Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Tops an Estimated 25M Units Sold Worldwide at Retail - Sales

That's a ridiculous metric to go by. Some of the others were massively bundled on the 360. They'd not have sold as much without that. Why stop including bundles now??

BO3 on PS4 was mass bundled, it came with the entry level model for free. CoD games on 360 had special editions consoles and were more expensive. That's the difference.

It was the main selling 360 bundle at the time. it inflated those titles like this inflated them. But they still count. Fact is the game sold 25m and that's superb. It will sell a lot more too.

Again, a free copy of BO3 at the entry level is not the same as a more expensive special edition bundle which is what CoD did on 360. If they didn't mass bundle BO3 there would be a huge decline in physical sales.

On a side note, I'm curious to see if CoD gets a mass bundling this year as well. If not, I predict a big decline.

If Microsoft didn't mass bundle cod last gen they'd have sold a lot less. Fact. That hugely increased their sales just like the ps4 has.

I predict the slim will get a cod bundle this year and I predict like always it sells gangbusters. Cod4 is a big addition that will help against the natural decline.

Those 360 bundles of CoD were about a $100 more expensive than the standard HDD model (around $400). CoD on PS4 was free with the entry level model ($300 during the holiday). Its amazing you can't see the difference.

They aren't $100 more than the equivalent model they were bundled with. It's amazing you can't see that. Bo3 isn't the only Playstation bundle so the consumers decide they want cod. The game sells the bundle.

BO3 wasn't bundled with the $400 model PS4. It was bundled with the entry level $300 PS4. That's a huge point you're neglecting for obvious reasons. If BO3 was only bundled with $400 models it would have sold significantly less and you know it.

Lmao the limited edition elite bundles were $400. Standard were leas. https://majornelson.com/2011/09/02/xbox-360-limited-edition-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-console-wireless-headset-with-bluetooth-and-wireless-controller/

If call of duty in the past wasn't bundle with 360 it would have sold significantly less and you know it. That's my point.

Of course 360 boosted other entries of the franchise but Blops 3 was definitely the one that benefited most from bundling in the franchise, there just wasn't any other choice if you wanted a PS4 you either paid $349 for CoD bundle or $349 for a standalone console, There were NPD months that the CoD bundle accounted for 90%+ of ALL PS4 sales.

The 360 CoD special editions were basically like buying the game outright, they were more expensive than the non-HDD and standard HDD console. Meanwhile the basic the basic PS4 had BO3, so its obvious BO3 benefited more from bundles than any CoD ever. Kerotan thinks I'm taking a jab at Sony so he's bringing 360 into this. For some reason he can't see the difference between an expensive special edition and a mass bundling.

Only expensive limited editions? How about this value bundle which includes black ops 1 and 2 for $199? Don't forget BO1 had another bundle 2 years previous. Massively inflated sales.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/consoles/bundles/500GB-holiday-bundle

Checkmate.

I think you mean the BO2 and Ghosts bundle, those games were old at that point. That bundle was generally $249 as well. The PS4 mass bundling of BO3 came near launch. Again, you're try making an argument and fail to mention major details.

You're just ignoring the fact that many millions of cod copies were sold via bundles on 360. It was a bo2 and BO1 in the same package. It was a cheap value pack. I remember that bundle massively inflating sales for both games.

This is an important detail because you want to push the idea of bo3 should have fallen a ton on BO1 and 2. But it doesn't hold weight because the total for BO1 and 2 are also massively inflated.

Oh boy... you're ignoring so many obvious facts. That 360 bundle was launched in 2014, 360 sales had declined massively at that point, and those games were a year or older at that point. To the contrary, PS4's BO3 bundle came near the game's launch, at the entry level price, while PS4 is a very relevant platform. Again, this isn't a jab at Sony so settle down. Its more of a reflection on how CoD is declining in physical sales. You're arguing with me for no reason because I'm obviously right.

How can you say I'm missing obvious facts and then you go and cherry pick the facts. Yes it got a BO1 and 2 value bundle that sold a few million late on, but both BO1 and bo2 got their own bundles at launch aswell as a regular bundle for the months after.

My point is crystal clear. Past cod sales are also massively boosted by bundles. You also keep bringing up that you're not taking a jab at Sony. But I never accused you of doing so. So why do you keep feeling the need to "re-assure" me you're not!

Again, a more expensive special edition isnt going to move units nearly as well as the entry level PS4 with BO3. Its obvious to everybody but you apparently.

Youre only talking to me because you felt I was taking a jab at PS4.

I talk to a lot of people. Are they all taking jabs? Again you're the one who keeps bringing it up.

If you've paid attention to sales all last gen you'd see cod 360 sales were always massively boosted by bundles. millions upon millions of cod was sold via xbox bundles and these certainly inflated it's sales big time.

If those Xbox CoD bundles sold so incredibly well at a high price then why did they bundle CoD with the entry price PS4?

No CoD has more inflated sales numbers than BO3 on PS4.

I didn't say more but that's besides the point. The point is they are all massively inflated so the decrease wouldn't be as bad as you tried to make it seem. All cods get bundles it's just the combination of BO3 (an excellent game) with the ps4 (the sexiest console ever) was too irresistible for consumers to turn down.

There were other bundles available but the public chose that one because they actually wanted the game.

My OP was simply pointing out there would be a mass decline in physical sales without those $299-349 PS4 bundles with Black Op 3. You agree with me but argue anyway.

I'm aware of that and I make the simple point that cherry picking it like you have makes no sense. Sure why don't you say if other cods had no bundle then bo3 would have increased even more. Fact is they've all been bundled so obviously they'd sell less without that.

Free bundled game at entry level price = inflated software sales. For example, Gears of War UE sold great because it was bundled with the $299 X1.

Correct. And hyped cod games bundled with 360 = inflated sales. Those bundles shifted millions.

Those 360 bundles of newly launched CoD were never entry level price.

Lol so the bundle has to be entry level to inflate sales. Lawd!!! Fact is the 360 bundles massively inflated sales. Which is the point.

The entry level price is what gave BO3 on PS4 a massive sales inflation.

Incorrect. If that bundle was sold for say $20/30 more it would still move millions.

And the main point is, if those 360 bundles didn't exist those cods would have sold less. It's sales 101.

But the BO3 PS4 bundle wasn't $20/30 more, it was the same entry level price. You can't say that about the 360 bundles with a new CoD game.

What I can say is that regardless of price they are still bundles and they all sell. If you're going to take away the bo3 bundles to try and argue a massive decline you need to also remove the 360 bundles. They will be less than the number for bo3 but they are millions which makes the decline a lot less.

These are facts. no amount of Thumbs up or down can change facts!

A PS4 with BO3 free at entry level price is not equal to the more expensive 360 special edition bundles. But the $450 BO3 bundle is equal to those 360 CoD bundles.

They're not equal to them all. But glad you're finally coming around to my side of the argument. I never said they were equal. I said they were major factors in boosting past cod sales. And if you're going to stop counting the bo3 bundles you need to factor out the 360 bundles too. The decline would a lot less then.

Your argument is high priced special editions sell really well, perhaps millions. If that was the case the only bundle for BO3 would have been $450. That would be very profitable, its amazing they gave it away with a entry level PS4. That's the hole in your argument.

Nope you're once again ignoring they had multiple bundles not just a higher one. And yes those cod bundles did sell well.

Anyway NPD proving that cod is selling these bundles because the game is awesome.

"Despite the Slim PS4 release the Call of Duty: Black Ops III bundles continued to dominate the bundle market: ~175K range"

I guess BO3 is just a super appealing beast!

The declining beast.

You gotta love it when NPD comes out to prove you right. The timing... Surely this was planned?? Kerotan you mastermind!!

Yeah it was worse played it only for ten minutes and deleted it from my pc

Worst COD ever the best one was Blackops 2

Worst COD ever the best one was Blackops 2

Black Ops is in my view the best, then Blops2. Personal view. :)

@TheFury: mine aswell Treyarch is ruined by Activision with their BS policies

Black Ops III support for the multiplayer was simple amazing. Lot of update after months and months, and some were also gratis.
The general gameplay is far better than WaW, and in general old CODs. Is faster, and more fun to play. Specialists were a nice surprise, some were simple amazing. The only bad thing was the single player, overall Zombie and multiplayer Black Ops III is by far the best.

Opinion. :p

I'd say cod4 but I respect your opinion.

So never played COD 4 COD 2 COD UO and Blackops

Conveniently ignoring the $199 value bundle of BO1 + bo2. And you're missing the point. I never said they were equal so you can stop trying to convince me what I already know and actually address the point.