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フォルツァモータースポーツ 3

Developer

Turn 10 Studios

Genre

Racing

Release Dates

10/27/09 Microsoft Game Studios
10/22/09 Microsoft Game Studios
10/23/09 Microsoft Game Studios

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Forza Motorsport 3 (X360)

Forza Motorsport 3 (X360) > Opinions (326)

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	sales2099 posted 06/01/2014, 08:05 lol the insecurity with RockyB runs deep. My post below yours already proved you wrong in January 2013 :) Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 02/01/2014, 04:32 only kinect adventures beats forza bundling Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:35 Correction, it sold 4,373,649 at the end of 2010. So a cool million on its own steam again, again with Forza 4 out since late 2011. All in all, only about 2 million of this games sales is bundles. Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:31 Since its bundling stopped, it sold about 500k, even with Forza 4 out. Impressive. Message \| Report
	JustThatGamer posted 27/09/2012, 02:57 Uncharted 3 is bundled a lot more than this game, I love the hypocrites who praise UC3's sales but disregard Forza 3's success when really both games gained between 30-40% of their sales due to mass bundling. UC2 was mass bundled too, it would only have achieved 70-80% of it's current sales if it weren't for bundling. At the end of the day both Forza and Uncharted rely heavily on bundles, without them Uncharted would only be marginally bigger. The only 1st party exclusives this gen (HD consoles) to have sold over 5 million without the need for mass bundling are: GT5, GoW3, GeoW 1,2,3 and Halo 3,ODST, Reach, they're the games that deserve to be praised. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 19/01/2012, 10:37 wow 5 million. Great sales regardless of how many bundles it may or may not have had. Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 16/01/2012, 01:12 forza games are bundled like hell Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 11/01/2012, 01:40 @michael, NO. more like 3-3.5 million Message \| Report
	Seece posted 19/11/2011, 01:47 Gratz Forza 3 Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 17/11/2011, 01:07 osama, it's more like 4 million. Forza 3 was at 4 million before it was bundled for the second holiday season, and I bet it sold some on it's own too. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 13/11/2011, 06:49 5 mill next week! Message \| Report
	Chris Hu posted 10/11/2011, 01:22 3 million on its own sounds about right. I thought it was bundled about 1.5 million times but it could be closer to the 2 million or a little more. Forza 2 was bundled just as much and only had one bundle compared to three different ones. Also this should surpass 5 million copies by the end of the year. I know I will buy a new copy before I buy Forza 4. Still busy with Forza 2 at the moment almost at driver level 44. So I will put in at least another 10-20 hours before I have done all that I wanted with the game. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 09/11/2011, 04:44 yes, almost 3 million will be its lifetime sales on its own which, most games could only dream of having Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 07/11/2011, 04:57 3 million on its own* Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 07/11/2011, 04:57 The launch bundle hardly counts given those bundles are more expensive than buying the console a lone. I was unaware of the March 2010 bundling. Either way, I believe it did 3 million on its which is a respectable number. Message \| Report
	Carl posted 05/11/2011, 01:47 Forza 3 bundles? It was bundled on launch. It was bundled mid-Year with ODST, Week 24 shows the boost. It had about 1.5 Million units bundles in the 2010 Holidays. Forza 3 probably has been bundled close to 2 Million times... Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 01/11/2011, 09:00 @ leatherhat - There were a few different 2010 holiday bundles. If there was some other bundling it wasn't in mass numbers. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 28/10/2011, 06:57 6 million by the end of the year with the Forza 3 bundle....I guess MS really wants this to sell at least close to GT5. Message \| Report
	leatherhat posted 25/10/2011, 03:27 Mr. Puggsly, Forza 3 was bundled twice Message \| Report
	enditall727 posted 18/10/2011, 08:13 WOAH! sorry for the errors in my last comment =P Message \| Report
	enditall727 posted 18/10/2011, 08:12 looking at the 1st week Amercan numbers for Forza 4 i dont think it will hit wont hit 6 mill ltd. maybe its just too many Forza games for 1 generation Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 18/10/2011, 06:44 @ ProdigyBam - You see that boost from week 54 - 72. That was the bundle period and it accounts for about 1.7 million sales. Hence, this game sold over 3 million units on its own. Its one of the best selling triple A exclusive this gen. Message \| Report
	ProdigyBam posted 17/10/2011, 02:50 LOL "even without bundles"? you kidding me? just type" forza 3 bundles" in google images and youll see how many copies of forza 3 were bundled with a 360. im pretty sure that it is the most bundled game on the 360 after forza 2 Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 15/10/2011, 02:56 This game did awesome even without bundles. Message \| Report
	smroadkill15 posted 14/10/2011, 06:30 Will definitely hit 5 million, especially if it's bundled like I heard. Forza 2 hit 4 Million, Forza 3 (eventually) hit 5 million, now Forza 4's target is 6 million. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 24/09/2011, 08:34 Almost 5 million! You can do it F3! Message \| Report
	yahoocom1984 posted 19/09/2011, 03:35 FPS is always big on PC, fact: Half life seires, counter-strike, Quake series, DOOM and DOD........ect Message \| Report
	yahoocom1984 posted 19/09/2011, 03:35 FPS is always big on PC, fact: Half life seires, counter-strike, Quake series, DOOM and DOD........ect Message \| Report
	yahoocom1984 posted 19/09/2011, 03:35 FPS is always big on PC, fact: Half life seires, counter-strike, Quake series, DOOM and DOD........ect Message \| Report
	Zoniako posted 12/09/2011, 06:56 forza Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 10/08/2011, 05:24 Thats true about GT5, but Forza 4 looks to improve upon it as well. Seems the demise of GT is ultimately the time between releases where as Turn 10 actually makes the most of their time. Bundles or not, Forza is a AAA franchise where as GT is now a AA franchise, and on top of that Forza games just release faster. The fans still like their nostalgia but at least objective gamers know the truth :) Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 08/08/2011, 06:56 lol GT a strong sim.....cause in GT5 you drive in rural communities and obey the traffic signs right? :P. We had this discussion before but its obvious the series if purely running off of nostalgia since it takes longer to come out and lacks features in Forza that go beyond a sim........a FUN VIDEOGAME. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 12/07/2011, 05:05 my maths are terrible, its about 1.5 million from bundles not 2. Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 07/07/2011, 05:03 Too many cry babies. "waah waaah teh bundlez". Lol get over it. A sale s a sale. MS put this game into more gamers hands whether they wanted it or not. They were doing them a favour as this game is one of the best exclusives the 360 has to offer. And it increases brand awareness no mater how you slice it so the opening Forza 4 sales will surpass Forza 3 opening sales and so on. Gimme a break you babies. Message \| Report
	slipknotfan posted 26/06/2011, 02:26 I liked part 2 better! Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 25/06/2011, 03:41 seems close to 2 million from bundles, still not bundled as much as FM2 but still a ton none the less Message \| Report
	Carl posted 02/06/2011, 12:02 Wrong, Seece. It had the ODST bundle in early 2010, you can see it get the boost around Week 24. Message \| Report
	Vekta posted 13/05/2011, 06:14 wow didnt even know forza did these type of numbers, this is pretty good. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 11/05/2011, 10:42 You can see where it started being bundled. 3.1 mill. Without bundles it'd probably be at 3.6-3.8 Mill and 4 mill lifetime, pretty amazing for Forza. Message \| Report
	RealRacer posted 08/04/2011, 09:13 Cat&Mouse destroyed theeRealism in Forza3,won't buying Forza4. Message \| Report
	Calmador posted 14/03/2011, 03:45 Super Mario RPG Message \| Report
	Calmador posted 12/03/2011, 11:27 I didn't expect it to practically reach 5 million... Th bundles helped but it would be crazy to excuse most of the 5 million sales on bundles. When microsoft takes swings, the punches hit hard. Message \| Report
	Chris Hu posted 11/03/2011, 02:46 @Rockyb and anyone else that says so this is not one of the most bundled games. Forza 2 was bundled a whole lot more just compare the sales curves of the two games. In Forza 2's sales curve the bundle spike is so obvious that even a blind man can see it. Message \| Report
	AWESOM-O posted 28/02/2011, 10:21 keep increasing your gamers base.... even if its in bundles Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 24/02/2011, 12:18 one of the most bundled games Message \| Report
	Skeeuk posted 18/02/2011, 09:37 the thing that bugs me about forza 3, is the season play mode is a ripp off pgr4 and the arcade mode is sterile to say the least. on top you have paint shop and a standard lobby system with store front. apart from that theres nothing else in the game. its a completly light game. 2 seasons in i dont play anymore Message \| Report
	edjevink posted 17/02/2011, 09:42 oops, sorry. I thought this was the Search Bar Message \| Report
	edjevink posted 17/02/2011, 09:41 gran turismo 5 Message \| Report
	Onibaka posted 17/02/2011, 07:13 if* Message \| Report
	Onibaka posted 17/02/2011, 07:13 @account Critical acclaim is so important, Sony would be 1#, and Ratchet would be outselling Mario. Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 12/02/2011, 11:45 Actually I take that back, bundles account for at most 1 million sales. It was overtaking EMEAA in sales just before the bundle and is selling better in Americas despite the bundle being sold out a while ago. Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 12/02/2011, 11:43 It's looking like Forza 3 could break 5 million sales. Be it with about 1-1.3 million bundled, but still. 5 million is nothin to joke about, Forza Motorsport 4 might just be big enough to make Forza Motorsport 4 the biggest racing franchise in the americas region. Brand is growing Great Sim. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 12/02/2011, 09:06 whiners of the bundle are really being silly. Its a AAA game (which is more then can be said for the AA reviewed GT5) and the more houses it gets into the better. Slowly but surely the brand recognition is growing with every forza game. As a franchise it allready beat GT in frequency of release and in quality critical acclaim, now its just a matter of taking away the loyal fans Message \| Report
	yesloow posted 09/02/2011, 06:54 sales could have stopped at 3 million, they r going for 5 million because of a fabulous game Message \| Report
	stopstopp posted 06/02/2011, 01:08 Example of the power of bundling, look how just a few weeks sales of bundling makes 1.5 million sales. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 04/02/2011, 05:38 @donut.........ya lets go by the reviews of fans who have no experience in reviewing games from all angles and who have even more bias then the ones reviews who MATTER. GT5 lost, deal. and @thelastsoldier..........your comment alone proves the decline of GT as a franchise. Back in the glory days it should have done it in a couple weeks, not 6 LOL. Message \| Report
	dsage01 posted 30/01/2011, 04:47 wow i would love to see forza 3 sales without that many bundles Message \| Report
	thelastsoldier posted 29/01/2011, 03:29 GT5 beat this in 6 weeks LOL Message \| Report
	Donutsticks posted 23/01/2011, 08:55 @pirategta I think i would rather go by the user scores than the critic scores. because that score is from people that actually like this type of game rather than critics who are payed to play this game. I guess its just going to be cookies and cream or apples and oranges depending on how you wanna look at stuff. Message \| Report
	Pirateogta posted 22/01/2011, 03:03 It* Message \| Report
	Pirateogta posted 22/01/2011, 03:03 @Donutsticks So GT5 outselling Forza 3 makes it the better game even though it has a score of 8 points less on Metacritic? So does that mean that Halo: Reach and Black Ops are better than Uncharted 2 because they outsold it by millions, despite the fact that they both average lower scores? Halo, Call of Duty, and Gran Turismo are going to sell on name alone. IT doesn't make them "more desirable to the gaming community" as you so put it. Once you buy the game, your sale is locked in. You may hate the game, but there's no way to take back that sale. Message \| Report
	jpain333 posted 04/01/2011, 06:31 lets not argue...they both great games too bad fanboys are too blind to admit that.. Message \| Report
	Chris Hu posted 04/01/2011, 02:55 I agree with zgamer that the Forza3/Alan Wake bundle was/is really great probably the best 360 bundle ever, to bad that I bought my 360s in October when their where no holiday bundles. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 03/01/2011, 02:03 lol seems we still got hippie tree hugger gamers like donut who think scores dont count when it doesnt matter to them lol. You feel GT5 is the best, good 4 you. But clearly the scores say its lacking and ive seen many people who have expressed disapointment in it. Deal.....on paper GT5 is the loser franchise. 2 forzas come out in less time and each gets over 90+. But hey, it shouldnt matter that GT is the loser franchise......what matters is that YOU think its best :P Message \| Report
	zgamer5 posted 01/01/2011, 06:22 beat forza 2, can it reach 5 million? and damn what a great holiday bundle/ Message \| Report
	Donutsticks posted 01/01/2011, 12:30 @account I See you still have your apparent "need" to feel Forza is better than GT5 craze going on. Dude when will you ever learn. It doesn't matter which game was scored higher by the critics. It matters which game is more desirable to the gaming community and as it stands gt5 has an outstanding chance of breaking 6 million games sold in just 10 weeks!! So now you know how to judge which game "won" and which game Lost. Which game is better is totally up to the opinion of the gamer and as you should know by now opinions are pretty worthless. Message \| Report
	4k1x3r posted 31/12/2010, 06:35 Yea yea Michael, yea yea... Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 31/12/2010, 09:04 Forza Motorsport 3 is better, sorry guys. Almost every online video game website agrees, and if either of you guys ever played both, you would see it. GT5 is a slightly better simulator in the sence that the weight distribution of the car really affects breaking and cornering, but only 200 of the cars have in car views, and GT5 also has less tracks, and even with repeating races to earn money GT5 is still a shorter game. There are pros and cons to both games, and any car nut should get both games, as they satisfy different car nut perspectives. Both games are still phenomenal, and in reality the only real difference between them is the frequency of release. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 31/12/2010, 04:42 Forza was at 3.1 mill before it got its holiday bundle. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 28/12/2010, 09:12 You think that PD has only been working on gt5 for the past 6 years. Maybe you've heard of tourist trophy, gt hd concept, gt5 prologue and gtpsp. How many of those years were actually spent making gt5? 2? 3? Get your facts straight. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 28/12/2010, 05:31 just saing pal...we both have opinions. they cancel eachother out. but I have the gaming review industry backing me up. People who have pointed out many flaws in GT5 that shouldnt be there given the 5.5 years time. Ya i get it, your a non conformist and listen to yourself. ok. But as gamers comaparing games in the same genre, the scores tend to be a good indicator of overall quality. Gt5 lost, forza 3 won. deal. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 28/12/2010, 04:34 I don't have acceptance issues, I've accepted that GT5 is the better game, but because I just don't bow down and believe anything you say makes me have issues? It must be hard living in a world where if people don't share your opinion then they must have something seriously wrong with them. Or maybe you have the problem. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 28/12/2010, 08:19 @mordred.....lol ya but they also say GT5 is a seriously lacking video game. u know....the reason why we buy consoles. Sims dont mean much when the VIDEO GAME part is lacking. Thats where forza wins......its a great sim AND a great video game. And turismo....funny ppl usually say the dont care about sales and its all about the quality (reviews). but u got serious acceptance issues. Quality wise, GT 5 clearly lost to Forza, both in overal quality and frequency of release. As for sales, I am very inpressed to see forza sales so great compared to forza sales last gen. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 28/12/2010, 12:21 Doing great. While its a bundle game, it only comes with the Elite consoles. Clearly people are willing to spend more to get the bundled games. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 27/12/2010, 09:53 I meant 84 not 90+ in my last post Message \| Report
	Mordred11 posted 27/12/2010, 09:40 @aacount2099.What are you talking about?The reviewers actually say that GT5 IS the best racing-sim out there ;) ;) Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 27/12/2010, 09:38 It's not my problem people like you hype games because I don't care what stupid review sites score games. This game totally did not flop and is still the king. Just because some site that you see to hold in high regard gave it 90+ means nothing to the millions of fans that know the truth. GT5 is here and better than ever. And if you don't care about sales, why are you even on this site for? Or are you in denile? Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 27/12/2010, 05:17 it was hyped to be AAA (90+). Its 84 on metacritic. Thats a flop when a game fails to meet said hype. deal. Forza won. I understand though, when your franchise was king since the PS1 days its hard to accept change. At least u gotz the sales :P Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 26/12/2010, 03:14 You're saying gt5 flopped because of a metacritic score? Did you even play the game or do you like other people to make decisions for you? Message \| Report
	rddflag posted 26/12/2010, 10:15 So a bundled game has Xbox dudes jumping up and down over GT5's supposed grave? GT5 is a system seller, and it was obviously put on shelves with some dusting required. Post release updates have made it at least a 90 if it were to reviewed today. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 26/12/2010, 08:00 well Mr turismo........there is a sales comparison. compare forza and gt sales last gen to this gen and youll see exactly that there is one. But in the end, sales only dictates commercial success. Critically, where it counts with us gamers, Forza took the sim crown with how GT5 flopped (84 on meatcritic). Forza 4 wont need to touch GT5 in sales......itll just need to score better then a 84 on metacritic LOL Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 25/12/2010, 11:56 there is no sales comparison in one year gt5 will have over 10 million sold. Outside of bundles I doubt this did even 2 million. Forza 4 wont even touch gt5 either. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 25/12/2010, 09:57 well its good to see this game bundled to raise brand awareness. Its a AAA (90+) rated game so its great to see it be in more gamers hands. I mean its the new king of sim racing (92 beats 84) since GT5 was a great sim but a incredibly lacking video game. Overall forza has GT beat in ratings and has been holding on this long in sales, which is a victory in itself compared to GT/forza sales last gen. Message \| Report
	mark24 posted 25/12/2010, 04:49 gran turismo Message \| Report
	Bagaren85 posted 25/12/2010, 12:51 Great sales! Forza 3 goes speed.. Will buy it soon Message \| Report
	--OkeyDokey-- posted 25/12/2010, 12:03 And toastboy, first month sales in America disagree. Message \| Report
	--OkeyDokey-- posted 24/12/2010, 11:59 Nobody's a hater. Ignorant people need to be informed that this game comes free with a console that has sold multi-million units in the last couple weeks. Message \| Report
	elvacano80 posted 24/12/2010, 03:54 all you hates are a fucking disgrace to gaming. Go Forza go! Message \| Report
	Kinneas14 posted 24/12/2010, 11:04 C'mon, bundled or not bundled doesn't matter. It is an awesome racing , it's obvious that is going to sell good. Message \| Report
	zgamer5 posted 24/12/2010, 09:00 wow its going to pass forza 2 Message \| Report
	toastboy44562 posted 24/12/2010, 06:36 forza is the new "must have" racing simulator in North america Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 24/12/2010, 06:16 seems the GT fanboys are sensitive that forza 3 is getting good sales. Like past GT games like GT3 comes to mind were never bundled.......lol gimme a break. a sales is a sale, deal with it. Message \| Report
	toastboy44562 posted 24/12/2010, 06:10 no it sold about 3.7 million in "reality" it didnt start really getting bundled until the last few weeks Message \| Report
	Horrorfest posted 24/12/2010, 05:59 It's entire current sales is misleading this has been bundled for so long and in reality it's sold around 2 million which is good but not a massive success like it's misleading sales that mostly come from bundles makes it out to be. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 24/12/2010, 05:10 The fall sales numbers are misleading this thing is bundled everywhere. Message \| Report
	toastboy44562 posted 23/12/2010, 05:06 best racer ever imo Message \| Report
	--OkeyDokey-- posted 23/12/2010, 03:04 It's quite obvious that people want sims. This whole myth about everyone finding them boring is not reflected in the sales. More sims plz. Message \| Report
	pslee posted 22/12/2010, 03:25 if forza 4 lives up to what microsft mentioned, i will get xbox360. but xbox mus make g25/g27 compatible if they even want to make gt drivers off of their ps3. Message \| Report
	Horrorfest posted 22/12/2010, 12:55 Which is why it doesn't count. Wii Sports doesn't count it's something you get with every purchase of the console. If it was sold seperately that would be a different story. The point is this isn't impressive. It's actually pathetic....bundling it to make it seem like a massive success when in reality it sold around 2 million. Message \| Report
	rossoner posted 19/12/2010, 10:32 @account obvious troll, gt5 isnt bundled anywhere except that special edition in japan, anyway great sales for racer, i love people saying racing genre is dead Message \| Report
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Sales History

Total Sales

0.10m
Japan

2.99m
NA

1.90m
Europe

0.51m
Others

5.50m
Total

1	31,202	n/a	176,114	2,073	209,389
2	6,355	190,692	111,277	55,368	363,692
3	3,875	95,008	69,509	30,046	198,438
4	2,923	69,550	74,450	26,107	173,030
5	2,359	45,556	62,722	19,539	130,176
6	2,014	77,084	53,676	23,892	156,666
7	1,701	43,208	64,056	19,323	128,288
8	1,605	55,945	71,779	23,067	152,396
9	1,733	67,780	79,949	26,720	176,182
10	1,675	77,863	78,594	28,382	186,514

Opinion (326)

	sales2099 posted 06/01/2014, 08:05 lol the insecurity with RockyB runs deep. My post below yours already proved you wrong in January 2013 :) Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 02/01/2014, 04:32 only kinect adventures beats forza bundling Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:35 Correction, it sold 4,373,649 at the end of 2010. So a cool million on its own steam again, again with Forza 4 out since late 2011. All in all, only about 2 million of this games sales is bundles. Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:31 Since its bundling stopped, it sold about 500k, even with Forza 4 out. Impressive. Message \| Report
	JustThatGamer posted 27/09/2012, 02:57 Uncharted 3 is bundled a lot more than this game, I love the hypocrites who praise UC3's sales but disregard Forza 3's success when really both games gained between 30-40% of their sales due to mass bundling. UC2 was mass bundled too, it would only have achieved 70-80% of it's current sales if it weren't for bundling. At the end of the day both Forza and Uncharted rely heavily on bundles, without them Uncharted would only be marginally bigger. The only 1st party exclusives this gen (HD consoles) to have sold over 5 million without the need for mass bundling are: GT5, GoW3, GeoW 1,2,3 and Halo 3,ODST, Reach, they're the games that deserve to be praised. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 19/01/2012, 10:37 wow 5 million. Great sales regardless of how many bundles it may or may not have had. Message \| Report
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	sales2099 posted 06/01/2014, 08:05 lol the insecurity with RockyB runs deep. My post below yours already proved you wrong in January 2013 :) Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 02/01/2014, 04:32 only kinect adventures beats forza bundling Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:35 Correction, it sold 4,373,649 at the end of 2010. So a cool million on its own steam again, again with Forza 4 out since late 2011. All in all, only about 2 million of this games sales is bundles. Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:31 Since its bundling stopped, it sold about 500k, even with Forza 4 out. Impressive. Message \| Report
	JustThatGamer posted 27/09/2012, 02:57 Uncharted 3 is bundled a lot more than this game, I love the hypocrites who praise UC3's sales but disregard Forza 3's success when really both games gained between 30-40% of their sales due to mass bundling. UC2 was mass bundled too, it would only have achieved 70-80% of it's current sales if it weren't for bundling. At the end of the day both Forza and Uncharted rely heavily on bundles, without them Uncharted would only be marginally bigger. The only 1st party exclusives this gen (HD consoles) to have sold over 5 million without the need for mass bundling are: GT5, GoW3, GeoW 1,2,3 and Halo 3,ODST, Reach, they're the games that deserve to be praised. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 19/01/2012, 10:37 wow 5 million. Great sales regardless of how many bundles it may or may not have had. Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 16/01/2012, 01:12 forza games are bundled like hell Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 11/01/2012, 01:40 @michael, NO. more like 3-3.5 million Message \| Report
	Seece posted 19/11/2011, 01:47 Gratz Forza 3 Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 17/11/2011, 01:07 osama, it's more like 4 million. Forza 3 was at 4 million before it was bundled for the second holiday season, and I bet it sold some on it's own too. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 13/11/2011, 06:49 5 mill next week! Message \| Report
	Chris Hu posted 10/11/2011, 01:22 3 million on its own sounds about right. I thought it was bundled about 1.5 million times but it could be closer to the 2 million or a little more. Forza 2 was bundled just as much and only had one bundle compared to three different ones. Also this should surpass 5 million copies by the end of the year. I know I will buy a new copy before I buy Forza 4. Still busy with Forza 2 at the moment almost at driver level 44. So I will put in at least another 10-20 hours before I have done all that I wanted with the game. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 09/11/2011, 04:44 yes, almost 3 million will be its lifetime sales on its own which, most games could only dream of having Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 07/11/2011, 04:57 3 million on its own* Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 07/11/2011, 04:57 The launch bundle hardly counts given those bundles are more expensive than buying the console a lone. I was unaware of the March 2010 bundling. Either way, I believe it did 3 million on its which is a respectable number. Message \| Report
	Carl posted 05/11/2011, 01:47 Forza 3 bundles? It was bundled on launch. It was bundled mid-Year with ODST, Week 24 shows the boost. It had about 1.5 Million units bundles in the 2010 Holidays. Forza 3 probably has been bundled close to 2 Million times... Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 01/11/2011, 09:00 @ leatherhat - There were a few different 2010 holiday bundles. If there was some other bundling it wasn't in mass numbers. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 28/10/2011, 06:57 6 million by the end of the year with the Forza 3 bundle....I guess MS really wants this to sell at least close to GT5. Message \| Report
	leatherhat posted 25/10/2011, 03:27 Mr. Puggsly, Forza 3 was bundled twice Message \| Report
	enditall727 posted 18/10/2011, 08:13 WOAH! sorry for the errors in my last comment =P Message \| Report
	enditall727 posted 18/10/2011, 08:12 looking at the 1st week Amercan numbers for Forza 4 i dont think it will hit wont hit 6 mill ltd. maybe its just too many Forza games for 1 generation Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 18/10/2011, 06:44 @ ProdigyBam - You see that boost from week 54 - 72. That was the bundle period and it accounts for about 1.7 million sales. Hence, this game sold over 3 million units on its own. Its one of the best selling triple A exclusive this gen. Message \| Report
	ProdigyBam posted 17/10/2011, 02:50 LOL "even without bundles"? you kidding me? just type" forza 3 bundles" in google images and youll see how many copies of forza 3 were bundled with a 360. im pretty sure that it is the most bundled game on the 360 after forza 2 Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 15/10/2011, 02:56 This game did awesome even without bundles. Message \| Report
	smroadkill15 posted 14/10/2011, 06:30 Will definitely hit 5 million, especially if it's bundled like I heard. Forza 2 hit 4 Million, Forza 3 (eventually) hit 5 million, now Forza 4's target is 6 million. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 24/09/2011, 08:34 Almost 5 million! You can do it F3! Message \| Report
	yahoocom1984 posted 19/09/2011, 03:35 FPS is always big on PC, fact: Half life seires, counter-strike, Quake series, DOOM and DOD........ect Message \| Report
	yahoocom1984 posted 19/09/2011, 03:35 FPS is always big on PC, fact: Half life seires, counter-strike, Quake series, DOOM and DOD........ect Message \| Report
	yahoocom1984 posted 19/09/2011, 03:35 FPS is always big on PC, fact: Half life seires, counter-strike, Quake series, DOOM and DOD........ect Message \| Report
	Zoniako posted 12/09/2011, 06:56 forza Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 10/08/2011, 05:24 Thats true about GT5, but Forza 4 looks to improve upon it as well. Seems the demise of GT is ultimately the time between releases where as Turn 10 actually makes the most of their time. Bundles or not, Forza is a AAA franchise where as GT is now a AA franchise, and on top of that Forza games just release faster. The fans still like their nostalgia but at least objective gamers know the truth :) Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 08/08/2011, 06:56 lol GT a strong sim.....cause in GT5 you drive in rural communities and obey the traffic signs right? :P. We had this discussion before but its obvious the series if purely running off of nostalgia since it takes longer to come out and lacks features in Forza that go beyond a sim........a FUN VIDEOGAME. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 12/07/2011, 05:05 my maths are terrible, its about 1.5 million from bundles not 2. Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 07/07/2011, 05:03 Too many cry babies. "waah waaah teh bundlez". Lol get over it. A sale s a sale. MS put this game into more gamers hands whether they wanted it or not. They were doing them a favour as this game is one of the best exclusives the 360 has to offer. And it increases brand awareness no mater how you slice it so the opening Forza 4 sales will surpass Forza 3 opening sales and so on. Gimme a break you babies. Message \| Report
	slipknotfan posted 26/06/2011, 02:26 I liked part 2 better! Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 25/06/2011, 03:41 seems close to 2 million from bundles, still not bundled as much as FM2 but still a ton none the less Message \| Report
	Carl posted 02/06/2011, 12:02 Wrong, Seece. It had the ODST bundle in early 2010, you can see it get the boost around Week 24. Message \| Report
	Vekta posted 13/05/2011, 06:14 wow didnt even know forza did these type of numbers, this is pretty good. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 11/05/2011, 10:42 You can see where it started being bundled. 3.1 mill. Without bundles it'd probably be at 3.6-3.8 Mill and 4 mill lifetime, pretty amazing for Forza. Message \| Report
	RealRacer posted 08/04/2011, 09:13 Cat&Mouse destroyed theeRealism in Forza3,won't buying Forza4. Message \| Report
	Calmador posted 14/03/2011, 03:45 Super Mario RPG Message \| Report
	Calmador posted 12/03/2011, 11:27 I didn't expect it to practically reach 5 million... Th bundles helped but it would be crazy to excuse most of the 5 million sales on bundles. When microsoft takes swings, the punches hit hard. Message \| Report
	Chris Hu posted 11/03/2011, 02:46 @Rockyb and anyone else that says so this is not one of the most bundled games. Forza 2 was bundled a whole lot more just compare the sales curves of the two games. In Forza 2's sales curve the bundle spike is so obvious that even a blind man can see it. Message \| Report
	AWESOM-O posted 28/02/2011, 10:21 keep increasing your gamers base.... even if its in bundles Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 24/02/2011, 12:18 one of the most bundled games Message \| Report
	Skeeuk posted 18/02/2011, 09:37 the thing that bugs me about forza 3, is the season play mode is a ripp off pgr4 and the arcade mode is sterile to say the least. on top you have paint shop and a standard lobby system with store front. apart from that theres nothing else in the game. its a completly light game. 2 seasons in i dont play anymore Message \| Report
	edjevink posted 17/02/2011, 09:42 oops, sorry. I thought this was the Search Bar Message \| Report
	edjevink posted 17/02/2011, 09:41 gran turismo 5 Message \| Report
	Onibaka posted 17/02/2011, 07:13 if* Message \| Report
	Onibaka posted 17/02/2011, 07:13 @account Critical acclaim is so important, Sony would be 1#, and Ratchet would be outselling Mario. Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 12/02/2011, 11:45 Actually I take that back, bundles account for at most 1 million sales. It was overtaking EMEAA in sales just before the bundle and is selling better in Americas despite the bundle being sold out a while ago. Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 12/02/2011, 11:43 It's looking like Forza 3 could break 5 million sales. Be it with about 1-1.3 million bundled, but still. 5 million is nothin to joke about, Forza Motorsport 4 might just be big enough to make Forza Motorsport 4 the biggest racing franchise in the americas region. Brand is growing Great Sim. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 12/02/2011, 09:06 whiners of the bundle are really being silly. Its a AAA game (which is more then can be said for the AA reviewed GT5) and the more houses it gets into the better. Slowly but surely the brand recognition is growing with every forza game. As a franchise it allready beat GT in frequency of release and in quality critical acclaim, now its just a matter of taking away the loyal fans Message \| Report
	yesloow posted 09/02/2011, 06:54 sales could have stopped at 3 million, they r going for 5 million because of a fabulous game Message \| Report
	stopstopp posted 06/02/2011, 01:08 Example of the power of bundling, look how just a few weeks sales of bundling makes 1.5 million sales. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 04/02/2011, 05:38 @donut.........ya lets go by the reviews of fans who have no experience in reviewing games from all angles and who have even more bias then the ones reviews who MATTER. GT5 lost, deal. and @thelastsoldier..........your comment alone proves the decline of GT as a franchise. Back in the glory days it should have done it in a couple weeks, not 6 LOL. Message \| Report
	dsage01 posted 30/01/2011, 04:47 wow i would love to see forza 3 sales without that many bundles Message \| Report
	thelastsoldier posted 29/01/2011, 03:29 GT5 beat this in 6 weeks LOL Message \| Report
	Donutsticks posted 23/01/2011, 08:55 @pirategta I think i would rather go by the user scores than the critic scores. because that score is from people that actually like this type of game rather than critics who are payed to play this game. I guess its just going to be cookies and cream or apples and oranges depending on how you wanna look at stuff. Message \| Report
	Pirateogta posted 22/01/2011, 03:03 It* Message \| Report
	Pirateogta posted 22/01/2011, 03:03 @Donutsticks So GT5 outselling Forza 3 makes it the better game even though it has a score of 8 points less on Metacritic? So does that mean that Halo: Reach and Black Ops are better than Uncharted 2 because they outsold it by millions, despite the fact that they both average lower scores? Halo, Call of Duty, and Gran Turismo are going to sell on name alone. IT doesn't make them "more desirable to the gaming community" as you so put it. Once you buy the game, your sale is locked in. You may hate the game, but there's no way to take back that sale. Message \| Report
	jpain333 posted 04/01/2011, 06:31 lets not argue...they both great games too bad fanboys are too blind to admit that.. Message \| Report
	Chris Hu posted 04/01/2011, 02:55 I agree with zgamer that the Forza3/Alan Wake bundle was/is really great probably the best 360 bundle ever, to bad that I bought my 360s in October when their where no holiday bundles. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 03/01/2011, 02:03 lol seems we still got hippie tree hugger gamers like donut who think scores dont count when it doesnt matter to them lol. You feel GT5 is the best, good 4 you. But clearly the scores say its lacking and ive seen many people who have expressed disapointment in it. Deal.....on paper GT5 is the loser franchise. 2 forzas come out in less time and each gets over 90+. But hey, it shouldnt matter that GT is the loser franchise......what matters is that YOU think its best :P Message \| Report
	zgamer5 posted 01/01/2011, 06:22 beat forza 2, can it reach 5 million? and damn what a great holiday bundle/ Message \| Report
	Donutsticks posted 01/01/2011, 12:30 @account I See you still have your apparent "need" to feel Forza is better than GT5 craze going on. Dude when will you ever learn. It doesn't matter which game was scored higher by the critics. It matters which game is more desirable to the gaming community and as it stands gt5 has an outstanding chance of breaking 6 million games sold in just 10 weeks!! So now you know how to judge which game "won" and which game Lost. Which game is better is totally up to the opinion of the gamer and as you should know by now opinions are pretty worthless. Message \| Report
	4k1x3r posted 31/12/2010, 06:35 Yea yea Michael, yea yea... Message \| Report
	Michael-5 posted 31/12/2010, 09:04 Forza Motorsport 3 is better, sorry guys. Almost every online video game website agrees, and if either of you guys ever played both, you would see it. GT5 is a slightly better simulator in the sence that the weight distribution of the car really affects breaking and cornering, but only 200 of the cars have in car views, and GT5 also has less tracks, and even with repeating races to earn money GT5 is still a shorter game. There are pros and cons to both games, and any car nut should get both games, as they satisfy different car nut perspectives. Both games are still phenomenal, and in reality the only real difference between them is the frequency of release. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 31/12/2010, 04:42 Forza was at 3.1 mill before it got its holiday bundle. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 28/12/2010, 09:12 You think that PD has only been working on gt5 for the past 6 years. Maybe you've heard of tourist trophy, gt hd concept, gt5 prologue and gtpsp. How many of those years were actually spent making gt5? 2? 3? Get your facts straight. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 28/12/2010, 05:31 just saing pal...we both have opinions. they cancel eachother out. but I have the gaming review industry backing me up. People who have pointed out many flaws in GT5 that shouldnt be there given the 5.5 years time. Ya i get it, your a non conformist and listen to yourself. ok. But as gamers comaparing games in the same genre, the scores tend to be a good indicator of overall quality. Gt5 lost, forza 3 won. deal. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 28/12/2010, 04:34 I don't have acceptance issues, I've accepted that GT5 is the better game, but because I just don't bow down and believe anything you say makes me have issues? It must be hard living in a world where if people don't share your opinion then they must have something seriously wrong with them. Or maybe you have the problem. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 28/12/2010, 08:19 @mordred.....lol ya but they also say GT5 is a seriously lacking video game. u know....the reason why we buy consoles. Sims dont mean much when the VIDEO GAME part is lacking. Thats where forza wins......its a great sim AND a great video game. And turismo....funny ppl usually say the dont care about sales and its all about the quality (reviews). but u got serious acceptance issues. Quality wise, GT 5 clearly lost to Forza, both in overal quality and frequency of release. As for sales, I am very inpressed to see forza sales so great compared to forza sales last gen. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 28/12/2010, 12:21 Doing great. While its a bundle game, it only comes with the Elite consoles. Clearly people are willing to spend more to get the bundled games. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 27/12/2010, 09:53 I meant 84 not 90+ in my last post Message \| Report
	Mordred11 posted 27/12/2010, 09:40 @aacount2099.What are you talking about?The reviewers actually say that GT5 IS the best racing-sim out there ;) ;) Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 27/12/2010, 09:38 It's not my problem people like you hype games because I don't care what stupid review sites score games. This game totally did not flop and is still the king. Just because some site that you see to hold in high regard gave it 90+ means nothing to the millions of fans that know the truth. GT5 is here and better than ever. And if you don't care about sales, why are you even on this site for? Or are you in denile? Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 27/12/2010, 05:17 it was hyped to be AAA (90+). Its 84 on metacritic. Thats a flop when a game fails to meet said hype. deal. Forza won. I understand though, when your franchise was king since the PS1 days its hard to accept change. At least u gotz the sales :P Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 26/12/2010, 03:14 You're saying gt5 flopped because of a metacritic score? Did you even play the game or do you like other people to make decisions for you? Message \| Report
	rddflag posted 26/12/2010, 10:15 So a bundled game has Xbox dudes jumping up and down over GT5's supposed grave? GT5 is a system seller, and it was obviously put on shelves with some dusting required. Post release updates have made it at least a 90 if it were to reviewed today. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 26/12/2010, 08:00 well Mr turismo........there is a sales comparison. compare forza and gt sales last gen to this gen and youll see exactly that there is one. But in the end, sales only dictates commercial success. Critically, where it counts with us gamers, Forza took the sim crown with how GT5 flopped (84 on meatcritic). Forza 4 wont need to touch GT5 in sales......itll just need to score better then a 84 on metacritic LOL Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 25/12/2010, 11:56 there is no sales comparison in one year gt5 will have over 10 million sold. Outside of bundles I doubt this did even 2 million. Forza 4 wont even touch gt5 either. Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 25/12/2010, 09:57 well its good to see this game bundled to raise brand awareness. Its a AAA (90+) rated game so its great to see it be in more gamers hands. I mean its the new king of sim racing (92 beats 84) since GT5 was a great sim but a incredibly lacking video game. Overall forza has GT beat in ratings and has been holding on this long in sales, which is a victory in itself compared to GT/forza sales last gen. Message \| Report
	mark24 posted 25/12/2010, 04:49 gran turismo Message \| Report
	Bagaren85 posted 25/12/2010, 12:51 Great sales! Forza 3 goes speed.. Will buy it soon Message \| Report
	--OkeyDokey-- posted 25/12/2010, 12:03 And toastboy, first month sales in America disagree. Message \| Report
	--OkeyDokey-- posted 24/12/2010, 11:59 Nobody's a hater. Ignorant people need to be informed that this game comes free with a console that has sold multi-million units in the last couple weeks. Message \| Report
	elvacano80 posted 24/12/2010, 03:54 all you hates are a fucking disgrace to gaming. Go Forza go! Message \| Report
	Kinneas14 posted 24/12/2010, 11:04 C'mon, bundled or not bundled doesn't matter. It is an awesome racing , it's obvious that is going to sell good. Message \| Report
	zgamer5 posted 24/12/2010, 09:00 wow its going to pass forza 2 Message \| Report
	toastboy44562 posted 24/12/2010, 06:36 forza is the new "must have" racing simulator in North america Message \| Report
	account2099 posted 24/12/2010, 06:16 seems the GT fanboys are sensitive that forza 3 is getting good sales. Like past GT games like GT3 comes to mind were never bundled.......lol gimme a break. a sales is a sale, deal with it. Message \| Report
	toastboy44562 posted 24/12/2010, 06:10 no it sold about 3.7 million in "reality" it didnt start really getting bundled until the last few weeks Message \| Report
	Horrorfest posted 24/12/2010, 05:59 It's entire current sales is misleading this has been bundled for so long and in reality it's sold around 2 million which is good but not a massive success like it's misleading sales that mostly come from bundles makes it out to be. Message \| Report
	TurismoT posted 24/12/2010, 05:10 The fall sales numbers are misleading this thing is bundled everywhere. Message \| Report
	toastboy44562 posted 23/12/2010, 05:06 best racer ever imo Message \| Report
	--OkeyDokey-- posted 23/12/2010, 03:04 It's quite obvious that people want sims. This whole myth about everyone finding them boring is not reflected in the sales. More sims plz. Message \| Report
	pslee posted 22/12/2010, 03:25 if forza 4 lives up to what microsft mentioned, i will get xbox360. but xbox mus make g25/g27 compatible if they even want to make gt drivers off of their ps3. Message \| Report
	Horrorfest posted 22/12/2010, 12:55 Which is why it doesn't count. Wii Sports doesn't count it's something you get with every purchase of the console. If it was sold seperately that would be a different story. The point is this isn't impressive. It's actually pathetic....bundling it to make it seem like a massive success when in reality it sold around 2 million. Message \| Report
	rossoner posted 19/12/2010, 10:32 @account obvious troll, gt5 isnt bundled anywhere except that special edition in japan, anyway great sales for racer, i love people saying racing genre is dead Message \| Report
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	sales2099 posted 06/01/2014, 08:05 lol the insecurity with RockyB runs deep. My post below yours already proved you wrong in January 2013 :) Message \| Report
	Rockyb posted 02/01/2014, 04:32 only kinect adventures beats forza bundling Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:35 Correction, it sold 4,373,649 at the end of 2010. So a cool million on its own steam again, again with Forza 4 out since late 2011. All in all, only about 2 million of this games sales is bundles. Message \| Report
	sales2099 posted 04/01/2013, 06:31 Since its bundling stopped, it sold about 500k, even with Forza 4 out. Impressive. Message \| Report
	JustThatGamer posted 27/09/2012, 02:57 Uncharted 3 is bundled a lot more than this game, I love the hypocrites who praise UC3's sales but disregard Forza 3's success when really both games gained between 30-40% of their sales due to mass bundling. UC2 was mass bundled too, it would only have achieved 70-80% of it's current sales if it weren't for bundling. At the end of the day both Forza and Uncharted rely heavily on bundles, without them Uncharted would only be marginally bigger. The only 1st party exclusives this gen (HD consoles) to have sold over 5 million without the need for mass bundling are: GT5, GoW3, GeoW 1,2,3 and Halo 3,ODST, Reach, they're the games that deserve to be praised. Message \| Report
	osamanobama posted 19/01/2012, 10:37 wow 5 million. Great sales regardless of how many bundles it may or may not have had. Message \| Report
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