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Thanx kowen! So, when do you think 360 will have positive YoY figures?



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@kowenicki

how quickly will ps3 go down to 0% up YOY after the slim launch ina comparable timeframe? (say PS3 does 15% above 2008 numbers for this holiday)



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kowenicki said:
djs said:
Thanx kowen! So, when do you think 360 will have positive YoY figures?


absolutely no idea...

perhaps August/September ?

This could well end up the best year for 360 so far. If natal works fine.



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kowenicki said:
darthdevidem01 said:
@kowenicki

how quickly will ps3 go down to 0% up YOY after the slim launch ina comparable timeframe? (say PS3 does 15% above 2008 numbers for this holiday)


It will lose about 650k in just two weeks:  weeks ending 7th Sept and 14th Sept

then around 50k to 60k per week I reckon for around 7 or 8 weeks... but then you are into pre holiday numbers.... anything could happen.

so they will lose between 1 and 1.3m of whatever improvement they have garnered by then.

wow thanks for doing the calculations

right so they COULD still end up YOY. Thats good to hear. Of course GT5 spike will help PS3 a lot....but last decembers FF13 spike of like 150K - 200K consoles will make it lose a lot again

lets see it'll be very interesting!

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lol if that happens.......15 Million confirmed for the year!!



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djs said:
kowenicki said:
djs said:
Thanx kowen! So, when do you think 360 will have positive YoY figures?


absolutely no idea...

perhaps August/September ?

This could well end up the best year for 360 so far. If natal works fine.

a big 'if'. I think xbox's success this year rest mainly on Halo Reach.



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djs said:
kowenicki said:
djs said:
Thanx kowen! So, when do you think 360 will have positive YoY figures?


absolutely no idea...

perhaps August/September ?

This could well end up the best year for 360 so far. If natal works fine.

a big 'if'. I think xbox's success this year rest mainly on Halo Reach.

Is that so when Halo Reach comes out and it does absoloutely nothing for hardware (and it won't) you can say ooh xbox is failing.

 

Ridiculous to think Reach will have more impact than Natal this holiday ...



 

kowenicki said:


It will lose about 650k in just two weeks:  weeks ending 7th Sept and 14th Sept

then around 50k to 60k per week I reckon for around 7 or 8 weeks... but then you are into pre holiday numbers.... anything could happen.

so they will lose between 1 and 1.3m of whatever improvement they have garnered by then.

Depends on the influence of Move. If it works, it could soften the drop by the slim introduction quite a bit..(and Sony seems to think so, given they manufacture 2mio units more this fj).



kowenicki said:
drkohler said:
kowenicki said:


It will lose about 650k in just two weeks:  weeks ending 7th Sept and 14th Sept

then around 50k to 60k per week I reckon for around 7 or 8 weeks... but then you are into pre holiday numbers.... anything could happen.

so they will lose between 1 and 1.3m of whatever improvement they have garnered by then.

Depends on the influence of Move. If it works, it could soften the drop by the slim introduction quite a bit..(and Sony seems to think so, given they manufacture 2mio units more this fj


the slim sold nearly 1 million units in a 2 week period at the start of september...

Move wont do anything remotely like that... nowhere near.

That is not relevant in the long term (and nobody at Sony thinks that Move will level out the slim launch). Of course the gap will be big in the first two weeks, when everybody "had" to get the slim last year. However, if move pushes up demand by say, 10%, over all weeks into fj 2011, then we look at somethng like:

up to September +2mio

slim influence the first weeks +move influence -1.5mio

move influence after that + 1mio

These are my rudimentary estimates, which would give a +1.5mio units sale increase (again, Sony thinks more optimistic with +2mio units manufactured).