Sony Not Expecting PS4 "Anytime Soon"

PS3 = Ten year lifecycle PS2 + Ten year lifecycle PS1 = ?

@Untamoi: partially true. The only two things that set apart PC and console are the ability to compute high-end physics and graphics. You can't compare those with a modern PC. DX11 is not present and as well as OPENCL library and even if they would be able to be programmed they would lack the minimum transistors able to perform it, as they are heavy tasks. Also, PS3 GPU is shite. It's derived froma the nVidia 7XXX version, which doesn't even have programmable shaders, but they are still divided in pixel and vertex types. The only games that looks really good on PS3 are the first party ones, whose studios are almost (the studio behind The Saboteur being the case) the only one that are able to take advantage of the Cell video post processing capability. So to end it, yes, in a short amout of time this generation will look outdated, as the next wave of PC games will start to come out (The witcher 2 and more importantly Battlefield 3, which look amazing and won't be hold back by the DX9 library).

The consoles have been maxed out for a while now. Reach maxed out the 360 and Killzone 3 maxes out the PS3, if GoW 3 didn't. Compared to PC gaming, they look terribly dated.

"All the consoles are very weak hardware-wise at this point, especially the Wii. 512mb of ram that is shared between both system and video? My PC has 4GB system and 1256mb video. The point is just to illustrate how far behind the Xbox 360 and PS3 is technologically." This isn't comparable. PC wastes a lot of RAM to huge OS (360 OS uses 32MB RAM and Windows 7 could easily use over 500MB) and a lot of CPU and GPU cycles to tasks which consoles never need (like multitasking, which consoles don't need). Actually, Windows is very inefficient OS for gaming even today because it was never especially intended for gaming, gaming was just an afterthought. With similar specs console could easily destroy PC. And, really, owners of high-end PC's are tiny minority. Biggest selling PC games don't have especially great graphics and have low requirements. If PC developer wants to create a game which sells, they would have to make game work for 4-5 year-old PC (normal PC, not high-end PC 4-5 years ago).

You cant hold consoles to the same standards that pc's have. You do realize pc's do more then play games right? When your playing a game there is system software running in the background. All that extra ram is needed to keep the system running smoothly. Consoles are dedicated gaming machines that are designed to do only 1 thing at a time, minus very small tasks like messaging or sub menu's. Thats why a ps3 can put out comparable graphics to a high level pc. I'm not say ps3 looks better but a device that is designed to do 1 job instead of 20 is always going to need less complex and powerful hardware. Really I should have to be explaining this in this day an age.

PS3 doesnt need it 360 might need it Wii needs it! PS3 is the strongest console at least hardware wise, dunno how they want to top themselves without a very high price console again.

@metalgamer, yes all consoles are in decline. Yes PS3 is ahead of Wii, that's because Wii is dropping faster. PS3 is down this year, and it will not top 2010. Ok so a few PS3 games run at 1080P, still the vast majority are 720P or lower. I"....as PC can't keep in in smooth graphics" I have no idea what you are saying here, if you think PS3 "has smoother graphics" you are completely mislead. PCs are orders of magnitude more powerful than a PS3, but the money is in consoles like I said so you don't see any titles taking advantage of the hardware. Any console game ported to PC runs much, much better at 4-5 times the resolution of 720P/sub HD and more than triple the framerate, If you don't believe me go check out some benchmarks for console ports. Yes, only a few games take advantage of the hardware, I'm just putting to rest the belief that "because PC games don't look that much better" the PS3 won't need a successor till 2016 . Once a next gen console comes out the PC will be getting ports of those games instead and the PS3 will instantly look dated.

I_P Sony may release a USB BluRay player for those who want to run old games. Even though the new Cell and GPU in the PS4 will be directly compatible with PS3, Sony may not even support PS3 game disks. Then again, they may release a version of PS4 with and without BluRay. Once again this is not going to generate the same headaches as the PS2 compatibility did with PS3, as the hardware will not be an issue. As for PSN streaming games, it will not be like 'Onlive' which only streams video. This will stream game data only. For instance, you may download chapter 1 of Uncharted 4 to play, but whilst you play, Chapter 2 will download in the background. It is an interesting concept, as it would allow Sony to produce a really cheap PS4 which even lacks a Hard Drive. It is likely that this time around, we will see three models of PS4. One with No HD or Optical, one with just a HD, and one with HD and Optical.

@MetalGamer - in response to me. 1. That attach ratio is dropping, even 360 is selling less on a weekly basis then it did last year. A $50 price cut might make 2011 sales break even for PS3/360, but I don't see substantial change. The DS only deviated by 1 million before and after it's peak year, I think the same will be true for PS3/360 this fall, but the deviation will likely result in lower sales. Either way, you could be right, sales were down for 360 last year and look how much sales jumped due to Kinect. It's hard to predict these things, but PS3 and 360 are about mid-life if anything now. 2. Move is no where nearly as big as 360, not even that much bigger then Eye-Toy on PS2, and 3D doesn't affect that many game purchases. Also on a technical level PS3 isn't superior to 360, it's different. Each console is more capable of different things. Saying PS3 is more powerful then 360 is like saying XBox is more powerful then Gamecube. The graphics are close. Also when did Microsoft say they would release the 720 in 2015? Sony repeatedly states they are after a 10 year lifecycle with PS3, that doesn't mean all 10 of those years it will be the primary playstation console. They've also stated that PS1 had a 10 year life-cycle, and PS2 has exceeded that. PS4 will likely start slowly like the PS3 did, so if PS4 was released in 2012/2013, PS3 will easily continue to sell units until at least 2016 - 10 years. 3. Last Year, of the 4 big 360 exclusives, Alan Wake was a new IP, Splinter Cell was a massive overhaul of the game engine, and a completely new game, Fable 3 was the first sequel on the console, and Halo was the third. Plus about 2 or 3 new Kinect IP's. I wouldn't say this was a sequel filled year. Either way, 360 sales are starting to drop, had Kinect not saved the 360. Last Year PS3 saw a couple new IP's, but none this year. 360 still have Kinect to bring in New IP's. PS3 this year is seeing Uncharted 3, and Resistance 3, two secondary sequels (like Halo), LBP2, Killzone 3, InFAMOUS 2, Disgaea 4 four more sequels, and The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal, two old IP restarts, one originally planned to be an Arcade game. Sales will not keep up, people will want something new, look at the new Motorstorms sales, and it's very likely LBP2 won't sell as well as LBP1. I mean in 2012, what do PS3 fans have to look forward to? Sony generally releases game information very early, and all I see for 2012 is Final Fantasy XIII Versus. A PS4 is coming soon, but this year will be great for gamers. Also good observation about GTA, but you know every Playstation has only had 3 main Final Fantasy titles? Generally when the third one is released we know about the successor console. Well FFXIV is coming soon, how much longer do you think it will be before a Final Fantasy XV?

I already knew optical drives was a thing of the past (except for the occasional install of store bought games). I am glad Sony also realizes it, since it was the Blu-Ray drive that was the biggest bottleneck for PS3.

All the consoles are very weak hardware-wise at this point, especially the Wii. 512mb of ram that is shared between both system and video? My PC has 4GB system and 1256mb video. The point is just to illustrate how far behind the Xbox 360 and PS3 is technologically.

I belive we will se the first info about the ps3 in 2012 and a release in 2013.

@ph4nt "I can't beleive someone would actually think the PS4 won't launch until 2016...." If next Nintendo home console will not have better graphics than PS3, third-parties won't leave it (and it's probable, considering the new path Nintendo took with Wii). If next Xbox will not come anytime soon, PS3 won't be obsolete for sure (and it's probable, considering that X360 still made more losses than profits). So, why would PS4 come before 2016? PS3 had huge losses at the beginning and now it's profitable. Why launching a PS4 now that PS3 is finally giving back what was invested on it? Is it 2016 too far? Will Blu-ray become obsolete first? Will 3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine (with 1 PPE & 7 SPEs) be more obsolete in 2016 than 294MHz Emotion Engine was in 2006? I don't think so. "PS3 has already peaked and is in decline, along with all current gen systems." Not "along", please, lets look at the numbers. In the past, PS3 was constantly behind Wii. Now, it's constantly ahead. And, to be honest, I don't believe PS3's peak has already occured. "Ps3 games run at 720P at best" False. WipEpout HD and several other PS3 games run at 1080p. "the difference in graphics settings isn't too large, but with the increase in resolution and frame rate, the consoles can't keep up." ...as PC can't keep up in smooth graphics. "The only time you see a huge leap in PC graphics is when a new console generation arrives so that the ports don't have to be based on old hardware." So, consoles rule the industry and PC will wait. What's your problem?

I can't beleive someone would actually think the PS4 won't launch until 2016.... PS3 has already peaked and is in decline, along with all current gen systems. When Nintendo's next system launches, they will be forced to launch a new one if they want to stay competitive. As for those that say PC graphics aren't really that much better, you are missing a lot of the details. Ps3 games run at 720P at best, most of them sub 720P and most of the times below 30 FPS. PC ports of console games run at 2560x1600 and 100+ FPS at higher graphics settings, yes the difference in graphics settings isn't too large, but with the increase in resolution and frame rate, the consoles can't keep up. If you tried to run Black Ops at 2560x1600 PS3 would probably be running at fewer than 5 FPS, completely unplayable. Of course the other thing is that there aren't any dedicated PC developers anymore pushing the hardware. The only time you see a huge leap in PC graphics is when a new console generation arrives so that the ports don't have to be based on old hardware.

@Superman4: They only lost $1 Billion to hardware issues, & I'm positive that they've already made that back by now.

this is great news as ps3 is just starting to get profits, more games and better sales.

@VMEfinn "- BluRay most likely gone (will use media cards or PSN)" Surely they can't drop Blu-ray - How could I play all my PS3/2/1 games then?? And they want to sell blu-ray moives to people Also, "From what has been suggested, Sony is cutting what they call unnecessary bulk of the PS4 (Optical drives Etc), and focusing its efforts on really fast hardware. Supposedly with PS4, PSN will allow games to be streamed." If Sony want really fast hardware - Why would they concentrate on streaming games?! That doesnt require fast hardware just a fast internet connection.

I say wait until there's enough new and worthwhile technology available to really make a significant leap between generations. We need real innovation and technological gains to justify a new wave of consoles.

Its not going to be soon guys, sorry. You must take into account the gaming industry is in bad shape compared to the last few gens, some companies have thrived, but most are hurting right now. Also, major consumer nations for gaming like US and Japan are on an economic decline. They are still working on making a profit on these consoles 5+ years later, even though Sony has deep pockets, they are not going to dump more money into developing a new console yet. Nintendo did well selling a ton of DS and Wii consoles, that were cheap to produce, also they did not dump money into an online service like PSN and XBL, so they will be the only one this gen to release a new console any time soon. In reality nintendo will be on the verge of announcing a 2nd console when the PS4 is released. Here is a what will most likely happen. 1. Nintendo will release a console in the next 2 to 3 years (Sony will not even announce their console in this time, microsoft might but I will get to that) 2. Sony is going to focus on their PSP2 / NGP 3. The PC market is going to get a large pop again, and all these graphic advances you guys are worried about not seeing for many years, will still happen, but will be on the PC. This wont last long maybe 2 years, but it happens at the end of every console gen. 4. Microsoft will attempt to take a bigger piece of the PC gaming market, and possibly go head to head with Steam during this predicted rise in PC gaming. 5. Microsoft will release before Sony next gen aswell, and im predicting a 2-3 year headstart this time. 6. PS4 will release late 2016 or even 2017. Next gen will feel less like a gen than ever before, as i predict the consoles will be spaced apart enough to where each console will feel like a small leap. Nintendo will release 2013 Microsoft 2014, maybe 2015 Sony 2016 or 2017 We will see what ONlive and AppleTV do to possibly change the game, but I think all of this will happen.

@UltimateUnknown Don't forget about the billions Microsoft has lost due to RROD issues. Sales wise the PS3 and 360 look to be very close currently with the PS3 outselling the 360 every week. Sony will continue to lower price and stay on the market longer because the hardware from the start was more robust. The Kinect is Microsoft's ploy at keeping the 360 around longer and it may or may not work for them. Sales for the system remain low even though the price is lower. Both Sony and Microsoft are making profit but can only lower price so much before they go negative again. Something neither will do.

There is no need for a PS4 in the next 2-3 years. Take a look at modern PC-games.Most of them don"t look as good as Uncharted2 and Killzone3 and maybe uncharted 3 will be one of the best looking games at the end of the year. Ant the few PCgames that really look better don"t look that much better that people say"wow-i wanna spent money to buy a new consol" I think in 2015 the next generation will appear.At this time the graphics will improve tolook much better to make people buy the next gen. ---- Yeah, because they are limited by consoles development. Battlefield BC:3 will demonstrate why PC's dominate in graphical power. Also I don't see any PS3/Xbox360s doing this in real time rendering http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUWyozQPFCU

While I'm sure Sony will keep the PS3 on the market for 10 years, that doesn't mean that the PS4 won't come out before that time. I expect the Wii successor to be announced at E3 '12, with a release either that year, but likely in 2013. While at E3 2013 MS and Sony will announce their next systems for a release that year, or most likely 2014. The problem I see for Nintendo next gen is they will most likely not focus too much on graphics again, which will leave their system probably only on par or slightly better than the PS3, while the PS4 and NeXbox will be pretty big leaps in graphics.

If Nintendo announces the successor to the Wii this year, then MS will probably follow suit and announce their successor the year after, with Sony then announcing theirs the next year. Nintendo is at a huge advantage in terms of taking the lead next gen with their consoles, while MS will probably try to get their system out there around the same time as Nintendo launches theirs, since MS have probably made more than what they had expected from the 360. Sony on the other hand probably have made little profit from the PS3 if anything at all, so they probably want to keep the PS3 around for a few more years before they bring out a successor. This puts them at a disadvantage again with a late release behind Nintendo and MS.

PS4 will come with blu-ray drive, to allows users to watch movies and play PS3 games on it. Sony will not make us wait beyon 2012 because I will never be able to play 3D in 1080p or many other games for that matter, so PS4 will satisfy that need for me. Sony will never say that PS4 is coming unless it happes only 4-6 months before release, or few months after competition announces theirnnew system. They don't want us to stop buying PS3 and it's games while waiting for PS4. I am eagerly awaiting PS4 but for now I know that 2011 will be Sony's best year in regards to PS3 sales.

Good cuz I won't buy any new consoles anytime soon.. happy with my PS2/3.

MightyGrogg- 360 surpassed MGS4 graphics years ago, it's not that great even at the time what with sub HD, temporal AA and loads of low res textures. UC2 resides at the top with GOW3 and KZ3. Crysis 2 on 360 is still inferior to those games from a graphical POV.

I'm not one to stand in line at launch parties and I usually wait around 1 year before buying a new PlayStation (did that for each PS so far), so even if they release a PS4 I will wait comfortably for a whole year (or more depending on price cuts and major game releases).

good because I don't want the ps4 anytime soon

Well, the PS2 is still selling, even though that technology is way outdated. The XBox 360 and PS3 have just about reached their limits as well. Naughty Dog already stated that Uncharted 3 would push the PS3 as far as it can go. Looking at Crisis 2, I'm aimed to believe them. It seems XBox 360 graphics have caught up to Uncharted 2 and MGSIV graphics this year. As long as Microsoft can squeeze out some quality exclusives for 2011 and 2012, I don't see a new XBox 360 until 2013. Not sure about the Wii though. Nintendo might announce something next year. Don't believe what Sony is saying. They are definitely working on a PS4, but they don't want their competition to know.

There is no need for a PS4 in the next 2-3 years. Take a look at modern PC-games.Most of them don"t look as good as Uncharted2 and Killzone3 and maybe uncharted 3 will be one of the best looking games at the end of the year. Ant the few PCgames that really look better don"t look that much better that people say"wow-i wanna spent money to buy a new consol" I think in 2015 the next generation will appear.At this time the graphics will improve tolook much better to make people buy the next gen.

The PS4 isn't expected anytime soon.....what a load of crap. No company can say that, every console generation is dependent of two things, technology and competitors. If, by any chance, Nintendo or MS announces a new console console at E3, bet your ass that the PS4 will be out in 2012

@Podings...you must really have a unique taste if you really think PS3 doesnt already have any worthwhile games. I wonder what games you think is worthwhile.

Well, they've yet to sell ME a PlayStation, so maybe, if it really lives that long, and gets some worthwhile games, and another redesign, I might be one of the late adopters.

Another important notes about PS4. The release cost of the PS4 is going to be much less than when the PS3 was launched. PS4 will be a cheaper continuation of the PS3, whereas the PS3 was a total and very costly rewrite of the PS2. From what I understand, PS4 will loose a lot of unnecessary hardware too. - BluRay most likely gone (will use media cards or PSN) - 4GB Ram built in to Cell - 4GB V-Ram built into GPU - Wifi A/B/G/N built direct onto PCB - Bluetooth maybe dropped over Sony proprietary System - USB 3.0 Ports - 10/100/1000 Stays - Rear proprietary Camera Port - HDMI to be replaced with Display Port - Sony A/V port dropped - Toslink remains - HD may be dropped, and users allowed to install or save games to external drive - Infrared port will be back - Will use a much smaller case than PS3 From what has been suggested, Sony is cutting what they call unnecessary bulk of the PS4 (Optical drives Etc), and focusing its efforts on really fast hardware. Supposedly with PS4, PSN will allow games to be streamed. Whereas 'Onlive' plays games on a server and sends you the video, PSN will allow you to download part of a game, then buffer the rest as you play. Obviously this is going to require a pretty fast Internet connection. PS4 will be the first console which goes back to the old mainframe days to allow terminal use with minimal hardware.

I_P It has been suggested that along with the Cell and SPE's, the main CPU will also contain a FPGA as an additional hardware programmable aspect of the CPU. This could be used for direct Hardware emulation of the PS2, but personally I think that the new Cell will be easily fast enough to emulate it in software. BTW, the new Cell in developer machines run at 5.33 GHz on 45nm process, but production units will be at 32 or 28nm. I can tell you that with the release of the PS4, PSN will be offering direct downloads of PS2 games as they currently do with PS1 games. Also, the current developer machines use smart card encryption for access (Just like the ones in Satellite TV boxes, or a bigger Sim card) I think Sony may keep this as a direct system to prevent privacy.

@i_p_freely "Important question - will it be backward compatable? PS2 & 3??!" From what Sony has stated, we can expect a PS4 with total PS3 compatibility. As for PS1 and PS2, maybe not.

@Michael-5 "1. The system has peaked, 2011 sales may come close to 2010 sales, but momentum is down." Sales are only 11% down (Q1 2011 vs Q1 2010) and, considering Q1 2010 was right after the latest PS3 price cut, I would say momentum is up. The system is still in the growing phase. Maybe next price cut will generate the life-cycle peak. Anyway, we can expect a long life from PS3. "2. Sony plans a 10 year life-cycle for PS3, and they've stated before that the PS2 had a 10 year life cycle. PS3 came out in 2006, that doesn't mean they expect it to be the primary hardware for all 10 years." Yes, it means. PS2 was a quick success, PS3 doesn't. PS2 hadn't big initial losses, PS3 did. Of course 6 years as primary Sony's home console was ideal to PS2 but it won't be with PS3. PS3 needs more time and it has conditions to last more. X360 was initially planned to last until 2012. Then, with the launch of Kinect, Microsoft annouced that X360 would last until 2015. What can we say about PS3? Being more powerful than X360 and having Blu-ray player, 2016 seems actually short. Moreover, Move and 3D appeared last year and will need some time to establish themselves (I predict 2 years for Move and 4 years for 3D). "3. No more new IP's from Sony. Yea, The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal are coming, but those are old IP's. Everything is becoming sequels, how long can a system last off that?" A lot. Look at the X360. Sequels are already dominating its catalogue for more than 2 years. If PS3 still has big tittles like The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal to have their first appearance in this generation (and I believe more will come in the future), the system seems just a baby. Furthermore, don't forget that PS2 had 3 GTA tittles (III, Vice City and San Andreas) and PS3 still has only one (IV). Similar diagnoses can be made with a lot of other first-party and third-party IPs. PS4 won't come in the near future, trust me. "Also, generally when you see a lot of articles like this, a successor is comming." Long ago, there was a news about a new piece of hardware that would be supposedly used in the PS4 design. Never became true. The truth is that people want to speculate about a next generation few years after the current one has started. It's always like that. The difference it that, in this case, things will take a lot of more time and that kind of thirst will die as the several rumours become lies.

@thetonestarr Go to the first page of comments and it's the first post.

2012 will be PS4 announcement and 2013 will be the release =) PS3 BC should make the PS4 successful =)

@VMEfinn Important question - will it be backward compatable? PS2 & 3??!

I can tell you for a fact that PlayStation 4 will be released on October 31st 2013. To some peoples amazement, it will still feature a Cell Based processor, but will feature 8 main cores, and 8 Spe's. It will feature a much faster video system this time with 4 GB dedicated V-Ram. It may include BluRay 200, but Sony has been discussing dropping the optical drive altogether and using Flash Cards. The development systems (Yes they exist) have a 20GB high speed SSD drive, and space for the owner to add their own standard 3.5" HD. The controllers will drop the analogue sticks, and use high resolution optical pads (similar to those used on Blackberries.) All buttons will now be pressure sensitive. I can also tell you from my Sony sources in Liverpool, UK, that Sony has a prototype NGP with UMD size BluRay drive. This has a 10.4 / 19.8 GB capacity drive. Sony wants to remove it though to save cost. Remember this post. You heard it here first!

The ten year plan only has a chance of working if it's the rulling console. This is the typical PR nonsense we get from the big guys. Next thing you know someone is going to say it isn't maxed out...

Well it's pretty obvious that there's not going to be a successor to the PS3 for at least another 2 years minimum. The days of the 5-year console cycle are long gone, thanks to the ability for Sony and M$ to update their systems with new firmware every so often to enhance the user experience and provide new features. Besides, who's honestly going to spend another $400-$500 on a new console that's only marginally more powerful than whats out there now, with basically the exact same features (online networks and multimedia capabilities) as they have now? Nintendo will probably be the first out of the gate to kick off the "next-gen" of consoles, but even then I wouldn't expect a new system from them any earlier than Holiday 2012. Sony and M$ will probably follow in 2013 or maybe early '14.

PS2 DID have a 10 year life cycle even though the PS3 was released 6 years into that 10 years, doesn't mean the PS2 wasn't still alive and kicking and getting tons of good games released in 2009 and into 2010. Sony has no problem prolonging this generation, they are in a great spot going forward, while Microsoft may have other ideas, forcing us to "move along, nothing more to see here".

@teigaga I completely agree. I think we will here from Nintendo, this year, about their next console. The Next Box and PS4 will follow suite. And yes, the Wii has been showing its aged graphics since it was released. I'm curious as to what they will do next. The 3DS seems very gimmicky, and the handheld market could shift drastically within the next few years. The console market is a little harder to predict. I'm sure the PS3 will be on the market until 2020. I don't think Microsoft will dump the 360 like they did the original Xbox, but I see them taking it off the market around 2016 - 2017. I guess we'll see!

I like how the PS3 is staying in power for the extended period of time. It lets me settle in and beat all the games I like. The only draw back is cost. I think systems should all be cheaper so there is no excuse not to own all 3. MS is smart with the Arcade console, even though most sales do not come from it. Anyhow, I've been hearing about these articles a lot more recently, I expect Sony to announce the PS4 in E3 2012, and release it in fall 2012 or fall 2013. Why? Four reasons, yea.. 1. The system has peaked, 2011 sales may come close to 2010 sales, but momentum is down. 2. Sony plans a 10 year life-cycle for PS3, and they've stated before that the PS2 had a 10 year life cycle. PS3 came out in 2006, that doesn't mean they expect it to be the primary hardware for all 10 years. Worst case, PS4 comes out in 2013, discount sales should support it for 3 years no problem. 3. No more new IP's from Sony. Yea, The Last Guardian and Twisted Metal are coming, but those are old IP's. Everything is becoming sequels, how long can a system last off that? 4. Sony has said in the past that they no longer care about surpassing MS in terms of home console sales. PS3 has been outselling 360 by about 10% or so this year so far, and the gap is growing. Sure MS will have a big fall, but at this rate, if a PS4 came out any later then 2013, PS3 would have a shot at overtaking 360. MS will not allow that during the lifetime of the 360, and Sony has said they don't count on it. Also, generally when you see a lot of articles like this, a successor is comming. I remember reading many of these before the 3DS announcement and PSP2.

In other words: "We are not yet going to announce the planned release date on the PS4 that we are currently working on, because we do not want you to think it is going to release anytime soon, so please go out and continue buying PS3's"

i really hope apple doesnt sneak in theyll fuk everything up

yeah you guys better don't ruin me since I just bought my ps3 last christmas!

early 2014 is the latest i think latest we'll see any next gen console released. I think microsoft and sony want to drag this generation on for another 3-4 years but they will have to respond if nintendo releases a new console in the next 2 years, which i think they should definitely do. I predict wii2: fall 2012 xbox720: fall 2013 ps4: fall 2013/ March 2014

@MetalGamer Clearly someone doesn't know who TheSource is.

@TheSource In that case, you will be disappointed in E3 2012.

We get this article like once a month, we get it, there in no rush for the PS4....

Yay

I don't expect one either.

The PS2 will still be selling by the time they release PS4! Sony FTW!

like i have said for years now. the next gen will start (for sony and probably microsoft) in 2013 or 2014

It is worth keeping in mind that the 10 year cycle is how long SONY plans on supporting PS3 (could be longer if sales hold up), we will probably see a PS4 in 2012 or 2013.

Well if Nintendo and or MS release a new console and they wait a couple years till after they have already lost in the number departments. Not to mention 1st,2nd,23rd parties will be comfortable with the other 2 while trying to figure out the PS4. Doesnt mean it will fail, but lets be honest.

2004: SAN JOSE, Calif. (Reuters) - Sony Corp. believes that its market-leading PlayStation 2 (news - web sites) video game console can continue to sell until 2010, twice as long as most in the industry had assumed was possible, an executive of Sony's U.S. video game unit said on Thursday....

Source, why assume that 10 year cycle = no new console before ten years? Anyway, Nintendo doesn't expect their next console anytime soon, and neither does Microsoft :P :P :P

sony didn't say PS2 will have 10-years life cycle when it launch... just where you heard from that...? can show me TheSource...??

PS2 is heading to its 11th yr and i estimate 2015 will be its final run. we should all know by now PS3 will follow the same plan and may be on the market longer.

There were still PS2 games being released into 2009. Which basically says a 10-year life cycle doesn't necessarily mean 10 years before a new console is released.

Long life to the PS3 o/!!!

Sony said 10-year life cycle with PS2 too and yet: PS2 (Oct 2000) --> PS3 (Oct 2006). I'd imagine we'll be hearing rumblings about PS4 at E3 2012.