Square-Enix - Final Fantasy VII Remake Would Take 10+ Years - News
by VGChartz Staff , posted on 19 February 2010 / 9,477 Views
In a recent interview with TechDigest, the Director and Producer of Final Fantasy XIII, Motuma Toriyama and Yoshinori Kitase, were asked (surprisngly!) a question about Final Fantasy VII Remake.
I know, i was shocked too!
Anyway... The answer to the question is particularly interesting. Apparently, a Final Fantasy VII Remake would take over 10 years to create if work started now.
Yoshinori's answer is as follows -
"If it were possible that we had all the right facilities and the right environment to be able to make and prepare a Final Fantasy VII remake within a year, we'd very much like a go at it! But even Final Fantasy XIII has taken over three and a half years to create. If we were to recreate Final Fantasy VII with the same level of graphical detail as you see in Final Fantasy XIII, we'd imagine that that would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together! So it's looking pretty unrealistic! But if any such situation came about by any remote chance, then yes, we'd do it!"
Final Fantasy XIII took 3 and a half years. Times that time by 3, and you get 10 1/2 Years. Hell maybe even 14 years development time if you take the "four times" part.
I call bullcrap on this one, but then again, i have never created a videogame so... I don't really know what i'm talking about.
Thoughts?
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FF7 to huge, and open = too long too remake maybe?
unrealistic.
FF13 is from scratch and it took 3.5 years
7 has already been created, remakeing it would not take 10 years.
Developing an enhanced remane of final fantasy VII would take a long time, yes. But 10 years is just exaggerrating.
5 years yes
10 years not believable.
with a game as high demanded as ff7 remake, it only makes sense to make it :|
SE are bunch of idiots.
If that's true then there most likely are making a sequel right now or will be.
dear squarenix,
STFU AND GTFO
10 years? who's gonna give a flying fck by then just make a gatdam sequel a remake isn't worth waiting that long
That's a ridiculous statement. I mean, ridiculous!
For crying out loud lol
He is trying to imply something, I dont think they would release just FF7 by itself, i think what he is trying to say is that if it takes them 5 years to make FF for any console, add that with FF7, it would take as long or much more.
If i am not mistaken, they feel as if it is not worth it because it would not generate sales as they expect, considering the time it takes to develop .
How funny is this actually!? FF7 will take 10+ years!? Meanwhile new intellectual properties like Mass Effect are made in 5-6 years. This is laughable. The problem is that Japanese developers don't have the resources or manpower to make a FF7 remake now or maybe ever. Its sad cause they should have never made that FF7 preview on the PS3 hardware.
This is BS cause if it took 3 and a half to make FF13 and lets just say a remake of FF7 would be bigger in size how long would that take? Seriously? At most that would take another 2 years...PLUS you don't have to come up with a story nor characters! The only way it would take 10 years to make it is if people at Square Enix are lazy as hell or they plan on making the remake a never-ending game.
Like if anyone would bite it. Two years at most.
Wtf... i sense a total BS, it might be funny to see what they're going to say when the game will be released in 2~3 years.
That's a bunch of bs. FF7 is much smaller in scale than most FF games.
Unless they decide to change the world map and create a world map such as the one in FF12 or the type created in FF10 where the world map itself is its own dungeon, then yes it'll take much longer, but not 10 years, or even 14 years longer.
At most it'd probably take just as long as FF13. It isn't like FF7 wasn't one of the best looking games at the time of its release. Yes the PS3 is new hardware, but at the time so was the PSX.
If people really really really want this remake then just do a donation and everyone that what a remake should donate $100 to SE. I'm not donatiing a penny cause I don't care for a remake.
How big is their team? Is it a garage project or what?
Just say no to asking or speaking about a possible FFVII remake.
What he is saying in general is that is not even worth doing it ><
They are struggling with FF series and their development team, why would they remake FF7....that's what i got from him.
yo, with all the next gen. games out there right now and coming up, FFVII would be nice but it's not even a twinkle in my gaming eye right now. With FFXIII dropping in ratings everyday, SE should be worrying about making a real next gen. FF game in the FF way of gaming. Not like the linear side scroller FFXIII turned out to be
If this is true I think it was a bad idea making that tech demo. All that does now is piss off fans of the game that were hoping to see FFVII remade.
So despite the fact that they have already done the work on the game engine and the story it would still take them 3 times as long as XIII. It's very hard to take them seriously when they come up with crap like this.
Lost Odyssey had towns. AND A WORLD MAP! (Like FF7). Not on foot but when you get the boat and airship.
So, following his logics, FF XIII content has at the most 1/3 of FF VII content ...
interresting ...
LOL...they must have some octogenarian programmers at SE :)
They are doing a FFVII remake imo. In the past they would just say, "no, we're not working on one." In the past few months they've been dropping a bunch of nonsense quotes about how mission impossible it would be to do. This 10 years quote takes the cake.
Man Square loves to talk shit.
I call bullcrap on this one [2]
That comment from SE about cites and environment is total BS.
I remember several games of this gen who had wonderfully designed cites.
GTA4?
Lost Odyssey?
the Last Remnant? Damn, that was even developed by yourself, SE!
Square-Enix should fire their PR managers. All they said in the last months was contradictory and complete and utter BS.
So this means squeare will only create linear RPG (read crap) from now on?????!!!!!!!!!!
The only reason why it took FFXIII that long is they created 3 game engines. White engine specifically made for PS3 then the Crystal tools engine for both PS3 and Xbox and another game engine made just for the Xbox to run FFXIII since the Crystal tools still ain't cut to run on Xbox.
i think u guys need to stop bull****ing the guy and go play FF 7 now and u will know what he means. he has a point, may be its not nice of him saying the whole truth and i believe its true a remake will take triple the time, although i dream of FF7 remake.
ok
- they have the characters, just redesign
- they have the story
- dialoges need a little adjustment to sound better with voice acting
- battle system they will have to change completely its really good in FF7 but we all know development should happen and its better in FF 10,12,13 more interactive with the same techtics style and they have to take it one step forward like always (ofcours same for the upgrade system).
*** this is the main reason: FF7 had alot of enviroments, cities, towns, characters to talk with many and i mean many side quest. the game was massive. cities were really large with alot of buildings and rooms (all in cheap 2d ofcourse). although i was really exited playing the game back then but i remember beggin for the first disk end. i know the second was shorter with more videos and the third was just a fight and an ending. but overall FF10,12, and i know 13 are alot smaller in metrial. doing the massive FF7 with the new engins and details on each character in the game with the voice acting and the number of enemies, delatils on building and enviroments, i believe it will take more than 7 years and i think two dual layer blue rays. and remeber guys FF8 was 4 disks just becoz the character designs (look at exploring mode cloud and exploring mode squal) and enviroments and number of FMVs but even FF8 was less in material (towns cities and characters).
taking more than 7 years means going through the next gen and stop at FF14 till FF7 take its time and begin all over to adjust to the next gen PS4. its true i think seeing FF7 remake this gen is out of question only if Square triple its resource (crew, computers,...) may be development in game industry in a certain way would help developers do designs, graphics and details faster, other than that FF7 will always take a whole gen time to develope. like i said GO PLAY FF7 and u will believe me
so that means, FFXIII was 'nothing' compared to 7? .. isnt Square telling that FFXIII sucks Balls in comparision right now?
@time:
it would never take over 10 Years, not even 5. okay, if you give the job to do that to a two-man-team, then yes, but otherwise, no.
i know a way to save them time and money for the remake and future Final Fantasy Games:
Use background Pictures for the Towns again!
i don't care if the Towns are in full detailed 3D or you just walk through a Picture like in FFVII, its the interaction with the people in the towns i want, nothing else!
So in other words greater technology is leading to the dumbing down of games in other ways?
Or perhaps they're just using the technology inefficiently.
Pay them some bucks and they will make it in a half of a minute.
The charterers are ready, the storyline is ready, the battle system is ready, the environment is ready, and the only thing left is the graphics with better sounds. so yeah this is bullcrap.
I dont think we should take this seriously. Thasts just rough answer from question that already been told millions times. I think there were tired with FFVII remake and make this statemnet to shut up everyone. This shows SE would never remake FFVII. If they did it wont not take 10 years. I can say 5-6 years at most.
this is silly they already have an engine, and now they have the knowledge as well, last time they said they was going to do another FF, they said development time would take them less because after FF XIII they know how to do things better PS3 wise now.
you guys make such a fuss then someone comes with the right translation and everybody looks like a fool...just saying.
Why they should make a remake? they skould make a epic new game. Remakes are too much from Squeneidos.
Total
Complete
Utter
BULL****.
1.They have experience with next-gen hardware.
2.everything is written out and designed already, only minor tweaking is needed.
3.The game would sell like HOTCAKES, making the time investment more than worthwhile!
lol what a bunch of shit
Yes, Square, it took you about 10 years to fall from grace.
..Or 3-4 for a decent developer studio.
I'm betting they started it 5 years ago already! I'd put money on it! FF7 PS3 Tech Demo anyone. I'm being realistic what was honestly the point of making a Tech Demo just to piss off all there fans!
How long if they decide to make it multiplat then? :-P
Square Enix.....the house of excuses.
Sorry Valve you've been evicted.
Maybe if they didn't have so many teams porting shit over to DS/PSP/iPhone and whatever platform they can put FFI and FFII on, they'd have the time to port FFVII to PS3
.... if they want to make it to the same level as FF13 in terms of graphics, sound and presentation, then yes it would take 10 years. If they settle for a half-ass remake with more poly count, then no.. it would take a year or so. But seriously people, any remake that lacks fully voiced npcs, camera control, HD textures and models is not a worth remaking, get that into your thick skulls.
Why people want a remake? I don't. Enjoy the new FF games coming out. Stop wanting the developers to do so much.
@opa-opa
It's because of the butt-fugly graphics of the PS1.
They aged badly every single game released at that time, specially early generation ones like FF7. PS1 is the NES of 3D graphics... it's just embarassing to look nowadays (NES lovers, including myself, you know it's true!).
So it's embarassing for the fans that their "greatest game of time" have such ugly presentation - besides, cloud has popeye arms, no one can stand that - they REALLY should remake that!
I know I don't post much, but I have to agree with my fellow when I say, "What just came out the devs mouths, if you put that in the garden, things will grow."
gah, why do people want a remake of this so bad anyway?
isn't fine in its original, intended state?
Good thing the PS3 is on a 10 year plan then ;)
So then... are they saying that FFXIII is 1/3 the game that FFVII was?
Do they have 5 people working on it too take that long? Look at U2's detail. That only took 2 years.
Their excuses are laughable. Not only because it shows how unwilling they are at wanting to make a game that fans desperately want, but also because they're basically slapping those same fans in the face over and over again with these same comments. But also because of the seemingly hypocritical statements they're making with these statements, trying to pass off a FFVII remake as 'too hard' and 'too much work' while stating FFXIII is 'the best FF yet' and 'the best game ever made'.
How could a FFVII remake, which was a PSX game and could be made based on whatever benchmarks they set, take more effort than FFXIII, a game they themselves said went over budget and was suppose to be BETTER than FFVII?
lets all stop saying that already having the engine will reduce time by much. ITS THE UNREAL ENGINE THEY NEVER MADE ONE FROM SCRATCH. they would however have a battle system in place already
it'd be worth it. economically
So what, it took them a year to do that tech demo?
They already have the scenarios, narrative, basic gameplay ideas, and engine in place. What on earth could take them so long.
What... do they want to make a huge, complete, highly detailed 3D model of Midgar? It would be awesome, but that is the only reason I can think of that would make it take 10+ years to create.
They made an entirely new engine, and worked on a completely NEW 60 hour game known as FF XIII, but they can't remake a game already finished and one that is only about 30 hours long..
How does it take 10 years if FFXIII took 3.5? Also, they have an engine for FFXIII which would reduce the time too...
Then remake it for DS2 or PSP2 or something. It doesn't have to look like FFXIII, just throw it out there, I'll buy it, I promise.
I wish they would release an updated 16x9 collection of every FF on the Playstation 1 and 2. I'd pay loads for that.
Then they better get started now. They can have it out by 2020.
I agree with people saying that Square-Enix - the people who create final fantasy and games in general - would know more about this than we do.
But I call BS because they don't seem to be honest and are just saying whatever to help themselves somehow (like why ff 13 has less towns).
Lost Odyssey had towns. What a bunch of bull.
Guys, this has NOTHING to do with coding. Its simply scope/size of the world - and the number of cities/areas within FFVII. The asset generation is what takes the time, and costs the money - not the coding.
I guess this means that it would take 10 years to make a sequel to Legend of Dragoon. Well, this finally answers all the questions about their being a remake.
That just means they suck. They are out of date programmers, and cannot learn new tricks.
I think I do understand what he means with his statement. It would be hard to try and recreate the world of Midgar (sp? I haven't played FFVII because I wasn't interested in FF in the past until I played XI, and I didn't own a PS1 and/or PS2) with more detail than ever. Yet they do have the engine/tools to recreate everything (maybe using the character models from Advent Children). I mean, I do think the development team probably busted their chops on FFXIII with that long development process and would deserve a break. Afterall, it's humans who have the talent to use the tools (computer, engines, resources...) to create such things. You have to respect others, and they may need rest. Of course they could still plan everything out for later, but wouldn't people want a FFXV instead of a remake of FFVII? A remake is given for the future, but it will be easier once technology becomes more advanced and simpler to use.
Unless you have ever been a part of the video game making process then your opinions are mostly hollow.
Anyone with common sense can tell this is BS, as was the excuse based on towns. As far as towns go, if a PS1 game, like say Driver can pretty much create a replica of an entire city, than the PS3 can pull off the towns from FF7. All of the GTA games have pretty big cities to explore and let's face it, FF7's towns weren't really all that big to begin with. Not the parts you get to explore, anyway. Most, if not all, could fit within the city found in one of those GTA games. Now, if they are thinking of towns + world map, isn't that kinda hypocritical since FFV13 is supposed to have both of those?
This new one of it taking around 10-14 years is even bigger BS. I'd estimate that at least half of the development of a game is taken up by the concept phase, i.e. story, character creation and development, level design. All of that is already done for FF7, minus a few tweaks to improve certain aspects of the game. They have a game coming out, FFV13, who's engine apparently can handle the "complexity" of towns and a world map, so they can just use it. I'd bet that given a relatively good size team, that FF7 Remake would take no longer than FF13. Most likely a shorter time, considering the game was started on PS2 and had to make the jump to PS3.
I say give the game to the FFV13 team when they are done with that game. And if not, hell, let Sony make it.
Are u serious?
So, in other words, we're never going to see another good Final Fantasy game ever again, all we're going to see is linear crud like FFXIII. Nice.
wouldn't take long if they still used pre-rendered backrounds. If they had to re-create all of those backrounds in 3D that would take a very very long time, although not 10 years. The game is built around the pre-rendered backrounds so changing it would change the entire game. I don't think it's a good idea to make those kind of huge changes, just make the pre-rendered backrounds better looking and have awesome looking 3d models.
It would definitely take that long, which shows you how much less of a game 13 is compared to 7. 3d design takes forever for that amount of content. Who says it needsto be full hd 3d, why cant it be the same style as the first time, just updates, and VG if you dont like me posting twice, then add a freaking edit button to previous posts.
I dont want a ffxiii style ff7 remake, i want it to look and play exactly like the first game, with super HD graphics, I dont care if they use art for ackgrounds and such like the first game, I dont need a 3d spining camera
I don't think it'd take that long, but i can realistically see a 5-6 year development cycle.
Yeah that's blatant crap as they have the plot and setting etc all ready laid out...
lol shut up square enix. You're stupid
Enough with the FF7 remake people .....jeesh what the fuck
They could easily use the same engine and much of the same graphical assets developed for FFXIII.
It would take two years of solid development I suspect, three at the outside.
"Square Enix takes too long to make games.
I bet Activision could pull off that in 4 years."
EA can do that in 2, considering how they pushes their developers.
Lol, man this sounds like something a Sony exec could've said. XD
@Naum
Yeah, if Nintendo are lazy then I think we need to invent a new word for Square-Enix. Ugh...
Deep breath, deep breath, deep breath
I'm seriously pissed of at them right now, making one lame excuse after another. I mean, what?
Towns are to much work, if they would remake FFVII it probably wouldn't get released before 2020...
What's next?
Final Fantasy 7 remake PS5 launch title confirmed
Hell, all they need to do is bust out a new engine!
And people say that Nintendo is lazy :-)
not true at all
So FF VII is 3 to 4 times better than FF XIII confirmed!
They are so full of shit it's pouring out of their mouths.
Square Enix takes too long to make games.
I bet Activision could pull off that in 4 years.
They already have the engine (which they created for XIII), they already have a large number of models and other technical aspects (which can be taken from XIII), and they already have the entire battle system, plot/story, game mechanics, and cast (which all need not be altered from the original VII).
Yes, it's bull. They just don't know how to make anything simple.
Well, he probably means this: with a crew the size of FF 13 it would take 10 years to create it.
Contrary to popular belief here, the town's are not created, there might be some rough 3D models somewhere with basic geometry - but the pre rendered BGs in the game are just that, pre rendered and then painstakingly painted over by an artist. So art asset wise they'd be starting from scratch - only the "concept design" stage being done.
That's the thing for modern games, they do a lot of re-use - back when they pre rendered everything - everythign was completely unique so there's waaaaay more variety of world.
So yeah, for sure, if they hired 600 artists full time for 2-3 years, they could create the game to FF13 level, but the cost would be the same as paying the smaller FF13 team for 10 years work.
So, this shows how much less content (gamewise) there is in FF XIII compared to VII? Make me less interested in FF XIII.
How about a remake of FF VII on Wii. That should take less time. :)
LOL is this the same reason why duke nukem forever never come out.
everytime it got moved up to next gen it would take them 3x as long to recreate it?
It's an exagerration... but when you consider all the unique assets and such...
It likely would take at least as long as 13.
