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Tales of Symphonia: Ratatosk no Kishi

テイルズ オブ シンフォニア-ラタトスクの騎士


Namco Tales Studio



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11/11/08 Namco Bandai
06/26/08 Namco Bandai
11/13/09 Namco Bandai

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Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World (Wii) > Opinions (426)

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Leni posted 21/11/2008, 05:27
go and buy this game now!

nice sales! i hope it keeps up!
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Phoenix_Wiight posted 21/11/2008, 04:49
off to a better start then vesperia. yay.
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damkira posted 21/11/2008, 03:43
I'm really loving this game.. I don't think the bad reviews were justified at all.

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MontanaHatchet posted 21/11/2008, 01:23
Sc: And your prediction...
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Myviewing posted 21/11/2008, 01:15
America's here to save the day! Hopefully doens't decline that much in coming weeks.
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Zucas posted 20/11/2008, 09:51
Well at first it wasn't exciting me too much but now that I'm 3 hrs into it I'm loving it. The relationship between Marta and Emil is just so cute haha that it keeps me going. Not too many games I've played have that in it.
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sc94597 posted 20/11/2008, 06:00
@Kenology If it did 156k in Japan first week, it will do 100k in U.S first week. Actually I think it has a good chance of doing double or close to it what it did in Japan first week. ToS was more popular in the West than it was in Japan.
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Leni posted 19/11/2008, 10:14
i find it awesome as well....

prefer it than the 1st one!
less anime-style videos and more things to do

a MUST buy!!
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Wetcoaster posted 17/11/2008, 01:40
For anyone who had any doubts, this game is definitely awesome.

Tenebrae is frickin hilarious. =D
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Kenology posted 15/11/2008, 11:43
Hoping this has a solid debut in NA of atleast 70k. 100k would be really nice! :D
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AJM Ruler posted 14/11/2008, 03:55
Dam, adjusted down 20k in Japan. Looks like it will never reach 250k, oh well.
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kopstudent89 posted 13/11/2008, 01:50
ouch japan sales down... NA plz save this game!
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Wetcoaster posted 12/11/2008, 11:01
Japan sales adjusted down? =[
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Wetcoaster posted 12/11/2008, 05:21
So...very...excited! =D
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c03n3nj0 posted 10/11/2008, 08:25
Nice japan sales, this game will definitly sell a million.
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kopstudent89 posted 09/11/2008, 09:11
predictions for first week in NA?
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Crystalchild posted 01/11/2008, 08:17
european release plx :P
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silverlunar777 posted 18/10/2008, 07:09
Maybe it will reach 300k when it is all said and done.
Which is pretty good IMO.
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Soriku posted 14/10/2008, 04:07
Christmas should raise sales a bit. It really is the only notable JRPG right now on the Wii ;3
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c0rd posted 12/10/2008, 02:19
VGC had us thinking it had legs, giving it a shot at the first ToS's sales. Finding out it wasn't possible was a bit disappointing.

Besides that, the game did fine. 240k not just for a Tales game, but a Tales spinoff. I wanted this to be the first million selling JRPG though
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pmaster4 posted 12/10/2008, 12:04
is Lloyd really the bad guy for this game??
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SaviorX posted 09/10/2008, 11:14
I like the "America" boxart.
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BengaBenga posted 09/10/2008, 02:32
Why are so many people complaining about the Japanese sales. 240k is great for a JRPG in the Tales series.
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nordlead posted 08/10/2008, 02:31
I just pre-ordered this through the VGChartz Amazon store for only $36.99. I thought this game was going to be full priced, but hey, cheap is good.
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Soriku posted 06/10/2008, 10:03
I like the US box art.
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Soriku posted 27/09/2008, 04:21
Reached 240k. On to 250k.
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Chrizum posted 26/09/2008, 12:40
It seems this game won't even reach 300k in Japan. It bombed.
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kopstudent89 posted 25/09/2008, 10:49
sub 1000 sales...
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Soriku posted 22/09/2008, 01:03
@Chrizum, alfredo

The game was adjusted down from 240k to 230k. Week 8-10 was in the 4k sales but you can see it dropped :3
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alfredofroylan posted 21/09/2008, 04:37
And why is this overtracked? Do you have some info about the sales on this title.
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Chrizum posted 19/09/2008, 03:25
@ c0rd: why is it overtracked?
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Soriku posted 18/09/2008, 10:00
Overtracked? NOOO!!! :(

Holiday will still give it a boost though :P
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Senrii posted 18/09/2008, 03:14
Please sell more, sell more :)
I just started playing ToS again, and it's still a very nice game..

I want this game.. I want this game.. I want this game!
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c0rd posted 18/09/2008, 01:38
Ouch, just as I feared, the game was heavily overtracked, lol... oh well. Still did okay, I guess.

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Zucas posted 16/09/2008, 05:28
Hmm showing consistent sales and not dying off. Interesting. Well seems it'll make it solidly to the holidays. Well done.

Looking about about around 300k by end of the year in Japan. No scheduled release date for PAL yet but doubtful if that area would be a big selling region anyways. However ToS has pretty large brand here in America considering the last one on GC was quite a hit considering. So I'd say it'll open to decent sales and really get those holiday boosts and hopefully be able to hang around to at least push it over 500k by Q1 2009. Hope for more haha. But in an unsaturated market of RPG's should have that many problems in America.
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Voltaire posted 14/09/2008, 04:57
The japaneses sales are ok, i hope NA sales OBLITERATE it though. Im sure it will too.
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whacker41 posted 11/09/2008, 08:50
it's sold above 4k for 4 weeks. very nice.
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Soriku posted 11/09/2008, 03:12
It sold 4,637 this week!
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Nazkull posted 09/09/2008, 11:26
It sold not bad in japan, now lets see how its gonna do in NA.

I hope its gonna do better than in japan
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Soriku posted 07/09/2008, 09:22
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kopstudent89 posted 05/09/2008, 10:46
yeah i noticed another 4k...
300k? plz?
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Soriku posted 02/09/2008, 04:01
It sold 4k+ units week 9! Yes! :P

Next week it should hit 240k+. 250k+ imminent!
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Soriku posted 25/08/2008, 09:24

The next game in the main series is going to be on the Wii :)
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Nazkull posted 25/08/2008, 04:40
At least, this game is selling more than Tales of Vesperia. Lets hope that there will be more Tales games made for the Nintendo wii.
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Soriku posted 24/08/2008, 06:02
1k boost! :D Hit 250k in Japan!
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whacker41 posted 22/08/2008, 07:05
About a 1k boost up from last week.

Hopefully it will stay at 4k a week for a while.
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Kenology posted 22/08/2008, 12:07
Crawling to 250k in Japan. Should def get there by the end of the year. The Americas will make this a million seller by December for sure.
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Soriku posted 19/08/2008, 11:09
The game is seeing a minor boost this week...

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sc94597 posted 18/08/2008, 06:02
Only a few months away. :) Maybe this could do 250k lifetime in Japan. I see it being much larger in the West though.
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Lolcislaw posted 16/08/2008, 11:37
I cant wait for this game... any news about American/EU release?
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Soriku posted 15/08/2008, 05:40

Looking at ToV's first week doubt ToS: DotNW will have bigger sales than ToV. Did anyone expect ToV to outssell ToS: DotNW though? ToV still sold well though.
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lin210245 posted 14/08/2008, 06:25
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Hoffmole posted 14/08/2008, 06:21
I hope this sells better than Vespia. I'll pretend it's because I'm sick of Microsoft trying to sell the 360 to Japan by throwing money at JRPG developers, but really it's because deep down I'm a just a petty, snotty little fan boy.
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ClaudeLv250 posted 14/08/2008, 11:18
"Did you really quote yourself?"

Um, no. That was you...
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Egghead posted 11/08/2008, 04:00
Was expecting more, dropped a lot
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Thekirby45 posted 11/08/2008, 12:31
May Buy but I haven't played Much of the Gc Version

I just need a good rpg for the wii
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Soriku posted 08/08/2008, 02:48
ToS did good in EU so this will definitely hit EU as well.
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whacker41 posted 06/08/2008, 09:52
Please god, let this game see the light of day in PAL regions.

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Soriku posted 04/08/2008, 02:13
I wasn't going to lol anyway. I was gone for the week ;)'s been out over a month. No duh it dropped, but it's still maintaining 6k+ a week although it keeps dropping. If it continues like this it might reach 240k-250k+ which would shut up some more people.
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DMeisterJ posted 02/08/2008, 02:34
Looks like Soriku won't be lol-ing today.

This game dropped off hard.
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CrazzyMan posted 25/07/2008, 10:10
First week sales:
Famitsu - about 151k
Media Create - 137k
Average between them is - 144k
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MontanaHatchet posted 24/07/2008, 02:14
Did you really quote yourself?
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ClaudeLv250 posted 24/07/2008, 11:05
"Claude: This is selling well for a spinoff, but plenty of spinoffs have sold high amounts and far greater amounts than this."

Not Tales, and that's all that matters. Other franchises are a nice excuse, but they have no bearing on reality.
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ClaudeLv250 posted 24/07/2008, 10:58
Tales games don't have legs so don't hold your breath.
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Zucas posted 22/07/2008, 06:28
Yes I'm hoping it can hold onto that 10k a week as well. I mean we all knew it would have large dropoffs but we were still hoping that it could hold on. And it's quite possible considering very few Wii titles have held on. So far only the Wii series and Mario Kart Wii which leaves very few legs titles. Maybe this can be added to the bunch.
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MontanaHatchet posted 22/07/2008, 11:48
Soriku: You know it will happen, but you're just sitting there grinning, leaving it as a "possibility."
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Soriku posted 21/07/2008, 02:15
Tales sold 11k last week and is going to sell 11k this week (according to TheSource) as well :) TALES LIVES!!!

I'd lol if this hit 300k or something just because of legs.
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MontanaHatchet posted 21/07/2008, 02:20
Well except that Microsoft pays Japanese companies huge sums of money and often funds development of their RPGs to get them on the 360.

Pure profit is unlikely to be beaten.

And you think that the console with the highest userbase in Japan will be dominant in a genre made solely in Japan, mostly for Japanese people?

Well, I can't say I disagree.
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whatever posted 20/07/2008, 03:48
@Montana, proud?? lol. Just stating the facts. I'm sure the developer doesn't care about the install base, just sales of the game.

I don't think there is any doubt that by the end of this generation, the Wii will be the dominate JRPG console.
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MontanaHatchet posted 19/07/2008, 10:12
Whatever: Hmm, you must be so proud that this game is set to outsell Blue Dragon, especially considering that the Wii userbase in Japan is ten times that of the 360's (not to mention that the 360 userbase was even smaller when Blue Dragon launched) and that Blue Dragon is a new IP versus an established IP.

Claude: This is selling well for a spinoff, but plenty of spinoffs have sold high amounts and far greater amounts than this.

But then again, anyone who would have expected better must be an angry fanboy out to get the Wii. Besides, where would the outrage have been for other Tales games? Constant tracking of sales number is a fairly recent phenomenon, and even if people were closely tracking games back when the last Tales spinoff was launched (when was that, now?), it wouldn't matter because nothing except a computer could scan the entirety of the internet to search for bits of text from someone dissatisfied with the sales of a specific game.
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whatever posted 19/07/2008, 01:43
Will pass Blue Dragon in a week or two to outsell any RPG on the 360 in Japan. Will easily outsell TOV.
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Soriku posted 19/07/2008, 01:18
200k :)
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Faxanadu posted 18/07/2008, 10:39
that sounds weird....maybe i need to finish the first before getting into this game.

my problem is time...
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Leni posted 18/07/2008, 05:46
Tales of Symphonia sold 0.32 in Japan, this can do it as well!!

come on, it's selling good!
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Zucas posted 18/07/2008, 04:32
Guess we are looking the usual here for this game. About 300k unless it shows some legs. But nothing in Japan aside from Wii series titles, MK Wii, and Monster Hunter have really shown legs there.
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ClaudeLv250 posted 18/07/2008, 12:49
"Tales spin-offs usually don't sell all that great."

Actually they do...for spinoffs, of course. Quite telling considering that this may be the best selling spinoff yet.

Of course this was never really a problem until angry fanboys started pretending like this game wasn't selling well. I can only wonder where the false outrage for all the other Tales was.
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Soriku posted 17/07/2008, 05:52

Agree lol. But VGC should have it over 200k...
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whacker41 posted 17/07/2008, 05:06
I'm sick of waiting for the 2nd week numbers. It's been around 2 weeks since the first week numbers were added.
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MontanaHatchet posted 15/07/2008, 11:56
Hmm, doesn't sound like a very good game then.

I could do this all day.
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Soriku posted 15/07/2008, 11:27

Because it has only two playable characters, monsters for party members, no world map (though they really didn't add this because of development time, etc.) =/
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Faxanadu posted 15/07/2008, 12:52
so why is it that the first ToS is considered main series and the second ToS is now a spin off?

I am confused.
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Soriku posted 15/07/2008, 01:36

Tales spin-offs usually don't sell all that great. The main series totally own spin-off sales but ToS: DotNW is set to be the best selling Tales spin-off.
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MontanaHatchet posted 14/07/2008, 07:40
What there's to know about Tales? I know that the game is a spinoff, but it's not like a spinoff selling well is unheard of.
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Soriku posted 14/07/2008, 03:24

Seeing as how you know nothing about Tales, your answer isn't a surprise :P
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MontanaHatchet posted 14/07/2008, 05:42

Spinoff schminoff, it doesn't make a difference.
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ClaudeLv250 posted 14/07/2008, 05:23
Seems like this may become the best selling spinoff in the series to date. Congrats Namco, and more Tales for the Wii!

Now, to see how this performs in the West...
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Soriku posted 12/07/2008, 05:31
lol. Enough teases ;)
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MontanaHatchet posted 12/07/2008, 12:53
Soriku: Oh, then Vgchartz must have overtracked it!
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Soriku posted 11/07/2008, 11:15
What are you talking about? Famitsu has it at 177k.
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--OkeyDokey-- posted 11/07/2008, 05:19
He's absolutely precious.

Famitsu has it at 26k second week (160k total)
Looks like I was being generous after all.
Might not even hit 200k :)
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MontanaHatchet posted 11/07/2008, 10:43
OkeyDokey, isn't he adorable?
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Kenology posted 11/07/2008, 03:52
I remember this happening with ToS1 for GC in NA... lot'sa demand, but not enough copies shipped to retailers. You're right though, the retailers might not have ordered enough copies. I hope the game can atleast reach 200k-250k. :(
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Soriku posted 10/07/2008, 09:38

It might also be retailers fault...

Namco makes great games and all but when it comes to shipping and such (basically all the stuff that happens after the game is released) Namco pretty much fails at that kind of stuff X_X They need tips from MS lol.
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Kenology posted 10/07/2008, 09:02
I'm disappointed in Namco for not shipping enough copies of this game after the initial launch. They might've killed the game with such a stupid move. Here's hoping we see decent numbers in week three.
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Soriku posted 10/07/2008, 02:38
More like Soriku was right all along ;)
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--OkeyDokey-- posted 10/07/2008, 01:56
lol, Soriku damage control.

*grabs popcorn*
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Soriku posted 09/07/2008, 05:51
Oh...and it sold 90% of what was left of the shipment this week.


I think it'll reach 200k total in Japan this week. I hope it still outsells ToS on the GC. We'll just have to wait for the next shipment (ship more Namco! >:o)!
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Soriku posted 09/07/2008, 05:05
TheSource and y-koron said Namco didn't ship any more for this week. They had a few more copies from the first shipment. No wonder sales are low!

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MontanaHatchet posted 09/07/2008, 11:20
I was teasing, gee.
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Soriku posted 09/07/2008, 02:05

lol. Well, at least I'm not saying I'll wait for Famitsu/MC :P's still VGC numbers. Better to wait for hard numbers than (educated) guesses, eh? Or...whatever you'd like to call TheSource's predictions. Numbers will be up soon anyway. Hopefully tomorrow :3

The announcement of a new main series Tales on the Wii made my sadness go away though :P
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MontanaHatchet posted 08/07/2008, 09:22
Soriku, you're only waiting for final data because you love this game so much. If it was Metal Gear Solid 4, you'd be claiming its doom before even loading the article
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Soriku posted 07/07/2008, 05:37
lol Okey stop making predictions!

Meh, read my comment in the article.

I'm still awaiting final VGC data though.
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--OkeyDokey-- posted 07/07/2008, 05:28
Ouchies indeed. And I was just trying to piss off soriku D:

300k seems unlikely now.
15k third week? :P
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outlawauron posted 07/07/2008, 04:59
Okey wasn't far off if the prelims are right.

40k second week!

And bundle that with the fact everybody else had it lower. Ouchie.
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Soriku posted 06/07/2008, 09:45

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MontanaHatchet posted 06/07/2008, 02:23
OkeyDokey predicted low for Okami as well.
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Soriku posted 05/07/2008, 05:50

Dude...even ToS on the GC didn't dip that low second week. I bet this could've sold more if Namco shipped more. I mean my God, it sold 90%+ of its total shipment.
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whacker41 posted 05/07/2008, 03:01
30k sounds a little harsh. I'm gonna guess 70-80k
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--OkeyDokey-- posted 05/07/2008, 02:18
30k second week.
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Soriku posted 04/07/2008, 04:47
80k-90k would make me happy. Then 40k-50k, 30k, 20k, 10k, 5k, 3k, 3k again, 2k, dead. I thin, it has potential to reach 380k sales lifetime. 400k if lucky.
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Voltaire posted 04/07/2008, 02:30
I hope it gets at least 500k before the American release. I think its possible.....a bit of a stretch but it could happen.
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bluster posted 03/07/2008, 05:07
I would say 80k next week, just as Montana said

In four weeks it will go above 300k
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Kihniƶ posted 03/07/2008, 01:53
Maybe 400k in Japan.
But sure it will reach million in worldwide sales.
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MontanaHatchet posted 03/07/2008, 01:27
I predict 80k 2nd week.
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kopstudent89 posted 03/07/2008, 01:22
debuts less than the GC version. Still 2nd week sales might be a different story, where the GC version dropped to 40 k
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Faxanadu posted 03/07/2008, 09:20
thanks Montana.

I would imagine this hits one million.

Good opening in Japan, I think.
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MontanaHatchet posted 03/07/2008, 05:57
I put up the new box art, gents.
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okr posted 13/02/2008, 10:45
^Yes, so what? It's a sequel. And the graphics look better, fresher, sharper IMO.

Very nice screenshots.

"The protagonist is named Emil". Emil, nice. Those Japanese developers, you have to love them... :D
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Faxanadu posted 02/02/2008, 04:12
looks quite similar to the first one.
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Soriku posted 26/01/2008, 01:44
Added tons more screens.
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ClaudeLv250 posted 14/01/2008, 01:22
...who are these people claiming to already own the game?
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Vanadium posted 11/01/2008, 06:11
Added new screenies.
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rudyrsr8 posted 28/12/2007, 09:00
Updated the game with some info that i found and the pic from the trailer.
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Soriku posted 14/08/2007, 09:16
This game is gonna be awesome .
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lolita posted 14/08/2007, 05:08
wow nice screenshots! where are they from? (clueless O-o)
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Soriku posted 13/08/2007, 10:08
Post! When this comes out I'll remember this post .
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Shipping Total

215,000 Units
As of: September 30th, 2008

Opinion (426)

Machina posted 21/11/2020, 12:28
Japanese shipment figure only.
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goldmario79 posted 10/11/2016, 05:48
Just finished ps2 Tales of Abyss before starting this. The nunchuck works extremely well for an active battle system like TOS here.. storyline not so I guess it about evens out.
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b00moscone posted 09/03/2016, 10:21
On its own, a pretty solid game, but doesn't quite live up to Tales of Symphonia imo.
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atma998 posted 30/01/2014, 11:10
Finally managed to reach 500k! Guess I was wrong 3 years ago :)
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itachi-89 posted 04/03/2011, 11:15
the others sale are 100-150k so its good for a low budget tales game, so namco cant complain, they always release the wrong tales games in west, so i hope the fans and hardcore players buy tales of graces F, so namco continue to release tales games in west. its our last chance. i have the wii version of graces and i am going to buy the us and the others
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dark_gh0st_b0y posted 27/02/2011, 06:51
game quality is not even close to ToS, but still a great game
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