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First of all, before anyone starts flaming me, I don't think Smash Bros sucks! This is an article from IGN's insider series. Long read, but it'll make you laugh at the stupidity. :p

 

"Contrarian Corner: Super Smash Bros. Brawl

We explain why Nintendo's spectacular brawler is dead on arrival.

March 12, 2008 - Contrarian Corner is a new feature on Insider meant to take a more critical look at some recently-released games. The average review tends to treat a game as an objective product, evaluating its merits based on a series of frequently technical categories, like sound, framerate, gameplay interface, value, variety of modes, and overall fun factor. This typically doesn't leave much room to look at a game's thematic elements or how well they are integrated with the game's technical components. To that end, Contrarian Corner is intended to be a place for a more holistic discussion of games which have been the recipient of either an abundance of single-minded praise, or an undue amount of criticism. We won't be taking cheap shots or lobbying baseless accusations from the bully pulpit, but, instead, aim to start a conversation about the human value of the games we play and how they might evolve from here. If you're interested in joining in, keep reading. 

The Smash Bros. series is a strange anomaly on the face of gaming. It's a fighting game that's not really a fighting game. It's a platformer that's not really about platforming. It's an unabashed revelry in all things Nintendo, but resists simple classification as indulgent fan service. Smash Bros. games have become a point of obsession for many hardcore fans and spawned a thriving culture of tournament play with an encyclopedic set of moves, exploits, and counters. Super Smash Bros. Brawl for Wii continues all of the most distinctive qualities of the series in what has already become one of the best-reviewed games of all time. All of which is strange because of how disjunctive and vapid the game really is, once you dig into it. So then, let's dig into it.

Smash Bros. is designed around approachability. Throwing out the more traditional fighting game approach of convoluted sequences of button presses and joystick manipulation, Smash Bros. ties every character's move set to a single button push in combination with a single directional press on the analog stick. If you can do one character's moves, you can do them all. The unintended result of this control setup is a lop-sided disconnect between the interface and the attack types and the length of their animations. Having an identical input for a move that lasts a quarter of a second as for a move that has an animation over a second long creates a strange break between the games controls and the action in the game. 

This is painfully apparent in Brawl where it can feel like you are simply babysitting your character through a sequence of canned animations while intermittently providing another identical input to generate an absurdly disconnected reaction. In more traditional fighting games, the difficult inputs required to execute more exaggerated moves isn't just a way of balancing risk and reward but an interactive mask that justifies the length of the attack animation when you lose control of your character. In this model, quick and responsive attacks have simple and direct inputs, while attacks with longer attack animations require longer input sequences. This subconscious symmetry of input with the in-game result is completely lacking in Brawl. The side-effect is a sense of controller lag, in which players are left mashing buttons while nothing happens on screen because they're still stuck in the previous attack's animation. 

You can learn to work around the distancing effect of Brawl's attack animation and disconnected controls, but it goes against the most basic input/feedback loop that gaming is built on. The most compelling games are the ones with the smallest distance between the player's input and the game returning a result based on their input. From hitting a button to spin a Tetris block to angling an analog stick to change your aim in Halo, having direct and immediate feedback at all times in a game is the umbilical cord which connects players to the fabricated game world. In Brawl, you're all too frequently mashing buttons to move your character while nothing happens because they're still finishing off the animation from a previous move, be it an exaggerated dash, an ornate butt stomp, or a charged special attack. Learning the timing of each attack goes a long way to making the basic system of attacking more playable, but there's little denying that it's a system which requires the player to work around moments of non-interactivity. 

The typical parry for this criticism has been that the person just isn't good at the game. "You don't understand the game because you suck at it." This is argument is totally antithetical to the stated purpose of the game being approachable above all things. If you have to have skill to understand Brawl, what's the point of the simplified control scheme? Indeed, if I suck at the game it should be more enjoyable to me, since I'm the intended audience for whom the game has been balanced. No, the schism between liking and disliking Brawl isn't based on skill but aesthetics. In short, Brawl, like its predecessors, is a game that panders and basely titillates the players who greedily drink in every absurd frame of animation and all of the go-for-broke explosions and special effects. Brawl, more so than any previous Smash game is a fantasia of pure whimsy disconnected from any deeper meaning. 

Whereas the original game had the clever framing device of the Master Hand serving as the imperiously omnipotent hand of the child forcing his toys into uncharacteristically violent action, Brawl has forgone the concession of its nonsensical origins. In place of the parable of Master Hand, we're given the randomly epic narrative of the Subspace Emissary strolling through Nintendo-land turning all of Kyoto's most precious icons into statues. In the original Smash, there was an implicit concession to the notion that all of the players were inanimate puppets being actively manipulated by the player/hand. That paradigm is reversed in Brawl, where the characters begin as sentient creatures with lives outside of their individual game worlds, who are only objectified by some nefarious ray gun which shoots, presumably, some cartoonish version of Eddington's time arrow. In Subspace Emissary, Sakurai has made a tragically detrimental shift in theme that takes the meager but effective framing of the original and turns it into an unbridled exercise in masturbatory excess. 
 
This is a point which circles back on the argument for skill being a crucial component to understanding the game. Obviously, anyone can build up a significant amount of skill in any game they apply themselves to. Supporting skilled players isn't a validation of a given game; it's a tool for the player to validate themselves irrespective of the game. The path towards skill acquisition in Brawl is a relatively simple one, requiring only practice and attention to the timing of each attack's animation. The question more central to Brawl is about the way the game rewards players for attaining a high level of skill. Setting aside the botched story-progression of Subspace Emissary, the ultimate in-game reward of mastering Brawl is the experience of becoming the toy master. Highly skilled players have learned how to relate the same rooted controls across a wide array of different characters and attack. They have melded hand-eye coordination with a childish imagination that can support a world where Mario would fight Samus or Solid Snake. 

In other words, Smash Bros. Brawl is a developmentally regressive experience when played on the highest level. It allows players to walk backwards through time and entertain the same primal amusement of a child laughing disconnectedly at the bright flashing colors and lights on the TV screen. There's certainly nothing inherently bad about offering that kind of an experience, but neither is there anything remarkably enlightened or special about it. While the original Smash at least had a sense of perspective about the experience it offered, Brawl has gone totally insane with its branding and self-referential arcana. If it's difficult to have a good time with the game's cumbersomely-timed controls, it's all but impossible to invest in a world whose primary motivation is to nurture your inner toddler. 

There's a fine line between simple, family-oriented stories and pure exploitation. This is a line Brawl has crossed irredeemably, making it a hollow and vapid tome to the corporate iconography that has financed its development. In films like Toy Story and Bambi, simple family-friendly aesthetics are presented in a way that unabashedly appeals to, and entertains, the remnant youngster in all of us. Yet, these stories are couched in terms that acknowledge the fundamentally fleeting quality of that childish wonder. In short, these stories are about growing up. The presence of Master Hand as the centralizing villain in the original Smash game was a conscious conceit to the immature state of mind of a person capable of investing themselves in an absurd fantasy world where Mario would have to fight ten Captain Falcon's in a row. In Brawl the script has been flipped, portraying the world where our little mascots might exist as empty objects (i.e. the real world) as the ridiculous one. 

This theme is all the more disturbing given the uniquely corporate ties that Brawl has. Like every Smash game, Brawl is an unabashed promotional pamphlet for anything and everything Nintendo has done. Sakurai and his team have taken enormous pains to stuff Brawl to the gills with nods to hundreds of old Nintendo titles. His approach treats every game as a sub-franchise that exists under the all-knowing banner of Nintendo which has been the patron of them all, in one form or another (Sonic and Solid Snake excluded). The unfortunate irony is that this meta-celebration totally neuters the charm that any of the characters have as individuals. Mario and Samus exist at cross-purposes, as do Link and Captain Falcon. So much of what makes each character special is lost through the game's silent emphasis on Nintendo as the generative deity that has spawned them all. Miyamoto didn't create Link for a specific reason, "Nintendo" willed him into being. Is this not the very image and embodiment of corporate propaganda?

Smash Bros. famously began as a prototype for a generic martial arts game and it's tempting not to imagine what would have happened with the series if Nintendo had never agreed to let its mascots be used in the game. Would the fighting mechanics be as compelling if all of the same moves were tethered to a series of Bruce Lee clones? Would the Pavlovian outbursts of joy be the same if it was a ninja performing Link's spin attack? It's difficult to imagine that anyone would care. The disappointing truth of Smash Bros. Brawl is that of a game with unresponsive controls, a vapid narrative context, superficially titillating visuals, and a deeply disturbing nod to the corporate progenitor to which so many players associate their personal gaming experiences with. 

"But it's fun." This is the argument any conversation about Smash Bros. always returns to. What is fun about it? Is it simply the experience of being good at something? Is it the wonder of seeing all your favorite childhood toys in one centralized hub world, fully pliable and willing to supplicate to your whims? Is it the experience of playing against your friends in an absurd cartoon world where all the normal constraints of real life fade away in the charred path of Pikachu's lightning strike? Isn't it, instead a kind of mass hypnosis (all too common in the gaming world) where we mutually convince ourselves that the brand is the message; that the label we package the experience in is paramount? Playing Brawl is an uncomfortably empty experience. When I put down the Wii remote and nunchuk (yes, that's how I prefer to play) and walk away from the Wii, I feel like I've given more of myself than I received in return from the game. It doesn't matter, finally, whether I've won or lost because the game has provided me with nothing but distraction. 

Super Smash Bros. Brawl represents the very worst face of gaming, the side which takes us away from ourselves in a catatonic hypnosis and with no greater reward than time out of mind. Forgive me, but I don't approve, and I'm not resigned."



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Thats a persons opinion, and you should not attack them.



 

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I'm not attacking. Just read it. :p



Nintendo Network ID: Cheebee   3DS Code: 2320 - 6113 - 9046

 

I need to attack them...*pulls out smash ball* (20 years later)....Wow, where did IGN go???



 

Well, an opinion is an opinion, but (I'm trying to put it very carefully here) I do not agree with many of the arguments used. For one, the text is a little unclear; you can see that the writer doesn't like some things, but it's very hard to understand what it is exactly. What's his point in the end?
Second, I do not believe in this 'sense of detachment' and 'distance between input and output' he talks about. Of course, if everything happened at the exact moment you pushed the button, you'd have people performing ten attacks at once through fast button mashing. And maybe you can't do anything during another attack, but so what? What kind of idiot would be bashing buttons in the middle of another animation and actually be bothered by it?
He seems to portray Brawl as a cheap moneymaking tool, used to promote Nintendo and its franchises. Of course it is promotion, but if this game was made only to make money... why add Subspace Emissary? Third-party characters? Co-op? Lots of people would've still bought it without (some of) those features, but they were put in nonetheless. Brawl is a generous fan package if I've ever seen any, and allegations of cheap money motives are... questionable.
And what's wrong with this whole 'skilled play' story? God, have we learned nothing? 'Well you may be good but f*ck u, it's a kiddy game anyways and I own you in Halo'. 'Childishness' and skilled play do not exclude each other, not at all, and especially in a game like this, honing your skills is very rewarding. Maybe that guy thinks different, but he probably knows just as good as I that his view is not shared by most people, and he still presents it as a 'subjective fact'. And that story about emptiness... o please dude, I feel so sorry. Sorry you wasted your time playing one of the greatest games ever. You should get your money back.

'Super Smash Bros. Brawl represents the worst side of gaming'.
Yeah I agree. Generous packages, fan service, and quality should be banned out of the shelves. Hell, we need more shovelware!



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I don't agree with the majority of what he's saying, but he's obviously someone who grew up with an arcade machine of Street Fighter II in front of his face and isn't taking the radical shift of fighting games lightly. This one paragraph speaks absolute truth however:

Smash Bros. famously began as a prototype for a generic martial arts game and it's tempting not to imagine what would have happened with the series if Nintendo had never agreed to let its mascots be used in the game. Would the fighting mechanics be as compelling if all of the same moves were tethered to a series of Bruce Lee clones? Would the Pavlovian outbursts of joy be the same if it was a ninja performing Link's spin attack? It's difficult to imagine that anyone would care. The disappointing truth of Smash Bros. Brawl is that of a game with unresponsive controls, a vapid narrative context, superficially titillating visuals, and a deeply disturbing nod to the corporate progenitor to which so many players associate their personal gaming experiences with.

It's hard to imagine anyone toting this fighting game as their favorite ever if Nintendo mascots weren't your playable characters. Without a shadow of a doubt, this would have been a nice bottom feeder fighter like Power Stone and would have been forgotten quickly. This is a game built off the strength of it's cast as opposed to the strength of it's gameplay. I'm not saying the game plays bad at all, because on the contrary I find it very fun the short amount of time I've played this series. It's just that, there's a reason no one cares about Power Stone and Small Arms but eat up Smash Bros. and Jump Superstars, and it ain't the gameplay.



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Of course, no one ever denied that. But that doesn't make the series as cheap as this guy presents them. The games industry has always thrived on recognition by the fans - Mario games sell most because they are, well, Mario games. Same for Halo or Zelda. This game takes it a step higher, but is very blunt about it.



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@ The author:

"You don't understand the game because you suck at it."



Wow... my bullshitometers were reading off the charts on this one.

First off, the simple controls make sense. you have a regular and a special attack, and then you have directions for those attacks. Why should it be different for everyone else? Why should I have to look up and memorize a string of 12 different buttons in order to activate some special move?

Character animation length? Utter crap. Same button presses have different timings, that timing is the critical difference that completely changes the gameplay and fighting style of every character. Some characters are fast, some are slow, this means you need to position your character and monitor the flow of battle to ensure that your attacks coincide with the area your opponent occupies.

Not as much fun without the nintendo mascots? Of COURSE not! The nintendo mascots have PERSONALITY! It's not just about appeasing the fanbase.

And then the whole dichotomy thing, about it supposedly being both Too Easy and Too Hard at the same time. Yes, the concept is easy to pick up. MASTERING it is entirely different, and because of its simplicity, it is an nearly endless road of potential.
In order to just play the game, you only need to know, regular attack, special, shield, and then movement. In order to MASTER the game you have to understand timing, be able to predict opponents moves, recognize their attacks and how long those attacks can take to execute, understand your terrain, the speed, power, timing, and recovery of your own attacks, how much damage you can take before being in danger, how much damage other opponents can withstand before you will be able to knock them off the stage, as well as the direction they will travel depending on which attacks you use.
Those are just basic elements of strategy, many of which are far more limited, if they even exist at all, in other fighting games.

Honestly, yeah, I don't care if that was just their opinion or not, it doesn't make their opinions any less erroneous.



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