Xbox Live Arcade Sales Top 100 - 5/24/08 (PAA ~16.5k!!!) - News
by VGChartz Staff , posted on 24 May 2008 / 13,825 Views
'Penny Arcade Advetures' records the highest-grossing debut in the history of Xbox Live Arcade games with a whopping $330,000 in just over 3 days.
5/24/08 by Benjamin Schlichter
Yes, it's been broken, folks. Despite many attempts this year, since we started the charts, I can say with near-certainty that the highest grossing debut has been broken by a decent margin.
Penny Arcade Adventures broke a year-long stranglehold on the highest-grossing debut, beating 'Worms HD' out by $50,000 in the 3 day opening.
There's very little I can say to explain how big this is for XBLA in multiple ways. PAA is the first XBLA game to break another size barrier: Castlevainia (which grossed $240,000 in 3 days) was the game that broke the 50mb barrier placed by Microsoft.
What does this mean for the future of XBLA? Penny Arcade proved that a high priced game can sell well, and doesn't require the gamebe $5, or $10 to get a high number of sales in the first week. It also shows that Episodic Content has a place on XBLA, as PAA is the first of a series. And finally, it also satisifed the XBLA Market's desire for another RPG. PAA is a hybrid turn based, and action RPG (from my understanding). So these factors, as well as it's name brand contributed to the strong sales.
So what does this mean for XBLA? Bigger, more "Full Game" type fare, or just higher prices for the same kind of content? PAA brought a lot to the table for a game 15MB over the 150MB limit. What will happen if a developer takes advantage of the new 350mb limit, in a real and meaningful way? What will be the next game to debut at $15 or $20?
In other news:
- Charts are back to 'normal' - sales are what the should be after the week-long loss of data we had 2 weeks ago.
- N+ will, unless something happens, pass Rez HD as the highest-selling new game of 2008.
- This week was overall, very very good for the market's units sold and total revenue, eclipsing the 250k mark by a decent margin.
Edit: Woohoo, Gabe mentions my article over at Penny Arcade
Just an FYI for Gabe, and all those reading (just to clarify from a post I made in the comments section): Penny Arcade is not the 3rd highest debut in XBLA history in terms of units pushed. It's 3rd highest in 2008 only. I'll try to publish a list of "top 10" in terms of Gross Revenue and Units Sold. But sufficive to say, PAA is in the top-10 in Units Sold, but not quite #3 in "all time"
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| Rank | Name | Units Sold | % Change | Price | Revenue | Units LTD | Revenue LTD | Release Date |
| 1 | Aegis Wing () | 17,712 | 632.98% | $0.00 | $0 | 1,187,844 | $0 | 05/16/07 |
| 2 | Penny Arcade Adventures | 16,502 | N/A | $20.00 | $330,048 | 16,502 | $330,048 | 05/21/08 |
| 3 | Undertow | 14,265 | 45.78% | $10.00 | $142,650 | 797,074 | $7,729,968 | 11/21/07 |
| 4 | Uno ^ ^^^ | 13,238 | 270.46% | $5.00 | $66,190 | 1,114,472 | $5,572,359 | 05/09/06 |
| 5 | Assault Heroes 2 | 8,530 | -7.90% | $10.00 | $85,296 | 8,530 | $85,296 | 05/14/08 |
| 6 | Texas Hold'em * *** | 7,500 | 30.29% | $10.00 | $75,000 | 837,681 | $8,376,814 | 08/23/06 |
| 7 | Yaris () | 6,792 | 282.61% | $0.00 | $0 | 433,545 | $0 | 10/10/07 |
| 8 | Bomberman Live | 6,681 | 96.49% | $10.00 | $66,810 | 319,183 | $3,191,831 | 07/18/07 |
| 9 | Worms HD | 6,582 | 12.28% | $10.00 | $65,820 | 476,339 | $4,763,389 | 03/07/07 |
| 10 | Carcassonne * | 6,510 | 61.01% | $10.00 | $65,100 | 485,072 | $4,850,723 | 06/27/07 |
| 11 | Geometry Wars Evolved *** | 6,362 | -27.19% | $5.00 | $31,811 | 645,565 | $3,227,823 | 11/22/05 |
| 12 | TMNT | 5,865 | 33.99% | $5.00 | $29,325 | 477,617 | $2,388,086 | 03/14/07 |
| 13 | PacMan CE ^ | 5,859 | -24.72% | $10.00 | $58,590 | 233,995 | $2,339,948 | 06/06/07 |
| 14 | Bankshot Billiards 2 ** ^^ | 5,488 | 0.98% | $10.00 | $54,880 | 453,163 | $6,451,562 | 11/22/05 |
| 15 | Sonic the Hedgehog 2 | 5,201 | 42.74% | $5.00 | $26,004 | 221,457 | $1,107,283 | 09/12/07 |
| 16 | Boom Boom Rocket ^ | 4,878 | -15.83% | $10.00 | $48,780 | 255,359 | $2,553,592 | 04/11/07 |
| 17 | Doom | 4,813 | -21.93% | $5.00 | $24,066 | 366,564 | $3,450,227 | 09/27/06 |
| 18 | N+ | 4,740 | -33.96% | $10.00 | $47,400 | 126,213 | $1,262,126 | 02/20/08 |
| 19 | Street Fighter 2 HF | 4,487 | -14.28% | $10.00 | $44,870 | 418,504 | $4,185,040 | 08/02/06 |
| 20 | Brain Challenge | 4,442 | -44.28% | $10.00 | $44,424 | 93,887 | $938,872 | 03/12/08 |
| 21 | Sonic the Hedgehog | 4,148 | 191.99% | $5.00 | $20,741 | 276,245 | $1,381,223 | 07/11/07 |
| 22 | Ultimate MK3 | 3,930 | 117.78% | $10.00 | $39,295 | 333,428 | $3,334,281 | 10/21/06 |
| 23 | Marble Blast Ultra ^^ | 3,864 | -15.87% | $5.00 | $19,319 | 294,558 | $2,583,508 | 01/25/06 |
| 24 | PinballFX | 3,721 | 21.63% | $10.00 | $37,212 | 281,738 | $2,817,378 | 04/25/07 |
| 25 | Luxor 2 ^ | 3,684 | -34.81% | $10.00 | $36,840 | 154,151 | $1,541,514 | 04/04/07 |
| 26 | Castlevainia: SOTN | 3,683 | -30.20% | $10.00 | $36,828 | 372,199 | $3,721,987 | 03/21/07 |
| 27 | Feeding Frenzy ^ | 3,671 | -30.27% | $10.00 | $36,708 | 235,080 | $2,350,795 | 03/15/06 |
| 28 | Assault Heroes | 3,619 | -39.45% | $5.00 | $18,096 | 233,883 | $2,196,230 | 12/13/06 |
| 29 | Ikaruga | 3,475 | -56.64% | $10.00 | $34,752 | 82,413 | $824,131 | 04/09/08 |
| 30 | 3d Ultra Minigolf | 3,269 | 306.72% | $10.00 | $32,688 | 263,003 | $2,630,025 | 03/19/07 |
| 31 | Totemball () | 2,865 | 278.47% | $0.00 | $0 | 174,679 | $818,844 | 08/08/07 |
| 32 | Zuma ** ^^ | 2,793 | -45.81% | $5.00 | $13,963 | 250,831 | $2,304,243 | 11/22/05 |
| 33 | Small Arms ** ^^ | 2,778 | 56.52% | $5.00 | $13,892 | 286,981 | $2,583,042 | 11/22/06 |
| 34 | Metal Slug 3 | 2,599 | 11.94% | $10.00 | $25,992 | 100,780 | $1,007,797 | 01/02/08 |
| 35 | Contra # | 2,554 | -6.51% | $5.00 | $12,771 | 341,296 | $1,706,478 | 11/08/06 |
| 36 | Streets of Rage 2 | 2,478 | 45.74% | $5.00 | $12,390 | 158,507 | $792,536 | 08/29/07 |
| 37 | Galaga | 2,416 | -10.68% | $5.00 | $12,079 | 267,808 | $1,339,041 | 07/26/06 |
| 38 | Puzzle Quest: CotW | 2,335 | -40.50% | $15.00 | $35,018 | 154,374 | $2,315,616 | 10/10/07 |
| 39 | PacMan | 2,308 | 53.67% | $5.00 | $11,542 | 294,887 | $1,474,433 | 08/09/06 |
| 40 | Tetris Splash | 2,301 | 1.22% | $10.00 | $23,010 | 111,830 | $1,118,303 | 10/03/07 |
| 41 | Rez HD | 2,213 | -49.28% | $10.00 | $22,128 | 127,514 | $1,275,139 | 01/30/08 |
| 42 | Wits & Wagers | 2,021 | -51.83% | $10.00 | $20,208 | 6,216 | $62,160 | 05/07/08 |
| 43 | Golden Axe | 2,001 | 58.21% | $5.00 | $10,005 | 160,034 | $800,169 | 07/11/07 |
| 44 | Catan | 1,926 | -46.04% | $10.00 | $19,260 | 169,188 | $1,691,876 | 05/02/07 |
| 45 | Heavy Weapon | 1,875 | 72.99% | $5.00 | $9,375 | 210,703 | $2,063,735 | 01/17/07 |
| 46 | Double Dragon | 1,860 | 21.25% | $5.00 | $9,300 | 156,229 | $781,145 | 05/09/07 |
| 47 | Frogger ** | 1,767 | 11.25% | $5.00 | $8,835 | 235,450 | $1,177,251 | 07/12/06 |
| 48 | Alien Homnid HD | 1,749 | 53.21% | $10.00 | $17,490 | 187,745 | $1,877,446 | 02/28/07 |
| 49 | Chessmaster LIVE | 1,735 | -43.13% | $10.00 | $17,352 | 48,685 | $486,847 | 01/30/08 |
| 50 | Puzzle Fighter 2 HD | 1,635 | -19.60% | $10.00 | $16,350 | 103,260 | $1,032,596 | 08/29/07 |
| 51 | Prince of Persia | 1,632 | -17.88% | $10.00 | $16,320 | 167,500 | $1,675,003 | 06/13/07 |
| 52 | Paperboy | 1,608 | 117.44% | $5.00 | $8,040 | 149,765 | $748,823 | 02/14/07 |
| 53 | Spyglass Board Games | 1,602 | 720.59% | $5.00 | $8,010 | 120,924 | $604,621 | 08/01/07 |
| 54 | Ms. PacMan | 1,593 | 46.22% | $5.00 | $7,965 | 136,644 | $683,222 | 01/10/07 |
| 55 | Joust | 1,505 | -28.08% | $5.00 | $7,523 | 156,928 | $784,639 | 11/22/05 |
| 56 | Lumines! Live ^^ | 1,491 | -62.92% | $10.00 | $14,910 | 184,619 | $2,640,996 | 10/18/06 |
| 57 | Bejewled 2 *** | 1,380 | -36.21% | $10.00 | $13,796 | 138,483 | $1,384,832 | 11/22/05 |
| 58 | Robotron 2084 ^^^ | 1,330 | -34.02% | $5.00 | $6,652 | 179,333 | $896,665 | 01/06/06 |
| 59 | Arkadian Warriors | 1,310 | 36.56% | $10.00 | $13,104 | 70,701 | $707,012 | 12/12/07 |
| 60 | Wik: Fable of Souls *** | 1,203 | -36.83% | $10.00 | $12,030 | 172,376 | $1,714,088 | 12/15/05 |
| 61 | Poker Smash | 1,202 | -40.21% | $10.00 | $12,024 | 59,654 | $596,542 | 02/06/08 |
| 62 | Cloning Clyde | 1,186 | -53.84% | $10.00 | $11,856 | 227,977 | $2,279,766 | 07/19/06 |
| 63 | Gauntlet ** | 1,056 | -32.97% | $5.00 | $5,279 | 194,212 | $971,061 | 11/22/05 |
| 64 | Switchball | 1,054 | 22.17% | $10.00 | $10,540 | 52,747 | $527,468 | 11/07/07 |
| 65 | Mad Tracks | 1,017 | 476.29% | $10.00 | $10,170 | 98,633 | $986,335 | 05/30/07 |
| 66 | Track & Field | 967 | -48.26% | $5.00 | $4,836 | 35,654 | $315,454 | 02/27/08 |
| 67 | Hexic 2 * | 942 | -12.10% | $10.00 | $9,420 | 88,966 | $889,657 | 08/15/07 |
| 68 | Battlestar Galactica | 940 | -20.24% | $10.00 | $9,400 | 49,659 | $496,585 | 10/24/07 |
| 69 | DigDug ** | 922 | 4.55% | $5.00 | $4,611 | 127,250 | $636,248 | 11/11/06 |
| 70 | Soltrio Solitare | 897 | 2.18% | $10.00 | $8,970 | 83,006 | $830,059 | 05/16/07 |
| 71 | Sensible World of Soccer | 857 | 12.12% | $10.00 | $8,568 | 51,003 | $510,034 | 12/19/07 |
| 72 | Jewel Quest | 853 | -45.87% | $10.00 | $8,525 | 96,321 | $963,205 | 03/08/06 |
| 73 | Smash TV | 852 | -53.97% | $5.00 | $4,259 | 205,126 | $1,025,631 | 11/22/05 |
| 74 | Boogie Bunnies | 842 | -26.32% | $10.00 | $8,424 | 40,717 | $407,169 | 01/16/08 |
| 75 | Outpost Kaloki X *** | 811 | -58.73% | $10.00 | $8,109 | 132,683 | $1,326,831 | 11/22/05 |
| 76 | Hardwood Spades | 806 | 40.30% | $5.00 | $4,029 | 67,114 | $335,570 | 12/08/05 |
| 77 | Lost Cities | 799 | -73.17% | $10.00 | $7,992 | 11,967 | $119,671 | 04/23/08 |
| 78 | Marathon: Durandal | 798 | 508.35% | $10.00 | $7,980 | 71,342 | $713,422 | 08/01/07 |
| 79 | Astropop | 786 | -52.66% | $10.00 | $7,860 | 98,713 | $987,132 | 03/22/06 |
| 80 | E4 | 784 | -42.56% | $10.00 | $7,840 | 64,302 | $643,018 | 10/17/07 |
| 81 | Hardwood Backgammon *** | 722 | -32.12% | $5.00 | $3,608 | 73,659 | $368,296 | 12/08/05 |
| 82 | Omega 5 | 655 | -39.26% | $10.00 | $6,552 | 43,729 | $437,291 | 01/09/08 |
| 83 | Word Puzzle | 630 | -25.67% | $10.00 | $6,300 | 38,039 | $380,385 | 11/07/07 |
| 84 | Tron | 615 | -50.77% | $5.00 | $3,075 | 212,470 | $50,391 | 10/16/06 |
| 85 | Mr Driller Online | 610 | -58.58% | $10.00 | $6,096 | 20,343 | $203,429 | 04/02/08 |
| 86 | Fatal Fury Special | 609 | -2.00% | $5.00 | $3,045 | 35,265 | $176,327 | 09/05/07 |
| 87 | Rocky & Bullwinkle | 595 | -58.91% | $10.00 | $5,952 | 9,779 | $97,790 | 04/16/08 |
| 88 | Root Beer Trapper | 573 | -0.39% | $5.00 | $2,865 | 82,604 | $413,021 | 02/07/07 |
| 89 | Rocketmen: AoE | 569 | 1.31% | $10.00 | $5,688 | 10,051 | $100,510 | 03/05/08 |
| 90 | Commanders: AotG | 506 | -41.19% | $10.00 | $5,064 | 20,452 | $204,523 | 02/13/08 |
| 91 | Asteroids & Asteroids Deluxe | 480 | -41.15% | $5.00 | $2,400 | 27,321 | $136,603 | 11/28/07 |
| 92 | Super Contra | 465 | 26.56% | $5.00 | $2,325 | 32,686 | $163,432 | 07/25/07 |
| 93 | Speedball 2 | 459 | -14.93% | $10.00 | $4,590 | 31,333 | $313,334 | 10/17/07 |
| 94 | Time Pilot | 452 | -61.91% | $5.00 | $2,262 | 92,445 | $462,225 | 08/30/06 |
| 95 | Battlezone | 444 | -68.35% | $5.00 | $2,220 | 12,551 | $62,754 | 04/16/08 |
| 96 | Spongebob Underpants Slam! | 432 | -3.87% | $10.00 | $4,320 | 15,113 | $151,134 | 12/26/07 |
| 97 | Triggerheart Excelica | 425 | -16.23% | $10.00 | $4,248 | 22,369 | $124,495 | 01/09/08 |
| 98 | JetPac Refuled | 408 | -41.42% | $5.00 | $2,040 | 87,753 | $438,767 | 03/28/07 |
| 99 | Gripshift | 398 | 13.41% | $10.00 | $3,984 | 18,450 | $184,497 | 12/12/07 |
| 100 | Centepede & Millipede | 345 | -1.41% | $5.00 | $1,725 | 35,876 | $179,380 | 05/02/07 |
| 281,136 | $795 | $2,277,899 | 19,298,865 | $144,944,098 |
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Worms and TMNT are neck on neck for the top LTD sales position for games never free/promoted/etc.
Worms is going to be #1 in 1/2 weeks with about 580k units sold. Not that bad.
The claim that PAA is the fastest selling XBLA is completely inaccurate. Get the facts straight that title still belongs to SFII'HF.
Yeah. 3rd best in 08... ;)
Best, however, in terms of revenue as far as I've seen.
And someone tell Gabe "third best launch EVER" is incorrect...
Whoa, mrstickball's sales estimates from his comment above were regurgitated on Penny Arcade by Gabe just an hour ago.
http://penny-arcade.com/2008/5/26/
mrstickball says:
Top Debuts would be:
Rez HD ~25k
Ikaruga ~22.5k
Penny Arcade ~ 16.5k
N+ ~13k
So the game has been out for a few days now and I can share a couple numbers with you. It turns out that we had the third best launch ever as far as units sold in the 3 day launch window. The actual list looks like this. Keep in mind that this is just for the 360.
1 RezHD, 25k units
2 Ikaruga, 22.5k units
3 PAA Episode 1, 16.5k units
4 N+, 13k units
Youre right, i know plenty of people who see their old time favourites only to realise that the tinted glasses of nostalgia can only carry a game so far and that the 400/800 couldve been so much better spent.
Its a good idea i guess, because MS are all about quality control, if they convince people Arcade is all about different/unique and easy to pick up games that also happen to have a lot of quality, then overall not only will devs be more careful but casuals will be interested a lot more too.
I think they'll do that instead of remove the game, Oem...It makes no financial sense to totally remove under-performing games. I understand that they might see it and say "people are downloading the trial to these games, and NOT buying them. We need to make sure they download higher-converted games, because they'll be more likely to buy them".
That's the issue here:
1) User gets on XBLA to look at arcade games
2) User browses through a few games real quick, and sees a poorly-done retro game
3) User downloads it
4) User doesn't buy it since it sucks
If the crappy games weren't there, they might download another game that has that higher chance of sale. Which I totally understand that. But I'd see alot of developer backlash if the game they worked hard on suddenly dissapeared from making money.
TBH, what is their problem with them, i mean, why dont they delist them and then put them into a more obscure part, the fact they even sell a few copies must mean they are covering the costs of being up there
6% of consumers that downloaded the demo, bought the game.
Initially, Microsoft said that XBLA games were seeing anywhere from a 15-30% Conversion rate from Demo to Paid - very high.
So I'd think that the 6% conversion rate would be key with the whole "killing off" of games. Chances are, I'd think that people that downloaded any given $5 Arcade Game, had a better chance at converting it. Likewise...A niche game like Triggerheart probably saw shmup-lovers become the ones that focused on the DL's, so those games should be safe too.
Ultimately, the turds are the ones that will go...Look at the top 100, and think about what games aren't on it (hint: Wing Commander Arena and Screwjumper)...That, IMO will be the big factor. Some games are selling sub-100 units a WEEK. Those games are near-meaningless for the market, and I'd think those games will be the first to go, if MS does hack 'em off.
I can look at that list, and see plenty of titles that are not only good games but would especially appeal to a few select people. Lol heck, even Discs of Tron is a game that somebody i know loves to death, even though he back in the day would never play games, would rip apart any arcade machine with it to the extent they would have to remove some of his scores so that people actually played
Either way, i think youve done a great job on the list so it would be a lot better to have the whole list but its still great as it is. Also what do they mean by 6% return rate?
even though it's free, why wouldn't they get rid of yaris? It's the definition of crappiness!
Yeah. AW is free, so is Yaris.
aegis wing is free? no wonder it sells so well.
I stopped listing the below-100 titles for site bandwidth and stuff. At one point, they limited what I could put in the charts.
Oemenia - MS isn't wanting to get rid of the duds. They want to get rid of the POS shovelware titles that they somehow approved (Disks of Tron, I am looking at YOU!)
What is giving N+ it's legs? WOM has been fantastic, and it's an addictive little platformer. Very few "true" platformers on the 360 leaves N+ in a great spot.
PSN has very VERY few of the same games that XBL has..Gripshift, Rocketmen: AoE, Castlevania: SOTN are the only ones I can think of. I'd be willing to say that PSN has under 7 games that are on XBL..So the XBLA list is very high on "exclusives" to any given downloadable service (but many are old VC-esque games too).
Assuming Metacritic scores, and attach rates went in hand, the following Arcade games would be in danger:
Crystal Quest
Speedball 2
Hardwood Hearts
Texas Hold 'Em
Fatal Fury Special
Contra
Marathon: Durandal
Triggerheart Exelica
Missle Command
Time Pilot
Track & Field
Hardwood Backgammon
Hardwood Spades
Pac Man
Frogger
Mad Tracks
Root Beer Tapper
Super Contra
Geon: Emotions
Soltrio Solitare
Arkadian Warriors
TiQal
Rush N Attack
Aegis Wings
Defender
Rocketmen: AoE
Double Dragon
Xevious
Gyruss
Asteriods + Deluxe
Battlestar Galactica
Cenepede + Millipede
Boogie Bunnies
Spyglass Board Games
Brain Challenge
Tetris Splash
Ecco the Dolphin
Battlezone
Yie Ar Kung Fu
Wing Commander Arena
Novadrome
Shrek N Roll
Mr. Driller Online
Scramble
Tempest
Discs of Tron
Totemball
Bliss Island
Cyberball 2072
Screwjumper!
Rocky & Bullwinkle
Yaris
Now, think about what XBLA's top sellers are, and remove them from the Metacritic under-65 list.
Are games released in PSN similar to XBL?
Is there any way I can know which games are XBL exclusive?
Just for bragging rights.
BTW, whats giving N+ its legs, and also, how come you have stopped listing all titles? Im guessing the complete list is only like 30 or so titles longer?
I think it sucks they are getting rid of 'duds,' stuff like say Triggerheart Exelica are niche titles that many shooter fans will enjoy regardless of how short it is (the only drawback in fact). Also, Radiant Silvergun wont make it, its a pretty ugly game with a weird aspect ratio, almost nobody has heard of it (other than hardcore shooter fans) and MS have started to reject other great shooters like DonPachi and DoDonPachi.
DevilishSix, there were already rumors of Radiant Silvergun coming to XBLA, and I would think the nice sales for Ikaruga have probably sealed that.
The two games that really deserve better sales are Omega 5 at 82 and Gripshift almost off the chart at 99.
Both games are awesome, check out Omega 5 if you enjoyed Ikaruga, and Gripshift is 100x better that Mad Tracks yet for some reason it has sold 1/5 as well.
I encourage everyone reading this to try both Omega 5 and Gripshift, and then to buy them!
Based on the huge jumps for free games like Aegis Wing, Yaris and Totemball, and popular games like Uno, Sonic, and Mortal Kombat, I suspect the release of the Penny Arcade game attracted a lot of first-time buyers to the XBLA section of the Marketplace.
Undertow: I don't think it's still high on the charts because people continue to unlock their free copies, I think it's now selling well based on increased name recognition and word of mouth. The same thing happened with Carcassonne.
Strategyking92:
Yaris cannot be removed based on the criteria for removing games (6% sell through) unless Microsoft makes an exception in order to dump it. Unfortunately, I doubt they will when it's a top "selling" game.
ALSO, in light of recent news, bye-bye Yaris!
aegis wing is great, and free!
To MS: make the fable xbla game free with pre-order of fable 2.
Top Debuts would be:
Rez HD ~25k
Ikaruga ~22.5k
Penny Arcade ~ 16.5k
N+ ~13k
Brain Challenge ~ 9.8k
Assault Heroes 2 ~ 9.6k
Poker Smash ~ 9.3k
Metal Slug 3 ~ 8k
Give or take.
thanks mrstickball for the explanation. you mentioned penny arcade as 3rd best debut, what were the other two? also is my favorite xbla game and i am hoping it does well so maybe just maybe Treasure might redo Radiant Silvergun in HD, its such an awesome game and not many outside of Japan have had the luxury of experiencinit.
Again, Ikaruga was quite high last week, so if anything, this just averaged out sales.
I keep adding to revenue because new players unlock their copies of Undertow. Any units sold past the 20,000 are irrelevant for revenue. But how do I know (or not know) what MS is giving Chair for the fact UT was free?
But yeah, im really disgusted that Penny Arcade are doing this, if you go on Steam, 'episodic' games arent even that much. Im not talking about Sin or HL, those are almost expansion packs, but stuff like Sam and Max dont even cost that much. 1200 points is simply too much, but yeah, for an ambitious game like this, it wouldve been acceptable
Just shows why im seriously against digital distribution, 90% of my games are used, im scared that the next generation of consoles wont even have drives
Good sales i guess, Ikaruga dropped a lot this week, but yeah i was wondering exactly the same thing, how MN seems to have different results then you. One more thing though, games like Undertow, it sold a certain number of copies from it being free, yet it continues to sell and you keep adding to the revenue. Can you clear up whats exactly happening?
Well, Penny Arcade had the 3rd highest debut this year, and was a bit stronger than previous #3, N+ (at 13k).
I fully understand the revenue = meaningless argument, but the fact is that this is very notable because consumers are willing to pay $15-$20 for a high quality game, and could give us some insight (maybe) to the $15 Xbox Originals.
How hard is it to get the highest revenue when your game costs double and triple nearly every other game anyways? It's like guitar hero grossing more "revenue", it's a hollow accomplishment when other games come out and sell more actual copies.
I say somebody should come out with a $1,000 game and once 300,000 people buy it, boom 300 million in revenue! That's earning it.
Devilish - I track data differently than Major Nelson. He uses a Tuesday-Monday reporting period. I use a Saturday-Friday reporting period. Because of this, new releases have 3 days to amass sales vs. MN's 7 days (he has no PAA data, I do). Last week, I had Ikaruga at 4, with a freebie title above it, therefore being 3rd.
Because of that, Ikaruga is going to vary a little bit between my data sets, and MN's. My data is based on MGC Leaderboards vs. his actuals. Because of this, our data tends to "Lag" a bit. A game most likely sells more early, and we report it a little bit later. Lets wait to see where MN has Ikaruga at next week before passing judgement about my numbers being off. Also, there are multiple titles ahead of Ikaruga at #29 that aren't counted on Major Nelson's list, such as Aegis Wings (he's never had it on his charts), Undertow (still counting free activiations), Yaris (free, he's never tracked it), Carcassonne (free activations). Not only this, you have Arcade Bundles which can tend to over-inflate some games numbers (Uno, PacMan CE, Boom Boom Rocket, Feeding Frenzy, ect). And you have Texas Hold'Em, which I probably need to decrease on the charts in favor of the fact that there are still more unlocks on the game even though the freebie period was oh-so long ago.
Hopefully this explains some of why numbers are off vs. Major Nelson. We're typically within 10-15% of what Microsoft Actuals are (or so I am told)...So give it a week and see where Ikaruga is. If it's lower on MN's list, than lets talk more about why I could be wrong. But until then, it was #2 last week in sales.
I tried out the PA game demo on PC. For a second there I thought they'd somehow combined puzzle adventure with RPG, but I was disappointed when I figured out that the click navigation is just a somewhat slicker replacement for D-pad/thumbstick navigation of other RPGs.
As an RPG it has nice art and character, but the demo felt pretty linear and a little dull gameplay-wise. I'm pretty jaded when it comes to RPGs, though, so don't take my opinion to mean that it isn't awesome for you RPG-mongers.
i am not buying your numbers. a couple days ago major nelson had assault heros at the number 1 purchased game of the week and you still have its total at 8,000+ units, which is the same that you had it at last week? he also had Ikaruga at number 6, but you have it at number 29. your numbers dont jive, you are missing data.
Penny arcade definitely deserves it. 200/200 in the game, and well worth 20 bucks.
Aegis Wing is a complete beast, and I'm glad that Penny Arcade Adventures is doing well. I might just have to buy it...
