Analyst: Xbox One Could Ship Up to 3x More Than the PS4 This Year

by William D'Angelo, posted on 23 July 2013 / 10,448 Views

Baird analyst Colin Sebastian in an investors note today has stated that the Xbox One has been gaining momentum since Microsoft changed the restriction on used games sales and eliminated the DRM. He even believes that Microsoft may be able to ship two to three times as many consoles as Sony this year.

"Despite losing the headline battle at E3, Microsoft's Xbox One appears to be regaining some momentum, in part due to the used and online policy tweaks," said Sebastian. "Importantly, our supply chain checks suggest Microsoft may have the benefit of a 2-3x unit advantage at launch compared to Sony's PS4."

He added that the core audience who will be picking up the majority of launch consoles care less about the price gap between the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Microsoft is currently working with retailer to "lessen the gap" between the two consoles.

Sebastian noted that this holiday season is critical for the success of the Wii U. The Wii U needs a price cut and sales also depend on how successful "Nintendo's holiday software lineup" is.


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bsp77 (on 23 July 2013)

This is propaganda. I work at a major retailer, and PS4 pre-orders are triple XBone.


late_release (on 24 July 2013)

I particularly liked when say X-Bone, sounds like the Jurassic, something old and obsolete x)


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ND3G (on 24 July 2013)

You don't read so well do you. The article states that Microsoft will be able to ship 2 to 3 times more units, that has nothing to do with how many people preorder. Though, if people are forced to wait a few weeks or months for a PS4 and the Xbox One is readily available I foresee more than a few people dropping their PS4 preorders and picking up an Xbox One instead.


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WagnerPaiva (on 23 July 2013)

Propaganda indeed, the Microsoft hype machine is back online now that Don Matrick is gone


Blood_Tears (on 23 July 2013)

3 time more? wow, alot of XBones sitting on shelves then.


eFKac (on 23 July 2013)

So now they are trying to lessen the gap, but they will be ready to outship them times three until the end of the year? Seems legit mr Sebastian.


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eFKac (on 23 July 2013)

But earlier he says that the core audience that will be buying consoles at launch doesn't care about the price gap. So I think if he would be refering to the price gap that they try to lessen, that would be pretty illogical, don't you think? I believe he reffers to console shipments both times and I think this won't come true, given the statements that the PS4 shipped a lot of units, while the Xbone was highly supply constrained. We will see though.


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Vashyo (on 23 July 2013)

The magic keyword is "Could"


Blood_Tears (on 23 July 2013)

No no, it's Magic Cloud..


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zwei (on 23 July 2013)

xbox one is going to be the major fail in history of videogames.


scottie (on 23 July 2013)

If I had a dollar for every time. The title says "3x more" The article says 2-3x. 2-3x is 1-2x more, not 3x more. If I have 20 apples, and you have 10, I have 2x as many as you, but only 1x more. If I have 11 apples, and you have 10, I have 1.1x as many as you do, but only 0.1x more. Multiply the numbers by 100, then think of it like percentages. If I have 20 apples and you have 10, I have 200% as many as you do, but only 100% more than you.


ganoncrotch (on 24 July 2013)

this is a report just on microsofts supply lines and how many they'll ship before launch, I could say between now and Christmas I will visit the bathroom 1000 times, that doesn't suggest anyone will want to purchase what I produce in there. Also to say that it's popularity has risen since E3 well... it would be hard for it not to be higher than that?


teamsilent13 (on 24 July 2013)

Actually the price difference is a big thing for me when none of the exclusives do it for me.


r3tr0gam3r1337 (on 24 July 2013)

i don't see how they can ship 3x more than ps4 with rumours circulating that microsoft are still messing around with the xbones hardware, apparently one rumour is they are adding 4gb more ram (again just a rumour) but if this is true no xbones will go into production until all the testing is done, with such a short manufacturing time period how the hell does microsoft plan on shipping 3x more xbone's than ps4's, here hoping that microsoft learnt their lesson with the 360 by testing the system before releasing it. just one more thing, microsoft will have to deliver this time as if the console does not perform and has constant problems AMD will not be happy as people will instantly blame or even avoid AMD hardware, i hope to hell microsoft changes the cooling method they have in their test systems as the cooling looks woefully under specced.


teamsilent13 (on 24 July 2013)

I haven't seen anything reliable to assume those rumors are true. Until Microsoft announces it, I take it with a grain of salt.


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avrwc2 (on 23 July 2013)

The NSA should subsidize the XBOne. Microsoft makes government surveillance easy AND fun.


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avrwc2 (on 23 July 2013)

I see. So the fact that Microsoft was the first and the most enthusiastic comp to jump in bed with the spooks does not matter one bit. You should encourage them with your dollars.

Nice.


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DoctorMontalban (on 25 July 2013)

Looks like the check from Microsoft cleared.


binary solo (on 24 July 2013)

Oh come on. At least Pachter has the balls to say "I think X will happen." not "X could happen, maybe." Jeez 2 equivocating words in one sentence is not analysis, it's just guessing: Supply chain checks SUGGEST Microsoft MAY benefit" from higher shipments. Way to say nothing dude. I won't deny the possibility, but I will say I'll be rather surprised if this turns out to be true, globally. Playstation brand IS more popular globally than Xbox. People may debate that PS3 has outsold Xbox 360. But you can't deny that PS3 has sold around the same number of units, possibly more, in one year less. Possibly, maybe, a lot of likely PS3 owners aren't quite ready to get into the next generation, because they've only got round to buying a PS3 in the last 2-4 years. But I think PS4 will have plenty of early adopters among those who bought PS3 before Sept 2009. After all, those are the people who bought an behemoth of a machine for more than the PS4 is going to cost them.


WebMasterFlex (on 23 July 2013)

Someone upping this info when the consoles are out. Showing Patcher isn't the worst kind...


thehusbo (on 23 July 2013)

Ye whatever


landguy1 (on 26 July 2013)

People here think that they are the only ones buying the game systems. XBone could sell 2-3 times more than PS4(assuming that they are actually produced and shipped). It just won't be to the core gaming community. The XBone is aiming at not just core gamers(kind of failing at that), but a more casual crowd and the techies. I have talked to a few people that aren't interested in buying a game system, but have interest in the XBone for the internet features. They did say that they would probably end up using the gaming features if they had them. But, there is a group of buyers outside the gaming community, we just don't know how big it is.


FiliusDei (on 24 July 2013)

hahahahaha Saying something against ps4 is a blasphemy to some people


user78405 (on 23 July 2013)

SONY IS NOW CLAIMING HUGE PS3 LEAD....BY 5 MILLION SO FAR


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sniper989 (on 23 July 2013)

In the US maybe...


Darth Tigris (on 24 July 2013)

What's so wrong with what he said? I'd imagine he knows a lot more than we do.


Zappykins (on 24 July 2013)

Some people don't like any good news about the Xbox.


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gum (on 23 July 2013)

This holiday season and 2014 will be critical for ALL the next gen consoles. Thinking WiiU is the only one that need to sell well during that period is one of these stupid anti-Nintendo comments we can read everywhere on the web these days. After a one year head start if WiiU sells better than its competitors thanks to a great line-up and an already significantly cheaper price then it will be in a very good position to dominate in the future.


ItNetPro (on 23 July 2013)

Here is the problem with core people on these forums. Every cycle they under estimate the buying public. They think their world is the same as the real world and that is a mistake. I remember back during the Wii. Core gamers were ruthless over that console but they killed MS and Sony in sales that cycle because the general public adopted the new technology. When the general public gets exposed to Kinect 2.0 they will flock to the console regardless how hostile core gamers are on these sites. I personally have a PS4 on order but will pick up an Xbox One later. I already have a Wii U and buy them all. I'm very excited how MS games will differ from PS4 games using the Kinect. Eventually I can see myself buying 3rd party games on my Xbox because of the Kinect. For now will take a wait and see on that one. Stop underestimating Microsoft. They are not down and out. It will do much better then you think it will...


ND3G (on 24 July 2013)

Great news! The PS3.5 was only riding a wave due to the uproar over Microsoft's initial policies. There is practically nothing about the PS3.5 itself that is remotely exciting. No dedicated server service, a weak launch lineup, annoying glowing controllers, a gimped camera peripheral, no cloud computing infrastructure (GaiKai most certainly does not qualify), etc. I hope Sony does something to make the PS3.6 worth buying down the road but at present I can see no reason why anyone would pick one up over an Xbox One.


legendarysaiyanbroly (on 27 July 2013)

D xcrock one is a worthless piece of shit that sucks, so there really isn't any reason at all to buy it AT ANY PRICE. PS4 is infinitely better than that, so yeah, every "one" should pick PS4. Keep bringing up stupid bullshit to support the RROD machine 2.0 if that makes u feel better, though... lmao, XD!


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legendarysaiyanbroly (on 27 July 2013)

D xcrock one is a worthless piece of shit that sucks, so there really isn't any reason at all to buy it AT ANY PRICE. PS4 is infinitely better than that, so yeah, every "one" should pick PS4. Keep bringing up stupid bullshit to support the RROD machine 2.0 if that makes u feel better, though... lmao, XD!


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legendarysaiyanbroly (on 27 July 2013)

D xcrock one is a worthless piece of shit that sucks, so there really isn't any reason at all to buy it AT ANY PRICE. PS4 is infinitely better than that, so yeah, every "one" should pick PS4. Keep bringing up stupid bullshit to support the RROD machine 2.0 if that makes u feel better, though... lmao, XD!


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ND3G (on 24 July 2013)

Great news! The PS3.5 was only riding a wave due to the uproar over Microsoft's initial policies. There is practically nothing about the PS3.5 itself that is remotely exciting. No dedicated server service, a weak launch lineup, annoying glowing controllers, a gimped camera peripheral, no cloud computing infrastructure (GaiKai most certainly does not qualify), etc. I hope Sony does something to make the PS3.6 worth buying down the road but at present I can see no reason why anyone would pick one up over an Xbox One.


user78405 (on 23 July 2013)

THATS WHAT DID SONY DID BACK IN 2006............HIGHER SHIPMENT BUT NOT ONE EVER SOLD................SURE MICROSOFT CAN REALLY AFFORD MAKING 100 MILLION XBOX ONE TO WRITE OFF........IN THE GARBAGE


DamnTastic (on 23 July 2013)

CAAAAAAAAPS


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DJEVOLVE (on 23 July 2013)

This Is right. I work at a major retailer, and Xbox one pre-orders are triple that of PS4.


kurasakiichimaru (on 23 July 2013)

How's life on Mars, bro?


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think-man (on 23 July 2013)

xD lets be serious here now guys!


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Zappykins (on 24 July 2013)

Wow, some people really didn't like you reporting that. Sorry dude.


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DarthVolod (on 23 July 2013)

As long as they attack that $100 price difference, I see a big holiday and first year for Xbox One. PS4 lost two major selling points of PS3, free online and being the only bluray system, which makes the primary difference between the systems a $100 bill. Couple this with a more impressive launch window of exclusives for Xbox One along with the popularity of 360 in the US, and things become very interesting. Having a shipping advantage could be huge. If people are in the market for a next gen system, and their option is pay $100 or wait for 6 months or longer for the other system to be available, they will jump on the $100 extra especially if Microsoft offers deals to artificially reduce that price difference.


Libi (on 23 July 2013)

In my country (Portugal), you can´t even make XBOX One pre-orders. Half of my friends already make the PS4 pre- order.


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damoxuk (on 23 July 2013)

Well unlike 360/ps3 both are launching similar time. (360 won't benefit from 1 year early or 16 months in EU) and this time ps4 is cheaper.

Add in plus for 1 year and a PS camera and it's same price as xbone except that requires live also.


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