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outlawauron
posted 28/05/2009, 04:43
This may get passed by Valkyria in America. Crazy. Message | Report |
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Dark_Rulez89
posted 20/05/2009, 03:51
42k according to S.E Not bad Message | Report |
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Nightwish224
posted 19/05/2009, 07:47
This game really was jaw dropping. The visuals and combat were amazing. Sure the character voicing was annoying at times.... yet what jrpg isn't? Once again, I want to stress the fun and interactive combat, along with the spectacular visuals. It's the nicest looking jrpg that is currently released in my opinion!! Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 19/05/2009, 06:39
40k on shelves is respectable number good job vgc Message | Report |
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tedsteriscool
posted 19/05/2009, 05:22
@Avarice28: Much like the majority of SE games recently eh? Message | Report |
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Avarice28
posted 19/05/2009, 01:48
@Mutiverse37 I do not believe in supporting mediocrity and I believe this game just did not live up to all the hype. Message | Report |
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Carl
posted 19/05/2009, 01:23
Want this to release in UK... NOW! Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 17/05/2009, 04:06
Officially the best selling game on the 360 according to VGC in Japan. Now its got to beat DOA3. Hopefully with sales its been showing recently, that wont be too hard Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 13/05/2009, 07:47
@ Mutliverse What now? I can't really say I'd recommend this RPG to anyone. It's fun but even Infinite Undiscovery was better than this. Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 11/05/2009, 02:11
Yep and its been selling really nicely, itll hit 220k mark, but in about a years time, it has the chance of hitting 240k. Message | Report |
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LordMatrix
posted 11/05/2009, 12:43
This is going to be the top selling xbox 360 game in japan very soon. Next week Blue Dragon will fall to the the new king! Message | Report |
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Squall_Leonhart
posted 10/05/2009, 07:56
I can't buy this yet... Damn not being released in the EU yet!! You will never get out of your old ways will you SE!! Message | Report |
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Mutiverse37
posted 09/05/2009, 05:56
I still think anyone who refuses to but this work of art just because they don't like the console it is on don't deserve the game to begin with. Be loyal to the developer; not a console maker. I have a 360 not because I like it or dislike it. I don't care. I support the developers who actually make the games I like. Don't miss out. Buy the game. Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 09/05/2009, 01:28
Thats a respectable number given that MS funded the engine which in turn lowered the cost of this game SEVERELY Its going to go multi eventually though dont expect it anytime soon, the game is still moving hardware Message | Report |
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Dark_Rulez89
posted 08/05/2009, 02:37
500k by the time it hits other,I need this game:) Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 07/05/2009, 08:46
Also, the fact that its holding on well in Japan could mean that the 360 finally has a title that will continue to sell for a while Just about every other 360 game drops off the map hence its so hard to see where the software sales are going but if this continues to sell till the end of the year you can expect it to be moving hardware. Message | Report |
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piggychan
posted 05/05/2009, 11:53
argghhh 1 more month till it hits europe. I'm pre ordering this... why the heck was this delayed so much compared to the other SE X360 Euro releases? Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 04/05/2009, 12:04
Next week itll outdo BD. Still the attach ratio is good as the console has moved a little bit more mainstream. The sales seem to be holding up quite well too. As we know, BD just sold on and on and on, could this do the same? I could see it reaching 230k... Message | Report |
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Hero_time88
posted 03/05/2009, 04:30
If other typicall PS2 franchises on the PS3 give any indication I'd say yes. Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 03/05/2009, 04:17
@ Infamous No it will not! Star Ocean 3 has only has 90k on the PS2. This will be very lucky to pass that. Message | Report |
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jpain333
posted 02/05/2009, 07:13
lol...it wouldnt be any better on the ps3, better sales in japan but mostly likely weaker sales in the states....fanboys just love to complain really.. Message | Report |
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Gearbox
posted 02/05/2009, 05:15
@ Infamous - u no i think it would have sold MUCH better on the ps3 when i think about it. less competition on the ps3 for jrpgs, massive opening in japan. and there are more jrpg fans on the ps3 then 360 (just a lot of them own 360s aswell) Message | Report |
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Infamous
posted 01/05/2009, 05:26
Rofl@ the guy below me, keep dreaming. Wouldn't even be close to 1m if it was PS3 exclusive; all it would have is a larger Japan opening. Anyways, 500k a bit after it's released in Europe. Message | Report |
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oliminator1994
posted 30/04/2009, 04:55
possibly would be a million seller if it was a PS3 exclusive? Message | Report |
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SlipperyMooseCakes
posted 30/04/2009, 03:52
It's selling well compared to the others in the series with the exception of perhaps two. It is yet to be released in Europe and when it does it should obviously see a boost. I'm going to guess a lifetime sales around 500,000 which isn't bad for a jrpg exclusive on the 360. Message | Report |
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andrewclear
posted 29/04/2009, 01:08
Ok, max, let me put some stuff into perspective for you. Number 1, most developers never see a penny from royalties on there games, that's just how the business is. Third party developers (like tri-ace) have to pitch their ideas to a publisher in order to get funding tp develop a game. It's the same basic principal as the movie industry. The third party developer needs to over budget a little, or come in under budget, for the company to guarantee a profit. After that, it depends on how much the game grosses. There is usually a set amount of money the game must make before the developer will see royalties. Publishers get the bulk of the revenue (if not all) of a game, but they finance the development of the game. The publishers decide if the game is going to be exclusive, not the developer. Some third party developers get financing from other sources than publishers. After that, they have to shop their game around for a publisher, and sometimes the game will never see the light of day and the developer is screwed on their gamble. Those situations, the developer can get a better shake, depending on how they work their contract. Tri-ace didn't get to decide on Infinite Undiscovery, cause that was originally a Microsoft Game Studios project. Microsoft made a deal with SE, and SE was able to publish it. Who knows if Star Ocean was part of that deal, and maybe even FFXIII. And no, Mistwalker isn't a MS studio. Mistwalker is an independent game design company. They don't code any of their games, only design them. Artoon developed Blue Dragon, and Feelplus (which is a Microsoft company, that was created to assist Mistwalker) developed Lost Odyssey. Mistwalker didn't cancel CryOn, the publisher did. Only thing I know for certain that mistwalker is making right now is a sequel to Blue Dragon for the DS (not blue dragon plus, which is out, but a sequel that takes place two years later). There is no guarantee White Knight Chornicles will sell well in the west. I've read enough import reviews to know that it doesn't fair well here. Message | Report |
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Bitmap Frogs
posted 28/04/2009, 09:56
@lordmatrix Because they spent 400 smackers thinking they'd get to play games like this. It's basically a case of blue balls. Message | Report |
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iron_megalith
posted 24/04/2009, 04:45
LOL @ this wall. There's so much shit and truth going around that you can't distinguish one from the other. Message | Report |
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LordMatrix
posted 23/04/2009, 11:43
Why the Sony Fanboy crap spreading? Message | Report |
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Anben7
posted 23/04/2009, 04:26
wow, amazing, but actually i think nobody is going to win anyway in this generation, 360 and ps3 are 5050, no one can actually beats the other, thats all... Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 20/04/2009, 08:02
ok i did go into as much detail as the other one but this is compsed a little better. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 20/04/2009, 08:00
oh my god... i just had a huge long post and accidentally deleted it all.... ok im not going as far into details as i did the other. Andrew - ToV isn't sold in US anymore. Granted you can buy a used one BUT someone browsing best buys shelves who is interested in a hd console wont see that. most likely they'll see a ps3 version. "the chances of that are..." yeah i know you dont think it'll happen nut the chances of xedge coming westward were worse. but it did happen. also, ToV is already being ported and they alreadly have the voice acting. so for virtually no cost (some english VA for new character, manufacturing, and shipping) they could bring it to the US which would be a VERY smart business move. it'll be pure profit and recoup some losses recieved. (even if it sold a petty 50k the decision would be justifiable) also reviewers think VC > LO but thats all opinion. (but tell that to someone who hasnt bought HD yet and hasnt played either yet and all they know is the metascore of each) MS paid for IU because IU is a MS IP. what's better 360 sales x income or PS360 sales x income - dev cost. well lets find out. according to studies about 27 dollars goes to the devs. according to you about 250k copies to break even. so 6.75 million dev cost. (27 x .25). i can agree with that. So for .34 x 27 = 9.18 now we dont have sales for ps3 but looking at WKC a new IP with low famitsu score and not a huge fane base like SO considering its a new IP I'd say the ps3 version would easily do .34 in japan alone! but ill be nice and just say .34. now to figure dev cost. it would be close to 6.75 million for one game but for a port itd be more i'll be generous and say half of a normal dev cost (i've seen estimates putting ports at a tenth of cost so mine are generous) so .25 x 1.5 x 27 = 10 million for cost of development for ps3 so our formula looks like this .68 for ps360 sales x 27 - 10 million. .68 x 27 = 18.36 - 10 = 8.36. so far 360 exclusive > multiplat but there is no EU sales yet. lets say half of NA sales at 75k. 75k x 27 = 2 + 9.18 = 11.18. 150k x 27 = 4 + 8.36 = 12.36. 12.36 > 11.18 and remember ps3 sales, cost of port greatly favor the 360 exclusive side. hell these also assume sales will stop at 400k. which also favor the 360. not only would it be more profitable not allowing MS to money hat them but they would also sell closer to a million. "why does that even matter?" you may be asking yourself well here is the answer. sales might be hurt by future titles because they castrated themselves for their fanbase. so not only did 360 exclusive not pay off immediately but it also might come round and bite em in the ass if they make SO5 and get 400k sales because thats how many fans are left since the 1.5million who bought 2 and 3 couldnt buy 4. i said less than 10 dollars and more than 15million. and you dont know what that 15 mil represents. it isnt how much i think MS gave them but its how much MS should of paid them to make the game 360 exclusive. Now i could of just ran one by you and used the 15mil figure to make my arguement look better but i wont (hell i dont need to). I believe MS paid at least 7 million for dev cost (the figue we used earlier). now .34 x 10 does not equal 34mil. instead it equals 3.4 million. which means SO4 must sell at least .36 more copies to make this a good desicion for MS. hell if you want to say MS threw in a little extra to make tri ace happier lets say they threw in an extra 1million dollars (8million total.) that still makes 12.36 >12.11 but puts MS another 100k away. Now remember MS is not publisher nor developer 10 dollars is again a generous estimate in favor of MS. looks like both sides lost money here which means IT SHOULD OF BEEN MULTIPLAT! dude go look at multiplats in japan. the ones japanese actually want. its like a 20:2 ratio for the ps3. ff13 in japan for 360 would be worse than that. ff13 wouldnt kill the ps3. and SE isnt doing it for the ps3 but for themselves. they are hurting to gain back money from losses. they NEED to release a high calibur game. They cant just have the ps3 version done sittin around on the shelves gathering dust for 4 months waiting for the 360 version to be complete to be released same day as ps3. and releasing it afterwards wouldnt make much sense considering everyone and their mother will have it by then. Mistwalker isnt MS studio... im pretty sure they are making a wii game. in fact they cancelled cry on Message | Report |
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MontanaHatchet
posted 20/04/2009, 01:09
The best part is where he claimed that 340,000x10=34,000,000. Ha ha ha. Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 19/04/2009, 09:45
@ andrew You realize a lot of what you just said isn't true. The game part is your opinion, but everything else..... Message | Report |
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andrewclear
posted 19/04/2009, 03:23
@max 360 still is the best for JRPGS in america, hands down. LO is by far the best JRPG of this gen so far. Sure VC is ok, but ToV is better in my opinion. Also SE is making plenty of money off of the games that have been released. Most japanese studios break even at 250k sales. Also, I don't know if MS paid for all the exclusives, or whether it's just that their machine was the first one on the market. Infinite Undiscovery was funded by Microsoft, cause it was supposed to be published by Microsoft Game Studios, but, MS and SE made a deal to switch publishers. That engine is also the engine use to make Star Ocean, and who knows, probably this new game tri-ace is making for Sega. Also, if you take into account that MS is making 10 dollars a copy of a game, then Star Ocean has made them 34 million so far. That would justify shelling out 15 million for an exclusive, that brought in a few more japanese gamers. The reality is, SE is making sure that the PS3 isn't killed off by the 360. If they would release a 360 version of FFXIII in japan, that would kill the PS3, and thus, SE said they will never make one for japan. In reality, it's a stupid financial decision, since they already have all the code, and voice acting in place (and Crystal Tools is a cross platform engine). They could easily release a 360 version for japan when they release it for America. Shame. In the end, I think the exclusives on JRPG's are coming to an end on the PS3 and 360, except Sony first party games, and Microsoft Game Studio games (ie, Mistwalker titles). The wii is going to be the new home for JRPG's this gen, whether we like it or not. Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 19/04/2009, 09:54
@ Shadow Yeah, it should plateau around ~3-4k. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 18/04/2009, 07:12
yeah europe is getting it. se released something a while back saying they are hopeful for europes sales... or something along those lines Message | Report |
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elzumo
posted 18/04/2009, 02:39
Is Europe going to get this? Message | Report |
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Shadowblind
posted 17/04/2009, 08:25
Legs aren't NEAR as awful as vesperia's were...good and bad.... :,( Still at $59.99 too. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 14/04/2009, 09:04
aga - WKC, cross edge, VC, Alteir, Disgea all exclusive to the ps3... SO (for how long these sales dont justify being exclusive) mediocre IU, LO, BD 360 exclusive... looks to me 360 is NOT the console to buy for jrpgs. especially since the best one of those is ps3 exclusive. i said to learn english because you were putting words in my mouth. you kept saying i said it should be ps3 exclusive. but i said it should be multiplat. ports are cheap. they are nowhere near the full cost of developing from ground up. in fact ports probablly only need like 150k sales to justify the decision. TLR is special. its using the unreal engine which for some reason has complications for the ps3. it is basically a PC graphics engine thats why it was able to be on PC and 360 more easily. square is losing money even with MS funds. it looks as if MS would have had to hand out 15 million (this doesnt take into consideration the lost sales EU will probablly recieve) and i cant see head guys in ms allowing this. conversation probablly went like this 'lets pay more than 15million to a japanese company to make an rpg' higher up 'what will that give us in return?' other guy 'well we wont make the money back up' higher up 'no' MS barely gets money back per sale for this game since they are not the devs or publisher. probablly less then 10 dollars per copy. andrew - the chances of xedge coming west was even smaller look where its at now Message | Report |
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mjc2021
posted 14/04/2009, 01:07
Ouch, terrible sales. Well I will grab it when I can get it dirt cheap. Message | Report |
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Nightmare24
posted 13/04/2009, 08:51
all fanboys are just stupid, they play sales while i play a great game Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 13/04/2009, 01:24
Hmm, up until the nice plot twist on your way to En II, I was going to say that IU is much better. Right now, they are both pretty even. Message | Report |
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Lightel0s
posted 13/04/2009, 12:25
great rpg! every rpg lover should buy it its pretty one of the best rpgs this gen. cant understand why dont sell a lot in the americas. worth every penny Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 11/04/2009, 08:39
Can this top 215k in Japan? Message | Report |
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Aghahowa
posted 11/04/2009, 12:01
@ Max Well englisch is my secondary / third language, if you consider that my englisch is not that bad ;) Just get used to the fact, that PS3 isnt the console you should buy, if you like RPGs. That wont change. Porting games like SO to the PS3, which is much more complicated to program costs very much money. Why do you think they didnt release Last Remnant for PS3 until now? It even got a release on PC. Because its not easy to port it to the PS3. So if Square can get some money from MS they save much work and nearly get the same profit as if they would release it on PS3 too... Message | Report |
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andrewclear
posted 11/04/2009, 02:21
ToV is coming to the PS3 yes...in japan. Since they stopped selling the 360 version in America, a long time ago, chances of a ps3 release here are slim to none. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 09/04/2009, 05:36
no i wouldnt. and to prove it when it makes its way to the ps3 i wont buy it. id buy ToV before i even think about picking this game up and judging from my last post s the chance of that are.... absolutely none. Message | Report |
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Bitmap Frogs
posted 09/04/2009, 01:43
Oh yes, you would Max. That's why you are all over this wall, because you crave what you can't get. Blue balls are bad, hmkay? Message | Report |
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Dark Odin
posted 08/04/2009, 08:42
come to PS3! Message | Report |
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ocnkng
posted 08/04/2009, 04:39
It don't make no sense why Square Enix don't release this for the PS3 also, at least for Japan. How much money did they take from M$? Message | Report |
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Marco
posted 08/04/2009, 01:16
Star Ocean - it's coming for PS3!!! ps: Tales of Vesperia too http://www.consolewars.de/userpages/viewentry.php?bid=31868 Message | Report |
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candy2500
posted 08/04/2009, 03:16
this is one fantastic addicting game. anyone thinking of picking it up DO IT, its a great game. Message | Report |
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Hyams
posted 08/04/2009, 02:38
TacoBoy49, are you *really* comparing the sales of a SRPG to a Star Ocean game? On the PS2, SRPGs sold similiar numbers to Valkyria Chronicles ... but Star Ocean 3 sold over a million. Message | Report |
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TacoBoy49
posted 07/04/2009, 06:41
CtatYou said that PS3 hyped games sell to expeions. I gave examples where you are wrong. Valkria Chronicles is an AAA game, higher rated than most nintendo games and is heavily hyped by ps3 owners. This game burped higher numbers in 3 weeks with out europe. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 07/04/2009, 05:27
taco one thread talking about how awesome VC is doesn't constitute as hyping to no end. Add the fact that this game is suppose to outsell such a niche new IP by 10 fold and these numbers aint impressive. what does this game have to do with those games? Message | Report |
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TacoBoy49
posted 07/04/2009, 01:52
Max, PS3 fans have been hyping the hell out of Valkria Chronicles to no end and this game already surpassed it. Your wrong. Just for the record, Gears of war 2 out sold the entire Sony first party games of holiday 2008 combined. That includes Socom+LBP÷R22+motorstorm+Valkria Chronicles+ singstar+buzz< Gears of War 2. Then throw in Fable 2, Left 4, and you can see how wrong you are. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 06/04/2009, 07:49
taco - considering alot of fans said NA would make up for the lost japanese sales (im willing to bet the devs were hopeful too) then this not selling over 1million is a flop. i find it hysterical that when ps3 fans hype something and then give expectations of the game and are right on the game still flops and doesnt meet expectations but when 360 fans hype games up give expectations and are no where close the game did a fantastic job and exceeded expectations Message | Report |
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TacoBoy49
posted 06/04/2009, 05:32
this is not a flop. 34k is a flop. 340k in 5 weeks is not a flop. it also has Europe yet to be released in. it should have about 600k -700k in life time sales. Not a flop at all. yes I know SO 3 sold a little over a million on the mammoth PS2. Message | Report |
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Squall_Leonhart
posted 05/04/2009, 10:17
I wonder how long it will be until this game is available on the PS3! If it stays 360 exclusive then i will buy it for my 360 but not a fan of the controller so would prefer a PS3 version! Message | Report |
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Skeeuk
posted 05/04/2009, 08:49
@aghahowa your post is pointless. SO is far far greater franchise than WKC it should have done a lot more, imo SO has flopped in sales, but is still a good game to play. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 05/04/2009, 07:44
It was all for no reason to. Star Ocean: The Last Hope, is bottom line a great game. infact i'd dare to say the BEST JRPG this Gen up there with Valkyria Chronicles. But when it comes to JRPG sales now an days people love to talk smack about it for one reason or an other. In conclusion, dont argue with random people on teh internetz its a waste of time. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 05/04/2009, 06:45
learn the market and learn english and come back to talk. Message | Report |
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DiplomaticImmunity
posted 04/04/2009, 05:43
wow u guys argue for no reason Message | Report |
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XxXProphecyXxX
posted 04/04/2009, 02:47
ROLF...I just read the funniest argument I have ever read. Message | Report |
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FaRmLaNd
posted 04/04/2009, 01:29
Gosh. Both HD consoles sell JRPG's poorly. I think they all should be multiplatform or on the wii/psp/ds instead. Message | Report |
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Aghahowa
posted 04/04/2009, 09:31
@ Max King of the Wild. Tell me what you want, but if PS3 users keep saying, that JRPGs flop on Xbox360, they should look at the selling numbers for PS3 RPGs games. SO sold 200,000 on Xbox360 with a userbase of 1,000,000 players in Japan. White Knight Chronicles sold 333,000 with a playerbase of 3,000,000. Now you do the math... and please shut up about WKC not being a "big game" like SO. It doesnt matter when you dont have COMPETITORS. Its without any competition against other JRPGs. Eternal Sonata Xbox360 200.000 PS3 110.000 Enchanted Arms Xbox 360 140.000 PS3 160.000 Valkyria Chronicles PS3 330.000 Lost Odyssey Xbox 360 800.000 Last Remnant Xbox 360 550.000 PS3 users should just stop saying that the JRGPs should be released on PS3 and not on Xbox360. Square wants to expand to the western market, and the Xbox360 is much stronger there. And if Sony doesnt care about JRPGs (if they would, they would offer Square etc. a little bit of money, like MS does), its their problem. PS3 users always think, that they are the "JRPG" community, but i tell you what, i owned a PS1 and PS2, because i love JRPGs, same as some of my friends. And now? We all have a Xbox360. Why should i go on supporting Sony, if they dont care about the games i like? I dont support a console developer, i support the games, i would even buy a SEGA console if it would offer the games i like :) Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 03/04/2009, 12:54
aghahowa - so why shouldnt i compare sales to a different user base? no way in hell do devs want their franchise to slip. if user base is a concern devs should take that into consideration. so basically its the devs own dumb ass fault for this franchise sales decline. not mine and not the genre. im fairly certain this game would be on track to 1.29 million if it was multiplat. Im looking at ps3 sw list and it beats 360s senseless in japan. WKC is not a big name like SO in japan and L5 isnt a big name like SE yet WKC outsold SOs first 5 weeks in its first week alone. WKC is on its way of being the best selling L5 rpg. Disgea is on track with 1 and 2. it droped off the charts but that doesnt mean it aint selling and im pretty sure 1 and 2 are based off shipments. basically im sure brett would have lost track of those games too if he had to teack them. VC is a very successful game and practicality outsold every similar ps2 game like it with a fraction the user base(Oh look i just shot your smaller user base theory down) SINCE WHEN DO RPGS SELL THAT WELL IN JAPAN?!?! no clue why the hell you thought that. this game isnt a rare occurance like FF, DQ, or KH. seriously go learn about the market then come back and talk 330k is a hit your insane if you dont think so. bitmap - no i didnt and i wouldnt want to play this game Message | Report |
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MetalSabe
posted 02/04/2009, 04:15
I really like this game, it's inconsistent but good. The story does not really pick up until halfway through disk one, The cutscenes are all over the place (epsecially the lip syncing) ranging from terrible to decent. The combat and item crafting systems are awesome though. Most of the characters are likeable (I hate lymle and that featherfolk girl). I'm at the begining of disk 4, hope the ending is good. Message | Report |
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Bitmap Frogs
posted 01/04/2009, 03:38
Another game Max is angry because he can't play it. You bought your ps3 at launch, didn't you Max? Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 31/03/2009, 07:05
Aghahowa, you can't realyl criticize Max when you use his same type of argument. Userbase really isn't too important. Once you get up to a point, it's meaningless with these small JRPGs. And White Knight Chronicles is going to sell on par with every other non-DQ Level 5 game in Japan. Message | Report |
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Aghahowa
posted 31/03/2009, 08:50
@ Max King of the Wild So you are comparing selling numbers of JRPGs on playstation 2 which sold around 120,000,000 times with a console which sold around 30,000,000 times? In my opinion its senseless. You should also consider that there was a much bigger JRPG fanbase a few years ago. Now the big PC RPGs also get a console release, like Witcher, Dragon Age, Fallout3, The Elder Scrolls, Divinity 2. But the JRPGs are the same as they were 5 years ago, just with better graphics. Thats why they dont get good ratings, and thats why they dont sell well. Look at the PS3 JRPGs, they also doesnt sell better, even White Knight Chronicles wasnt able to sell really much in Japan, if you consider the hardwarebase of PS3 and Xbox360 in Japan you can even say, that Star Ocean sold much better than Whiteh Knight Chronicles. Thats what I wonder about, I thought that White Knight Chronicles would sell ~600.000 or more in Japan, since 3,000,000 own a PS3. These 3M people are waiting for good JRPGs, since the PS3 doesnt offer that much....then if you sell around 330k in Japan, its not really successful. We just cant expect any JRPG to sell like they sold on PS2, because Xbox360 and PS3 together didnt even sell enough consoles to reach the PS2. Message | Report |
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SHMUPGurus
posted 29/03/2009, 10:19
I completely agree with Mutiverse37. I'm glad to see great minds think alike! ;) Message | Report |
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jonnhytesta
posted 29/03/2009, 06:54
is this game a ffx ripoff ? i read that somewhere. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 29/03/2009, 11:38
@Numonex- if it makes you feel any better i hated the Xbox 360 all models, until... Star Ocean 4... So a few jumped in for this game, but not many, not as much as anyone would have thought anyway. Message | Report |
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numonex
posted 29/03/2009, 05:57
I thought this game would sell a lot better and get more JRPG fans to Jump In. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 29/03/2009, 01:59
This better outsell TLR, SO4 is way better. and glitch-free. Message | Report |
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jpain333
posted 28/03/2009, 10:39
damn u must have a grudge when it comes to jrpgs on the 360 and sales.....lets see how it plays out, why ya'll gotta be quick to judge?? Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 27/03/2009, 07:39
like i said 130k first 30 days (110-120 US) compared to so3's 230k npd (250-260k NA) first 30 days. looks to of lost 50% so far. it'll be lucky to make it to 400k in NA. i dont know others sales for so3 but i wouldnt be surprised if it follows the same trends and loses some sales from 4 . i dont know if ms's money was enough to cover lost sales. it looks as if its already losing more than 600k with JP+NA which would be around 15 million. Message | Report |
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Gabriel84
posted 26/03/2009, 11:42
Will this outsell Last Remnant? Message | Report |
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Bitmap Frogs
posted 26/03/2009, 11:21
In this wall: a lot of blue balls. Message | Report |
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Mutiverse37
posted 26/03/2009, 07:06
If the mass RPG loving japanese gamers don't buy this game just because they don't like the console it's on then they don't deserve the game to begin with and will miss out on and deprive themselves of a great game. Being loyal to a developer is noble but I would never be loyal to a console maker or not buy one just because I don't like the company. The software developers are the ones who should get our support. Message | Report |
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jpain333
posted 26/03/2009, 05:09
lol...500k first day? stop dreaming fanboy. Lets see the legs on this game before we start jumping to conclusions ok? Message | Report |
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squall747
posted 26/03/2009, 12:51
Great game, and saying the "only on xbox 360" doesnt mean anything doesnt make much sense. Halo or Gears of War speak for themselfs period. As for this selling more if it was on PS3 probably since PS3 has a bigger install base in Japan. A game like this shoulda been on 360 and PS3 then the sales woulda hit a million I think. . Message | Report |
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Avarice28
posted 25/03/2009, 09:45
Sorry 500k first day on ps3 and this game would be setting a lot closer to 1million than it is currently. Message | Report |
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Avarice28
posted 25/03/2009, 09:44
I disagree, if this would have come out on both systems (ps3 and 360) it would have done 500k in japan first day. The problem with the sales are the one that came out on the psp(first departure) has currently outsold this game. And that was a snes game with some tweaks added to it, this is sad Square let this game bomb on the lower installed base 360 in japan. Message | Report |
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Cactus
posted 24/03/2009, 08:00
I think he was being sarcastic... Message | Report |
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piggychan
posted 24/03/2009, 01:25
@ Aj_habfan tell me when its being released in europe then watch me add that 1 sale. Right now the release day is still TBA here in europe. Message | Report |
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Shadowblind
posted 24/03/2009, 03:15
Despite the fact it hasnt launched there yet? Oh lord, what is happening to this site when comments like THAT start appearing? Message | Report |
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Aj_habfan
posted 24/03/2009, 02:26
Still not even 1 sale in Europe? Floptastic. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 24/03/2009, 01:39
Agreed, the "Only on Xbox 360" stamp doesnt mean anything anymore. Enchanted Arms, Eternal Sonata and a few others had that same logo and they all went PS3 with alot more content and all that sort of thing. And yeah, poor SO4 this game deserves much more praise then this. im gonna right my review here on VG soon just beat the game last night. Message | Report |
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DiplomaticImmunity
posted 22/03/2009, 11:26
@ heavenly yeah it could come out in japan for ps3 probably this year, but i live in AMERICA and DONT KNOW JAPANESE, so still it would suck Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 22/03/2009, 06:29
nightsurge are you thinking of yakuza3 a ps3 game? or re5 on ps3 Message | Report |
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MetalSabe
posted 22/03/2009, 05:23
Yeah man it would have totally hit a million, just like Eternal Sonata. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 21/03/2009, 09:56
If this was for the PS3, in japan it would have reach 1M. Message | Report |
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Heavenly_King
posted 21/03/2009, 09:50
@DiplomaticImmunity If you realize in the boxart there is no "ONLY ON XBOX360" logo, so you could say it will eventually reach the PS3 by the end of this year. Message | Report |
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nightsurge
posted 21/03/2009, 07:58
Wait, I thought this had 320,000+ first week sales in Japan? Isn't that what all those early news articles said? What happened to those extra 160k! Message | Report |
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DiplomaticImmunity
posted 21/03/2009, 04:47
i wish this was for ps3 Message | Report |
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Slimebeast
posted 21/03/2009, 03:25
Slimebeast posted 13/12/2008, 09:04 "I perdict 84% on Gamerankings and 750,ooo copies lifetime sales." Currently it has 78% on GR and is on track to sell 550-600,000 copies lifetime. Message | Report |
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Munkeh111
posted 20/03/2009, 08:39
@ piggychan, we have to wait until June Message | Report |
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Aghahowa
posted 20/03/2009, 08:16
@ radha Why are Xbox360 JRPGs flopping hard? Which one sold on PS3 better? The well hyped White Knight Chronicles just sold~340.000 in Japan. If you now consider, that we have around 3.000.000 PS3´s in Japan, and just around 1.000.000 Xbox360s i dont see Star Ocean 4 "flopping hard". Also dont forget that the best selling JRPG is available on Xbox360, Lost Odyssey. Message | Report |
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piggychan
posted 20/03/2009, 05:08
hurry up and release this in uk already i dont care about global sales i just wanna play it!!! Message | Report |
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radha
posted 20/03/2009, 04:35
ok so JRPG on 360 keep flopping HARD Message | Report |
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cheese_man
posted 20/03/2009, 08:30
Wow those says are.. well horrible. I don't know if microsoft owns the right to this or whatever but I reckon there is a good chance that this will come to ps3 unless others does really well. Message | Report |
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Xbot
posted 20/03/2009, 02:46
lol @ sony fans Message | Report |
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Ari_Gold
posted 20/03/2009, 01:35
20% attach rate in japan, thats fuckin good Message | Report |
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superbeast1370
posted 19/03/2009, 11:58
congrats square, you made a COMPLETE ASS OUT OF YOURSELVES. Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 19/03/2009, 08:21
Square just can't reproduce its sales from last gen. Message | Report |
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SHMUPGurus
posted 19/03/2009, 01:51
Stealzing your space. lole. Message | Report |
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Smeags
posted 18/03/2009, 11:48
What is SHMUPGurus doing on that Boxart?! Message | Report |
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Riot Of The Blood
posted 18/03/2009, 07:13
I want something no less than Vesperia quality. I'm not sure if this game is on that level or not. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 17/03/2009, 09:21
Yup buy it, shadows right, and @Zen- np man it would be boring if everyone all liked the same thing so i respect your opinion. I like Tri-Ace games in general so thats one of many reasons why i favor Star Ocean: TLH over ToV so.. Message | Report |
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Shadowblind
posted 17/03/2009, 04:30
buy it. Message | Report |
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Riot Of The Blood
posted 16/03/2009, 09:00
Still iffy about buying this or not. Message | Report |
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AnarchyWest
posted 16/03/2009, 01:39
Congrats Square Enix Message | Report |
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ZenfoldorVGI
posted 16/03/2009, 01:02
@Seraphic You're wrong bro. So, so wrong. imo Message | Report |
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errorrrr
posted 14/03/2009, 10:05
worst leg in Japan I've seen for a while... 165k to 6k in 2 weeks... I wonder if it's going to catch up to Valkyria Chronicles lol... Message | Report |
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shinyuhadouken
posted 14/03/2009, 12:45
as long as it reaches 200,000 in japan alone, i'll be happy. Message | Report |
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Anben7
posted 13/03/2009, 05:30
so glad bought 360, even there is one on ps3, it probably takes at least a year to make it, so i guess the best way just go buy a 360..... Message | Report |
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Squall_Leonhart
posted 13/03/2009, 11:42
I wonder if SE will think about putting this game on the PS3 as well to increase the amount of sales that the game will get, as i would buy it and i'm sure a lot of other PS3 owners would! Message | Report |
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g-value
posted 13/03/2009, 04:05
@ Seraphic_Sixaxis But you told me you only played alittle bit of it before you gave up on it. You played all of Star Ocean 4 but like what an hour of ToV? If you did play the whole game and did not like it then i guess its just not your taste. Message | Report |
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Aj_habfan
posted 13/03/2009, 03:56
Those Japan legs are some of the worst I have ever seen. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 13/03/2009, 03:22
@G- I played tales of vesperia, it was far to anime-ish and the battle system was a boring rip-off of till the end of time. The story was okay i guess, but the characters were AWFUL, i'll remember characters from Enchanted Arms over ToV. So yes i have played ToV, and SO4 is far better in every way in my opinion. But dont mind me, i never liked tales games ever since Legendia so its only natural for me to loath them all afterwards. Message | Report |
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vspectra
posted 13/03/2009, 03:04
Would be selling more if SE actually had a world wide release. They pushed the date back again for Europe, now it's releasing in June. Message | Report |
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MonstaMack
posted 12/03/2009, 11:47
With current Trends it should outsell Blue Dragon in the long run, and compete with LO sales. Lost Odyssey is still the "king" of JRPG sales since the rest are WRPGs... till Final Fantasy comes out. Message | Report |
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TacoBoy49
posted 12/03/2009, 11:36
im 30 hrs in after giving it the benefit of the doubt. some interesting parts kept me playing, but after i sensed the totality of the entire game, i realized its just a really long episode of a really bad power ranger show. and just as annoying. ToV dealt with mature issues like friendship, racism,lloyalty, hope, and the classic good vs evil. it was one of the most moving rpgs since FF VIII. This game just sux! Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 12/03/2009, 08:07
Yeah i can see this selling well in its launch period and then some more over time. The great graphics will draw people, though i dont think itll do as well as TLR Message | Report |
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g-value
posted 12/03/2009, 07:28
@ Seraphic_Sixaxis You did not even play ToV so how do you know its better? I'm not saying ToV is better then Star Ocean but you can't claim a game is better when did not even play it. Message | Report |
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shinyuhadouken
posted 12/03/2009, 06:53
i hope it reaches at least 300k in the US. Message | Report |
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Barozi
posted 12/03/2009, 04:08
good 2nd week sales in the US !!! Message | Report |
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MetalSabe
posted 12/03/2009, 04:00
Taco Boy give it time, once I got used to controlling the camera I started enjoying it a lot more! (still don't like the toggle run though) The cutscenes even get better as the game progresses. I'm 15 hours in and really enjoying it. Not as consistnently polished as ToV but still a great game. Hopefully it slow burns it's way to good sales like Lost Odyssey. Message | Report |
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memory2zack
posted 12/03/2009, 03:38
290k in 2 weeks is not bad, but not great either for Star Ocean. Big drop in sales comes from Japan due to being a 360 exlusive. I wonder how it will fare in NA compared to SO3 and I wonder if the big releases of these weeks had any impact on it. Message | Report |
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TacoBoy49
posted 12/03/2009, 03:36
I have this game. Its painful to play. Tales of Vesperia is a million times better than this.I can't even begin to explain all its problems. I love Lost Odyssey more than Final Fantasy for those that think I'm trolling. Its justt fact. Its horrible. Message | Report |
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Fenristh
posted 12/03/2009, 03:20
No, it's not the JRPGs that need changing, it's putting them on a console without the fanbase for them. Message | Report |
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mrstickball
posted 12/03/2009, 02:55
Looks like SO4 has some legs in the US on it's 2nd week. Message | Report |
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hunter_alien
posted 12/03/2009, 02:41
Well there goes the chance for this game to pass the million mark IMO.. except if it will get bundled... to bad, it seems JRPGs arent this gens strongpoint :| Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 12/03/2009, 01:27
Star Ocean: The Last Hope > Tales of Vesperia and any other JRPG on the Xbox 360. Message | Report |
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g-value
posted 11/03/2009, 09:38
@ Eggbear If it was not for ToV releasing in japan first and helping sell out Xbox 360 across Japan Star Ocean would not have sold as much as it did. At the time ToV was released in japan around 600k Xbox 360 were sold in japan. Star Ocean got released when there is now 900k Xbox 360 sold. I think you get the differents. Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 11/03/2009, 04:46
@ Euphoria14 Its funny how the IP excuse seems to work in every way SO4 sold well - Buh buh teh IP! SO4 outsells ToV - LULZ lets forget the dozens of Tales games, because now SO is actually bigger! Blue Dragon sold well - Buh buh teh Sakaguchi Blue Dragon flops on DS - LULZ teh new IP! TLR sold well in Japan - Umm... Its funny how you claim to be so 'fair-minded' when in fact you are cherry picking. This game has blown the lid on ToV, Blue Dragon was the game that made people remember that the 360 even existed and not forgetting, THE IMMENSE marketing it got. Truth is this has sold well, and the proof is there, but offcourse, denial will come in on all fronts. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 11/03/2009, 03:11
@Hero_time88 way nice way to inject some humor into this wall of doom. Message | Report |
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Hero_time88
posted 10/03/2009, 10:17
Chris Hu, I won today in a basketball game from a 83 years old. I'm great! Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 10/03/2009, 05:41
The sales are so lousy that's why its already the second best selling 360 game in Japan LOL. People do your research before you start bashing a games sales numbers. Furthermore with less then two weeks complete data its way to early to judge the sales numbers of a game. Message | Report |
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TheInfectedBy590
posted 10/03/2009, 12:19
Is this coming to PS3? (I hope, it looks nice) Poor sales though :( Message | Report |
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bb
posted 10/03/2009, 11:54
@andrewclear posted 08/03/2009, 08:58 By the software that you compare, as for the software of PS3, "White Knight Chronicles" is big IP (this includes a development cost and the advertising cost). In addition, "Disgaea 3" and "Valkyria Chronicles" are not categories of the RPGs in Japan. However, all 360 software of the comparison is big IP (this includes a development cost and the advertising cost). This is meaningless. Let's compare it by the same software released for the same period. Message | Report |
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MonstaMack
posted 10/03/2009, 08:06
I don't know how much marketing Last Remnant or IU had, but I am seeing US commercials in CT. So this game should have good legs in the US if the word is getting out. Message | Report |
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Antagonist8503
posted 09/03/2009, 09:55
Well andrew, all I have to say is that Square Enix did not abandon Sony like you say. Final Fantasy Versus 13 proves that SE hasn't really abandoned Sony and left them out of the cold just yet. What about FF7:CC and FF:Dis - fighting game? Maybe Sony was just being smarter with what's being released for their console. But, most likely Microsoft is just paying SE to release JRPG's for their console first and then porting it to the PS3 later. Star Ocean 4 and the Last Remnant will most likely go to the PS3 with added content to make up for the timed exclusivity. Don't even argue about that, because the developers said that either of the 2 may or may not become multi-platform, but they DID not say that the 2 wouldn't. With that in mind, I can almost guarantee that once FF13:versus comes out, it's going to wipe all those games you listed off the map. Message | Report |
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Euphoria14
posted 09/03/2009, 06:14
@Eggman Not for nothing, but 220k is hardly something to brag about when Blue Dragon, which was a brand new IP on a smaller userbase at the time sells equal and/or better than Tri-ace's flagship title. Message | Report |
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Barozi
posted 09/03/2009, 04:30
Actually it's smarter to get cash from MS before the release of the game instead of waiting until the game made enough money after some months on another console. Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 09/03/2009, 01:57
TLR is overtracked, but whatever, its sold well, especially in Japan. Regardless, this week SO4 sold roughly 5k, its now at 190k solid. The thing is, i bet if it had better 'legs' and sold less, the fanboys wouldnt be whining, but whatever. Either way, the game has sold really well in Japan, and is going to get to 200k easy, if not 220k. That is fantastic, even ToV couldnt do that Thats the funny thing, fanboys call this a failure yet forget how ToV did, it sold well and yet is a bigger IP (fanboys will deny this too) The game has just started in NA, who knows how its going to sell over time? Both IU and TLR had weak openings and went onto do quite well. Message | Report |
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Jo21
posted 08/03/2009, 11:50
andrew japan sell double jrpg just look loo at so4 sales even with the bad economy. it would be a smart thing to release it on a more viable console in japan like the wii or the ps3. Message | Report |
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jpain333
posted 08/03/2009, 07:11
lol....i've never seen someone so desperate to prove TLR is undertracked... Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 08/03/2009, 05:07
andrew - nice comparison there.... NOT. TLR - not at 600k SE's reports prove that. BD - heavily bundled in japan (shouldnt effect the total too much but it should be notted) disgea3 a very very niche game selling close to ToV a main story tales game? thats poor sales for tales. did you expect demons soul to do well in japan? i think you should reconsider that. as for VC that game sold 150k more than disgea 3. obviously very successful for that type of game. only successful game you show is LO and WKC already is more than a third of its sales with only on small region. now i dont believe so4 would have done 450k first week in japan alone but looking at yakuza 3 resident evil 5 im sure it could of more than doubled its first weeks sales. Message | Report |
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andrewclear
posted 08/03/2009, 09:07
I also forgot to mention that JRPGs sold more in japan than america last generation. This generation, they just aren't selling well in Japan, unless they are on a handheld. America is the country buying these games, so the 360 is the logical choice for the platform. Message | Report |
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andrewclear
posted 08/03/2009, 08:58
" NSS7 posted 06/03/2009, 04:03 If this game was on PS3 it would sell at least 450k 1st week in Japan and 40k in US. Also in others PS3 games always sellng more than X360 ver except shooter. Square Enix, you made a wrong decision for making SO4 X360 exclusive. Better if they made it multiplat." What crack are you smoking. The PS3's rpg sales are rather pathetic. Disgaea 3 = 210k (without europe) White Knight Chronicles = 340k (only japan) Valkyria Chronicles = 360k (which is a shame cause it's a damn good game). Demon Soul's = 80k (only japan) Now...for comparison, let's look at 360 sales. Star Ocean only had 40k less sales in it's opening week (in Japan) compared to White Knight Chronicles. They actually ran out of stock for Star Ocean in Japan, and the ps3 has a bigger user base (by 2 million users). Don't think that translates to well when it's only a difference of 40k. Last Remnant = 600k Tales of Vesperia = 290k (no europe) Infinite Undiscovery = 470k Blue Dragon = 620k Lost Odyssey = 910k And eternal sonata sold more on the 360 than ps3. Not only does the 360 have more JRPGs, they also have better sales with their JRPGs. Star Ocean should surpass Last Remnants sales over time, so getting close to 1 million isn't out the question. Sure Star Ocean 3 sold more, but considering the size of the PS2 base against the 360 base, 1 million for the Last Hope is great. PS3 fanboys need to stop crying cause sony dropped the ball this generation. The japanese developers abandoned sony for a reason, and the sales figures don't lie. One more note, most JRPGs on the ps2 didn't reach 1 million, so you can't really call blue dragon, Last Remnant, Tales of Vesperia, or Eternal Sonata failures. They sold what they should've. And in some cases (Last Remnant), they are selling better than they should be. Message | Report |
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SHMUPGurus
posted 08/03/2009, 03:42
I just finished the game yesterday, and I will say this: Best JRPG this generation. Simply outstanding work tri-Ace! Since I'm so much into the SO series because of this game (and First Departure), I'm now playing Star Ocean: Till the End of Time. I might actually finish it this time around! xD Message | Report |
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vspectra
posted 08/03/2009, 12:07
It's doing the same as Lost Odyssey's first week sales, and this is without EU's numbers. It's far from a failure, especially for a JRPG on a western console... Message | Report |
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pslee
posted 07/03/2009, 06:05
i think sony doesn't care about this game. they got ff13 exclusive in japan on ps3. compared to ff13, SO series are not comparable. Message | Report |
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Jo21
posted 07/03/2009, 01:09
360 sales games in japan aren't stellar to begin with. if you can't compare it to lowest selling JRPG because WKC is over 330k Message | Report |
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charts845
posted 06/03/2009, 07:26
A 360 release means strong worldwide sales. They made the right choice, give it time. Message | Report |
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NSS7
posted 06/03/2009, 04:03
If this game was on PS3 it would sell at least 450k 1st week in Japan and 40k in US. Also in others PS3 games always sellng more than X360 ver except shooter. Square Enix, you made a wrong decision for making SO4 X360 exclusive. Better if they made it multiplat. Message | Report |
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Chris Hu
posted 06/03/2009, 02:56
Totally agree with Gearbox this game is already #2 in Japan when it comes to 360 games and is only two to three weeks away from being #1. If you really think that it did bad sales wise guess what all publisher that release games for the 360 in Japan would kill for similar bad sales. Message | Report |
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MetalSabe
posted 06/03/2009, 10:03
Buying it this week, cant wait! Message | Report |
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TheTruthHurts!
posted 06/03/2009, 05:37
Star Ocean 4 is a fantastic edition to the console leading this Gen in RPG's! Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 06/03/2009, 05:21
Star Ocean: TLH > All Other JRPG's this gen. nuff said. Message | Report |
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Gearbox
posted 06/03/2009, 03:03
ahahahahaha jealous of what? anyways this is already the 2nd most bought 360 game in japan. so all u people pointing out it droped to 20k can go suck urselves cause welll it surpassed everything else but Blue Dragon (WHICH SUCKS :P) Message | Report |
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Nightmare24
posted 06/03/2009, 02:15
wow sony fanboys always trying to put 360 owners down, sony fanboys are just jealous Message | Report |
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haxxiy
posted 05/03/2009, 07:12
no legs but come on lets just enjoy the game Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 05/03/2009, 07:00
mrstickball - im sure brett overtracked tlr during the christmas period to undertrack it afterwards am i right? 490k shipped by the end of december. Brett has 453k sold by that time. considering its a brand new release and holiday period i expect at least 150 on shelves WW. considering they were so quick to slash price i doubt there would be any less than 150k on shelves. Message | Report |
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jpain333
posted 05/03/2009, 06:17
360 fans are busy playing and enjoying the game while sony fanboys come here complaining about sales lol. Give the game sometime, lets see how the sales go... Message | Report |
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Infamous
posted 05/03/2009, 05:38
Sold out in Japan on the second day, well deserved! Best JRPG so far this gen. Message | Report |
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Hero_time88
posted 05/03/2009, 04:41
The question why they would have shipped new copies of TLR, when the game wasn't selling at all and they did even cut the price after a week or so. Message | Report |
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Barozi
posted 05/03/2009, 04:08
it will reach 1 million. Just wait and see. Message | Report |
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mrstickball
posted 05/03/2009, 03:42
Max - prove VGC is off on TLR sales. Last I checked, SE said that TLR shipped 490k as of December. It's March now. Interestingly enough, Star Ocean 4 has the highest debut of any JRPG within the 360 library. It beat Lost Odyssey by a few hundred, and still hasn't released in PAL. Message | Report |
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lalapin0810
posted 05/03/2009, 03:40
totally bomb !!!!!!!!!! Message | Report |
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hatmoza 2.0
posted 05/03/2009, 03:40
OUCH ! Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 05/03/2009, 03:23
egghead tlr sales are way off on vgc. se reports prove that Message | Report |
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Hero_time88
posted 05/03/2009, 03:02
Great first week sales. It has "almost" sold as much as SO3 did back then during the first week in Japan alone. Message | Report |
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GooseGaws
posted 05/03/2009, 12:54
@Onna76: Where do you get the idea that SO3 was a million seller in Japan? It wasn't even close, and it actually sold more in North America. Message | Report |
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TyePhoid_PAL
posted 05/03/2009, 12:25
I'll pick this up if its released on the Playstation Message | Report |
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Egghead
posted 05/03/2009, 11:37
Right offcourse, because an average start means bad sales, i suggest people go take a look at TLR. As usual, the PS3 fanboys are already here claiming their version will sell the same... Message | Report |
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frictionini
posted 05/03/2009, 11:10
bad sales for NA. Bad legs for JP. Seems like no one will point out some crappy installbase argument here for a while hehe... Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 05/03/2009, 09:54
PS3 director's cut version is very possible from what im playing and see'n in the game so far. Message | Report |
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*~Onna76~*
posted 05/03/2009, 09:14
ROTFL. To think that SOIII sold over a million in Japan, oh yeah million seller confirmed.... not. PS3 director's cut version confirmed. Message | Report |
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FaRmLaNd
posted 05/03/2009, 09:06
RPG's from the west are selling very well. Its the Japanese ones that aren't doing that well. Message | Report |
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jonnhytesta
posted 05/03/2009, 08:12
this is sad. this means less hd rpgs and even more handles rpgs wich i really dislike. Message | Report |
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shinyuhadouken
posted 05/03/2009, 07:35
rpgs aren't selling this gen Message | Report |
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MetalSabe
posted 05/03/2009, 06:34
Buying this next week, hope it sells well over all. I'm certain it'll be awesome. Message | Report |
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outlawauron
posted 05/03/2009, 05:08
@ charts Shoot, this is one of the few titles that I have actually seen a commercial for. Message | Report |
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snyperdud
posted 05/03/2009, 05:04
Why the low sales? I see ads constantly in the US. I thought it would sell fairly well. Message | Report |
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Max King of the Wild
posted 05/03/2009, 04:45
.25 down 1.5 to go Message | Report |
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charts845
posted 05/03/2009, 04:17
Square-Enix's marketing this gen just isn't what it used to be. They seem hesitant to release footage throughout a game's development and they tend to keep their games hidden to a Western audience, which unfortunately leaves us in the dark. Message | Report |
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AE86
posted 05/03/2009, 02:48
Bomba, what a shame. Message | Report |
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Seraphic_Sixaxis
posted 05/03/2009, 02:32
Wtf... i just realized the sales = unimpressive... WTF........ This game better not turn out to be like Valkyria Chronicles in terms of sales. To many really great JRPG's this gen are getting the shaft... And the title "The Last Hope" is quite blunt to the point.... If this doesnt sell well this will indeed be the last star ocean game which would suck cause i want a Sequel to till the end of time. :L Message | Report |
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ethomaz
posted 05/03/2009, 02:16
Star Ocean fail in X360, and now Square??? Message | Report |
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Riachu
posted 05/03/2009, 02:14
Square Enix do everything to make their games appeal to Western markets yet sales see little increase. Message | Report |
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SinZinDetta
posted 05/03/2009, 02:11
New generation of gamers don't appreciate JRPG games like the old generation did on the older systems. Sad Message | Report |
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naspel158
posted 05/03/2009, 02:01
faaaaaaail number Message | Report |
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badgenome
posted 05/03/2009, 01:21
Pretty poor numbers.  Too bad, it's a great game. Message | Report |
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Strategyking92
posted 05/03/2009, 12:40
250k japan, 200k US, 150k Europe. well, that's the "last" hope. Message | Report |
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Riachu
posted 05/03/2009, 12:04
This game failed. I expected better from this game. I am talking about sales, not quality. I didn't even play it yet. I know Killzone 2 came out last week but that didn't mean that SO4 couldn't pull a 100Ker like LO. Besides, I'd imagine that SO3 had better first week sales. Message | Report |
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reviniente
posted 29/11/2017, 05:26
Always thought this was a weird cover for a Star Ocean game. At least in the west, that is. Message | Report |
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Nightwish224
posted 09/02/2010, 03:23
Looks like the 360 version is still coming out on top. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=BVNav&from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fd.hatena.ne.jp%2Fyoda-dip-jp%2Fsearchdiary%3Fword%3D%252a%255bGame%2520Compare%255d Message | Report |
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