PlayStation's Project Q Handheld Images and Video Have Leaked Online - News
by William D'Angelo , posted on 01 August 2023 / 4,267 Views
Sony Interactive Entertainment during the PlayStation Showcase in May announced the Project Q handheld device.
Project Q is a portable device designed to play games installed on your PS5 that are streamed over Wi-Fi. It will have an LCD screen that can run games up to 1080p and 60 frames per second.
The handheld has been reported to launch in mid to late November of this year.
Multiple image and a video of Project Q have now leaked online via @Zuby_Tech on Twitter, which can be viewed below:
PlayStation Project Q Leaks:#PlayStation #ProjectQ https://t.co/gyFrsW7xkN pic.twitter.com/0R0yQIdr0I
— @Zuby_Tech (@Zuby_Tech) July 22, 2023
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This device is just baffling to me. Home game streaming over wi-fi was one of the main selling points of Vita and yet Vita still barely sold 15m. Vita at least had it's own game library and exclusives, this is just streaming your PS5 library which you can already do with the smartphone you already have and a gamepad attachment for your phone, such as the Razer Kishi, which at $50 is surely alot cheaper than buying this Project Q at probably $100 or more. Or if you want the PS5 gamepad features such as adaptive triggers, you can buy a smartphone clip that fits your PS5 controller for like $13, which is even cheaper than something like the Razer Kishi. Why would anyone spend probably $100 or more on this?
Ppl who don't want their streaming interrupted whenever they receive calls/ messages, or don't want to strap a flimsy smartphone clip to their controllers. Smartphones screens are also very small.
Those alternatives aren't better, they're just cheaper. There'll be ppl who would rather have a dedicated streaming device then use their phone. I know I would. I'd hate to stream on my my sub 5inch phone.
Yeah but as Shika stated and I can attest to, the PS Vita could also do remote play and it was advertised. If the PS Vita did not sell well, I am not sure why Sony would feel a device like this with even more limited functionality would sell any better. The only conclusion I can think of is that this device will be priced at the same point as their pro controller. Anything above that and I cannot really see this being anything worth talking about.
Wby are you comparing a dedicated handheld to a remote play only streaming one?
Completely different audiences with completely different purposes.
The vita failed for reasons outside of remote play functionality.
Think about it this way, if Sony priced this at the same price as the PS Vita, why would you think it would sell better at that price point. My point is that the PS Vita allowed you to do remote play and also play games outside of your home. It had pretty much ever function you could want in a handheld at a price of 250 bones. Now if this streaming device with less functionality is also priced the same, its hard for me to see it selling well at all.
Already this device is fighting an uphill battle with that limited functionality so yeah comparisons are in order because the PS Vita was a great device that failed, I am find it hard to really see where this slot in at what it currently is advertised. Also as I stated in this thread, Remote play really does not work all that well so Sony will definitely have to fix that issue or this will definitely not move any units.
The Vita didn't sell for a lot of reasons and no one was buying it off the back of remote play and why would you think that Sony expects Vita like sales they most likely would be happy with a few million a year at say $50.00 a unit profit .
I wasn't suggesting project Q would move a lot of units , hence my comment about Sony not expecting Vita like sales and being happy if it sells a few million the difference is Sony will be selling a peripheral with a built in profit margin that doesn't need to sell Vita like numbers to make a good profit .
That fine the truth is my numbers are just supposition I just put them out to show that there's a difference between selling a console with its R&D marketing hardware losses and other associated costs that need to be met by software sales that in turn drives future hardware sales.compared to a peripheral like this where the money is made per unit and the costings are low In his case it's just a screen with a controller attached I'm sure Sony have done their homework and sees a market for it, not a big one for sure but even without me buying one still enough to justify its existence
A few million probably would not cover the price it takes to bring the device to market. People forget the amount of effort it take to bring a hardware device like this to market. Just the time resources and money spent developing this device will be in the millions. Then you look at how much Sony will need to markup this device to sell at retail in order to make any money from it. This device will be about as much if not more than what the Vita sold for with limited functionality. So this device only selling a few million would be a huge loss for Sony. People need to read up what it takes to bring a hardware device to retail because its not cheap and the markup needs to cover a lot.
Yeah, agreed. Sony's stuck between a rock and a hard place... discount it so that it sells more volume (but the margins aren't good), or keep the margins good but the sales volume probably won't be there. Neither scenario probably even gets all their development and marketing costs back, I'd guess.
Why are the alternatives not better?. heck you could use a cheap 7-8" tablet to do the exact same thing. And most people already have a tablet around. On your phone you can turn off Calls etc while you are gaming. Like i said before this is not some ground breaking thing and is of no use to anyone who already has a phone or a tablet and a PS5. Plus it looks ugly as F. Hell a phone using a clip on a PS5 controller would most likely look better.
Have you put any significant amount of time into remote play off a phone/ tablet?
Phone screens are incredibly small and the UI elements are not going to scale for the screen reduction.
Most ppl aren't going to cut off communication just to stream a game.
And tablets by themselves are just a bulky addition, forcing you to remote play in a position/ location that is convenient for its placement rather than your own personal preference.
Yes before i got my steam deck id often use my phone (Redmi Note 11) and xbox Series controller to play games from my PC to my phone in all cases it was good and perfectly playable. Yes my Steamdeck is better now but thats for many more reasons then just remote play. My phone would of done perfectly if all the steamdeck did was let me to the same thing as i could already do on my phone so me personally wouldnt pay €150+ just to do what i can already do with my phone.
Feels like you put little to no thought into this comment.
Turn off calls means you are just ignoring calls. Good if it is just a random telemarker - bad if it's a friend or a loved one.
No one said it was ground breaking. And you seem to miss every discussion of screen size.
Leaving the question of - if you don't care for it - why are you in an article about it? And why are you getting so upset about it?
The opposite of love isn't hate - it's indifference. If you didn't care you wouldn't post. I'm guessing the branding annoys you more than the device.
The branding?, are you kidding me?. the branding makes no difference to me and if it was an xbox controller split in half to do the same thing id say how pointless it is too when everyone has multi devices that can do the same thing.
What person only has one phone or tablet in their house?.
Seems like some people just want to force themselves to like it by using excuses like "The screen size" "dedicated" "No phone calls/texts" . If they are the best options someone can find for liking this i can see it selling millions..
Don't forget the WiiU also had the same concept, albeit more range limited.
I think this will have a place, but I don't expect it to set the sales charts on fire... But not going to lie, having the ability to play my PS5 in bed, while my console is in the lounge/living room is an attractive proposition for me... Which was a selling point for the WiiU.
But this has little of any of these. It will have a short battery life due to having to show PS5 level graphics. It will need a PS5 and constant access to an internet connection (good internet connection, or else lag will kill the experience, something you can't guarantee when outdoors) to even work, otherwise it's a brick. And if you go travelling for longer periods, you will have to leave your PS5 on for days, which I'm sure won't be good for the hardware. The market for this kind of devise is incredibly small, and I don't think the target audience is going to be satisfied with the performance.
It's not rendering anything. It's just streaming.
So the "level of graphics" will not impact battery life... It's a dumb device, not a smart one.
The fact it needs a base console is the same as a WiiU.
It also doesn't have LTE/4G/5G and so the internet connection is redundant as it will just be a device on the Wifi network. - Unless you connect to your phones hotspot, but I would imagine the video stream would reduce in quality to compensate.
The Playstation 5's cooling and power delivery is actually extremely robust and over-engineered, hence it's large size.
It won't impact the consoles reliability as it will enter an idle power-saving state when not gaming. - Just like a PC.
The bigger problem is that Remote play is laggy as hell. If Sony does not fix the latency for Remote play this will be dead on arrival. Also the price will be a big selling point. Devices like this are built to sell at a profit, it will depend on just how much Sony want to make that will be the factor.
Wouldn't the lag be subjective? I've had zero problems with remote playing anywhere in my house.
What were you using and what game. I have a PS Vita an d it was really laggy when I tried to play GOW a few times that I just stop trying. I tried my Android phone at one point but it was a laggy mess as well so I have not come back to it probably about 4 months.
Another ps5, my computer, and my phone. Although I didn't try it with an action game that's true.
You're missing the simplicity of streaming in bed. Or while watching TV while a loved one is using it.
Also it isn't decoding the signal. It isn't actually a streaming device. All reports have it as just wifi remote play.
You could probably get a PS Vita for a cheaper cost then this will sell for. Hell you can test out streaming in bed before this ever ship by just using remote play with your phone. You really do not need a dedicated device like this to see if remote play is even worth using or investing in a device like this when you can all of that now.
It'll easily be a superior remote play experience then everything you just described & will actually be marketing around the PS5. The Vita was never marketed as a way to play PS4 games, that was a function but it was marketed around its own way less desirable games. Every ad and reference to this device will be PS5 centric with PS5 games like GOW/FFXVI etc
It's for sure a niche device, but so is the $250 elite controller. Peripherals are not projected the same sales potential of new consoles. They're designed to get more engagement out of the audience, expand the appeal of the ecosystem and hit needs that otherwise might opted by competitors.
Actually yes the Via was marketed as a remote play device to stream from your PS4. The problem was remote play was no where close enough to be worth doing. Remote play on the PS5 has not improved over the PS4. Its not like you cannot test it out today and see how good it is. Its still very laggy and playing any game that isn't some indie pixel game is not going to be an experience anyone going to put up with but for a few moments.
We really do not know if this device will improve the performance of remote play but that would be the first thing Sony would need to solve in order for this device to even be considered something worth buying.
SpawnWave has predicted that this thing will cost $250! Pricing will be interesting.
The build quality looks better than I expected.
Same here. The screen is enormous too. Yes that what she said but more importantly, you are never gonna get a screen and controls like that on a phone.
I will say that solution can be heavy when it comes to playing if its a tablet. A nice size Phone works great as I have used GP and Remote play with my Samsung phone and the screen is just about right. Trying to play using my Ipad Pro is not ideal when just sitting in a chair or in bed. Even still, that use case for me is very limited so it would not be something I am willing to fork out money for just to experience once in a while.
The main issue that I see with this thing is that it's going to have to have a low price to sell well, but Sony probably can't make much money with a low price. It's not a console that spurs game sales. So it can't be priced as a loss leader. It has to be profitable on its own. And if it needs to be profitable, especially if it needs to hit anything close to the typically high margins that console accessories enjoy, the price is going to be too high for widespread adoption.
Anyway, it all comes down to the price. At $99 it will sell like hotcakes. At $199 it will be a niche accessory.
Would be interesting if you could play all the streamed plus games without the need for the PS5
As twin stated yes they have already commented on their plans atound the time of the showcase. There is no plausible reason why their streaming device wouldn't...stream. And even though it's obvious that this is what the device is about, we have to act all shocked when YouTube and gaming sites stop dicking us around and give honest commentary.
We can look at the PS5 pro controller as a barometer of the price of this device. This device will not be cheaper than the pro controller that much I am certain. The pro controller I believe is 200 bones, but you probably can get it a little cheaper. This device will be north of 200. Sony may seek to get less profit so they could price this exactly the same as the pro controller but I would expect it to be at least 30 bucks more and that is only if Sony really wants this to sell.
If it costs more than $200, and doesn't have additional features that we haven't yet heard about, it isn't gonna sell well at all.
True, I do not see this selling if it cost more than 200 bucks that is why I believe Sony will have to price it at 199 or even lower if they want to move units. If they sell this at 175 or around that price I believe it will sell but still not great. I personally do not need a streaming device in my home so this will be the first Sony handheld that I will be skipping.
Am I the only one who actually likes the design of this? I mean, Switch is great, but someone finally realized there should be some space in such a controller for your outer fingers to attach to. This was actually quite uncomfortable during the WiiU era.
I never had a problem with the design, I am just not sure how comfortable it is to hold. While it looks like it should be the same as the PS5 controller which for me is Sony best feeling controller to date, it might not translate as well in this design. Anyway, I use something like this more for its function and the screen seems big enough to use for the games I like to play. I just do not need a streaming home device.
Man this thing is ugly as hell and is defo DOA.
What a stupid and useless piece of shit
Wtf are you talking about and who are you? No on everything you said. I don't think about you at all. I also never heard of you. If I want a handheld from Sony it will be something that plays games native. You can already remote play on other devices for PS5. This thing is useless because of that. I'm not aware of any fucking bullshit called "like politics" I don't give a fuck about any forum politics esp as I was not aware they are a thing. I am who I am and say what I feel and I don't compromise for any points of any kind. I never curve my opinion for anyone or anything positive or negative about something.
Can I play this while my wife plays destiny on the ps5 simultaneously? If you can I may actually pick this up.
Don't think so. It's the same concept as Wii U/Remote play. PS5 is in a lower power state and streaming the game.
For $99 and zero latency I'll definitely gonna buy this.
I wonder if they'll update Astro's Playroom so we can get this as an artifact.
LMAO, nope, no way this is real. Sony would not release something this horrendous.
It's about screen and price. Too big ( Wii U ) tires out the hands. Too small (phone) tires out the eyes.
Plus you have to consider battery life (my phone would die if I spent 2 hours playing games on it AND used it as I do).
Also my phone doesn't do 1080/60fps.
Plus convenience. Having to attach and re-attach gets annoying. And quite awkward if I got a phone call or text while in the middle of using it.
A decent size screen for a dedicated device is a great option. Based on the price. I can absolutely see myself grinding Disgaea 7 on something like that. For the right price.
Looks like the Q could be best controlling handheld in history…..IF Sony implements similar controls to the PS5 controller that the Q is based on. That is a major selling point. I called it here first. Don’t forget.
Sony is desperately trying to fill many available markets with its game business , but it’s not doing a good job with VR software, and now there’s too many limitations with its handheld.
While at first I enjoyed the haptics and other stuff in the PS5 controller, I find myself just turning them off more than anything else. I want my triggers to remain the same. I do not mind the rumble in the pad but what really makes the PS5 controller feel good to me is that its does not have that platic cheap feel of the other controllers. It has a nice bigger feel and weight.
I hope this device fails equally hard as their live service titles. The only peripheral from PS that actually deserves love is PSVR 2, but for now that support mostly comes from third parties.
