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Forza Motorsport 4 (X360) > Opinions (350)

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darkenergy posted 28/11/2017, 11:48
Forza Horizon 3 will likely pass lifetime sales of Forza Motorsport 4 in Europe by the end 2017, if not then before Forza Horizon 4 releases.
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Chris Hu posted 26/03/2014, 08:58
Got all the achievement for this game now the Porsche DLC ones where super easy to unlock.
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sales2099 posted 30/07/2013, 08:39
4 million :)
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sales2099 posted 09/01/2013, 02:34
The point was not to seperate the two just because one sold more then the other before bundles. Forza 4 sold 2.5 b4 bundles and thats amazing.
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sub-zero-TM posted 09/01/2013, 01:39
@ lol first of all nobody asked you anything and why are you so bitter about what i said? uc3's massive bundling has only started recently and the game was already at 5m or above before the bundling the uc franchise is undertracked a lot here, so my point was that the uncharted games sold a lot before the heavy bundling started but i'm happy how they pushed the sales a lot this holiday so yeah

Thank god for bundles!!!
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think-man posted 08/01/2013, 08:24
Hahaha yeah Thank god for bundles XD
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Mr Puggsly posted 08/01/2013, 02:30
@ sub-zero-TM - Typical Sony fan logic. UC3 sold more therefore its massive bundling should be neglected.

I think Sony fans are just bitter because 2012 was a horrible year for Sony. Forza Horizon sold better than any Sony release of 2012.
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sub-zero-TM posted 07/01/2013, 10:48
@sales2099 hahahah! :D but hey uc3 was at or even above 5m before the bundles for it even started, uncharted franchise is undertracked here.
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sales2099 posted 07/01/2013, 09:30
Wander...I didnt check the Uncharted 3 page, you better have said your exact line there too :P
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Wander_ posted 07/01/2013, 08:06
Thank GOD!! for bundles.
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Wander_ posted 07/01/2013, 08:05
Thank GOD!! for bundles.
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Mr Puggsly posted 25/12/2012, 03:18
@ pezus - You didn't even make a point. He's right, both franchises would be smaller if it wasn't for bundling. And your response is Uncharted 3 sold better?

So lets do the math. Uncharted sells better therefore we should ignore its also heavily bundled? Great argument! You only get that logic from die hard Sony fans.
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T.Rexington posted 13/12/2012, 08:05
Just bought this earlier in the week. Had a gift card and decide to give this a purchase. Loving it so far. It's as awesome as when I rented it. Graphics are great, the autovista is awesome and informative, and the racing is just plain fun. I tried the Horizon demo and it just didn't feel as good as 4. I don't know what it is, but this was an awesome game.
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sales2099 posted 10/12/2012, 02:45
lol Rockyb haters gonna hate. Nevermind the bundles Sony has going on this holiday.

Every Forza makes a profit well before its bundled. And it sold 2.5 million on its own, which is more then what many 360/PS3 exclusive Ips can do.

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Chris Hu posted 10/12/2012, 06:36
The new king of bundles is Nintendo Land. I'm sure 95% of its sales come through bundles. I know I wouldn't spend $59.99 US on a collection of mini games.
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pezus posted 09/12/2012, 11:06
@JustThatGamer: Because Uncharted actually sells a lot throughout the year when it isn't being force-bundled.
However, I wouldn't call this franchise the king of bundles. That one goes to Kinect Adventures and Wii Sports.
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JustThatGamer posted 09/12/2012, 01:45
No Rockyb, Uncharted is the king of bundled sales. Both franchises would be significantly smaller if they weren't mass bundled so I don't understand why Forza is the only franchise that gets trolled for being bundled.
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Rockyb posted 09/12/2012, 02:43
forza , king of bundled sales
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Rockyb posted 09/12/2012, 02:43
forza , king of bundled sales
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T.Rexington posted 07/12/2012, 11:54
I'm still holding out for a ultimate edition of FM4, or a double pack that has 4/Horizon. I might finally break. I rented this a while back and I can honestly say it was the best time I ever had with a racing game. I really enjoyed the mini-docs of the cars, the ability to explore them inside and out, and it'll be a nice game to bring to my brothers house and use the kinect with. Plus the graphics, sound, and feel of the cars are all just great. Glad to see it's still selling so well.
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sales2099 posted 23/11/2012, 05:07
I refer you to metacritic for your quality remark....please leave it at that. I do however think Forza 5 is gonna be a next gen Xbox title, considering the 2013 launch rumors
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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 23/11/2012, 04:51
apart from need for speed that has sold over 21 million this gen, EA's need for speed is the most successful racing game franchise this gen (not sim just racing games), im not posting this to start an argument im just posting what what ive seen.

forza is doing very well this gen but id rather see quality then 'gang-up', forza 5 will no doubt be the last forza game on the 360 so i hope they do it justice.
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sales2099 posted 23/11/2012, 03:45
think-man

one oe one no sim will ever match GT, but Forza is using the gang-up approach to hopefully sell more this gen "as a franchise", which is also a big step forward for the IP.
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think-man posted 22/11/2012, 02:39
@ Colocho Well said! or though Forza 3 made a good effort to catch GT5, I don't think there will ever be a racing franchise as big as GT.
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sales2099 posted 22/11/2012, 01:46
Bundle sales starting to ramp up :)
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Colocho posted 17/11/2012, 07:37
If I said it once, I said it a million times. Selling 2.5 to 3mil lifetime is a great achievement. It's not fair to compare the sales of this franchise to that of GT's. That's like comparing KillZone's numbers to Halo. GT is to Sony what Halo is to Xbox.. Good job Forza.
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VGKing posted 16/11/2012, 07:56
I think MS is milking this franchise too much and the sales show it. It only sells near holidays when bundled.
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Nsanity posted 16/11/2012, 06:45
@pezus: How is landing Metacritic scoring of 85 for a spin off tanking?
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Nsanity posted 16/11/2012, 06:45
@pezus: How is landing Metacritic scoring of 85 for a spin off tanking?
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C-M-D posted 16/11/2012, 12:48
This game has such great legs in the UK.
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Barozi posted 15/11/2012, 05:56
I've dealt with the recent comments.

Don't reply to any of them. Don't start these stupid arguments ever again.
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sales2099 posted 15/11/2012, 01:57
The childish comments and insults only make you look worse. Dont like Forza, then get out of this page.

FYI. Forza Horizon and Forza 4 each selling higher then GT5 this week :)
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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 15/11/2012, 07:44
sales pal your a worthless pain in the ass, look i dont care about your excuses you are just as bad as they are in fact id say you are the very reason why they keep coming back so just drop your stupid argument get off your high horse and quit using flamebait, if it not such a big deal why do you keep making froza vs GT comments ? dust drop it already, how old are you 8, 9 ?
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sales2099 posted 14/11/2012, 02:15
It will only stop when GT fanboys stop being insecure and therefore stop coming here in some pathetic attempt to counter Forza fans to feel better about losing.......as if its gonna change the metacritic differences and that Forza releases 3x faster.

But in the end, its not that big a deal
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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 09/11/2012, 06:41
you do realise the easiest way to make this just like the GT5 comments is to stop the meatacritic, sales, popularity rubbish, the constant forza this and gt that, if you ignore the GT fans and just communicate with the forza fans this whole debate will go away, its this constant fighting that keeps it going, its like your trying to put out the flames with gasoline.
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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 09/11/2012, 06:33
i give up, it looks like the stupid children never learn, no one cares anymore, first its sales then its review scores then its this gen god just give it a rest, these pages would be far better without the constant meta this and sales that. grow up.
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sales2099 posted 09/11/2012, 03:32
FYI, I stay out of the GT5 comment section and it tends to be clean, only Gt fans comment there. But Forza 3 used to and now 4 seems to get the GT fans a lot.

Its all born of some insecurity that this gen saw the dethroning of GT as the best quality racer/sim and releases 3x slower. Ironically, for a kind that cant talk about sales, they play the sales card here.
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sales2099 posted 09/11/2012, 03:24
I am referring offcoruse to this gen. Last gen only had one Forza release compared to two GT. PS1 era Forza didn't even exist. Typical that GT5 needs its older brothers to fish it out.

GT5 - 84
GT5 Prologue - 80
GT PSP - 74

Forza 2, Forza 3, Forza 4 - 90+
Forza Horizon - 85
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pezus posted 09/11/2012, 02:59
Although before Horizon the Forza average was only 91.25, still less than GT.
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pezus posted 09/11/2012, 02:58
Afraid you can't pull the metacritic card anymore since the Forza franchise tanked in metascore (using your own words) with the latest release.
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pezus posted 09/11/2012, 02:57
Not sure how you come to that conclusion:

GT1 - 96 Forza 1 - 92
GT2 - 93 Forza 2 - 90
GT3 - 95 Forza 3 - 92
GT4 - 89 Forza 4 - 91
GT5 - 84 Forza Horizon - 85

Average:

GT: 91.4 Forza: 90


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sales2099 posted 09/11/2012, 02:51
But also, next week Forza 4 bundle sales kick in! FYI GT5 has had bundle sales for about 2 weeks now.
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sales2099 posted 09/11/2012, 02:49
Well pulling the metacritic card means a definite defeat to the GT camp. I mean wow did GT just tank in quality this gen.

So they refer to sales. 1 on 1 GT always wins. But going by "franchise sales" this gen, Forza is right in GT's rear view mirror :)

And keep in mind this is MS's 3rd string exclusive, GT is Sonys #1
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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 08/11/2012, 09:18
again what was the point if we include all GT franchises from this gen its outsold every forza franchise to date, there really is no point to this stupid argument, who cares if one franchise has outsold the other they are both fantastic franchises in their own rights so why all the 'this franchise is better nonsense' its pathetic, time to grow up children.
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sales2099 posted 08/11/2012, 03:35
But not 2 and 3 combined. :)
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think-man posted 02/11/2012, 11:48
So GT5 has outsold forza 3 and 4 combined nice.
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pezus posted 26/10/2012, 03:21
Mr Puggsly: Don't be a hypocrite. You brought up "PS exclusives" right at the start. If you want to mention PS exclusives, why not mention the most relevant one?
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Mr Puggsly posted 24/10/2012, 06:09
Not sure what you guys are always babbling about GT5. I don't see much Halo discussion in the Resistance or Killzone walls. Either way, if these Forza games can keep selling 2 million I think that's a good enough reason to keep pumping them out.
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Normando posted 21/10/2012, 05:36
Well, the issue with comparing the sales of two games in the same series to one is that you'll get the same people buying both games. So the sales might be higher but you'd have less people buying them.

Also, although I think Horizon looks really good (minus all the dubstep) and I'll certainly be giving it a shot at only 63K pre-orders with only 2 weeks to go I can't say I'm confident that it'll be a big success. On top of that Forza 4 needs to outsell GT5 by alot in order to catch it this holiday, considering that it's current bundle hasn't been a huge help and with no new versions coming out I just don't think it has the legs.

Good game though, If it were multiplatform I'd have both it and GT5.
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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 15/10/2012, 07:14
so basically when GT5 launched it out sold forza 3 in 2010 and 2011, well to be honest this works both ways but is not a fair way to measure a games success is it, the only fair way is to compare them side by side comparing how many copies were sold at launch and each month there after.

now can we please drop the flame baiting or whatever you want to call it and actually talk about the game.
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thehusbo posted 15/10/2012, 06:43
lol now its turned into forza 4 and forza horizon will both individually outsell gt5 to the forza franchise will outsell gt5 in 2012. you do make me laugh mld.
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sales2099 posted 15/10/2012, 06:08
Just comparing franchises and what they bring in on a given year, regardless of when the latest titles released. Take it up with PD if they are slower devs.

2011 Forza IP brought in more sales then GT did. fact. 2012 GT5 and Forza 4 have a bundle, but Forza Horizon is releasing as well. 2012 looks like another year where the Forza IP brought in more sales then GT did.


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r3tr0gam3r1337 posted 13/10/2012, 05:44
im sorry but who compares a release year to a non release year game, its like saying forza 4 out sold forza 3 when forza 4 came out, dont you think thats just a bit of a stupidly dumb comparison.

if you are going to compare sales figures compare them year on year not year after release.
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pezus posted 13/10/2012, 12:56
@Chris: http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html. Also I said "3-4 times as much as any forza game *on its own*" and by that I meant without hard holiday bundles.
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Chris Hu posted 12/10/2012, 03:42
@pezus What are you talking about Forza 3 has already outsold Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. 5.10>4.10 million and the gap will only widen since Prologue is out of print and Forza 3 is still available new especially the Ultimate Edition which I picked up last month. Also the only GT game that came close to selling 3 times more then Forza 3 is GT3 and that game was heavily bundled especially in the US where it is just as easy to find a used bundled copy (clearly identifiable also since it has no bar code and says not for resale on the cover) as it is a non bundled copy.
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pezus posted 11/10/2012, 06:08
Did you hear about that *demo* for GT5 that outsold each and every full Forza game?
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pezus posted 11/10/2012, 06:07
A dinosaur franchise that sells 3-4 times as much as any Forza game on its own. You crack me up even more here than usual, sales.
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pezus posted 11/10/2012, 06:05
Lol, Forza 4 will not outsell GT5 this year. Neither will Horizon.
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thehusbo posted 11/10/2012, 02:22
lol your just banking on the typical forza bundle to be sure it can outsell a 2 year old game ye ok. 858,000 v 537,000 so far for the year. forza horizon will not outsell gt5 either. it has hardly any preorders and is a spin off. looks like the almighty god of forza cant come close to the 'dinosaur franchise' can it? theres always next year, and the next year, and the next year for you to get your hopes up.
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Genera1MLD posted 11/10/2012, 10:35
i think you need help pal, medical or phyciatric cause clearly your head is not screwed on properly, the only people who actually believe what you say are the morons who are brain damaged just like you.
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sales2099 posted 09/10/2012, 02:12
http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/ Look at #42 vs #43. lol. "Bububu GT 5 released in 2010 so thats not fair!!!" Hey if GT was this divine God like you claim, then it should have no problem outselling Forza in any year right??? lol 2011 was a Forza year and 2012 looks like it as well. GT is a dinosaur franchise.
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sales2099 posted 09/10/2012, 02:08
lol someone needs to learn to use this site. In 2011, Forza 4 outsold GT5 sales in 2011. 2012 Forza 4 will outsell GT5 2012 sales with the fall bundle. Forza Horizon has a good chance to outsell GT5 2012 sales on its own. So for the last 2 years now GT is the bitch franchise. The beauty about GT is that the time in between its games allows the competition to grow and crush it.
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Genera1MLD posted 03/10/2012, 07:07
lol some one needs to go back to school and learn maths
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sales2099 posted 28/09/2012, 09:13
Forza 4 more then GT5 in 2011. Forza 4 will easily outsell GT5 in 2012 with the fall bundle. Forza Horizon will outsell GT5 2012 sales. Is that fair to say? Nope, but who said this industry was fair lol.
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binary solo posted 21/08/2012, 07:45
It seems the whole of North America doesn't really dig sim racers this gen. FM and GT are both lagging in that territory. Thank the gods for Europe in both cases.
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Nsanity posted 09/08/2012, 09:40
Genera1MLD sure likes to insult people.
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CGI-Quality posted 02/08/2012, 05:57
@ fauzman: Nah, I'd say this is what a Forza game would normally sell (if it isn't a pack-in, holiday title like 2 & 3 were). Should settle at around 3 million without much bundling.

A success in my eyes.
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fauzman posted 27/07/2012, 10:20
The sales for this seem pretty slow. Doesnt seem like it will beat Forza 3. Maybe they need to increase dev. time?
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Genera1MLD posted 24/07/2012, 10:45
@ganoncrotch lol sorry that you take this so seriously dont you find it just a tad embarrassing that you lot constantly defend a very slow selling racing game that will no doubt be very dependant on heavy bundling just to boost its sales numbers.

just 3 months to go to mark its 1 year anniversary only it's only sold to date 80k this year as apparently it sold 2m before the start of 2012 ouch, if its that good why aint no one buying it !.
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Ganoncrotch posted 11/07/2012, 08:42
@genera1mld
"lol better review scores doesn't make a better game"
Can't really argue with anything else you said after reading this, you do appear to be a bit teary at mr puggsly tho, should probably not keep making a show of yourself tis a tad embarrassing.
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Mr Puggsly posted 07/07/2012, 03:57
Ouch, you truly are an insult master.

I won't bother fighting back. I don't want you to attack me with more hack jokes.
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Genera1MLD posted 06/07/2012, 06:54
sorry mr puggsly is that a picture of you girlfriend lol lol lol lol lol lol , im not wound up at all unlike you who obviously is very wound up otherwise you wouldn't be making accusations as much as you do, you have the trait of a kinder garden kid who's just had there rattle stolen.
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Chrizum posted 05/07/2012, 03:22
Hah. This place is just like the playground of my primary school. I enjoyed it there as well so keep it up!
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Mr Puggsly posted 04/07/2012, 03:02
Haha! Wow, you're still wound up. You can calm down now, buddy.

You're free to "lol" all you want. And I'm free to point out you have a trait of a school girl.
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Genera1MLD posted 03/07/2012, 04:29
still arguing lol really dont you have anything better to do, i assure you you are butt hurt and crying lmfao.
well fuck a doodle doo i lol too much 'lol' so fucking what and your point!
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Mr Puggsly posted 01/07/2012, 01:02
I assure you, no one is as wound up as you. You also "lol" too much. I feel like I'm talking to a Japanese school girl.

Horizon looks interesting thus far, but I'm waiting for the reviews before I get excited.
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Genera1MLD posted 30/06/2012, 12:30
lol deep down all 360 fans are so easily wound up, if forza horizons is anything like the first TDU i might be tempted however if its like TDU2 i wont touch it with a barge pole as for forza 4 that's on my shelf collecting dust as the career mode is so boring, its the first game ive played that actually makes me fall asleep playing it lol.
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Mr Puggsly posted 29/06/2012, 02:22
Awww... you're so precious when you get upset. Joy Ride outsold Modnation Racers before there were bundles. Joy Ride is still selling better than Modnation Racers.

I said Forza 4 not performing is probably because its not a huge upgrade. You however said its not performing better because Forza 3 had an Ultimate Edition. Hence, not the same argument.

You think three Forza games is the same as a full Gran Turismo and two betas? And you call me the ignorant fuck? Boy, you're something special. Prologue was heavy bundling, just for the record.

Well you have terrible reading comprehension. I didn't say anyone is a douche for buying GT5P. I said you're a douche for saying people who buy Forza DLC are idiots. Yet you ignore people actually bought a beta of GT5. If you don't mind people buying a beta, then why do you care if people buy DLC?

I thought you said you bought Forza 3 Ultimate Edition. That lead me to believe you may own a 360.

Anyhow, you're clearly angry. Go relax buddy.
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Genera1MLD posted 28/06/2012, 11:44
lol im done arguing with a retard that uses one of the most heavily bundled game's with kinect, the very same game that at E3 09 was supposed to be a free arcade game lol and now is available to non kinect equipped 360's, have fun arguing with your retarded excuses.

hang on now your saying forza 4 isnt selling that well cause of forza 3, you fucking retard thats what ive been saying all along you just reword it to make it look like you know what your talking about plus forza horizon is an arcade racer (lol much like all the forza games).

there has only been 1 gran turismo on ps3 lol you ignorant fuck, there have been 3 gran turismo games on ps3 'GTHD, GT5P and GT5' you can call GT5P a glorified demo as much as you like but fact is it sold at retail and for over 4 million demos to be sold is pretty remarkable.

and lastly you just cant accept facts can you, you say im a douch for buying GT5P yet i must also be a douch for buying a 360 (actually 4 as the first 3 got the RROD) forza 2,3 and 4 lol.

everything you say is just exaggerated and aggravated fanboy bullshit, you do realise i actually own a 360 dont you so all your point's about modnation ect are completly pointless.
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Mr Puggsly posted 27/06/2012, 03:44
I'm not going to argue which argument was worse. They're both stupid arguments that can't be proven.

You're an idiot. These are not shit sales. Most IPs would love these numbers and its good enough to justify more Forza games. Also, this game isn't even done selling. It hasn't even been on the market for a year and has room for price cuts.

Forza is a failure because Mario sold 30 million? Oh god, you're such a retard. Here's a better question. If Mario Kart sold so well, why didn't Modnation Racers do better? Even Joy Ride sold better.

No, I just don't agree with you. Bear this in mind, there has only been one Mario Kart on Wii. There has only been one Gran Turismo on PS3. The 360 however is getting its fourth Forza. Forza 4 wasn't exactly a huge upgrade over 3 and Forza Horizon was announced about 6 months after its release. Those are more valid arguments on why Forza 4 isn't performing better than anything you've said.

Furthermore, excluding the bundling I presume Forza 3 sold about 3 million. When this game stops selling it will probably be near or at the 3 million mark as well. I can't be the only person waiting for some price cuts or an Ultimate Edition.

You're gonna call out MS for releasing an incomplete game? GT5 Prologue ring a bell? I wouldn't pay $40 for a beta. But I don't feel the need to say people who bought it are idiots. Hence, you're a douche.
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Genera1MLD posted 26/06/2012, 10:59
lol you say my argument is weak yet your argument is worse, fact pal forza 4 is not selling, there are over 90 million Wii owners and mario kart Wii sold over 30 million so that's one third of all the Wii's owned bought a copy of mario kart, now if the 360 has sold around 67 million surely as it's according to you a successful racing game why then does it have such shite sales.

all you ever do is 'shut it' why ill tell you why its cause you are an obnoxious moronic fanboy, you need to get out more, you obviously know that the ultimate edition of forza 3 is the main reason why forza 4 is not selling that's why you keep insisting its a weak argument simply cause you have no evidence on the table to prove why forza 4 is not selling .

lastly if im a douch for supposedly worrying about how people spend their money (i dont give a shit how you spend your money) but if you want to waste your money on content that should have been in the game from the start (lol DLC less than a few days after it came out 'face palm') then you sir are an idiot and its morons like you that are feeding companies like Microsoft with ideas on how to release incomplete games and then charge for content that should have been in the game from the start but was deliberately taken out just cause they know gullible morons like you will pay for it later on.
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Mr Puggsly posted 25/06/2012, 06:05
Sorry, but I don't think people who buy the DLC are idiots. You're a douche and need to quit worrying about how people choose to spend their money. If you want to wait for the Ultimate Edition, good for you.

I know the "knock off effect" argument is weak. And so was your argument about the Ultimate Edition of Forza 3 hurting the sales of Forza 4. Hence, weak argument vs weak argument.

I don't understand your argument about monthly sales and XBL subscribers. Another weak argument?

I keep telling you to shut it because you're obnoxious and have not made any good points. Go play in the street or get a life.

Why does it matter some of the Halo games are multiplat? Is that a bad thing? People actually wish more Halo games were multiplat.
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Genera1MLD posted 24/06/2012, 12:33
lol enjoy paying for all that rip off DLC for forza 4, i may have payed for the collectors edition plus the season pass however im not going to pay for the rest like an idot ill wait for the ultimate collection like i did with forza 3, also carry on with you weak argument if forza has really had a knock on effect to GT5 ect why have sales of forza 4 slowed to a crawl, hell it cant even shift more than 36k a month when there are apparently over 30+ million XBL subscribers out there.

why do you keep telling me to shut it lol when you have no evidence to back up your claims that forza and the 360 might be responsible for GT5's sales, lol it's not as heavily bundled as forza 4 and forza 3 oh and halo is a multiplat lmfao.
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Mr Puggsly posted 24/06/2012, 02:00
What excuse? An "ultimate" or "GOTY" versions of games are released regularly nowadays. Sony is guilty of this practice as well. Once again, you can't prove that had any real impact on Forza 4. So shut it.

Who cares if GT5 won't be the biggest selling game in the series? You should. If you're gonna mock Forza 4 for not selling as well as 3, then you should do the same with GT5. Forza and the 360 may be responsible for that.

GT3 is the most heavily bundled game in the series. Its pretty obvious based on how much it "sold" in North America.

It doesn't matter if GT is more successful. Forza is still very successful. Just like Killzone is a success even though Halo is much more successful.

Lets just be glad Forza is doing better than Motorstorm and Modnation Racers combined. Its not the best selling racer, but it hasn't been lost in obscurity like those games.
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Genera1MLD posted 23/06/2012, 04:13
@ Mr Puggsly lol make what ever excuse you like but when turn 10 released forza 3 the ultimate collection a shit load of forza fans were seriously pissed off that they had payed for DLC all year costing at least 5000 MSP (more than the initial cost of the game) only to see a new version that included all the DLC that they had plus some they didnt cost just 29.99 and made a shit load of complaints about it before turn 10 released the DLC for them.

lol no proof just look at sales pal, there have been bundles available all year and even the Porsche pack hasn't gathered interest, so what if GT5 isnt going to be the biggest selling version in that series i seriously doubt forza 4 will even surpass forza 3's sales record oh and just for the record GT3 A-Spec is the biggest selling GT game so far, even if you added all the forza games so far they still cant match the sales of 1 GT game lol.
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Mr Puggsly posted 23/06/2012, 02:55
@ Genera1MLD - I don't think GT5 is going to be the best selling game in the series either, so shut it. A lot of games get an "ultimate" or "GOTY" version. You have no proof that hurt Forza more than any other series.
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Genera1MLD posted 23/06/2012, 12:56
Lol don't you mean the most expensive racing game this gen speaks for its self well not really.
add all the DLC packs including the VIP and season pass and it comes to 6320 MSP as of 23/06/2012, lol more like a cash cow, surprisingly still expensive in'nt a word id use to describe it more like a total rip off lol no wonder its selling so slowly, after forza 3's ultimate edition most people are just going to wait for the forza 4 ultimate edition rather than make the same mistake again, when turn 10 released the forza 3 ultimate edition how many fans did they piss off !
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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 posted 21/06/2012, 12:13
The best rated racing game this gen..

Speaks for itself...
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Mr Puggsly posted 21/06/2012, 05:04
This game is surprisingly still expensive. At retail its $60, online its about $40.

I don't know why you people keep talking about Gran Turismo. Froza sells great and I'm sure they spend a fraction of the money developing these games.
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Chris Hu posted 18/06/2012, 07:37
Better sales don't make better games either if that where true then Mario Kart Wii would be the best racing game of all time by mile. At this point GT5 sells better because its cheaper then Forza 4. Also a lot of people still play Forza 3 and Forza 2. I doubt anyone still plays Gran Turismo 5 Prologue since its nothing more then a glorified demo.
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Genera1MLD posted 15/06/2012, 05:13
@sales2099 lol better review scores doesn't make a better game, keep dreaming about forza 4 outselling GT5 cause people have lost interest in forza 4, forza horizons will no doubt score over 90% even though its blatantly a TDU/NFS ripoff.

time to face fact's, forza 4 has only sold roughly 220k in the past 5 months, gt5 has sold roughly 400k in the same time ? how is forza 4 outselling GT5 exactly.

now that's dealt with anyone looking forward to project cars.
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pezus posted 12/06/2012, 07:39
@criss: I think that bet would be an automatic loss for you . GT5 is insanely popular online, it has lots of stuff to spur interest in the online, plus the install base for it is almost 4 times as big as Forza 4's.

Even then, having more Forza 4 online players wouldn't be that great of a feat for a 2011 game vs. a 2010 one.

@sales, why don't you account for the other GT games (GT4, GTPSP, GT5: Prologue) who are still selling very well each year? Also, more interest because it sold more during its launch year than GT5 did in its second year? You must see how ridiculous this sounds. Oh and a bundle will magically lift Forza beyond GT...what about the inevitable GT5 bundle this holiday season?

GT5 will be 2 years old. Prime time for bundling for Sony.
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thehusbo posted 05/06/2012, 07:33
@sales2099 since the start of 2011 up until this point, gt5 has outsold forza 4, despite being about a year older. So how could u argue that there is more interest in forza than gran turismo?
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T.Rexington posted 04/06/2012, 06:57
Rented this from the library and had a really good time with it. I'll tell you this, when I explored the autovista, I was blown away with the presentation. It was great to have all that extra Top Gear commentary and I got to download some really cool skins. Think I'll be adding this to my collection and I'll be looking forward to Horizons open world gameplay.
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sales2099 posted 04/06/2012, 06:52
And well really, Forza 4 outsold GT5 in 2011. And in 2012 Forza 4 will overtake GT5 2012 sales with that racing wheel bundle thats hitting soon. So you could argue that in the past 2 recent years there is more interest in Forza then GT. Hell Forza 2/3/4 sales are greater then GT5. Is that fair? No....but who said this industry was fair LOL. Just saying thats the price you pay when you only release one game per gen. The other guy (Forza) releases more often with more quality and your overtaken/ganged up on. Seems GT is the fad.
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sales2099 posted 04/06/2012, 06:45
IEATBABIES im going to make this as simple as I can for you. GT/Sony = Has Been. The quality dip and LONG dev cycles prove that. It doesnt matter if the fanbase is still in denial, Forza is now king at least in terms of quality, and not keeping its fanbase waiting with broken promises and delays.
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crissindahouse posted 01/06/2012, 03:36
ohh man...sony is advertising gran turismo like hell even nowadays. you can still see gran turismo advertisement as example here in german racings. you know what this alone costs? no wonder the game is selling good, paying hundreds of millions for advertisement and selling nothing would be a little disappointing wouldn't it? in the same time you got gt 5 you got 2-3 forzas but development costs shouldn't be much higher because yeah, both developers are working every day. so you have to put minimum forza 3 and 4 together to get an idea about the revenue at the same time and the net income they made for sony/microsoft. and just because people buy one game more than the other doesn't mean it is better. if best selling games would be the best in reality, lol. cod is saying hi! and hardly anyone is playing it? i would bet more people play forza 4 than gt 5 atm against others online.

at the end it is great to own both like me to know that both have advantages and disadvantages. something a gy like you will never see because he will never be open for something new and always just like "only what i own can be good". sad guy...
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IEATBABIES posted 31/05/2012, 04:43
sales2099: I'm going to make this as simple as possible for you, kid. Gran Turismo 5 has sold about 7.60 million copies, while Forza 4 hasn't even hit 3 million. I thought Forza was the greatest racing sim ever? Where is it now? Hardly everyone is playing it, yet fanboys claimed it was the greatest thing since Jesus Christ.

Gran Turismo = Lifestyle
Forza = Fad

That should be a good enough explanation for you. While Gran Turismo holds REAL competitions and races, Forza fanboys can only dream of such a thing.

Polyphony is enjoying their money of 64.62 million sold of the GT franchise. Polyphony says "hi". Turn 10 can only dream of such a feat.
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Kizmi posted 30/05/2012, 06:20
Microsoft announced console bundle with this game and the "air wheel" controller
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Sales History

Total Sales
0.06m
Japan
2.08m
NA
1.98m
Europe
0.49m
Others
4.60m
Total
1 22,452 200,080 229,184 64,143 515,859
2 3,289 68,242 135,216 30,402 237,149
3 1,231 34,042 61,074 19,750 116,097
4 805 26,640 44,839 14,744 87,028
5 589 17,598 38,458 11,871 68,516
6 504 13,553 34,287 10,316 58,660
7 443 24,549 38,902 13,082 76,976
8 395 25,685 54,870 17,096 98,046
9 501 30,764 80,179 23,932 135,376
10 733 42,179 88,564 27,572 159,048

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darkenergy posted 28/11/2017, 11:48
Forza Horizon 3 will likely pass lifetime sales of Forza Motorsport 4 in Europe by the end 2017, if not then before Forza Horizon 4 releases.
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Chris Hu posted 26/03/2014, 08:58
Got all the achievement for this game now the Porsche DLC ones where super easy to unlock.
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sales2099 posted 30/07/2013, 08:39
4 million :)
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sales2099 posted 09/01/2013, 02:34
The point was not to seperate the two just because one sold more then the other before bundles. Forza 4 sold 2.5 b4 bundles and thats amazing.
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sub-zero-TM posted 09/01/2013, 01:39
@ lol first of all nobody asked you anything and why are you so bitter about what i said? uc3's massive bundling has only started recently and the game was already at 5m or above before the bundling the uc franchise is undertracked a lot here, so my point was that the uncharted games sold a lot before the heavy bundling started but i'm happy how they pushed the sales a lot this holiday so yeah

Thank god for bundles!!!
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