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America - Front

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Alternative Names

グランド・セフト・オートIV

Developer

Rockstar North

Genre

Action

Other Versions

All, PC, PS3, XBL

Release Dates

04/29/08 Rockstar Games
10/30/08 Capcom
04/29/08 Rockstar Games

Community Stats

Owners: 1,423
Favorite: 34
Tracked: 7
Wishlist: 6
Now Playing: 15
 
8.6

Avg Community Rating:

 

Grand Theft Auto IV (X360) > Opinions (166)

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Strategyking92 posted 27/06/2008, 12:13
MS, you idiots!!! Why didn't you bundle it!!??!?!?
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toastboy44562 posted 24/06/2008, 08:49
this should not be compared to sa it should be compared to gta 3
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wareagle372 posted 18/06/2008, 03:25
infinitely surpassing GTA's previous sales (combined of coarse).
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FaRmLaNd posted 11/06/2008, 11:38
The sales are amazing considering its not the holidays and the series has a smaller userbase then last gen. It'll still sell like 15 million combined which is a success no matter which way you look at it.
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Oemenia posted 05/06/2008, 11:55
8.5 sold so far, its tracked at around 9 mil here, so its overtracked by a bit, especially considering when publishers numbers are somewhat exaggerated
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Kyros posted 02/06/2008, 03:38
"it just can't compete sales wise with GTA: San Andreas"

big surprise SA had 100m PS2, GTA4 has ~30mHD consoles. At 8.75m sold games in less than a month not selling as much as SA is a)not surprising and b) not exactly terrible
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Bagaren85 posted 02/06/2008, 10:02
Great sales, awesome game.
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Oemenia posted 01/06/2008, 07:06
Actually 360 software sales are a LOT better than the XBOX. Yeah its only ahead by 2 million in the first 18 months, but that doesnt include Halo 3 (though it had Gears). But importantly, the XBOX had two or three times as many games in the same period
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vgcgamer posted 01/06/2008, 05:19
You're right. The PS2 DID have a huge install base. That's actually my point. PS2s sold like hotcakes from the time it was launched till even to this day. Last month 124k PS2s, 188k PS3s, 187k 360s, and 714k Wiis were sold in the US.

Only 2 months in the PS2s history has it sold less than what the PS3 sold last month (April of 2004 and last month). The PS3 has already had 9 other months where we've seen less than 180k units sold in the US.

With GTA IV saturation already high, it will be slow going from here on out based on PS3 and 360 sales (360 sales are much better, but are only comparable to first gen Xbox sales).
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MontanaHatchet posted 01/06/2008, 03:47
Fun game, though subtitles are a necessity. But the driving system is superior.
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Oemenia posted 01/06/2008, 01:32
Initially yes, they will drop like a rock, it wont stay like this for long, SA had MUCH more sustainable sales mainly due to holiday period but also the HUGE PS2 fanbase. But i think that eventually, it has the potential to hit 10-15 mil. Its wishful thinking, but this gen, games dont come out too often, hence itll stand out even more as the one and true killer app, but also, this is a game that just about anybody would and IMHO should buy.

The 360 and PS3 are going to be supported for a long time, and also the next GTA is AT LEAST 2 years away (most likely 3), so its got time to sell as well, but also by then itll have a larger userbase to sell on too.
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Aj_habfan posted 30/05/2008, 10:01
And the fact that PS2's install base was monstrous.
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MontanaHatchet posted 29/05/2008, 08:18
Thanks, VGCGamer, for ignoring the fact that San Andreas launched in October (near the holiday season).
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vgcgamer posted 29/05/2008, 04:33
Wow! This IS amazing. When you COMBINE PS3 GTA IV sales with Xbox 360 GTA IV sales, you get GTA IV outselling San Andreas 45% in week 1 and 16% in week two.

Week 3 an week 4 saw sales BELOW San Andreas's by 2% and 9% respectively (not even including Japan numbers)!

This is extremely impressive for San Andreas, when you consider that the gaming industry was smaller in 2004, SA was exclusive to ONE system (PS2), and was still based on the old GTA III engine (very little improvement to graphics). Compare this to the overhyped GTA IV that is based on the brand new and advanced RAGE engine that uses euphoria!

I think GTA IV sales will level out, but as I had suspected it just can't compete sales wise with GTA: San Andreas. Check it out for yourself. Seeing IV sales drop like a rock was no surprise to me.

Oh well, time to move on to bigger and better things, MGS4, GRID, Far Cry 2, and so on.
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FaRmLaNd posted 28/05/2008, 01:35
When NA data comes in GTA4 will be above halo 3 was at this point in its lifespan for the first time. Further proof that GTA4 should easily outsell halo 3 on the 360 alone.
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damarine08 posted 26/05/2008, 08:54
The Best Game Yet.
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Oemenia posted 25/05/2008, 04:03
Exactly, SA had a HUGE userbase to rely on, the fact that IV even comes close is amazing given the casual power of both the PS2 and SA
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obieslut posted 24/05/2008, 08:04
Why is th eps3 always getting mentioned in this ection when the ps3 version of the game is also on this site
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FaRmLaNd posted 24/05/2008, 03:58
8.39 million without Japan in 3 weeks. Thats absolutely amazing.
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Kyros posted 22/05/2008, 10:39
"IV has only outsold SA by 500k copies in Europe in the first 3 weeks"

Wow you really try to find something bad with the sales do you? SA had a userbase of what? 100m PS2? And GTA4 outsold it? How can you spin that into something negative? More than 1 in 4 PS3 owners has it now. Just insane.
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vgcgamer posted 22/05/2008, 05:26
vgcgamer posted 22/05/2008, 05:25
I'm not surprised by the numbers at all. Initial sales have been incredible. This was totally expected as the game was overhyped across the board (perfect scores from almost every reviewer, despite the numerous issues/complaints that have been raised by many players).

So, it doesn't surprise me that sales have dropped at a faster rate than with SA on the PS2. In fact, IV has only outsold SA by 500k copies in Europe in the first 3 weeks and that's taking into account BOTH systems (360 plus PS3)!

This indicates to me that most who intended to buy it, have already done so. Don't forget the limited base. It can surely grow, but April sales for the 360 in the US were a pathetic 188k units and 187k (even with GTA IV coming out at the end of the month). Compare this with the 714k units of Wii sold (nearly 2x both systems combined). Ouch!

It's still early, so let's see how it levels out. Look at SAs #'s on the PS2. It pounded out the sales week in and week out. IV will struggle to keep up IMO.
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Kyros posted 22/05/2008, 04:38
"R* is probably only making about
$15-20 max per unit"

Doubt it they are no small developer that gets screwed by the publisher. 60$ per game 10 dollar for Sony, 12 dollar for the seller: leaves 38$. The 100 million include ads etc. so worstcase 30 * 8m = 240 million will have made them more money than every other game. And this after three weeks. Ridiculous.
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wareagle372 posted 22/05/2008, 03:51
good explaination Montana.
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MontanaHatchet posted 22/05/2008, 01:59
Well, a userbase can certainly grow over time, can't it? To say there are 12 million PS3s and 19 million Xbox 360s in the same sentence as the number of PS2s that have been sold (which is of course a much slower growing number then the current generation consoles), is ridiculous.

We can, by your numbers as of the San Andreas launch, estimate that the PS2 sells about 15 million a year. An impressive sum. Now, we almost have to do an anti-extrapolation with the PS3, which is a better console for comparison since it's selling faster than the 360. So, if we look at PS3 sales for 2007, it's at approximately 7.5 million, and it's doing quite a bit better this year. What we're looking at is a significant increase of userbase for the next 2 consoles leading up to the 2008 holiday season.

Also, remember that with smaller userbases comes smaller sales, but also larger attach rates. The Gamecube's top selling game and the Xbox's top selling game had a lot higher attach rate than San Andreas to the PS2's userbase. Of course, this is all a proven fact given that a larger userbase comes with more casual users.

So while Grand Theft Auto IV might not sell as much as the PS2 iterations, we're still looking at very large sales. And yes, the humongous development costs and licensing fees will take away from that. It's a shame, as Take 2 needs lots of money to fight away EA.

Ahh well, just don't get too snippy now.
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vgcgamer posted 21/05/2008, 10:59
Mont, I guess you can't read either. Nowhere in my post did I state or make the assumption that the number of PS2s on the market now (127M) is the same number as was in 2004. Your own inference, right?

127M is the number of PS2s sold through 2007. You can check out Wikipedia for verification. It's a number backed up by numerous other sites as well (too many to list).

BTW, at the time San Andreas was released there were between 70-80M PS2s on the market worldwide.

My numbers can be backed up and you can't provide any contradictory evidence. Perhaps, you should save your own face.
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MontanaHatchet posted 21/05/2008, 09:48
So Vgcgamer, what you're telling me is, that you're fabricated number of Playstation 2s sold so far (127 million) is equal to the amount of PS2s that had been sold back when San Andreas launched back in 2004?

I can't look up the exact number right now, but next time, try to read and think before you post. You could really save face.

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vgcgamer posted 21/05/2008, 08:14
Kyros, you must not understand much about business. You didn't read my post. R* is probably only making about $15-20 max per unit after everyone gets paid. Initial investment was ENORMOUS (100 million) and that is much, much more than San Andreas. At $20 net profit per unit, this amounts to $160 million net. Sounds great, but you have to subtract the $100M in dev costs. IV has a LONG, LONG way to go to even get close to San Andreas (sold 21.5M units so far according to R*). I doubt IV will be able to keep up with the much smaller PS3 and 360 base.

Sales of next-gen hardware have been pretty pathetic (Only 12M PS3s and 19M 360s out there. By comparison there are over 127M PS2s!). Next time read and think before you speak.
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Kyros posted 21/05/2008, 07:40
"I don't know if R* is satisfied or not."

LOL they sold over 8 in words eight million copies in 3 weeks. I have the slight suspicion that they are satisfied. Unbelievable.
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vgcgamer posted 21/05/2008, 04:59
I don't know if R* is satisfied or not. With every sales a portion goes to MS or Sony for licensing fees. A portion goes to the retailer for specified amount bulit-in profit (meaning they are getting game at a wholesale price). Then there's the cost of boxing and shipping the game to retailers. Lastly, you have the cost to develop (100 million) plus any extra unaccounted costs.
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Kyros posted 21/05/2008, 01:21
wow total over 8 million already. If I am not mistaken the only game which sold more this gen is Call of duty4 (and packins like Wii sports) After 2.5 weeks lol
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wareagle372 posted 17/05/2008, 05:30
username2324

I am pretty sure Rockstar is pretty satisfied with the amount sold right now. They did break the record for most sold games in a day and week
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Oemenia posted 16/05/2008, 12:00
Confirmed, this will beat Halo 3, and SMG as well as SSBB are on their way too, though thats because 360 sales in JAP are non-existent
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Picko posted 15/05/2008, 11:49
Had impressive second week legs compared to Halo 3.
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okr posted 14/05/2008, 05:06
It will pass GoW in 1 or 2 weeks. Extremely impressive.
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Tuanniez posted 14/05/2008, 10:52
Pretty close to having the opening week of halo 3
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Myahon posted 12/05/2008, 04:45
This game is horribly over rated. It's good and everything it says it is but seriously.
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Griffin posted 11/05/2008, 11:01
I'm surprised this game could not pass Halo3 for first week sales.
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FaRmLaNd posted 11/05/2008, 09:21
And Rockstar wouldn't have made as much money and they'd probably have gone bankrupt.
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Username2324 posted 11/05/2008, 06:35
@iptolife
The game probably would have been better as a PS3 exclusive, Rockstar would have been able to lead on PS3 and done more with the game.
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jptolife posted 09/05/2008, 05:11
Good for R* to release it for 360 too. All the ps3 fanboys cried but as a company they want to make money and definitely did! Very nice R*
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Foshoryuken posted 07/05/2008, 10:20
Damn. That was pretty quick.
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Bagaren85 posted 07/05/2008, 03:28
\o/
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Bagaren85 posted 07/05/2008, 03:27
teh Awesome!

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FaRmLaNd posted 07/05/2008, 12:31
EU is the real battle because its actually going to be close. The US isn't a battle as the 360 version will easily outsell the ps3 version.
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Oemenia posted 06/05/2008, 11:02
EU is the real battle, MS are claiming its theirs with only 360 at the end, and Sony have the bundle.

PS3 will win, its userbase is only a million less, and there arent as many titles on the PS3, hence theyll drift towards GTA which is exactly that
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zutaty posted 06/05/2008, 06:12
if in UE sale have same number thats could be a great success for 360, but wait and see
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Oemenia posted 06/05/2008, 05:18
Yeah i made mistake, i thought they were EU sales
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zutaty posted 06/05/2008, 03:13
no surprise, 360 selling a 11m for only 4m ps3 so.....
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whatever posted 06/05/2008, 01:35
@Oemenia

Sorry to burst your bubble, but these ARE NA numbers. When the others numbers come in, I'm sure they will be much better for the PS3.
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Oyvoyvoyv posted 06/05/2008, 07:17
Why is 2317K rounded to 2.32M? Seems odd to me...

Will two weeks GTA IV X360 > two weeks Halo 3?
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--OkeyDokey-- posted 06/05/2008, 05:56
Now that's a big first week of sales.
It did even better than San Andreas (but I expect the dropoff to be much more severe)
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wareagle372 posted 06/05/2008, 03:43
This game is already in the top 10 best selling 360 games, and it will be in the top three in 2 weeks.
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dante posted 01/05/2008, 02:06
this game just gets better and better the further u get into it
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squall747 posted 01/05/2008, 12:00
Sweet game the best GTA yet.
Though I wish they'd work on the music channels. Not many decent songs.
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ecurbj posted 30/04/2008, 10:03
Glad to own this game!!!!!!!!!
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qazwsx posted 30/04/2008, 02:14
Great gme but there are better ones out there
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The Mann posted 30/04/2008, 01:06
Played it for a good while, AMAZING game.
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wareagle372 posted 30/04/2008, 12:10
such a fun game!
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Sol posted 29/04/2008, 09:14
Well so far it's living up to the hype. I`m only a few hours in and it's just getting better and better.
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squall747 posted 29/04/2008, 01:28
Does anyone know how to leave a score for a game? I thought it used to be on the page with the game but I do not see it anymore? At least I thought it was...

GTA 4 tomorrow I got high hopes for this one.
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SleepWaking posted 26/04/2008, 10:25
YAY I just finished it, great game (although not the best game since OOT IMO)
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darklich13 posted 15/04/2008, 07:41
Pre-ordered today. 13 days left!!
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coolestguyever posted 13/04/2008, 07:12
I know its not out yet, but I've already pre-ordered it. So its like I own it.
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sinha posted 13/04/2008, 02:42
The hype is out of control...
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Bagaren85 posted 28/03/2008, 11:16
Come on baby, soon. The awesomness version ;P
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SteelersFan7 posted 18/02/2008, 10:02
Nobody played this yet and it's rated a 5.50 by 8 votes, come on people.
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Sales History

Total Sales
0.14m
Japan
6.80m
NA
3.11m
Europe
1.04m
Others
11.09m
Total
1 n/a 1,971,748 834,919 483,873 3,290,540
2 n/a 519,084 242,578 131,092 892,754
3 n/a 248,853 137,720 66,335 452,908
4 n/a 150,972 99,611 42,858 293,441
5 n/a 96,022 81,739 30,251 208,012
6 n/a 68,089 52,002 20,481 140,572
7 n/a 48,742 41,650 15,382 105,774
8 n/a 41,011 33,278 12,654 86,943
9 n/a 31,726 29,190 10,351 71,267
10 n/a 21,586 27,322 8,257 57,165

Opinion (166)

T.Rexington posted 13/12/2012, 08:03
10 million seller! They probably hit this a while ago with digital sales, but it's great to see GTAIV get it done. It's the 6th game to join the 10 million club and the only third person open world game in the list. I'm sure Rockstar is excited for a new GTA.
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vodkasosa9000 posted 02/12/2012, 11:05
@kai master

I know but rockstar also doesnt count digital sales. They said the game sold over 25 million units they never said digital sales were included
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Kai Master posted 28/11/2012, 05:36
@vodkasosa : VGC doesn't count digital sales.
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vodkasosa posted 18/11/2012, 01:18
THE SALES ON GTA IV ON VG CHARTZ ARE FAKE !!!!!! Rockstargames told game informers in their GTA V reveal that GTA IV sold over 25 million copies not 19 million copies !!!!!!
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T.Rexington posted 11/10/2012, 06:18
A little less than 200,00 away. I still believe a new GTAV trailer could boost the sales of GTAIV enough to the 10 million mark.
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DitchPlaya posted 17/09/2012, 10:55
Good to see the Complete Edition helping it sell, the two DLC expansions were incredible and far better than the main game.
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