Pachter: Wii U is in Trouble

by William D'Angelo, posted on 05 July 2013 / 10,353 Views

Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter has told ABC News 10 that Nintendo's latest home console, the Wii U, has struggled since launch and the lack of third party support as the biggest problem. Publishers are focused on developing games for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One right now.

"The publishers are pretty excited to support the Xbox One and the PS4 - they really didn't say anything about the Wii U," said Pachter.  "And we know EA has no games in development for Wii U."

"If Activision pulls support; if you see Ubisoft, you see Take-Two pull support, the Wii U is a Nintendo-only gaming device which is they way they were back with the Nintendo Entertainment System in 1985," Pachter continued.  "They're not going to sell a lot of consoles if they don't have games like FIFA and Battlefield and Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto."

Pachter added that since the PlayStation 4 is launching at only $50 more than the Wii U, "Why would anybody buy a Wii U?"

However, a price cut along with the release core Nintendo titles could help give the Wii U a shot in the arm.


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29 Comments

mutantclown (on 05 July 2013)

NES was not a "Nintendo-only device", your knowledge is poor, Michael Pachter.


FreeTalkLive (on 07 July 2013)

He said like it was in the year 1985.


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Entakeeke (on 07 July 2013)


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Devil_Survivor (on 09 July 2013)

It wasn't even in the year 1985 either, so he is still wrong.


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Moonhero (on 05 July 2013)

He said it's in trouble, so it will be fine. Good for you, Wii U.


mushroomboy5 (on 06 July 2013)

I agree with his remarks but it's hardly new information or any great revelation.


Locknuts (on 06 July 2013)

I saw the interview. I used to think that he was just some idiot going out of his way to let his opinion be known. Now it's becoming apparent that he's actually being asked for his opinion on a regular basis, and he's just happy to give it. He's almost always wrong though so I'm not sure why people care what he thinks.


AWildSpork (on 06 July 2013)

The Wii U is a console that offers me nothing


Dechizen (on 05 July 2013)

you guys are blind, the wii was the luckiest console in history, it sold because it was able to open up to the super casual, old people in hospitals, dancing, fitness, etc. Nintendo doesn't have a gimmick this time, huge tablet controller is not enough. Gamecube was the last good nintendo console despite its sales


Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 06 July 2013)

As well as "hardcores" as well :P


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teamsilent13 (on 06 July 2013)

Yes, I own a wii and regret it. I fell for it because of wii sports and it's "potential". I learned quickly that besides a couple titles the games sucked for it and even nintendo's own games were worse than previous...melee was better than brawl, super mario 64 better than galaxy, ect. It was the nail in the coffin for me after being slightly disappointed with the gamecube compared to xbox original and PS2 which had way more and better games. No more nintendo consoles for me. I remember people joking how Metroid Prime 3 had voice acting for the wii. It's hilarious how stuck in the past nintendo is. The wii was a fluke based on a perceived gimmick and it's never going to happen again.


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oniyide (on 06 July 2013)

64 better than Galaxy? thats a bold statement


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Locknuts (on 06 July 2013)

Gamecube was an awesome console almost exclusively due to Metroid Prime and the Resident Evil games. I bought the Wii and hated it. It just makes me angry thinking about it.


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FreeTalkLive (on 07 July 2013)

The Wii was an amazing console so clearly the Gamecube wasn't the last good Nintendo console.


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Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 07 July 2013)

Most of your opinions are wrong btw TeamSilent :P


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Iveyboi (on 05 July 2013)

He flip flops daily on the product...


Ail (on 05 July 2013)

I'm starting to understand better how so many people denied for so long that the earth was round... Patcher says ' the earth is round', Nintendo fans answer : burn at the stake..


Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 05 July 2013)

More like Patcher says 'the earth is flat' and reasonable people answer: 'your an idiot'
I don't support death threats against him though, but that said, he's been wrong many more times than he's been right ;).

btw, before you jump to conclusions, I own all 3 consoles, and enjoy them all very much ;).


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Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 05 July 2013)

More like:
Patcher says 'the earth is flat', reasonable people answer: 'you're an idiot.'

Don't get me wrong, I think the people who have essentially wished death on him (which in this article equals one person), is on the idiotic side, but Patcher has been more wrong than he has been right, especially when he says things that are proven false lol ;).

It does not make him look good, and when you defend him for stating stuff that's factually false, that doesn't make you look good either ;).

And before you jump to conclusion, I own all three consoles, and plan to eventually own all the new ones as well (if my time allows it) ;).


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Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 05 July 2013)

Whoops sorry for the double post, it wasn't showing my first response, so I assumed I hit cancel by accident, and it's not letting me delete it =/. Now why aren't we allowed to delete our posts =.


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Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 05 July 2013)

Whoops sorry for the double post, it wasn't showing my first response, so I assumed I hit cancel by accident, and it's not letting me delete it =/. Now why aren't we allowed to delete our posts =.


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NeoRatt (on 06 July 2013)

That was the best analogy I have heard in a long time!


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Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 07 July 2013)

@NeoRatt, mine was, why thank you ;).


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Hydrocrush (on 08 July 2013)

Hydrocrush: patcher is mentally retarded


Resident_Hazard (on 07 July 2013)

Well, you heard it here, the Wii U will be a tremendous success. I honestly don't know why anyone listens to this dumbass. He is more wrong than a telephone psychic.


drakesfortune (on 06 July 2013)

I own a Wii U, and I think it's darn near a dead platform. It's in huge trouble. I haven't seen a console have the stink of death like this one in a very, very long time. I can't imagine how it does well. Wii was a success because it did something very NEW, and VERY exciting for both casual and core gamers. Everyone wanted motion controls. Wii U adds a touch screen controller, something nobody really wanted, or was asking for. Core gamers would have much preferred all of the cost that goes into the controller, instead going into better processing power and ram. Casual gamers don't give a damn about the Wii U controller. That leaves it as a console for nobody. Or...a console for people only looking to play the latest Nintendo game. That's still a decent market, but it's a distant 3rd place market at best. I see myself buying 1 or 2 Wii U games per year, compared to 20 or 30 PS4 games.


Cleary397 (on 06 July 2013)

So the Wii U is completely fine then. Cheers Pachter, your predictions are as useful as ever :)


snyps (on 05 July 2013)

$50 more? Pachter can't count to $100?


Nem (on 05 July 2013)

He said he wasnt gonna talk about the Wii U anymore until after christmas with Mario coming out. Obviously he cant help himself. He learned nothing with the 3DS. He can be surprisingly hasty to conclusions.


Zero999 (on 05 July 2013)

3ds? he learnt nothing from wii.


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ryuzaki57 (on 08 July 2013)

Core Nintendo titles are not going to improve the situtation since core Nintendo fans will all have the system by them. WiiU needs the 3rd parties to be a big player again. Price cut indeed could help though...


Fifaguy360 (on 05 July 2013)

EA already has said there are games in development for wii u.


Zero999 (on 05 July 2013)

"Pachter added that since the PlayStation 4 is launching at only $50 more than the Wii U, "Why would anybody buy a Wii U?"" first things first it's $100 difference. and since when is having the lowest price a bad thing? the right question is: why would anyone buy the more expensive console that offers less?


Locknuts (on 06 July 2013)

Less? PS4 is getting some awesome games close to launch. Dude I''m a Nintendo fan but geez...


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legendarysaiyanbroly (on 10 July 2013)

The so called "premium" wii u model is d only 1 that he counts, since nobody wants the shitty cheap model, so he would b right about the $50 difference; and the more expensive console (PS4) also offers much more: much MORE power, much MORE 3rd party support, MORE features, and MORE online servers,... and weren't those at Nintendo who had the great idea of not even include an ethernet port and a hard drive with their console? How is that "OFFERING MORE"? Ha-ha,... EXPOSED...XD! These poor "ninty" fanboys...!


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ListerOfSmeg (on 05 July 2013)

pachter is never right and his blind hate for Nintendo is beyond obvious... Nes had no 3rd party support? So Nintendo made final fantasy, dragon quest, megaman, etc? lmao. btw wii sold without those games. its not Nintendos fault that wii and wii u owners arent into late cheap ports.


sales2099 (on 05 July 2013)

blind hate? lol this is a business analyst, not a fanboy on a forum. He is making what he thinks is a realistic projection. Deal with it.


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ECM (on 06 July 2013)

"Realistic projection"? Based on what? I don't see any data backing up his assertions, and I'm still waiting for the Wii to flop and the 3DS to be crushed by the Vita.


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magos2k7 (on 06 July 2013)

Anything that happens to the Wii U is purely due to Nintendo. It's not because the PS4 and XBox one are better; it's because the Wii U is weaker. Nintendo could have put more girth into the machine and just made it with a regular controller, with the standard Wii Motion controllers along with it. They could have advertised more (and they should have). They were doing the thing they always do; they get to a certain point and then they pull back and go lie down on the couch and just expect their success to continue. With all the years of experience they have in this industry, you would think that they would have gotten the memo and continued to aggressively and competitively design a new machine. If they are going for the "hardcore gamer" they need to realize those folks want the BEST performance specs that they can get. NOT something with a touchscreen and weaker specs. I'm a big Nintendo fan, I have every single console and every single handheld they ever made and they all still work. It's a shame and now it's time for them to put down the sake, stop farting around and get to work rescuing their machine from the bargain bins.


RedInker (on 05 July 2013)

Pachter. Analyst, Nintendo hater, Prick.


Zero999 (on 05 July 2013)

Wii U will be the best selling 8th gen console, confirmed by pachter.


VMEfinn (on 06 July 2013)

The thing is the PS4 is being launched at $399, the XB1 at $499. Nintendo has room to reduce the cost of the Wii U to the $149 to $199 level. At that cost, it will do a 3DS going from awful sales to becoming the highest selling console.


radha (on 07 July 2013)

With no games? and no third party?


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Gamegears (on 05 July 2013)

We'll see when it is no longer the most expensive console on the market.. and it has some first party titles worthy of note.. not to mention second party exclusives.. I don't think Wii U is in as much trouble as everyone thinks yet..


oniyide (on 07 July 2013)

how long is that gonna take, i see 360 and expecially PS3 going anywhere anytime soon and both are cheaper, hell WIi is around and cheaper still


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NintendoPie (on 05 July 2013)

I agree. The Wii U was in trouble. Also, I'm pretty sure EA made a statement about how they do have "games in development" for Wii U. If that matters, anyhow.


chubber911 (on 07 July 2013)

The only thing that excites me slightly is that the estore will have earthbound available sometime this year. And that only because the original cartridge is over $200 now.


Entakeeke (on 07 July 2013)

spam


Entakeeke (on 07 July 2013)

spam


Hydrocrush (on 05 July 2013)

patcher is prob gonna commit suicide over his dead jokebox one when nintendo proves yet again he is a idiot just like the wii did


Omega_Phazon_Pirate. (on 05 July 2013)

Please don't wish death on someone who states opinions, and misstates facts ;).


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AnthonyW86 (on 05 July 2013)

He is absolutely right, Wii-U can on no level compete with the other next gen systems.


LilChicken22 (on 05 July 2013)

except games


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Ljink96 (on 05 July 2013)

I guess he was right when he said Wii couldn't compete with next gen systems. Look how that went...


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Zero999 (on 05 July 2013)

Deja vu


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ListerOfSmeg (on 06 July 2013)

Price is an obviously choice for a fine example of how Nintendo can compete. To get the same type of functionality out of PS4 you get out of the box from Wii U will cost over 1000.00 by the time you buy Vita, Pay for 5 years of online access, etc.
Fanboys like him because he says what they want to hear but normal people dismiss him as an idiot.
What he gets paid to do and what he is doing here, are not the same thing either so please stop giving him credit where it isn't due fanboys.


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legendarysaiyanbroly (on 10 July 2013)

Voted down 4 being honest, huh? Lol, u gotta love this poor "ninty" fanboys, XD!


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