps3 in december numbers ( 100.000 down) and overestimated 360 (up 50.000) and refuse to correct them. logical

This just proves without a doubt that vgchartz is a legit tracking website.

Do you think that patronising me is a good way to argue your point? Interruptions, inspite of what you think, can be part of conversations. Keighley asks Reggie the question 'on 360' and Reggie stresses his answer again 'on one particular platform.' This isn't the answer Keighley is after so he then interrupts him before Reggie gets a chance to finish what he's saying. It's a 30 second snippet of a larger interview edited together by Gametrailers. They wanted to get Reggie to make the 360 bet but it's clear he wasn't comfortable with that, so states 'on one particular platform' to leave himself enough waggle room. I'm afraid you can't pin that bet on Reggie based on that conversation.

Fwap, have you watched it yourself? A conversation is something were two people respond to the other. Writing the quote as "on one particular platform, I do believe so." is disingenuous, that's not how the conversation went. Calling Keighley saying "on 360" an "interuption" is disingenuous too, it was part of the conversation, Reggie was not speaking at that time, and he replied to it positively with "I do believe so". If he didn't mean 360, he would have replied with a negative.

@Demotruk This isn't about being a Wii fan or not, it's simply about misreporting what a person said. Now you're misrepresenting the gamealmighty.com article: "Viewed as a whole, the GameTrailers TV episode gives the impression that Keighley wanted to place a bet involving the 360 version of Modern Warfare 2 alone, but that Fils-Aime would not entirely acquiesce and would instead agree only if he was given some wiggle room by including either the 360 version or the PS3 version." Reggie did not say 360. He did not directly reply to Keighley's constant interruptions. And you don't need to tell me about hating having to repeat myself about this over and over. If this is such an issue for people, they can watch the video to see that the spoken sentence is "on one particular platform, I do believe so." It's pretty clear that Reggie did not want to take the 360 bet.

In fact, that gamealmighty.com article is quite aware of what they took out. They present it as “On one particular platform – I do believe so,”. What do you think was in the place of the hyphen there? Why do you think it was there at all, and not a comma? It's because if you would watch the video yourself, that's where Keighley asks "on 360?", and that's what Reggie was responding to when he said "I do believe so". I'm a Wii fan, anyone who reads the forum here should know that. I'm not saying this over and over because I want Reggie to lose, I'm repeating it because I hate when something false gets accepted as the truth simply because it's what people are more comfortable with.

fwap, that quote is missing something. There is a pause in the middle, when Keighley asks "on 360?". Reggie responds to that with "I do believe so."

@kratos3390 Maybe he's a Michael Pachter fan?

So reggie decides to place a bet against a console which the wii is outselling more than 2-1 which already had less predicted sales than the other version so he wouldn't be wrong. Very impressive on your predicting skills Reggie!

Reggie won. Only' an Idiot would say otherwise. Just becasue he thought it might beat the XBOX doesnt change the fact he DID beat the single platform he bet on. Fanboy rage is really getting extreme.

Reggie wins again!

@Demotruk "On a single platform, I do believe so" is what he said. http://www.gamealmighty.com/1up-misquotes-mario-vs-modern-warfare-sales-challenge-alters-terms-of-bet Or watch the original interview here: http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/gametrailers-tv/77?ep=77

Oh the same arguments every time the bet comes up. Yes, we know he said "on a single platform". Do you know what he also said? "I do believe so" in direct response to the question "on 360?".

ME2 banging out 1 million WW is awesome!

LOL here we go again with the Reggie bet. I don't understand why people try to put words in the man's mouth - he cearly said "single platform". So the man met the terms of his amazingly vague bet, which he was prompted to make by the Gametrailer interviewer.

Reggie actually won, as he said "any single platform." Which to me was a safe bet, since Mario is one of Nintendo's most popular franchises (especially in 2D form) and everyone knew that the PS3 version of MW2 was going to sell fewer copies than the 360. If he was a real risk taker he would have bet against the 360, but then of course he would have lost. I mean to me that makes more sense. The Wii has a much higher install base, with Mario being being a top franchise. The 360 has the higher install base between it and the PS3, with shooters being the most popular genre on it. But now Reggie gets to cop out by pointing to the PS3, even though it has a smaller install base by ~18.8 mil. In my opinion, MW2 is a higher accomplishment selling 5.5 mil on a 21.76 install base, as opposed to selling 4.5 mil on a 31.5. 3 mil on a 12.7 install base isn't too shabby, either. This is in no way to belittle the sales of NSMBW, as they are great, just to point out that it was an easy bet.

Reggie didn't lose he won he said that it will outsell it on a single platform and it outsold the ps3 version so he won

I am surprised Reggie lost but it's good for Nintendo to lose once in a while. Especially seeing how it's still dominating the hardware market despite it's competitions attempt with price cuts etc. MAG was somewhat had disappointing sales as I expected it's numbers to be around 300k-400k for such a highly developed and probably expensive game to make! I'm really excited to see both the 360 and PS3 go neck and neck in sales and I think the next motion control gimmick(still a gimmick until they prove themselves like the Wii) will be the difference in terms of who will finish second this generation.

360 is not kciking, just that the game sells.

360 is still kicking some ass.....Great sales for Mass Effect2

In all major markets save Japan, the PSP is pretty much dead. As for Reggie's bet, he lost because he said the 360 version. Either way you cut it, MW2 has edged it out for the month in total NPD numbers. Worldwide, NSMBWii is the clear cut victor but Reggie mentioned the 360, the NPD numbers and the month of January as the cut off date.

Reggie won - NSMB easily outsold MW2 on the PS3. Another 2 months, and it will have exceeded the 360 version. And yes - the PSP must be dead. No PSP title that sold 70k or more in the month (mind you, VG may not track PSP titles that well).

Is the PSP dead yet?

He didn't lost... I think...

So Reggie will have officially lost his bet? Oh no! This is the worst thing that has ever happened!

On the chart it says Dec-09 when it's surely Jan-10, no?

didnt the ps3 sold like 1300000 in npd december? doesnt vgchartz adjust when npd is released?

one more day before NPD