Nintendo Details Holiday & 2011 Figures for the US Market
by Jacob Mazel, posted on 03 January 2012 / 3,738 Views
Nintendo of America has announced some holiday figures, and total 2011 figures for the US market.
According to its press release:
- The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword became the 45th Wii game to top 1m units in the US this past December.
- Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 are the fastest selling portable games in those franchises in the US, and became the first 3DS games to top 1m units in the US.
- Mario Kart Wii passed 11m units in the US, with New Super Mario Bros. topping 10m units on the DS.
- Nintendo says it sold more than 4m 3DS systems in the US during 2011, following the launch of the system in late March 2011. Through November, NPD figures showed almost 2.5m 3DS systems sold in the US - so the 4m+ figure appears to indicate a 1.55m or so (give or take 50,000 to rounding) December barring a big difference between Nintendo's internal data and NPD. Nintendo also notes that 3DS sold more in its first nine months than Wii did - which is true - 4m+ for 3DS to 3.6m for Wii.
- Nintendo says it sold more than 3.4m DS systems in the US in 2011, for a lifetime total slightly over 51m. Through November, DS had sold about 3.2m in the US in 2011 by NPD's data, so the figure seems to indicate a soft December due to age and saturation unless Nintendo had a substantially different running total for DS in its internal numbers than NPD did (NPD had almost 51m for DS through November though).
- Nintendo also said Wii "sold more than 4.5m" units in 2011, for lifetime figures of 39m in the US market. Here it appears the figures are significantly different from NPD vs. internal tracking, as reaching 39m would indicate a ~4.9m year, and a 1.35m December based on NPD's totals for 2011. It is of course possible that Nintendo decided to say 'more than 4.5m' because Wii didn't reach 5m. In December 2009, Nintendo said they sold over '3m Wiis' in a press-release for December, against 3.81m reported by NPD so there is probably a fair amount of range to the figures.
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14 Comments
Nintendo said they sold over '3m Wiis' in a press-release for December, against 3.81m reported by NPD so there is probably a fair amount of range to the figures. They havn't had any problems lately saying 'nearly XXX' in NPD, if it was 4.9 I'm sure they'd say nearly 5m, it sounds more impressive than more than 4.5m. I say it's somewhere in the middle.
Didn't OOT3D reach a Million sold in America? Anyway it's still a great accomplishment (especially in such little time.)
OOT3D passes 1mil with the bundles which nintendo doesn't count as sales I believe.
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I think DS is under tracked about about 500K here. 51M up to 31st December, VG have it around 50.480M.
It loks like Nintendo is not taking into consideration last week of 211. I do not think we are overtracking everything is Nintendo..e.g 3Ds and Zelda Ocarina of time.
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Well if we do not count this week 3DS is a 4.10 mil in USa so I can see where is overtarcked if teh article says more than 4 mil. 100k more is ok to be considered a +.
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Zelda sold over 350K, Super Mario Land sold over 400k possibly and Mario Kart 7 did more than a million in its first month. Great sales for all!
These numbers suggest that the Wii is slightly overtracked aswell, with the Wii already over 39 million with a week to go. Also the year to date sales on VGChartz in the US so far are already at 5,4 million(again with still a week to go), while it says here Wii didn't pass 5 million?
I was told NPD is not accurate last time I commented about VGC having Wii overtracked by about 150k in the month of November. VGC has Wii at 1million for the month of November (U.S.A.) and NPD has it at 850k in the same time frame.
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Who told you that, if you don't mind me asking? I ask this only because I am 100% confident that NPD has more coverage for U.S. sales than VGChartz does, so it is very easy to assume that NPD numbers are more accurate, regardless of what anyone says.
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Now, if anyone from this site has issue with what I said, please let me know, because I feel that I said nothing wrong. Just because someone frequents this site, not to mention LOVES the work they put in, it doesn't mean they are required to take it as gospel.
Just saying. :-)
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Now, if anyone from this site has issue with what I said, please let me know, because I feel that I said nothing wrong. Just because someone frequents this site, not to mention LOVES the work they put in, it doesn't mean they are required to take it as gospel.
Just saying. :-)
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I'll save you the trouble, I'm constantly telling him that NPD is not 100% accurate and he shouldn't expect our numbers to mirror theirs. For all we know these November numbers include an adjustment from October, it's impossible to tell with how they hide them. As long as we fall within 5% - 10% of NPD numbers at the end of the year, I think the numbers are fine.
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And I am no way saying vgchartz is more accurate than NPD, because without major luck on a consistent basis it's impossible, but NPD isn't like Chart-Track, they don't have the full coverage. And I think Wii numbers for the year will probably need a small adjustment. I just get annoyed with people like dsage because he screams for an adjustment on anything that isn't exactly the same as NPD numbers.
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Im sorry but look how off are numbers are when compared to Nintendo's! It's half a million off with one more week (one of the biggest weeks) And chart track doesn't have full coverage it has about 90% and VGC just adds another 10% to each game and system which is completly fine to me. If the numbers are a bit off i'm still fine with that but when the rankings are off that pisses me off. According to NPD PS3 sold 50k more than the Wii and here we have the Wii outselling the PS3 by 150k in the same region and month (november)... tell me that makes sense
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Like I said, with NPD you never know because of how they hide adjustments - often I see how our numbers are corrected to be identical with theirs, and then we to start to follow the pattern set by that month, only for the next NPD release to show something completely different that was more in line with our original sales pattern. The one that I'll never forget was March 2008, we were quite under on PS3/360 for the month compared to NPD, on a month with no major releases. So we adjusted, and with the release of GTA IV it seemed like sales would explode even higher. Yet somehow in the end PS3/360 sold over 25% less from the month before - despite GTA selling over 3m copies. Either the month defied all logic, or NPD overtracked for March (+any other month) and corrected in April, which completely screws us up for the month.
But I agree it has accumulated to a point where Wii should be adjusted down, not all from that month but from many months over the year.
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For those asking, VGC has the 3DS at 2.06 mil units in the US, with one week of Dec still remaining. So if the estimates are correct, it is overtracked by ~460K so far. Of course, this will certainly be addressed after NPD is released. Strange the 3DS dropped ~900K in the busiest shopping month in the US. Also, this would move the 3DS closer to PS3's numbers for the year. IF, just IF, the PS3 is slightly undertracked, and the 3DS is overtracked in other regions, PS3 has a shot at being the #1 selling console of 2011. Either way, it'll be fun watching things progress.
Whoops, lol. Misread the sentence. Thought it said 2.5 for Nov. Silly me. :-D So disregard that part. The rest of my post is fine, though.
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VGC has PS3 at 850k just in the U.S.A. and NPD and Sony stated PS3 sold 900k.
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DS : 51m/313m = 16.3 : that's the exact same penetration rate as France's one. The US was a bit slow to buy the DS but the gap is gone with Europe.
I am always amazed how all Nintendo console are always overtracked according to most people in here and the rest is always undertracked.... We all know the Sony is famous to pump sales of everything belomgs to them, starting from Sony Music artist to Dvd and everything, I am not surprised that even all consoles, games numbers are faked... Said so all companies should tend to increase their sales number... at least i hope so....
Nintendo says 3DS sold 4m+ in 2011
VGC says 4.79m with one week remaining. Likely ~5m with this last week.
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2.11 million for December according to vgc so far with a week to go. If Nintendo actually sold 2.5 up through November, and the "over 4m" statement by Nintendo actually means 4.4m, then 3ds is overtracked quite a bit.
However, the first week on vgc account for 3 days of november, so we can shave off say 120k. So 1.9m with a week to go according to vgc, plus the 2.5 through november = 4.4.
However, the problem is that there is a week unaccounted for. If we were to spread the numbers more evenly by, say 20%, what you could basically do is shave 20% off of every week in December.
The alternative is that much fewer consoles were sold through november than npd thinks, say 500k, and the december could be fine. (Though NPD is doing much less guesswork nowadays, so it could be Nintendo's numbers that are off.
Either way, vgc is sitting at 4.7, so it's already 200k+1week overtracked SOMEWHERE, Japan is typically a big week this last week, so it could be a lot.
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2.11 million for December according to vgc so far with a week to go. If Nintendo actually sold 2.5 up through November, and the "over 4m" statement by Nintendo actually means 4.4m, then 3ds is overtracked quite a bit.
However, the first week on vgc account for 3 days of november, so we can shave off say 120k. So 1.9m with a week to go according to vgc, plus the 2.5 through november = 4.4.
However, the problem is that there is a week unaccounted for. If we were to spread the numbers more evenly by, say 20%, what you could basically do is shave 20% off of every week in December.
The alternative is that much fewer consoles were sold through november than npd thinks, say 500k, and the december could be fine. (Though NPD is doing much less guesswork nowadays, so it could be Nintendo's numbers that are off.
Either way, vgc is sitting at 4.7, so it's already 200k+1week overtracked SOMEWHERE, Japan is typically a big week this last week, so it could be a lot.
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