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piggychan
posted 17/04/2012, 01:37
well its too similar to forza 3 just with better graphics and more cars on track... 4 is a great game but after about 10+ hours it needs some extra game stuff ... more city tracks would be a welcome... Message | Report |
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tinybigman18
posted 17/04/2012, 12:45
more like a semi hit that needs help to garner its sales always has always will. i mean if it did 3 million so easily shouldnt this be at 3 mil already? Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 16/04/2012, 10:32
@ tinybigman18 - Well they don't have sales graphs on this site anymore, so just take my word for it. Or maybe you can prove it didn't sell 3 million without bundles. Your choice. Regardless, it already passed 2 million and still has solid legs. Most franchises dream of sales like Forza and few do it on a single platform. Forza is a hit, deal with it. Message | Report |
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tinybigman18
posted 16/04/2012, 10:10
@ pug - i'll believe that when i see proof. i still feel that it did about 2 million before it got bundled; and let's just say it did 3 million without it what the hell happened now especially here in america? i expect a bundle sometime around summer to boost numbers again here in the usa. its safe to say forza WILL NEVER garner the fanbase like most of the big franchises. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 16/04/2012, 08:18
@ tinybigman18 - I'm pretty sure Forza 3 did about 3 million without bundles. Forza actually sells better than most console exclusives, so clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Message | Report |
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tinybigman18
posted 15/04/2012, 01:57
i know this will upset some people but i've always said forza true fanbase is around 1-2 million, anything above that was always from bundles. it seems gamers in america really dont support this series. if it wasnt for europe, and bundles this series would probably be dead. and please dont come at me with this better ratings stuff because games like CoD prove ratings dont matter when it comes to sales and what people want. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 10/04/2012, 10:55
@Chris Hu i had a keyboard malfunction dumbass and sales2099 why do you keep on about my age like that has some relevance to your childish argument, metacritic is not a mesurement of quality its a mesurement of fanboyism, lol im a loser really thats quite funny comming from such a pathetic fanboy like you, i own 1 ps3 2 360s and soon 2 pc's, who exactly is the loser they guy constantly defending the 360 or the guy who doesnt give 2 hoots who wins in terms of sales though clearly in this case its gt5 with its lower review score and unfinished game still continues to sell shows you cant always judge a game by its review score, lol but then again try convincing a fanboy of that. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 10/04/2012, 05:22
Genera1MLD....the essay remark was just me saying your putting too much effort in bashing a games comment section to make yourself feel better. Thanks for taking it one step nerdier with 3 posts, and your over age 30 too...... Scores dont matter apparently when your the loser it seems. And funny how sales dont matter to PS3 gamers....except in this scenerio. I talk sales but even I know sales isnt quality. Sales is popularity. But I go by Metacritic for measuring quality. And thats where GT fails now. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 09/04/2012, 04:40
@Genea1MLD The car company is called "Porsche" brush up on your grammar before you add more stupid remarks to this comment board. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 03/04/2012, 04:37
sorry but mr sales2099 you need to google what an essay consists of, in most cases it must contain at least 1000 words minimum all i write is about 999 lol, point is i can say anything and gulable morons like you will read it and the reply like a child, thing is i enjoy pissing you off. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 03/04/2012, 04:33
lol way too many typos, and forza 4 is still incomplete regardle of how much you want to hissyfit about it supposedly being DLC, those porch races were shaded out from the start so obviously they were supposed to be there from the start but couldnt thanks to EA, the simple fact is microsoft should have made the porch pack free but typically there charging for it making the game with DLC cost way more than it should, and you are wrong on 2 counts about both forza and GT. GT was in development for 4 years however GT5P came out in 2007 so there was only a 3 year gap not 5 years, and the next forza game is out this year called forza horizons. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 03/04/2012, 04:26
lol @sales2099 god you are so gulable, i dont give 2 hoots weather a game repeadedly scores whatever that plays 0 relevance when i buy a game, when the forza franchise has sold more than 64 million or sold more than GT then you can say GT in inferiour, again trying to win an argument using review scores (as you cant use sales) yet what it your argument on youtube, sorry but dont you find it just a little bit funny going on about reviews when every sony console has been rated higher than microsofts yet your telling me to deal with it, looks take a look in the mirror pal. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 02/04/2012, 03:49
Genera1MLD.....your reasoning for Forza 4 being incomplete is laughable. DLC adds to a game. The GT5 spec 2 update really was a necessity needed to patch what was an embarassment of a launch title. But alas, your the 30+ year old gamer writing essays on a games page you don't even like, trying to convince yourself that GT5 is better. Kinda weird given your age... and you insult me lol. GT sells more, but Turn 10's ability to make games 3x faster and get scores consistently in the 90's makes your favourite game franchise inferior. Deal. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 01/04/2012, 04:04
so coolbeans are you telling me then that forza 4 shouldnt have been released untill porche was in the game, i was wondering why there were boxes in carer mode shaded out that once at level 50 were still shaded out, dont you think its a bit silly to say GT5 was unfinished or rushed for release when forza 4 is incomplete 7 months after release and that in total costs over £80 (ive already payed £80 for forza 4, season pass and collectors ed) so now i have to pay £20 to get the rest of the game that should have been there from release, a bit hypocritcal to go on about GT5 being incomplete or rushed when forza 4 is still incomplete! Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 01/04/2012, 03:45
lol sales2099 im not bothered by what you think, while you are one of the worst fanboys not only on this site but pretty much all of the web, and your videos on youtube just fail, its 2012 no one give a sh*t about console sales (ive bought 4 360's and 3 ps3's and the point of that, cause i can) and only fanboy give a crap about review scores, ive got forza 4 in my game collection, ive scored 800gs on it though its bored me to death trying to finnish carer mode, you say GT5 is a slug fest only its a lot more fun to complete that forza 4 (still got 1 more enduance race to go). again ill go by SRT or SRD puely as they wait till the game is more stable when they do a review however coolbeans ans sales needs to understand the difference between a game recieving updates every month vs a game getting updated every year, GT5 has had several updates every month since it came out not 1 update a year later (obviously showing complete lack of knowlage or research). just 1 question, did turn 10 patch forza after all the reviewers copys had been returned as completing world tour mode on forza 4 wasnt even challenging, you could finnish a race in last place and still continue on to the next race and even get the 10 years achievement without even trying, graphicly it looked the same as forza 3 just with a bit of extra shine on the cars and tracks so either the reviewers were payed back handers from turn 10 or microsoft as there are still plenty of flaws in forza 4 i still dont understand how these preoblems were overlooked. Message | Report |
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Riku148
posted 28/03/2012, 07:59
sales2099 you are wrong about ''quality'' GT5 has much better physics and graphics and driving is also more realistic in gt5 because every car's handling is different but in forza they just feel pretty much the same....forza is similar to like need for speed shift and that's just not so good...and bytheway call of duty is much better than battlefield because of 60fps versus bf3's 30fps Message | Report |
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pitzy272
posted 28/03/2012, 05:08
Am I missing something? How (or why?) did F4 sell over 500,000 copies in the UK alone? Forza 3 sold no where near that much. I know they recruited the Top Gear dude as a narrator this time around, but no chance that that could multiply sales by a factor of almost 20. I don't even see how bundling could've been responsible for this. Anyone know something I don't? Just curious. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 28/03/2012, 04:32
lol fake General, scores mean nothing only when your the loser it seems :P. I will say it again. You are on this page because your trying to convince yourself that your favourite game is worth a damn. It is, but only in sales. Quality wise Forza has surpassed GT.....and did it 3x as fast! Again, only a fool would insult Turn 10 for their efforts while praising Polyphany Digital for making you wait 5.5 years for a grindfest with PS2 models......and then waiting another year to give the game the patches it needed day 1. It seems GT5 is like COD and Forza is like Battlefield. COD sells more, but many gamers see Battlefield as the better franchise. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 27/03/2012, 12:53
@sales2099 90+ scores means nothing when compared to sales, isnt that 1 of your pathetic arguments on youtube 'last place for life' lol hypocrite much, just face facts without metacritic in your defence (and who actually goes by metacritc when chosing a new game apart from moronic fanboys like sales2099) your argument would fall flat on its face, try using SRT (simracedaily) there review is much better FACT they waited for updates and patches after release rather than pre release and did the same with GT5, rather unsupprisingly it too scored over 90%, reviewed and rated by real sim racing fans not retarded console fanboys. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 26/03/2012, 05:59
Keep crying. Trying to write a novel saying that Forza doesnt deserve its praise. I could easily say GT5 is a boring grindfest with mostly PS2 cars. The games deserve their scores. Forza wins in frequency and quality and GT5 wins in sales. Only a fool would insult Turn 10 for making games 3 TIMES FASTER with all 90+ scores. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 19/03/2012, 07:45
forza 5 will release on the xbox 360, seams as microsoft refuses to upgrade to the next gen of consoles ie much better graphics, games that are 1080p native minimum with 16xAA and 16xAF ect rather than current gen sub 720p upscaled to 1080p with 0-2xAA 0xAF while at the same time also refusing to make games bigger. forza 4 suffers from a lot of bugs, after the initial wow it looks better has worn off after just 5 minuits people soon realise its just forza 3 with a bit more shine and a few more cars on track, it also doesnt take long to realise that most of the races required to complete career mode make the game very repetative and gets boring very quickly, if metacritic scores were subjected to having to play the games for a weeksolid before collecting the review scores the forza franchise would only get 70% rather than its 90% scores. Message | Report |
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blue7x7
posted 18/03/2012, 04:46
I really don't understand why they are annualizing this franchise. I guess 2.5- 3million sales is good enough for them now it gives them a nice profit. Since that is what it will most likely do lifetime. I really thought they were going to give this franchise a rest I didn't buy Forza 4 because I still haven't finished 3 it's such a long game. But it seems I will just skip this one and wait for forza 5 which apparently is releasing in 2013. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 14/03/2012, 03:54
@sales2099 lol 'being the real GeneralMLD' you said it your self on youtube you only make those videos to poke at fanboys yet here you are crying like a baby, grow up you stupid little child. Message | Report |
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viewsonic9
posted 12/03/2012, 01:44
@sales2099 GT5 was a flop? Seriously? Calling a game that's so far sold over 7.2m a flop is some astonishingly desperate fanboyism lol Message | Report |
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IEATBABIES
posted 06/03/2012, 05:33
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IEATBABIES
posted 06/03/2012, 03:50
Since it's the best thing since Christ it would have had 4x as much, but truthfully it doesn't it's an over hyped game with poor sales. It was only bought by Microsoft fan boys to brag about. Enjoy your milked franchise. Up next Forza: Kinect lol. I can predict another awful game with poor sales. Forza = Fad Gran Tursmo = life style. Hardly anyone plays Forza 4 and GT6 is always packed. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 02/03/2012, 06:42
As the REAL GeneralMLD you are disapointing me with this Forza 4 bashing. In the end, Forza has released 90+ metacritic games 3x as fast as the review flop that is GT5. GT5 sold more individually, thats about all it has now. But I love the role reversal. PS3 fanboys typically avoid sales and refer to a game for its quality, but here is where sales is their #1 priority LOL. Fact is GT5 was a flop and the Forza franchise just keeps gettign better....guess some people cant deal. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 27/02/2012, 12:49
Really hate this game with a strong passion. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 26/02/2012, 01:06
so forza 4 really doing well, last month it had sold 2 million and in just 4 weeks its sold minus 200k :s, ok looks like VGC is confusing everyone. at least it looks like a few of us arnt living in the clouds. Message | Report |
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man-bear-pig
posted 18/02/2012, 03:27
Good game, but got old quickly. Message | Report |
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man-bear-pig
posted 18/02/2012, 03:27
Good game, but got old quickly. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 17/02/2012, 05:50
how the f can forza match GT in sales, oh dear another moron trod on thin ice and fell into the fanboy pond. no forza game this gen has matched the sales of any GT game on the ps3 or the ps2 or even the ps1, im sure if i pulled out the actual sales of every full production GT game forzas sales would be half or less than half of GT's sales (GT1,GT2,GT3 A-Spec,GT4 and GT5) if you based forzas sales like this Forza 1 vs GT1, Forza 2 vs GT2, Forza 3 vs GT3 A-Spec ect you already know the result. now michael-5 where did you get the idea forza 4 is the best sim this gen (a review score from metacritic no doubt, you sir are a hypocrite) Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 17/02/2012, 05:41
qualityly difference yep, try completing world tour mode on forza using nothing but the hire driver, yep youll still complete it, im sorry but forza is not the best sim its just laughable you can even call forza a sim, quality and brand names are for fools wtf is wrong with some people, complete contradiction there michael-5 'forza' is a brand name and by saying its the best sim this gen you say that by quality yet you say brand name's and quality is for fools so by that you acknowlage the fact you called your self a fool lol. the only way forza 4 could get those 3 million more sales is when turn 10 release's forza 4 ultimate collection just like they did with forza 3 and by doing so they managed to piss off nearly the entire fanbase who payed for every DLC pack only to find out a year later the could have got it a shit load cheaper. i find it hilarious when people make claims like forza 4 is the best sim this gen, where are the rally stages, where are the karts, where is the weather effects, where is the night time driving, where are the endurance races lol you really think forza is the best sim this gen you really are barking up the fanboy tree arnt you, did you completly forget about the PC racing sims or were you to busy with your fanboy parade stick waving it around completly oblivious there are far better more realistic racing sims than forza 4 out there and by far forza is not a contender for a racing sim, its more of a driving sim/arcade racer. go ahead wait another year for those 3 million GT5 is still selling new copies all the time plus no doubt there will be a psv GT some time in the future, sorry but untill forza grows up and actually takes racing seriously it will never be as good as GT (lose rewind, get rid of the shiny shiny cars and tracks increase the difficulty making it a lot tougher to win races early into the game making it more challenging and lastly ditch all those arcade like driving aids). Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 17/02/2012, 01:44
I think Forza 4 will get another 3 million sales, that should make the sales difference between 3 Forza's and 3 GT's almost nothing. Good observation, surprised for being a smaller name, Forza can still match GT in sales. Guess the quality difference got to people. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 17/02/2012, 01:41
Compensating? and people say I write a lot.Forza 4 is still the best Sim this gen, sales =/= quality, and brand names are for fools. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 16/02/2012, 12:50
lol 5 days ago forza 4 had sold 2 million then 4 days ago that changed to 1.95 million and now its 1.94 million, come on VG make up your minds, its screwing around the comments though it still doesnt change any thing, GT has still sold more games this gen then forza isnt that right sales2099, looks like forza has now sold in total, thats forza 2,3 and 4 10.88 million vs the 14.06 million that GT5P, GT (psp) and GT5 has sold, sales2099 dont bother comming here with that metacritic score as metacritic is for fanboys (care to argue about halo wars 82% on metacritic yet official xbox 360 mag gave it 90%, hmmm), why dont you just face facts and admit you lost with your pathetic argument, you completly failed and the only come back youve got is metacritic lol, i can only suggest you get off the fanboy band waggon and get your self a ps3 and stop this crying. forza 4 is good but its not that good as a simulator, it still has lots of arcade aspects stuck in its physics and that world tour mode was just pathetic, whats the point of it when it didnt matter if you came first or last you still progressed to the next race :S and you think that deserves 92%, forza 4 doesnt present a challenge even a simpleton arcade only game can quite easily complete it, yes im now over 40% complete in the carrer mode but then all i have to do is set it to easy and use a hire driver and the games complete, rewind is completely pointless and again very much arcade, was GT5 so hard so old school that all the people who reviwed it gave it low scores cause it takes longer to complete ???, makes no sence to me id rather have a game that challenging and hard to complete than have a game too easy and beaten in hours or a few days than weeks or months. the maths of forzas sales are easy to work out, cause its so easy to complete it hit the preowned market quicker than GT5 and as GT5 was and still is selling very well preowned prices for GT5stayed pretty close to the retail version, forza 4 on the other hand hasnt held its values and as such preowned copies will always sell better than the full retail game thats why its sales have slowed so much. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 11/02/2012, 07:21
actually there have been 3 GT games this gen, 2 on the ps3 'GT5P and GT5' and 1 on the psp 'GT' in total thats 14.06 million sold since the 360 launched so basicly sales2099 you arguments was completely worthless and that metacritic score is an average from multiple sorces but not all sorces and likewise forza 4's score again is taken from multiple scores and doesnt represent a true score of the game though if you think it does then your very sad, ive never gone by reviews for any game, ill decide for my self if the games shit and i dont think forza deserves the 90% score its had as it just doesnt quite cut it. GT5 likewise doesnt quite cut it however what it lacks in customisation it more than makes up for it in content maybe thats somthing you failed to acknowlage while you were to busy trying to win your to be honest quite pathetic little fanboy battle, i like forza 4 ive even got 38.6% carrer completion however using a score from a website that averages review scores is a little weak to be honest, its like (off topic) arguing about halo wars (82% on metacritic) if you found a website with a higher score no doubt you would use that. so just face facts you completely failed with your sales argument, you can only win by using metacritic however who actually uses metacritic when buying a new game (forza 2 bought at launch 'diddnt even know about metacritic' forza 3 bought at launch again 'didnt know about metacritic' GT5P,GT5 bought at launch again 'didnt know about metacritic' so im guessing the main people who knew about metacritic were or are fanboys. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 10/02/2012, 10:29
sorry sales2099 but i hate to break it to ya but forza has sold 10.94 million combined this gen, GT5 and GT5P combined have sold 11.25 million so how has forza out sold GT this gen, you think its fair to use every forza game this gen to win an argument only your calculation was over and the fact you used 3 games vs just 1, ive done a fair comparison using all retail versions of GT which has sold more than forza, GT gamers mnay have had to wait but just for dedication PD are still supporting the game making improvements all the time, im sure if it was re reviewed now it would easily score over 90% however if you simply go by review scores for games your an idiot, now can we all just get back on topic and forget comparisons to GT as we already know you've lost that argument. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 10/02/2012, 02:53
fpr f sake sales2099 will you just shut up, your argument is pathetic i dont give a rats arse what metacritic gave GT5 its still a bloody good game and using 3 games to try to win an argument about sales is just stupid, i like forza 4 however i dont like morons like you using poor excuses to try to win an argument, time to face facts GT5 has sold more than any version of forza this gen FACT its one of the playstations biggest franchises where as the xbox's biggest franchise is halo or gears of war not forza motorsports, now you say GT5 flopped sorry but how does 7.22 million = flopped, time to review you account maybe. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 09/02/2012, 01:26
F2 sold 4 million. F3 sold 5 million. F4 sold 2 million....so far. 11 > 7 million. See normally it would be considered unfair to use 3 games against 1.....but thing is PD took so damn long to make GT5 that 3 Forzas came out in the same timeframe. GT5 sales are impressive but the time gap makes its sales inferior to Forzas this gen. Forza kept gamers happy, GT5 made them wait and flopped. Not to mention......every forza is over 90 on metacritic....so the quality crown was lost years ago from GT. Nuff said. Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 07/02/2012, 10:02
shipped or sold it makes no difference, to simply use the total shipped or sold vs a game that only came out last year is to be honest pathetic, i know this is a sales site ect but as an act of desperation why say oh GT5 has sold 7.22 million while forza 4 has only sold 2 million, its like running a 100 mentre sprint 2 weeks after everyone else and then the guy who came first boasting about beating you lol, why dont you guys just get the weeks/months sales of forza4/GT5 in the weeks after launch and compare that result rather than using total sales, im pretty sure GT5 will be higher but given this is the 4th forza game since its incarnation back in 2005 its popularity is getting bigger all the time. Message | Report |
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ZaneWane
posted 07/02/2012, 12:44
7.22 gran turismo sales are shipped Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 05/02/2012, 03:23
god would the morons just stop, for 1 thing GT has sold 64+ million games total not that there are 64+ million people who play GT, second of all metacritic is just a collection of reviews averaged out not 100% accurate and i couldnt care less if the recent GT game has lower scores its still a fantastic racing sim. lastly 7.22 million copies of GT5 sold to date vs 2 million for a game that only been available for just over 3 months isnt really a fair argument is it now, seriously GT has been around since 1998 where as forza has only been aound since 2005 its still gaining an audience unlike others that have tried but failed namely NFSS1 and 2. and to date the latest NFS has been the least popular. given time forza will continue to attract more gamers to it like GT did in the late 90's and early 2000's, you both need to realise forza is getting established as if it wasnt turn 10 wouldnt continue to produce sequels, now can you both just drop this quite pathetic bitching as you are both very imature and if it carrys on i wont hesitate to contact the sites moderators as you quite clearly continue to ignore the sites terms which you agreed to. Message | Report |
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IEATBABIES
posted 04/02/2012, 02:36
sales2099: Forza 4 wishes it could get 7.22 million. See what I did thur? Forza 4 has only broke 2.00 mill in sales even only now. GT5 is 7.22 million. GT franchise is 64.27 million Forza series 12.07 As you can see you ignorant American fanboy, you kids only wish Turn 10 can achieve icon status as Polyphony has and the sales they've earned. It will NEVER happen. Polyphony and the other 64.27 million satisfied users say hi. Only game I see being played still on the Xbox 360 is the current Halo or Gears of War 3 and even those games are dying. It's like Xbox 360 fanboys only buy games to be cool and brag and buy into the latest fad. Forza = fad Gran Turismo = lifestyle Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 04/02/2012, 07:54
GT5 wishes it could get into the 90's club on metacritic Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 04/02/2012, 04:44
@ Mr Puggsly - yes im aware this website focuses on sales but is it also a place where morons can hissy fit about a game selling well, just cause it's not on their favorite console or that they hate that particular console doesnt need them to troll the rival game and insinuate its sales are poor and it only sell well cause its bundled, bundled or not its still the game thats selling these bundles, ie the wireless wheel motion controller bundle £60 for the game and the controller ment at the time people saw an oportunity to get the game cheaper and sell the wireless wheel at cex ect. so far 2 million copys have been shifted, bundled or not thats still impressive. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 31/01/2012, 04:26
@ Genera1MLD - You're aware this is a website focused on sales, right? Message | Report |
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Genera1MLD
posted 30/01/2012, 07:17
omg would you fanboys all just sht the F up, you go on about sales like your lifes all depend on it, now serioisly who the F is trolling who when this rather unsupprisngly is an xbox 360 exclusive title, its not on the ps3 (and for the record unless you were very blind GT5 was also heavily bundled, just cause its not bundled now doesnt mean it never was) now can we all just drop the stupid and childish fanboy debate and get on with our lives, thank you. Message | Report |
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Rockyb
posted 22/01/2012, 01:34
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Chris Hu
posted 20/01/2012, 03:03
@mitlar37 Actually Uncharted 3 was bundled from day one. Also Forza 4 is available in bundles in the UK appearently but those are very limited bundles and sales from bundles will not significantly boost sales number until it ends up in the holiday 2012 bundle which will add over a million copies. Turn 10 will still make a nice profit on all those bundled copies since a lot of those people will buy DLC for the game. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 20/01/2012, 03:03
@mitlar37 Actually Uncharted 3 was bundled from day one. Also Forza 4 is available in bundles in the UK appearently but those are very limited bundles and sales from bundles will not significantly boost sales number until it ends up in the holiday 2012 bundle which will add over a million copies. Turn 10 will still make a nice profit on all those bundled copies since a lot of those people will buy DLC for the game. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 19/01/2012, 04:58
A lot of people crap on Forza because of heavy bundling. But it should be noted Forza is still a top selling exclusive. Many of Sony's IPs struggle to do 1-2 million. Forza 4 is going to easily pass that. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 19/01/2012, 04:52
Nice, going to hit 2 million soon. Should be able to hit 3 million without bundles. Message | Report |
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Cheah_dresta
posted 19/01/2012, 11:16
WOW at sales2099....You and your excuses along with this game are just pathetic its so fitting at the same time ironic your defending this pathetic sales using pathetic excuses when your name is about all about sales AAAHAHAHA Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 18/01/2012, 08:07
Plus guys, dont forget this game was illegially pirated about a million times. Even if the Forza fanbase is half that of GT.....thats a major victory considering how the GT brand had a monopoly last gen. And again, 3 90+ rated Forzas in the same time to make ONE 84 rated GT game = fail no matter how you slice it. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 18/01/2012, 08:02
hey reportme hows uncharted 3 doing against Gears 3? LOL. It hasnt been bundled yet, so 2 million on its own is a nice profit. With 3 million in bundles this year will make it a bigger success. But most of all, I love how people like you forget how Forza is rated better then GT5 in actual quality. Hows that 84 on metacritic LOL Message | Report |
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Reportme
posted 16/01/2012, 01:36
Who let the Bundles Out!? Who let the Bundles Out!? Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Terrible Sales Uncharted Came weeks after and has already surpased 3 Million Mean while this Trash is sitting at 1.94m Microsoft and Turn Ten Can Count their Lucky Stars that this is bundled so Hardcore in Eurpoe I wonder If they even make back the cost of Development with all the Copies they give away. They Must think Forza is a Charity Program Message | Report |
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Rockyb
posted 16/01/2012, 01:11
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Rockyb
posted 16/01/2012, 01:11
this should be multiplatform , without bundles forza sales would be so low Message | Report |
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Reportme
posted 16/01/2012, 01:01
Rofl! Message | Report |
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Reportme
posted 16/01/2012, 12:59
Who let the Bundles Out!? Who let the Bundles Out!? Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Woof Terrible Sales Uncharted Came weeks after and has already surpased 3 Million Mean while this Trash is sitting at 1.94m Microsoft and Turn Ten Can Count their Lucky Stars that this is bundled so Hardcore in Eurpoe I wonder If they even make back the cost of Development with all the Copies they give away. They Must think Forza is a Charity Program Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 13/01/2012, 08:01
Ok maybe not 2 years, but you get my point ;) Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 13/01/2012, 07:51
Over 7million in just over a year without bundles v 5million being bundled for 2 years? Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 12/01/2012, 06:27
@zim you obviously haven't played gt5 have you so we won't go into any details.. You're obviously a devout forza fan so there's no point really. If u think forza is a sales competitor then you must just be trolling. Major competition? Please do explain. It's like comparing halo to killzone. Message | Report |
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Zim
posted 12/01/2012, 02:16
@thehusbo and no amount of dev time will have PD make a better game lol. You combined two games so I thought that's what we were doing? Combining games? But suddenly you realise oh wait Forza is MAJOR competition to GT and panic. Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 11/01/2012, 01:56
Lol @zim adding 3 forza games to compete with one full game and a demo. Whatever way you try and spin it forzas sales will Never compete. No amount of bundling will change that and you know it. Message | Report |
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osamanobama
posted 11/01/2012, 01:51
A $40 demo? well i guess thats better than selling people a $60 demo. when people could just wait 2 years and get the full version (Forza 4) instead of the demo version with less features and cars (Forza 3) Message | Report |
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Zim
posted 10/01/2012, 03:48
Lol @thehusbo adding 2 seperate GT games. If you want to do that then in the time it took PD to make GT5 and prologue, turn 10 made Forza 2,3,4. Combined sales 10.89million =) Very close sales and better reviews. I would say incredibly comparable. Message | Report |
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Nsanity
posted 08/01/2012, 03:29
@mitlar37: Well said. Message | Report |
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thehusbo
posted 07/01/2012, 09:13
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thehusbo
posted 07/01/2012, 09:12
@1.89 by itself? U can't even get a 360. In the uk without getting forza. This game is already being bundled.. And don't even begin to compare grab turismo sales to forza. Gt5+prologue= over 11 million. If gt5 was bundled the same as forza games it would be over 10 million. If gt6 was to release then it would sell forza 4 current sales in 1 week. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 07/01/2012, 05:48
2 million by Itself. Your looking at another 2-3 million in 2012 with standalone and bundle sales. All in all it shows the progression of Forza gen over gen. Better sales then Forza 1, all 90+ on metacritic, and 3 games for 360.....compared to ONE GT game this gen, which got a 84 LOL Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 07/01/2012, 05:46
2 Million on its own Steam! Also guys if you look up the Torrent stats this game has been illegally pirated 800k. Sure it doesnt count but goes to show you the number of people playing this game. Message | Report |
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rossoner
posted 06/01/2012, 10:12
Are u defending forza after we all know what happened with tens of forza 3 bundles?Here in eu there is standalone bundle, bundle with kinect+360,( same price), bundles with numerous games(bf3, fifa, nfs), bundle with kinect and adventures....lol, its not bundled, yea Message | Report |
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mitlar37
posted 05/01/2012, 05:07
And I don't recall any of MS big franchises getting bundled less than a month after release. And I'm not talking the limited edition bundles where you paid a $100 premium. I'm talking free. Message | Report |
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mitlar37
posted 05/01/2012, 05:03
Funny I haven't seen a Forza 4 bundle yet, whereas Uncharted 3 has been bundled since it's 4th week after release. Heck, you can't even buy a $299 320g ps3 Without Uncharted3 - lol. Message | Report |
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dsage01
posted 03/01/2012, 03:13
Micheal-5: GT5 was defintly not frontloaded. At least in North America. I had seen so many commericals for Halo, Call of Duty and other big games that were releasing in the holiday season but not a single commercial for GT5. And add the fact that it had much more competition than Forza 3 or 4. Heck Forza 3 couldn't manage to sell 200k in its first month despite massive advertising. Forza 4 is just following the same path. Admit it Forza is in the catagory of a few other franchises (LBP, Resistance, Fable etc.) that don't sell unless it is bundled massively. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 31/12/2011, 02:23
OkeyDokey - You do realize GT5 took 5 years to develop, so hype was huge, and it released on US Black Friday? Sales were extremely front loaded, since the first 10 weeks GT5 only managed to gain 50% more sales. Forza 4 will likely gain over 100% of it's current sales now before they start bundling. For a relatively new franchise, on a genre that popular not in the home consoles main region, this is pretty good. Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 27/12/2011, 04:56
OkeyDokey - Hah! Even without bundles it still out performs most of Sony's exclusives. Forza is a hit. Message | Report |
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Nsanity
posted 27/12/2011, 12:40
@OkeyDokey: Nothing without its bundles? the same could be said about few other but i would rather not mention just incase some people might cry. Message | Report |
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posted 26/12/2011, 02:11
GT5 first week in the US > Forza 4's first 10 weeks in the US. This is pretty shocking since I thought this was the region where Forza was doing the most damage. This franchise is really nothing without its bundles. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 24/12/2011, 10:25
Ok lets degrade the franchise further by counting sales of a $40 demo to millions of needy suckers lol. It amazes me how people defend PD ripping them off instead of actually getting off their lazy asses and finished GT5 sooner. Not to mention quality wise GT is officially dethroned. Message | Report |
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Colocho
posted 24/12/2011, 08:51
@sales 2099 - "All Forza Sales this gen easily surpass GT5 Sales"... well, not really, if you count GT5 prologue. In fact, if you add those sales, GT5 outsold all 3 Forza games combined!!! DAAMmmmmm, GT5 is Beast!! Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 24/12/2011, 06:40
vgking. Well GT brand power is still alive and well, but Forza is chipping away at it, plus GT is killing itself with how slow every installment takes to release lol. But 2 million sales on its own with 3 million of bundled sales in 2012 is by no means "low sales". No doubt the game allready made a profit with its current sales. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 24/12/2011, 06:38
Guys bare in mind this is the THIRD Forza entry this gen. All Forza sales this gen easily surpass GT5 sales. 3 AAA reviewed games that don't keep us gamers waiting. GT5 took 5.5 years and was considered a flop. The Forza franchise sold more then GT did this gen Message | Report |
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VGKing
posted 23/12/2011, 07:19
Sales are really low despite amazing reviews. The racing genre just ins't popular in America or the Xbox 360. This is something Microsoft should try and change next-gen. Try and bring over the PS3 Gran Turismo fans. Message | Report |
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enrageorange
posted 23/12/2011, 07:17
Gears as a franchise has outsold Gran turismo this gen, Uncharted has as well, and Forza will soon too. And please don't get started on bundling. Uncharted and Resistance series have been bundled just as much as Fable and Forza. Basically the only exclusive that has sold over 2mil to not get very heavily bundled this gen is the gears of war franchise. Message | Report |
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Blink7
posted 23/12/2011, 09:45
what MS exclusive sells better? is that why alan wake barely made it over a 1m? what about crackdown 2? metro 2033? and this? so much better my ass....nothing wrong with what i said tho this game just cant compete with GT sales, your reply isn't even remotely relevant to anything at all.. Message | Report |
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NintendoFanDj
posted 23/12/2011, 02:39
woop sorry for double sentence lol Message | Report |
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NintendoFanDj
posted 23/12/2011, 02:38
@Blink7 why would you say that. Microsoft exclusive games sells better than all Sony exclusives. Stay on the bright side at least the only one FM4 and GT5 has two GT5 Prologue and GT5.ht side. At least there isn't two Forza Motorsport 4 like GT5 Message | Report |
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Blink7
posted 22/12/2011, 03:58
WOW just cant compete with GT I guess. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 22/12/2011, 06:31
MS won't make a spring price cut. Their sales are heavily loaded in the holidays, they will make the price cut at E3 at earliest when they announce a successor console. Message | Report |
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Carl
posted 22/12/2011, 03:17
This is probably going to be bundled around March/April time, when the 360 gets a pricecut. Kinda like the Forza 3/Halo ODST bundle we saw. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 20/12/2011, 03:12
should do 2 million on its own steam before being bundled. Thats a success no matter how u slice it. Message | Report |
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blue7x7
posted 19/12/2011, 11:15
It's not selling bad people have to realize forza games have long legs which it looks like it has right now. Also I'm sure some forza fans are not buying this one like me I didn't buy it because I still haven't finished Forza 3 it's such a huge game. I think MS needs to wait at least 3 years until they release a new one or wait until next gen people seem to be have a little fatigue of the franchise it seems. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 18/12/2011, 10:46
Sorry I said Spiderman-Ultimate Alliance, but that was bundled with Forza 2 not 3. I think Forza 3 was just bundled with ODST and Alan Wake. Message | Report |
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ylowbstard
posted 18/12/2011, 10:25
Deserves way more sales. But I guess a lot of people had Forza 3 and didn't feel like buying the next iteration right away. Forza 5 (inevitably) will do much better. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 16/12/2011, 07:16
I wish they had global sales here. On the weekly sales page Forza 4 sold 149k, not 126k (came out on the same week in all regions right?) Still, if Forza 4 keeps it up, it looks to have stronger legs then Forza 3, but just. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 16/12/2011, 07:14
Yes there were huge boosts in sales, 1 million boosts is nothing to laugh at. Look at Spiderman-Ultimate Alliance (one of the bundled games) could it have reached over 2 million like that without bundles? However even during the time it was bundled, Ultimate Edition also made a huge spike in sales, and like I said you can't bundle more units then those sold in total during the bundles. I mean Forza 3 sales are higher in Americas then EMEAA, without the ODST Bundle, how could that have been possible? (Forza was more heavily bundled in Americas then Europe). Also before bundles Forza 3 was selling 10k a week, add a boost from holidays and Ultimate edition, and 500k on it;s own accord is very plausible. Message | Report |
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VXIII
posted 16/12/2011, 06:45
Forza 3 was bundled from the get go in Europe , also had a bundle with Halo ODST in the USA , we can't really know how much it sold on its own by now. http://www.aggrogate.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/xbox360spring3.jpg . http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/948030_142123_front.jpg Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 16/12/2011, 02:45
Really nice legs in Europe should sell over 2 million before it ends up in bundles. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 15/12/2011, 08:53
pezus, if you actually calculate it. Forza 3 sold 4 million without bundles. For the duration it was bundled it sold 1.6 million, and during that time Ultimate edition came out (which added at least 100k on it's own). If the game sold 0 shelf units it couldn't have been bundled more then 1.5 million, and I seriously doubt the game didn't sell 500k in the 8 month window it was bundled for. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 15/12/2011, 08:51
Sold 5k better then on Forza 3's equivalent week (December 11th) last year. Could end up with similar numbers, if not a touch higher (depends on legs) Message | Report |
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mitlar37
posted 13/12/2011, 02:13
uc2 wouldn't hvae reached 5mill without heavy bundling and the same will go for 3. Message | Report |
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mitlar37
posted 13/12/2011, 02:06
Uc3 was bundled 3 weeks after release and sony fans like to point out how much it's selling - so why can't ms fans do the same? Message | Report |
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fauzman
posted 11/12/2011, 05:46
If only MS promoted this game as much as they do shooters (Gears). An opportunity lost, especially in EMEAA though it still does get good sales. Message | Report |
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x_DMX_x
posted 10/12/2011, 12:05
Exclusive Game* Message | Report |
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x_DMX_x
posted 10/12/2011, 12:04
sales2099:"lets not forget how it constantly manages to trump GT in metascores :)"Lets also not forget how LittleBigPlanet trumps every Xbox 360 game in existence according to metacritic/metascroes lmao. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 09/12/2011, 10:06
This car should have been included in the game. It's stupid I have to buy the entire DLC for the 1 Lamborghini. Every other car is buyable individually. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 09/12/2011, 10:04
For the equivalent week, Forza 4 numbers are right up to Forza 3's. Compared Week 8 for FM4 to Week 6 for FM3, the difference is only 6k. (remember FM4 released 2 weeks earlier). Sales could reach the 4.2 million Forza 3 is at without bundles. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 08/12/2011, 01:26
Better sales this week in the US then on Black Friday nice legs. Message | Report |
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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007
posted 07/12/2011, 12:43
Forza Motorsport 4 was better in my opinion. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 05/12/2011, 09:06
What a shitty car pack. So far the only car worth downloading is the Lambo, and $9 for 1 good car is too much.. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 05/12/2011, 09:05
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mornelithe
posted 03/12/2011, 06:44
Gran Turismo 5 Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 03/12/2011, 05:02
Smaller then expected Black Friday boost in the US I guess they had a limted amount of copies available. Still should have decent legs past Christmas is pretty much on sale every week now in different locations. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 30/11/2011, 01:43
1.5 million this year. Next year is bundle time. As long as it can sell that much on its own its a success in its own right. But thats just one side.....lets not forget how it constantly manages to trump GT in metascores :) Message | Report |
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Mr Puggsly
posted 26/11/2011, 01:05
@ Michael-5 - There have been a lot of strong games this holiday, so not getting lost in the fold shows this is still a strong franchise. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 19/11/2011, 05:55
Should get a nice sales boost in the Americas in two weeks pretty much every store has it on sale during Black Friday. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 17/11/2011, 01:09
Game isn't selling as well as Forza 3 did. Is it because Forza 3 was bundled with ODST the year of release, because FM4 released earlier in the year then FM3, or it's just not selling well? Who knows, lets judge after the holidays. Message | Report |
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DeathPool
posted 12/11/2011, 12:07
this game WILL only manage to do 5m if its bundled like crazy other wise its just a wet dream. Message | Report |
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enrageorange
posted 11/11/2011, 08:59
good sales in emeaa. Everywhere else not so much. I hope they don't bundle it. I want to see what a forza game can actually sell without bundles. This looks like it could reach 2-3mil without bundles if it picks up during the holidays. Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 11/11/2011, 06:01
tracking under FM3 in US and JP, still a bit above in EU but the gap is tightening... but FM3 was released 10 days closer to christmas... I don't see FM4 improving that much against FM3... 5M LTD I guess, max 6M. Message | Report |
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Fei-Hung
posted 09/11/2011, 04:43
game was released during a start of a gaming avalanche - rage, BF3, UC3, GeoW3, ACR, Batman AC and others. This will probably pick up sales when bundled and when it drops in price. Message | Report |
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Fei-Hung
posted 09/11/2011, 04:43
game was released during a start of a gaming avalanche - rage, BF3, UC3, GeoW3, ACR, Batman AC and others. This will probably pick up sales when bundled and when it drops in price. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 08/11/2011, 08:10
@Solid-Strark all the Holiday bundles are already out and the star wars kinnect bundle comes after that. The earliest I can see this game in a bundle is march of next year. Message | Report |
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Solid-Stark
posted 05/11/2011, 05:23
Played this today, pretty good. Start bundling. Message | Report |
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Jexy
posted 04/11/2011, 08:47
I have never owned a Forza game, but will pick this up when it drops in price during a Black Friday deal. So many games out, so little time. Message | Report |
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pslee
posted 04/11/2011, 01:00
Its like killzone 3 sale numbers. Maybe it might reach 2 million without bundle by february. Message | Report |
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DeathPool
posted 03/11/2011, 12:52
NA and japan sales are so bad. Message | Report |
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DakonBlackblade
posted 02/11/2011, 03:34
@pezus it might have to do with the fact that theres a gazilion games comming out on the same time as well. If I were a game dev I would just delay my game to avoid this insanity going on. Gears, Forza, CoD, Batlefield, Uncharted, Batman, Dark Souls, Deus Ex, Dead Island, Fifa 12 are some fo the stuf that got releases these past few days, I wouldnt whant to compete with that... Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 01/11/2011, 10:53
pezus that's because it released in mid October vs. late October for FM3. Forza 3 got to take advantage of holiday sales earlier, don't worry FM4 will still beak 5 million. Just not sure if that's with or without bundles. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 30/10/2011, 02:24
Not worried about the numbers. Although second week could have been better. But Forza 4 is competing against a lot more other great games then Forza 3 did during its first couple of weeks. Also this game should be on sale arround Black Friday and towards Christmas which will help with its sales and legs. Message | Report |
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jugon21
posted 29/10/2011, 11:15
2nd week: F3(254,094)>F4(223,571) Message | Report |
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yo_john117
posted 28/10/2011, 07:47
Hands down the best racing game I have ever played Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 11:59
Its for the Hardcore, Forza on the other hand wants to be both and thats why it doesn't sell as well. You can play Grid, PGR, Need for Speed and have way more "fun" if that is what your looking for. Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 11:56
These games are sims not arcade racers I don't know a kid that has even mentioned Forza or GT. Call of Duty, Gears of War, a little Rage that pretty much covers it. A sim is fun if your good enough at it to meet the challenge. Most kids in the US couldn't care less about a racing sim or game outside of Need for Speed and even they are few and far between. GT5 is a blast if you can play the way its meant to be played its not for the casual racing fan. I will admit that Forza does a better job as a casual racer. GT5 does not hold your hand at any point. That's why people buy it and GT games are all in the top 10 best selling racers of all time on any console in any cycle since it came out. Message | Report |
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Chunkysatsuma
posted 27/10/2011, 10:32
In the classes I teach most children are playing the xbox as they find it more fun, different for different people. My experience is that myself, my friends and my students seem to prefer the Forza games as they remember that games should be fun :p Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 07:38
user score for forza 4 is 8.1 for GT5 its 8.96 Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 07:35
The things I stated are factual if you have played the crap out of Forza 3 and then got 4 and felt like you got 3.5. Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 07:29
@Chunk Your free to disagree and like whatever you wish I wasn't speaking to the masses per say simply stating the facts that are out there. As far as formal education I get to do that five days a week so research is pretty important. I spend all day around high school and middle school kids. We talk games a lot in my class and having taught in 3 states and 4 school systems I have a pretty good idea what they play and on what they don't along with the friends I have closer to my age and other teachers. I didn't say anything that doesn't fit what others in reviews have said or people that have bought it. Lastly I never said any game was "rubbish" just not up to par for a true sequal way 2 much recycling for mine and a lot of others taste. Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 27/10/2011, 04:18
started 25% better than FM3... Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 27/10/2011, 04:06
my guess is 6M WW. Message | Report |
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Kai Master
posted 27/10/2011, 04:03
identic sales as FM2 in 2 weeks instead of 7 ! But Europe and America inverted sales ! Message | Report |
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Chunkysatsuma
posted 27/10/2011, 12:49
GT5 bored me, doesnt mean I think it is a bad game just not for me, I personally believe Forza 4 to be a superior game, if this fact offends you then im sorry but perhaps it is you who are blinkered Message | Report |
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Chunkysatsuma
posted 27/10/2011, 12:48
mmk sure you step out and do us a favour :p and again im guessing by your attempt to once again use opinion as fact you have not yet moved on to any formal education where simply saying "this game is rubbish and anyone who disagrees is wrong" would not be accepted as a valid argument. Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 12:12
Love my 360 and my ps3 wear your blinders if you like Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 12:10
They should start naming em forza 2011, 2012, 2013... Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 12:07
And I'm guessing ur 15 judging by the use of mmk. I do think that's obviously the issue hear so I'll step out and let you guys pretend you didn't just buy the same game twice! As far as having both consoles I appreciate u answering for @2099 but I was speaking to A user not all which I suppose you either missed or was just lost on you. As for facts they r everywhere common place knowledge search a little. I did state fact, what do you question? As for mr soul I can't respond to "hogwash" wtf is that. Forza 4 is 3 with new paint even same tracks those are facts read a review. I don't need to prove anything it's all out there on the web. Didn't realize a reference page was needed. Message | Report |
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Chunkysatsuma
posted 27/10/2011, 10:31
Hey "Thebrain" before you make sweeping statements like that try to think mmk? I also have both consoles (emperorchunky on psn) and I also played forza and GT5. GT5 bored me very quickly, Forza didnt. Stop stating your opinion as if it is binding fact. Message | Report |
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enditall727
posted 27/10/2011, 10:26
hmm.. i dont think this game will hit 5 mill ltd Message | Report |
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enditall727
posted 27/10/2011, 10:26
hmm.. i dont think this game will hit 5 mill ltd Message | Report |
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lurkerwithnosoul
posted 27/10/2011, 09:37
@TheBrain Stating opinions as facts. Using sales to prove quality (lol). And of course, the "it's pointless to argue because i have both" hogwash. Proving you're not even sure about all the crap you're saying. Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 04:32
Its pointless to argue because I have both consoles just upgraded to the Gears 360. I've played both sides its obvious you havent. I have GT5 love it, have Forza 3 like it, rented Forza 4 its good but a lot like 3. I'll pass and go back to the core of what these games are suppose to be sims and that sir is GT5 and the sales back it up. Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 27/10/2011, 04:24
@2099 might as well throw prologue in there 2 huh so what like 11-12 million for gt this gen aaaaaannnndddd then there's forza. I love Gears but to say the strong point is its story is laughable at best I don't care if they write 50 books it cant hold a candle to the Uncharted system in story telling thats a fact! There was Gears 1 a great game then 1.25 and then 1.5. Last two were a letdown thow 3 not as much as 2. As for players the shooter thing isn't a stereotype its got hundreds of examples to back it up. What happened to Alan Wake one of the best 360 games there is? PS3 always has more choices and a larger variety of exclusives thats why Microsoft sells so many of there 2. What else would a fanboy or multi-console owner buy? GT is a sim, Forza wants to be a sim but its just another racing game. Metacritic scores are nice to help you figure out what sucks and what doesn't but between 92-80 its all pretty much the same. Obviously people want the sim just looking at the sales numbers so counting off points for that is a joke. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 27/10/2011, 04:00
Still tracking ahead of Forza 3 so far. At least 5 million plus should be easily acomplished. Message | Report |
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Chunkysatsuma
posted 27/10/2011, 01:34
Solid sales, will probably sell around 5 million + which is good, best race sim this gen for me :) Message | Report |
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Kees
posted 26/10/2011, 06:39
@ Sales2099: Stop flaming and start gaming! Message | Report |
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pslee
posted 26/10/2011, 06:28
cant compare forza and gt in terms of sales. its like comparing halo and killzone. Message | Report |
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Mordred11
posted 26/10/2011, 05:42
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DakonBlackblade
posted 26/10/2011, 04:04
@sales 2099 Adding 3 games to manage to surpass the sales of 1 realy makes a lot of sense... youre trying too hard to be a XXBOX fanboy, Forza and GT are great games. However saleswize GT blows Forza out of the water, GT5 is tacking ahead of GT4 wich means it could reach the 10 million units lifetime. Also Gears and Uncharted are both great games. O and since were adding sales from games of the same franchise I think Gran Turismo 5 Prologue would whant a word with you, it only sold like 4.11 million coppies... Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 26/10/2011, 02:54
Ya GT owns forza with that 84 Metacritic LOL!!!! Every forza is over 90. You know what they say about GT: Great sim, horrible video game. Forza is a great sim, arguably better with some reviewers AND is a great video game. That why its 90+ quality and GT is now degraded to a 80's series. Wake up pal. Forza releases faster and maintains better quality. GT is dated, sloppy, and takes too long. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 26/10/2011, 02:52
GT5 took 5 years to make. 3 Forzas have now been out in the same time. Add all the sales together and you have a superior selling franchise this gen :). The meat headed shooter stereotype is old man, get your facts straight. Theres 4 really good Gears noivels out, same author wrote the story for Gears 3, actually hell of a lot more developed then the uncharted story. Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 26/10/2011, 08:30
Every time I load my Xbox I get there made for 14 yr old colors and adds...I love my Xbox but ignoring all that is a joke...isn't gears there one game this yr anyway...I know it's the only exclusive I bought... Message | Report |
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Thebrain
posted 26/10/2011, 08:25
Actually u compare this to say gt5 in sales which are near 7 mil in less than a year. I love Gears but uncharted is an action story driven platformer not a meat headed shooter which granted so many Xbox owners jizz over every time one comes out. Your comparison is nearly as bad as his! Gt owns forza always has always will u get vet with forza tricked out it just looks like a toy. Gt is class not a car a class that forza will never b. everything leading up to driving is just generic the menu's ect. It's like a toy vs the real thing! Besides everyone knows a ton of teens is the majority of the Xbox fan base and all they wanna do is shoot something. Ps3 has a MUCH wider range of players. Microsoft knows that, so they cater everything to them Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 25/10/2011, 05:10
Hey crunch....I think Uncharted is better compared to Gears 3, both being 3rd person shooters. O wait.....then youd be embarrassed if you did that.....that explains why you chose Forza 4 as a backup :P Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 25/10/2011, 04:50
Forza 4 only 80k in Americas...hmmm. Hope EMEAA numbers are good. Message | Report |
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enrageorange
posted 25/10/2011, 04:42
deathpool i hope you realize that GT5 has been bundled quite often, and not just those limited edition bundles at launch. Message | Report |
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crunch
posted 25/10/2011, 04:29
And Uncharted 3 will easily top this first week. thanks to eu Message | Report |
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Pr1mus
posted 25/10/2011, 07:15
@sales2099 Just on top of my head now, MGS4, Killzone 1 ans 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5 and Heavy Rain all opened higher than Forza 3 and in that list only Heavy Rain falls behind Forza 4 very slightly . Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 25/10/2011, 05:10
and forza 4 too :) Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 25/10/2011, 05:09
Ya Pezus except no PS3 exclusive can touch Gears and Halo sales, the main flagship 360 exclusives. Theres GT but if it releases every 5 years thats actually pretty weak sales considering the time gap. Halo and Gears generate its sales but with more iterations. Point is. Forza 3 opened up to sales that surpass most ps3 exclusive opening sales. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 24/10/2011, 04:38
This is not getting bundled anytime soon the earliest it will be bundled is spring 2012. But no heavy bundling untill next fall. Message | Report |
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DeathPool
posted 23/10/2011, 06:53
nope more like forza 3, you know practically just giving it away......and I do wish they bundle GT5 as well but its still selling well without it so I guess it aint gonna happen anytime soon. Message | Report |
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piggychan
posted 23/10/2011, 03:50
and.. it should be bundled just like GT5 ??http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/16164644/Sony-PlayStation-3-PS3-Slim-Console-Bundle-with-320GB-HDD-Gran-Turismo-5-Collectors-Edition/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518|cat:16164644|prd:16164644 Message | Report |
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piggychan
posted 23/10/2011, 03:48
it's not bad just 2 days of sales ?? It comes around same time as guardian heroes, gears of war 3, fifa 12 I think it's doing alright Message | Report |
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Feniris
posted 22/10/2011, 04:29
Excellent first week for Forza 4. I wonder how far it can go before MSoft decides to mass budle it again. Message | Report |
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sales2099
posted 22/10/2011, 03:05
lol guys this game not only sold more then forza 3 but had a bigger week then 90% of ps3 exclusives Message | Report |
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DeathPool
posted 22/10/2011, 09:54
this game needs to be included with every 360 sold again Message | Report |
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DeathPool
posted 22/10/2011, 09:40
bundle time again.... Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 22/10/2011, 03:40
The highest Forza 3 got on the sales charts was #3 in its second week. This debuts at number #1 and people call it a flop even though it almost sold 70,000 more units then Forza 3 in its first week you guys need to do some research before posting BS opinions like that. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 22/10/2011, 03:40
The highest Forza 3 got on the sales charts was #3 in its second week. This debuts at number #1 and people call it a flop even though it almost sold 70,000 more units then Forza 3 in its first week you guys need to do some research before posting BS opinions like that. Message | Report |
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blue7x7
posted 22/10/2011, 01:03
lol I'm surprised people here are calling these sales bad how is improving 70,000 sales compare to it's predecessor considered bad and in just 1 day in EMEAA and 2 days in the US it improved in all regions. Forza games have never sold millions it sells little by little they usually have good legs. It's like saying Resistance 3 sales are bad because it didn't do 3 million like halo does it's a dumb comparison but it will most likely sell over 1 million. Forza is the same way it sells a lot in the long term It's funny how history repeats itself I remember when forza 3 came out and people calling it's sales bad now look 2 years later almost 5 million sales. Message | Report |
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vashkey
posted 22/10/2011, 12:56
impressive launch. I was actually expecting lower sales than forza 3 Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 21/10/2011, 06:30
Sorry, I don't think Forza 5 will be around in 2 years to cut Forza 4's sales. Top Gear is huge. Also Forza 4 topped Forza 3 numbers with only 2 days to sell in week 1 where Forza 3 had a week. It only did 25% better week 1, but with the previously mentioned point, and the fact it's releasing earlier into the holidays, I expect sales to hold at about 50% better weekly. Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 21/10/2011, 06:28
yahoo, wow. Enough with the console wars, none of those games are even racing games. pezus - It likely won't double Forza 3's EMEAA sales, but I expect it to do 50% better. I don't think Forza 4 will be around in 2 years to cuts sales, and I think this game will have longer legs then Forza 3. I think sales may even pick up a bit when Top Gear comes back on air. Message | Report |
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The_Joker_Product
posted 21/10/2011, 05:12
Yahoo sures like to have attention. Message | Report |
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hallodx
posted 21/10/2011, 03:11
SEE THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdXriG8P31E Message | Report |
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Iveyboi
posted 21/10/2011, 02:11
Yahoo: You are a pathetic troll. I have seen you everywhere. Face it son = this game sold below expectations. Message | Report |
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yahoocom1984
posted 21/10/2011, 01:35
This is not flop, you want to hear a flop? Resistance 3, socom 4, motorstorm....Ok? Message | Report |
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yahoocom1984
posted 21/10/2011, 01:35
This is not flop, you want to hear a flop? Resistance 3, socom 4, motorstorm....Ok? Message | Report |
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yahoocom1984
posted 21/10/2011, 01:35
This is not flop, you want to hear a flop? Resistance 3, socom 4, motorstorm....Ok? Message | Report |
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Michael-5
posted 21/10/2011, 12:36
How is this a flop? It's selling on par with Forza 3 in NA, and it managed about 25-30% stronger week one sales in EMEAA with only a couple days week 1 where Forza 3 had a week. Forza 4 could double EMEAA's numbers from Forza 3, and that's excellent. Hope it break 5 million like Forza 3, but without bundles. Message | Report |
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--OkeyDokey--
posted 21/10/2011, 11:10
Microsoft's bundling strategy isn't working to expand the fanbase. Still the same ~500k people that bought Forza 3 first week. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 21/10/2011, 06:12
@thelastsoldier how can you say it flopped when we only have week 1 numbers from NA so far. That's not enough numbers to call it a flop. So far its slightly ahead of FM3. Message | Report |
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rpgmaniac
posted 20/10/2011, 05:20
@jacks81x it didnt sell so well because if some1 have both PS3 & 360 he will ofc buy GT5 no brain simple? :) Message | Report |
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thelastsoldier
posted 20/10/2011, 02:41
everone has a holiay excuse, Nintendo 3DS, Resistance 3, now this crap Forza 4....SMH...whats done is done Message | Report |
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thelastsoldier
posted 20/10/2011, 02:35
everyone has a holiday excuse, 3DS, Resistance 3, now this FLOP whats done is done Message | Report |
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Kizmi
posted 19/10/2011, 02:30
Let's complain about sales AFTER holiday if there is something to complain about. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 19/10/2011, 07:03
Only slightly better then FM3 did in its first week in NA. I'm hoping it does better in Europe and it should because the Top Gear contend was mainly added for the European market since the show is more popular over their. Not to mention that the UK version of Top Gear is a lot better show then the US version. Nobody on the US version comes close to having as much automotive knowledge as Jeremy Clarkson. Message | Report |
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0.06m
Japan |
2.08m
NA |
1.98m
Europe |
0.49m
Others |
4.60m
Total |
| 1 | 22,452 | 200,080 | 229,184 | 64,143 | 515,859 |
| 2 | 3,289 | 68,242 | 135,216 | 30,402 | 237,149 |
| 3 | 1,231 | 34,042 | 61,074 | 19,750 | 116,097 |
| 4 | 805 | 26,640 | 44,839 | 14,744 | 87,028 |
| 5 | 589 | 17,598 | 38,458 | 11,871 | 68,516 |
| 6 | 504 | 13,553 | 34,287 | 10,316 | 58,660 |
| 7 | 443 | 24,549 | 38,902 | 13,082 | 76,976 |
| 8 | 395 | 25,685 | 54,870 | 17,096 | 98,046 |
| 9 | 501 | 30,764 | 80,179 | 23,932 | 135,376 |
| 10 | 733 | 42,179 | 88,564 | 27,572 | 159,048 |
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darkenergy
posted 28/11/2017, 11:48
Forza Horizon 3 will likely pass lifetime sales of Forza Motorsport 4 in Europe by the end 2017, if not then before Forza Horizon 4 releases. Message | Report |
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sub-zero-TM
posted 09/01/2013, 01:39
@ lol first of all nobody asked you anything and why are you so bitter about what i said? uc3's massive bundling has only started recently and the game was already at 5m or above before the bundling the uc franchise is undertracked a lot here, so my point was that the uncharted games sold a lot before the heavy bundling started but i'm happy how they pushed the sales a lot this holiday so yeah Thank god for bundles!!! Message | Report |
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