Switch vs PS4 – VGChartz Gap Charts – September 2017 Update

Switch vs PS4 – VGChartz Gap Charts – September 2017 Update - Sales

by William D'Angelo, posted on 17 November 2017 / 6,217 Views

The VGChartz Gap charts are updated monthly and each article focuses on a different gap chart. The charts include comparisons between the 7th generation and 8th generation platforms, as well as comparisons within the 8th generation. All sales are worldwide, unless otherwise stated.

Switch Vs. PS4 Global:

Gap change in latest month: 255,579 - Switch

Total Lead: 1,328,311 – PS4

Switch Total Sales: 7,017,665

PS4 Total Sales: 8,345,976

September 2017 is the 7th month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for. During the latest month the gap grew in favor of the Switch during the same time frame by 255,579 units when compared to the PlayStation 4 during the same timeframe. The Switch is currently behind the PlayStation 4 by 1.33 million units.

The PlayStation 4 launched in November 2013, while the Nintendo Switch launched worldwide in March 2017. The Switch has sold 7.02 million units, while the PlayStation 4 sold 8.35 million units during the same timeframe.


A life-long and avid gamer, William D'Angelo was first introduced to VGChartz in 2007. After years of supporting the site, he was brought on in 2010 as a junior analyst, working his way up to lead analyst in 2012. He has expanded his involvement in the gaming community by producing content on his own YouTube channel and Twitch channel dedicated to gaming Let's Plays and tutorials. You can contact the author at wdangelo@vgchartz.com or on Twitter @TrunksWD.


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14 Comments

Ljink96 (on 17 November 2017)

To be expected, but Switch is just getting started. It's insane that it even got within that number given the month gap.


habam (on 18 November 2017)

actually switch launched with a big 3D mario and Zelda in its first half year. I wouldnt call that "just getting started". Most nintendo fans already bought it. It will be interesting how the system will do without 2 masterpiece releases per year...

Its incredible how the ps4 even still outsold the switch, especially considering the lacklusting launch (in terms of games) of the 8th gen.


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KLAMarine (on 18 November 2017)

"actually switch launched with a big 3D mario and Zelda in its first half year. I wouldnt call that "just getting started"."

>Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Smash Brothers, and new IP.

"Most nintendo fans already bought it."

>Who's counting?

"Its incredible how the ps4 even still outsold the switch, especially considering the lacklusting launch (in terms of games) of the 8th gen."

>PS4 didn't have much competition at the start.


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Ljink96 (on 18 November 2017)

@habam Umm....sorry to burst your bubble but Mario and Zelda, as amazing as they are are not the System Sellers that Nintendo is known for. 3D Mario anyway, doesn't do much for Nintendo consoles in the grand scheme of things. And Zelda is just a Wii U port when it's all said and done. What we're going to want to watch is the launch of Smash Brothers, Pokemon, and Animal Crossing as KLAMarine said.


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habam (on 19 November 2017)

I agree with pokemon for sure, that will be a huge system seller as well.

We shouldnt forget many people never bought a wii u so ports like Zelda and MK8 where still like new games for many. Mario Kart on Wii sold more then 2x the copies then the wii u did sold consoles at all. So there was definitly a high demand.

I dont see a new smash bros game anytime soon though, Maybe a port...


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Ryng_Tolu (on 17 November 2017)

Next month the gap will decrease again thanks Mario Odyssey, then Switch will surpass PS4 launch allinied after November.


DialgaMarine (on 17 November 2017)

Possible, but no doubt it’s going to fall right back behind, if it does.


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Ryng_Tolu (on 17 November 2017)

Well of course after Nov/Dec 2017 Switch will have to fight against PS4 Nov/Dec 2014, so PS4 will have the lead again... but after that the comparation will become super interesting.


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quickrick (on 18 November 2017)

lol ps4 will increase its gap come november


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Ryng_Tolu (on 18 November 2017)

Yes, and Ganondorf is TOP tier in Smash Bros.


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quickrick (on 18 November 2017)

you are right i thought they were talking about this year ps4 vs switch.


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The_Liquid_Laser (on 18 November 2017)

Switch launched in March while PS4 launched near Christmas. I expect Switch sales to jump above PS4 around Christmas time, and then PS4 sales to retake the lead a couple of months after that when their 2nd year Christmas sales. The truth is that these consoles are neck and neck, but it may not look that way because the holiday seasons are not aligned.


LimaBean01 (on 18 November 2017)

why does this have dislikes lmao


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quickrick (on 18 November 2017)

consoles holiday launches are not comparable, to regular holidays. 3ds, shipped 3.6 million with only 3 days in the market in the us, and 5 days in europe. thats near ps4 shipments, the reality is console holidays launched are rushed and get a very small boost because of stock issues.


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The_Liquid_Laser (on 18 November 2017)

The slope of their lines is basically the same which means they are growing at the same rate. The only difference is the PS4 from month 1 to month 2 when it jumps above the Switch. This would be holiday season.


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NATO (on 18 November 2017)

I think it important to note that the first year of PS4 was fairly sparse in terms of major releases, sales and game releases matured strongly in the second year and beyond, so likely any ground the switch takes up this holiday season will be lost again in comparison to the ps4's second year


Kyuu (on 18 November 2017)

People tend to ignore any argument that doesn't push their narrative. It's commonly agreed on among gaming nerds that this year is history's best in terms of launch year exclusives (counting platform exclusives like Zelda) and one of the best years overall for an individual platform. Yet when the subject changes to hardware sales, this fact is ignored all of a sudden and the focus is shifted towards supply issues and consoles rarely peaking in their first years.

A LOT of gamers were acting obnoxious, blaming "Port Station 4's" first year sales on empty hype, but this is now completely forgotten... because it simply doesn't support the narrative at hand.

Unless Switch shatters my expectations, I think whether or not it's outselling PS4's second year will rely on Animal Crossing or Pokemon. 2019 vs PS4's third year should be an easy win for Switch, but from 2020, PS4 may reclaim the lead when aligned.


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NATO (on 18 November 2017)

That would depend entirely on the software support that switch has over the coming years - since we have the benefit of hindsight we can see the first 3 years of the PS4 in terms of software releases and hardware sales, all we have for the switch is the first 8 months of sales, it's far too early to judge long term performance from this, people did the same for the early days of the WiiU, and it tracked above the Xbox One for it's first year on the market, then fell off dramatically - it will likely be a year from now before we can accurately gauge the long term performance - the same was true for the ps4 and xbox one, while tracking behind somewhat, many people were absolutely certain that the xbox one would not only catch up, but pass the PS4.


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Ljink96 (on 18 November 2017)

But these are PS4's peak years, it should have no problem outdoing a Wii U port and a 3D Mario game. 3D Mario games don't sell Nintendo consoles that well, at all. Splatoon 2 is more of an update to the first, MK8 is a port, Pokken is a Port...PS4 has had more new releases and is much cheaper than the Switch. The fact that it's only that much ahead of Switch says a lot.


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NATO (on 18 November 2017)

Yes PS4 is in it's peak years but the articles comparing launch aligned so why are you acting like it's PS4 peak against switch launch?, The first year for PS4 was it's slowest due to lack of games and a really late launch in Japan, and it took several months for sales in Japan to pick up as a result.


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LivingMetal (on 17 November 2017)

Never take Sony for granted.


Azuren (on 17 November 2017)

I spy with my little eye four salty posters.


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LivingMetal (on 17 November 2017)

Don't know what you're talking about. I said the same thing in the other news article about switch sales vs XBox One just because I can.


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Azuren (on 17 November 2017)

I was referencing the downvotes on your post, lol.


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LivingMetal (on 17 November 2017)

Ahhhhhhh... Good observation.


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Ggordon (on 17 November 2017)

Actually dont take nintendo for granted


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LivingMetal (on 17 November 2017)

That's what I said in the other news article, first.


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Kyuu (on 17 November 2017)

I'm actually interested in how X1+PS4+Switch sales compare to X360+PS3+Wii. Granted it isn't a perfect comparison for several reasons, but current "home consoles" are doing quite well considering there are no Wii casuals artificially increasing the player-base. Then again, Switch being a 9th gen console and a hybrid is probably too much to ignore.


OTBWY (on 17 November 2017)

Two points I want to make: 1, it could well be that Wii casuals just bought Xboxes and PS4's. 2, while you're right about the hybrid part, I don't think there's anyone on this planet that goes out to buy a Switch because it's supposedly 9th gen, whatever that may be these days.


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Kyuu (on 17 November 2017)

Those wouldn't be casual enough. Not many casuals (as in 'non-gamers') would buy multiple consoles from a single generation.

And I mentioned the Switch being a 9th gen system because it launched over 3 years after PS4. It's like we're ignoring Wii U completely to try and prove a point.


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OTBWY (on 17 November 2017)

What determines that demographic not to be "casual enough"? If a PS4 (could have even applied it to PS3/360) owner that buys only the yearly FIFA release is hardcore enough to you, then we disagree and there's no point in discussing this point further.

Lastly, do you truly believe that a consumer, from a consumer's standpoint, buys a Switch because it's a "9th gen" console? If I may elaborate, do you consider some arbitrary generational categorization a selling point?


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Kyuu (on 17 November 2017)

I don't understand why we're dragging this out..

Aligning the sales of a console that came out in 2013 with one that came out in 2017 is probably a flawed method to use in the already difficult process of determining whether the core market shrunk or expanded. I was merely pointing out the Switch is a 9th generation console coz it launched too late for us to just combine with the 8th generation group and call it a comparison.

And while it's true that there are endless shades between a core and casual gamer (I for one consider myself a casual these days.. since I barely play video games anymore), Wii's causals were their own kind! That thing was used more by middle aged family people than passionate gamers. Yes, that is also true to an extent with consoles commonly associated with core gamers, like Xbox 360 and PS3 from the same generation, but not anywhere near Wii levels. A countless Wii gamers knew absolutely nothing about gaming. Hence the Wii was hyped to have "transcended its medium" that it was appealing to a whole new demographic.

Or are you trying to say current consoles are equally as inflated by non-gamers and casuals as the 7th generation?


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OTBWY (on 17 November 2017)

Just having a chat.

I don’t think you understood what I was asking. Let me rephrase as simple as possible, is a “gen” labeling a selling point to a consumer? And expanding on the last point you made, why do you believe a gen matters from a competitive standpoint, since the consoles that are out, are in fact competing despite being launched years apart?

I’m not trying to say anything, all i’m trying to get out of you is your reasoning, because from where I stand, you have no considerable data presented to support your assumptions. For example, when you talk about “countless Wii gamers”, is there any evidence to support the fact that they didn’t own another console? Sure, the Wii does have casual console stigma, but is there evidence besides that, that other consoles don’t have similar audiences. Maybe attach rates would be a start?

And to answer your last question: There is no way that we can agree on this, no matter what my answer is. I would say yes to a certain degree, since my definition of a casual is different from yours.


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Kyuu (on 18 November 2017)

"Generation" was originally tied with "eras" but now it's shifting definition as far as perception goes because Nintendo launched Wii U's successor before PS4 reached half its life, rendering the term confusing and arguably obsolete. And you misunderstand me, I never thought a generation matters in that sense.. you can compare consoles to each other all you want. But.. if PS4 and X1 launched simultaneously with -or close to- Switch in 2017, their combined sales wouldn't be as impressive as aligning them in their current forms. Putting them against WiiPS360 would give misleading results because it's somewhat skewed towards the former. (Of course the bigger issue is Switch being a hybrid)

A superior method to gauging consumer interests in home console gaming, would be comparing a succeeding fixed period of time against a preceding period. 2000-2009 vs 2010-2019 for instance.

And true, the casuals little discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so it's best we leave it here.


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Johnw1104 (on 18 November 2017)

I'm still amazed the Switch is in the ball park. The PS4 is one of the most successful consoles ever and released with perhaps less competition than a console has experienced in quite some time, with their two competitors having absolute faceplants out of the gate. I don't think there's much of a chance at all of the Switch ever catching the PS4, but I'm darn impressed that it's even a discussion.


Lawlight (on 18 November 2017)

So, we're comparing the PS4's staggered launch to the Switch simultaneous launch?


Valcristo (on 17 November 2017)

Great start for Switch, really good numbers. And Great performance for the PS4, its a 2013 console that sells like its a launch year, it will hit more tha 100 millions for sure.


JWeinCom (on 17 November 2017)

Consoles tend to peak around year 3-4/


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DialgaMarine (on 18 November 2017)

PS4’s launch year is still it’s weakest year by far. That’s how it works with most consoles. 2017 is looking to be an even more successful year than for PS4 than 2016. 2018 might finally start the decline, but it’s still looking to be an extremely strong year, thanks to some amazing software coming.


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Valcristo (on 18 November 2017)

Dialga, yes with the quality of software on PS4 next year surely will sell better than 2017. The maybe the decline afte hit 100 million units sold and the possible announce of PS5.


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The_BlackHeart__ (on 17 November 2017)

Watch me get a ton of dislikes, but I think I know why buyers are still preferring the PS4 even after 4 years in the market. It's because Sony didn't abandon their install base like Microsoft and Nintendo did last gen. This is a list from the top of my head of the PS3 titles that released the same year the PS4 launched. The Last of Us Gran Turismo 6 God of War: Ascension Ni no Kuni Puppeteer Final Fantasy XIV Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Ratchet & Clank: Into the Nexus Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time Disgaea D2 Rain Beyond: Two Souls You won't see this type of support on the 360 the year of the XB1 released or on the WiiU when the Switch launched. A new generation is just around the corner and people trust Sony to support their current product further than what Microsoft and Nintendo will. At least I do.


KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

Did you like your own comment? One minute and there's already one like.


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KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

"A new generation is just around the corner and people trust Sony to support their current product further than what Microsoft and Nintendo will."

You conducted surveys to reach this conclusion?


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KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

Now watch as I get dislikes. No replies though, sadly.


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KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

I didn't ask for these likes.


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DialgaMarine (on 17 November 2017)

I agree very much. Even with the Wii, Nintendo’s most popular console, first party support seriously dwindled after the first 4 years. Switch will likely be a different story though if the heavy third party support that Nintendo gets with their portables carries over to Switch.


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JWeinCom (on 17 November 2017)

Probably not. The PS1 and PS2 both had incredibly long lived support, but that didn't help PS3. The Switch, 360, and Wii had great support despite their predecessors having a short life. And the Vita shows that Sony is more than willing to cut off a poorly performing system.

People prefer the PS4 to the XBox One and Switch because MS bungled their launch badly (like Sony did with the PS3) and had mediocre exclusives, while the Wii U was all around a poor product. As for the whether or not the market prefers PS4 to Switch, that remains to be seen.


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ArchangelMadzz (on 18 November 2017)

It didn't help the PS3 because it was so expensive.

KLAMarine, of course he hasn't conducted surveys he literally said 'I think' it's just a theory. But a logical one at that. I know my PS4 will have content coming out for it until the day PS5 is released.


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JWeinCom (on 18 November 2017)

@Archangel We use the data we have. The situations are not all going to be the same, but when you put them together, it paints a picture that goes against this theory.

We can throw in a few more data points. The GBA had a really short lifespan, yet the DS was incredibly successful. The DS had a really long lifespan, but the 3DS was not as successful. The PSP had a pretty long life, which didn't help Vita. There simply doesn't seem to be a strong link between a previous console's lifespan and the next console's success.


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ArchangelMadzz (on 18 November 2017)

All of your examples are handhelds. Different market, different investment.


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JWeinCom (on 18 November 2017)

I added those because I already talked about the consoles in the first post. Either way you look at it, it doesn't hold up.


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ArchangelMadzz (on 19 November 2017)

You claim it doesn't but don't give a reasoned argument against it


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JWeinCom (on 19 November 2017)

Yes, I did. Twice now. If we look at all the data we see tons of examples of a console with a short life being succeeded by a successful product (Xbox-360, Gamecube-Wii, Wii U-Switch, GBA-DS, arguably Saturn-Dreamcast) and examples of consoles with long lives being followed up by less successful consoles (PS2-PS3, Genesis-Saturn, PSP-Vita, DS-3DS, XBox 360-XBone).

We actually see very few examples of a console with an exceptionally long life being followed up by successful consoles. You can arguably say PS2 (PS1 had a lot of third party support after its release, but no major first party releases), GBA (depending on if you count the Gameboy Color as a Gameboy remodel or a separate platform), and the PS4.

You can point out other factors that affected sales, and that's precisely the point. Whatever effect that supporting the console for a long time might have seems insignificant in comparison to other factors.


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ArchangelMadzz (on 20 November 2017)

.. He never said anything about being a successful console. He's talking about longevity of sales. How LONG it sells for, not how well it sells.

He's saying the PS4 will sell better for longer because they continuously and continuously pump out games for the console even in it's last year.


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JWeinCom (on 20 November 2017)

That is absolutely not what he said.

"I know why buyers are still preferring the PS4 even after 4 years in the market. It's because Sony didn't abandon their install base like Microsoft and Nintendo did last gen. "

He's clearly not talking about future sales. He's talking about why the PS4 is successful right now. And he's attributing it to the PS3's longevity. The data we have from past consoles strongly goes against his idea.


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ArchangelMadzz (on 21 November 2017)

Exactly, its selling 4 years in the market so well. He's talking about it's longevity. That's literally the whole point of the comment. And he's saying it will continue to sell well and not drop off.

The only data you've shown going against is handhelds.


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JWeinCom (on 21 November 2017)

I gave examples with consoles. Then you said I didn't, and I did again. If you're not reading what I'm writing I don't really know how to proceed.


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ArchangelMadzz (on 22 November 2017)

Your examples were PS2 to PS3 where the biggest factor was price.

360 to XB1 which only further proves the point because support for 360 from MS was awful in the last couple of years.

Gamecube was supported well in it's short life and then Wii blew up.

And you can't use switch as an example of a long lived successful console when it's 8 months old..


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Mystro-Sama (on 17 November 2017)

Just shows how much of a beast the PS4 actually is.


Ggordon (on 17 November 2017)

you do realise the switch is short supply?


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nobitakun (5 days ago)

That's an absolute lie. I can see everywhere, EVERYWHERE dozens of pallets full of bullswitch. I live in Spain and there's no shortage whatsoever. I've been researching that lie for a long time with friends around europe and they didn't notice any shortage within Europe in most of the biggest countries, so your statement is futile. PS4 simply outsells bullswitch because in this gen it has little competition, much less than with PS3 / 360.

Sorry nintendo, you're not going to catch PS4, EVER.

Anyways, bullswitch is competing in another league, one has to be retard to say that direct competition of PS4 is bullswitch, it's just a different device for a different purpose and market, as simple as that.


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Ggordon (on 17 November 2017)

Not bad


INCITATUSBR (on 17 November 2017)

why/how is PS4 still selling so many consoles? Nintendo does not need to fight against Sony or Microsoft, it needs to fight against itself... in order to keep the quality of the games as in 2017 - Metroid 4 will not be enough for that. 2018 seems to be a great year for Sony in this case - it has God of War and Last of Us. Good enough.


DialgaMarine (on 17 November 2017)

I have my doubts that we’ll see TLoU2 next year, but there already is Spider-Man, Shadow if the Colossus, Detroit, And Days Gone already on the list of first half 2018 exclusives, next to God of War. Unless Nintendo’s titles next year are smash hits like they were this year, I doubt they’ll be putting up much of a fight against PS4.


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KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

"in order to keep the quality of the games as in 2017 - Metroid 4 will not be enough for that."

You know this how?

"2018 seems to be a great year for Sony in this case - it has God of War and Last of Us. Good enough."

Seems.


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DialgaMarine (on 17 November 2017)

I use the term very loosely. I have serious doubts that the PS4 exclusives coming out will be anything short of great, and those are only the first half of 2018. We still don’t know what Sony’s holiday title(s) will be.


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AngryLittleAlchemist (on 18 November 2017)

No doubt that those PS4 exclusives will sell the system to a lot of people, but honestly I have doubts about their quality. Not only that, but Nintendo franchises are a lot bigger overall. One or two smash hit franchises for the Switch are just as big as 4 big franchises on PS4. And Shadow of the Colossus is not going to move a lot of hardware at all, even though I personally am very much looking forward to it.


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michel3105 (on 18 November 2017)

Also Dissidia NT, in my opinion shouldn't be underrated.


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DialgaMarine (on 19 November 2017)

Only a few Nintendo franchises go above Sony’s major titles, and based on the anticipation for games like God of War, Spider-Man, and TLoU2, I wouldn’t be selling the PS4 exclusives so short. Let’s not forget that Spider-Man received the more attention than any other game at E3 this year, even Mario Odyssey. That’s a pretty big deal. Plus, it’s seems like Nintendo is relying on titles like Kirby and Yoshi for early next year, ie secondary Nintendo franchises that don’t even compare to what Sony is bringing for the first half.


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DialgaMarine (on 19 November 2017)

If Nintendo had something more significant for their first half of 2018, they would’ve announced it already to start building hype, but it’s sounding like we won’t see anything huge from them until after E3.


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AngryLittleAlchemist (on 19 November 2017)

Hey man, even though I'm not the biggest fan of Sony's western exclusives, I like both Playstation and Nintendo. I've been very pleased with the performance of PS4's exclusives, it seems like Sony's output is gaining more sales than in any other generation before. Uncharted 4 is doing great numbers, which for me is good seeing as it's the best UC game, and I've commented many times on how well Horizon Zero Dawn is doing and how great that is for the industry. When all is said and done, Playstation will probably have huge growth in their software sales by the end of the generation. Which is great.

That being said, if you really think that Nintendo "only has a few" franchises that beat Sony's major titles, you're either being too loose with the term few or haven't looked up the sales figures. Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Smash Brothers, Mario Kart, 3D Marios, 2D Marios(yes I know you said "franchise" but c'mon). Hell even last generation when Sony was convincing consumers to buy a PS3 almost entirely off their exclusives, their main series Uncharted was only as popular as Gears of War, or Zelda which was a 2nd tier Nintendo franchise at the time in terms of sales. Gran Turismo used to be their Pokemon, and I honestly thought it would do 8-9 million this gen, but it's looking more like GT Sport will finish at 5-6 mil. Hell, it wasn't even that long ago that Donkey Kong was as popular as Uncharted.

That's not a "few", that's most of their major titles. Keep in mind that while Sony's first party are increasing in sales, so are Nintendo's. Breath of the Wild will be the first Zelda game to get to 9-10 million sales, maybe even more, and that's without bundling. Not only that, but Sony's IP popularity increase has mostly come from massive bundling(a lot of the time with no additional charge) and huge price cuts.

And that's not a knock at Playstation. A big part of their brand is their 3rd party support, so kudos to them for having the bigger library and more software sales overall. Just saying, let's not forget who we're dealing with here. Nintendo is Nintendo. , is Nintendo. Who knows, maybe Nintendo won't deliver in 2018. I don't really care about that topic because we won't know until official announcements are made.

Oh and by the way Youtube views are a pretty silly metric for games, especially when companies are starting to use pre-release footage or short clips as advertisement on Youtube.


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The_BlackHeart__ (on 17 November 2017)

The return of Zelda and the Year of the Scorpio. And yet, the PS4 is king.


KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

Most recent NPDs seemed to indicate otherwise...


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Replicant (on 17 November 2017)

@KLAMarine: I think Blackheart is referring to worldwide numbers given that the article he commented on deals with worldwide numbers.

Unless we're talking about globally in the US?


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KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

That could be the case... Nintendo has two products out in the market right now though: Switch AND 3DS.


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Replicant (on 17 November 2017)

So? You're still bringing up US numbers on an article dealing with worldwide numbers.


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KLAMarine (on 17 November 2017)

Not anymore since the parameters have been clarified.


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AngryLittleAlchemist (on 18 November 2017)

Aren't these launch aligned sales? If so, then what would Scorpio have to do with anything?


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ArchangelMadzz (on 18 November 2017)

Globally in the US PS4 isn't king.

I didn't think I'd be able to make that reference again.


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